Yeah. You have to be more understanding to get why Kenny did what he did. He wasn't crazy. He had people who depended on him. He was making the right moves. It was only the way he made them that left interpretation open. I wouldn't trust Jane either. When she and Luke were supposed to be on walker watch she was more worried about having fun and "living in the moment". Then she left the group so as not to have to deal with the consequence of HER actions against Arvo! Do these people forget about the type of role model she was? She was worried about herself. She prolly came back during the firefight to scavenge the dead and then she seen Clem. No, I didn't even reach for the gun. I just watched him kill her and smiled. The only reason she was around when Clem woke up after Arvo shot her was because she thought Clem could be useful. You will see. When Clem out lives her usefulness or welcome Jane will leave again. She is unpredictable and easily swayed. If given the choice to survive or kill the baby cause it wont shut up. She will leave Clem alone with the baby in the woods some where or leave the baby in the stream while Clem sleeps. (P.S. I cried at the end and chose Kenny). I kept finding myself thinking that we would hear a single gunshot after entering. No, I picked Kenny because he is a better person than Jane. How dare you put a child in that situation. Leave a baby alone? Scare an adoptive father as such? She couldn't just nag him like a normal woman. lol. Clem was stable, smarter, stronger, happier, safer, motivated, with Kenny. He is a better person than people give him credit for. Lee'd of been proud. The others freaked out because they thought he was becoming like Carver... No, he just needed time to acclimate. He never took complete control of every situation and he never killed someone innocent. If I was Arvo I would of tried to bring the groups together when Jane tried to steal from me. Jane was to childish, reminded me of a female version of Ben. Only she was no push over. Where as Kenny took charge, but still listened to the group. Carver just took charge and let God sort them out.
You might not want to talk about the fight between them. What seems obvious to you is a false assumption to Kenny fan and they make the weirdest arguments about the fight so... just stay quiet.
I mean, obviously I'd choose Kenny's ending because well, Wellington exists. But at that time, even if Jane did that, it seemed more rationa… morel to go to Howes because we both knew it existed. After finishing the game though, I'd want to choose Kenny's ending. I don't exactly agree with her doing that, but she did say it was an accident. Kenny had no reason to attack her. Imagine if it was actually an accident.
I shot Kenny because, at the time I assumed the death of the baby was genuinely an accident. Plus Jane put her knife away, showing she didn't want to fight.
Okay, I'll rephrase. To stop a friend from murdering a friend you kill a friend.
Should somebody have shot Clem to stop her from killing … moreKenny? At the same time, should somebody have shot that other somebody to stop him/her from killing Clem? After all, everybody in these scenarios are protecting someone else.
I find it hard to understand your thinking. This isn't as black and white of a fight as Lee vs the stranger, both of these people are your friends who care about you. Shooting the apparent winner of the deathmatch regardless of whether it's Jane or Kenny is not an understandable thing to do, especially coming from someone who thinks my initial comment is ignorant.
So what? I took the chance (which was pretty obvious that Wellington is real, no one would start a rumor like that with no base for the info) and it seems like we were right.
And he attacked her because he heard his hope in this world, the same world that took his own sole child, wife and lover away from him, had taken "his" baby, too, so don't tell me him going insane like that isn't a normal reaction.
I mean, obviously I'd choose Kenny's ending because well, Wellington exists. But at that time, even if Jane did that, it seemed more rationa… morel to go to Howes because we both knew it existed. After finishing the game though, I'd want to choose Kenny's ending. I don't exactly agree with her doing that, but she did say it was an accident. Kenny had no reason to attack her. Imagine if it was actually an accident.
Yeah, that's the thing that bothered me, as well: Jane had been manipulating that whole situation since the car. As Clementine, I kept trying to convince her to shut the hell up, but she would just not. Kenny may have been sliding toward the abyss, but he still had a tenuous grasp on a tether to his humanity, and it just seemed like Jane wanted to kick him when he was down.
I get that she thought she was acting in Clementine's best interest by instigating all of Kenny's demons to overtake him, but with respect, she didn't know Kenny like I knew him, and it pissed me off sooo badly that she put me in that position. She told me to stay out of it, and I did. Even to the point that I was willing to let Kenny kill her when I realized that that fight was only going to end with one of them dead.
I was not happy about it, but I just don't know what the hell she thought she was trying to do. It was dumb, and bullshit like that will get you killed in the long run.
Also, I just want to add that as a father, if I thought somebody had killed my kid, death would be the best that person should hope for. And that's not even factoring in a zombie apocalypse.
She put Clem in a situation where she needs to kill a person, she made her kill a living being, and even if some people say it's ok to kill … moreKenny, the endings with Kenny like the one I got prove it otherwise, they do well together and he kept her safe, despite his sanity slowly kissing him goodbye. Jane deserved what she got, mess with the bull and you'll get the horns, especially if you kill its baby and say it to the bull's face to prove a fucking point to another person, which is very fucking dumb, she topped Ben with that shit.
"Anything obtained by killing people can never bring true happiness."
I don't think so, but let's assume you're right, still he begged and cried for Clem to go in, even when she insisted she doesn't want to.
He could have just said "welp, let's just get the hell outta here then", but no, he insisted.
And again, even if they were at full capacity and not accepting people, the fact that they had the privelage to go out of their policy and have a place for 2 more kids proves that if Kenny would have come alone, she could take him in, because even if it's easier to pity kids, they would be able to squeeze another man in if they can afford themselves to squeeze in 2 kids.
What part of this sentence dont you understand? They were not accepting new members, they only made exception for the kids. Even if Clem and… more Aj werent coming in, Kenny still wouldnt have had a spot in Wellington.
They gave Clem&Aj spot out of pity, pity which Kenny wouldnt have gotten.
If a house is unattended for +2 years, all moisture turns into snow/ice inside house and it is atleast close being as cold as it is outside.
Close doesn´t mean equal, and I can´t really see how this refutes the reasons given in the storage section of this page: Firewood. Also, we can´t really know if it makes less or more of a diference because TellTale didn´t give us detail about the temparature.
And the houses get pretty wrecked in 2 years with walkers being around so there can be bunch of snow inside also.
If a house is unattended for +2 years, all moisture turns into snow/ice inside house and it is atleast close being as cold as it is outside.… more And the houses get pretty wrecked in 2 years with walkers being around so there can be bunch of snow inside also.
Yeah, I guess I'd be pissed off if I happened to leave a child with a woman for a little while, to find out later that he's dead. I don't know what I'm talking about though, it's just my opinion that killing Kenny seemed a lot better, as he began the fight. Not because I thought he was insane, but because if I had to make the decision then and now, I'd shoot whoever began the fight in the first place. I'd kill Jane if she said she accidently killed the baby but began fighting Kenny first.
So what? I took the chance (which was pretty obvious that Wellington is real, no one would start a rumor like that with no base for the info… more) and it seems like we were right.
And he attacked her because he heard his hope in this world, the same world that took his own sole child, wife and lover away from him, had taken "his" baby, too, so don't tell me him going insane like that isn't a normal reaction.
Anyone with a kid would relate and do the same.
Its pretty typical in za that people talk about safe haven which they had heard about but no one actually nows where it is or if it actually even exists.
Yes, you took a chance, im arguing that it was irrational to take that chance while you had to decide. and that is the difference between you and me, Kenny and Jane.
So what? I took the chance (which was pretty obvious that Wellington is real, no one would start a rumor like that with no base for the info… more) and it seems like we were right.
And he attacked her because he heard his hope in this world, the same world that took his own sole child, wife and lover away from him, had taken "his" baby, too, so don't tell me him going insane like that isn't a normal reaction.
Anyone with a kid would relate and do the same.
Just the weather and the fact that walkers break shit like windows or doors, if they hear something inside. Those two would make houses into pretty bad shape in 2 years.
If a house is unattended for +2 years, all moisture turns into snow/ice inside house and it is atleast close being as cold as it is outside.… more
Close doesn´t mean equal, and I can´t really see how this refutes the reasons given in the storage section of this page: Firewood. Also, we can´t really know if it makes less or more of a diference because TellTale didn´t give us detail about the temparature.
And the houses get pretty wrecked in 2 years with walkers being around so there can be bunch of snow inside also.
So walkers can wreck houses now.
Really.
Its pretty typical in za that people talk about safe haven which they had heard about but no one actually nows where it is or if it actually… more even exists.
Yes, you took a chance, im arguing that it was irrational to take that chance while you had to decide. and that is the difference between you and me, Kenny and Jane.
But she didn't stop the fight even though she could have just said she lied at any point, meaning she wanted the fight to happen, she just wanted Kenny out of the way because they had differences, and that was the closest way to do it, so she took the opportunity, dropping all reason and humanity, as well as empathy for a parent.
Yeah, I guess I'd be pissed off if I happened to leave a child with a woman for a little while, to find out later that he's dead. I don't kn… moreow what I'm talking about though, it's just my opinion that killing Kenny seemed a lot better, as he began the fight. Not because I thought he was insane, but because if I had to make the decision then and now, I'd shoot whoever began the fight in the first place. I'd kill Jane if she said she accidently killed the baby but began fighting Kenny first.
The actual dialogues inside game contradicts what you believe is true. I did say the Kenny was the one who planted the idea of letting those 2 kids inside and the guard felt pity towards AJ and Clem and even said that she doesnt want to turn away children. And Kenny never had a chance to get inside. She says "we can take the children, but just the children".
I don't think so, but let's assume you're right, still he begged and cried for Clem to go in, even when she insisted she doesn't want to.
… more He could have just said "welp, let's just get the hell outta here then", but no, he insisted.
And again, even if they were at full capacity and not accepting people, the fact that they had the privelage to go out of their policy and have a place for 2 more kids proves that if Kenny would have come alone, she could take him in, because even if it's easier to pity kids, they would be able to squeeze another man in if they can afford themselves to squeeze in 2 kids.
I still don't realize how would a safe haven be made up, and for what purpose would a person bother to name the safe haven he made up.
Also, it's an apocalypse, there are no phones or internet, so if everyone knows about it that means they probably send people into putting up huge posters or something, it just doesn't seem made up to me.
And ok, even if it turned to be fictional, still tons of people would have met there by then, and they could form up a real community.
I think it was rational, because the other option still isn't the safest one, that building they are in right now is completely full of holes, it isn't fit for people to live in, and the family raises doubts even more if you let them in imo, and then there's the food problem.
Its pretty typical in za that people talk about safe haven which they had heard about but no one actually nows where it is or if it actually… more even exists.
Yes, you took a chance, im arguing that it was irrational to take that chance while you had to decide. and that is the difference between you and me, Kenny and Jane.
I ended up with Jane too, killing Kenny along the way. He was just too far gone. And yes, Jane wouldn´t take a bullet for us, but really, would we take a bullet for anyone? My safety is first. I didn't want the baby either, so I left it laying there in the first scene and I would do it again in a heartbeat.
I still don't realize how would a safe haven be made up, and for what purpose would a person bother to name the safe haven he made up.
Al… moreso, it's an apocalypse, there are no phones or internet, so if everyone knows about it that means they probably send people into putting up huge posters or something, it just doesn't seem made up to me.
And ok, even if it turned to be fictional, still tons of people would have met there by then, and they could form up a real community.
I think it was rational, because the other option still isn't the safest one, that building they are in right now is completely full of holes, it isn't fit for people to live in, and the family raises doubts even more if you let them in imo, and then there's the food problem.
This "too far gone" and "broken" crap, as if it describes perfectly Kenny's behavior and alone merits bringing his death around quicker, needs to be turned from. I'm not going to use the word that best describes this perverted form of it for fear that it'll spread among the already infected minds like an epidemic. This particular issue isn't even about picking Jane or Kenny. The line of logic you choose for your reasoning is a malfunction and inferior. From one enlightened organism to another, see to reforming it so that you can come up with better reasoning.
But she may have only said that there is no capacity because she saw the 3 of them at first, maybe if Kenny was alone she would let him in, and I can prove that because if they have room for 2 more (or at least can afford it), the can put a single man as well.
I realize they only got in because of empathy for the kids, but I think that they would let him in if he was alone, since they can clearly afford it.
Again, you are implying that they had a spot left in wellington. Clem and Aj got in only because they are so young.. Kenny isnt a 11 years … moreold girl or 2 weeks old baby. The guard felt pity towards Clem and Aj and that is the reason she asked if those 2 could come in (Kenny gave the idea to the guard of taking Clem & Aj in and she couldnt say no, so she tried to get them in). She wouldnt have even contacted the one who runs that place if it was Kenny who wanted in.
I dont know i would still wanna take the chance to go to Wellington, like awesomeo said you would also be taking a chance by going to Howes, after the mob of zombies the place is torn up and is alittle unsafe.
I dont know i would still wanna take the chance to go to Wellington, like awesomeo said you would also be taking a chance by going to Howes, after the mob of zombies the place is torn up and is alittle unsafe.
Just the weather and the fact that walkers break shit like windows or doors, if they hear something inside. Those two would make houses into pretty bad shape in 2 years.
That the weather is cold wont wreck any house. Also, you are talking like walkers go around breaking doors and windows if there are not living persons behind.
Just the weather and the fact that walkers break shit like windows or doors, if they hear something inside. Those two would make houses into pretty bad shape in 2 years.
She stated that they arent taking new people in. Stop assuming things just because they decided to let Clem and AJ in out of pity. They didnt show any pity to Kenny, so without Clem and AJ, Kenny would most likely just walk away with the bag of supplies (imo).
But she may have only said that there is no capacity because she saw the 3 of them at first, maybe if Kenny was alone she would let him in, … moreand I can prove that because if they have room for 2 more (or at least can afford it), the can put a single man as well.
I realize they only got in because of empathy for the kids, but I think that they would let him in if he was alone, since they can clearly afford it.
Well just like Wellington and gods, their purpose is to give hope to people (atleast some gods) and i wouldnt be suprised if someone would have made up Wellington. I dont know if you havent realized this, but people waste a lot time and recources for stupid things like churches and praying. Its what keeps some going.
People "create gods" to feel like there's someone watching over them, it's only natural when someone loses hope.
It has a purpose, creati… moreng a safe haven would not do anything, it would just make false promises to people and waste time & recources to get there.
It can't just be one dumb rumor.
Well we dont get a good look at how secure howe's is, so we can only assume its condition.
But still howe's was a safer bet than venturing to north, looking for place you're not sure exists.
They break stuff just if they hear sounds coming from inside. And 2 years of different seasons (wet, cold, heat) will fuck up houses when no one is there to look after the house.
Just the weather and the fact that walkers break shit like windows or doors, if they hear something inside. Those two would make houses into… more pretty bad shape in 2 years.
That the weather is cold wont wreck any house. Also, you are talking like walkers go around breaking doors and windows if there are not living persons behind.
They break stuff just if they hear sounds coming from inside. And 2 years of different seasons (wet, cold, heat) will fuck up houses when no one is there to look after the house.
Gods can't be compared to an actual place you can prove to be true, making up a place people can actually believe they can find has no logic in it, on the other hand, you can't say God can't exist, but you also can't prove he does.
Wellington is an actual place, you can physically touch it, it isn't a spiritual entity to keep people going.
There is no logical benefit from making up a community, you could waste the recources on forming a community.
Well just like Wellington and gods, their purpose is to give hope to people (atleast some gods) and i wouldnt be suprised if someone would h… moreave made up Wellington. I dont know if you havent realized this, but people waste a lot time and recources for stupid things like churches and praying. Its what keeps some going.
I knew you'd take it that way.
Gods can't be compared to an actual place you can prove to be true, making up a place people can actually … morebelieve they can find has no logic in it, on the other hand, you can't say God can't exist, but you also can't prove he does.
Wellington is an actual place, you can physically touch it, it isn't a spiritual entity to keep people going.
There is no logical benefit from making up a community, you could waste the recources on forming a community.
They break stuff just if they hear sounds coming from inside.
Exactly. What sounds are there to hear in a empty house, since all the… more people who knew was happening in the city evacuated?
And 2 years of different seasons (wet, cold, heat) will fuck up houses when no one is there to close the doors, fix the windows and keep it warm.
You are assuming every door is going to be breaked or left open, you are assuming that all windows need fixing.
Of course, there's always a risk, there is also a risk at going back with Jane to an extent, but it just sounds like if so many people actually believe it and go there, that it's most likely real, and if not, it's a meeting place for resourceful survivors who made a long way there, which is still great.
I'm not religious, I don't see myself as a part of any religion (I was born Jewish but don't follow all the 613 commandments), still, it just isn't absolute, you can't say with no doubts in your heart that God isn't real just the same as you can't say he does.
yes, but how do you know if it is a rumor or a real thing? You cant. You have to take a chance and that is something i wouldnt do.
I can … moresay for a fact that gods dont exists. fact ≠ absolute fact (we cant never be 100% sure so facts change as we gain more knowledge)
So you say that every house Kenny and Clem could encounter could be in bad conditions because there can be animals inside making noise, never mind that most people could have taken their animals with them, never mind that dogs at most other animals could leave the house by themselves thought the pet door if they have one or thought the normal door if the owner’s didn´t think of locking the door or had not time to do it, never mind that not everybody is going to have a pet? Okay.
The actual dialogues inside game contradicts what you believe is true. I did say the Kenny was the one who planted the idea of letting those… more 2 kids inside and the guard felt pity towards AJ and Clem and even said that she doesnt want to turn away children. And Kenny never had a chance to get inside. She says "we can take the children, but just the children".
Heart doesnt do any thinking for me atleast, but looking at all the evidence we have currently, it is a fact that god(s) dont exist. I dont have time to consider the possibility of all the supernatural ceatures existance which humans claim to exist, so its easy to just say they dont exists, since there is no proof of their existance. And like i said before, fact ≠ absolute fact
Of course, there's always a risk, there is also a risk at going back with Jane to an extent, but it just sounds like if so many people actua… morelly believe it and go there, that it's most likely real, and if not, it's a meeting place for resourceful survivors who made a long way there, which is still great.
I'm not religious, I don't see myself as a part of any religion (I was born Jewish but don't follow all the 613 commandments), still, it just isn't absolute, you can't say with no doubts in your heart that God isn't real just the same as you can't say he does.
No side can prove the other side wrong.
Well i have reason to believe they wouldnt have let Kenny in if he showed up alone, considering that she said the they arent the first people who they had to turn back.
So you say that every house Kenny and Clem could encounter could be in bad conditions because there can be animals inside making noise, neve… morer mind that most people could have taken their animals with them, never mind that dogs at most other animals could leave the house by themselves thought the pet door if they have one or thought the normal door if the owner’s didn´t think of locking the door or had not time to do it, never mind that not everybody is going to have a pet? Okay.
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Yeah. You have to be more understanding to get why Kenny did what he did. He wasn't crazy. He had people who depended on him. He was making the right moves. It was only the way he made them that left interpretation open. I wouldn't trust Jane either. When she and Luke were supposed to be on walker watch she was more worried about having fun and "living in the moment". Then she left the group so as not to have to deal with the consequence of HER actions against Arvo! Do these people forget about the type of role model she was? She was worried about herself. She prolly came back during the firefight to scavenge the dead and then she seen Clem. No, I didn't even reach for the gun. I just watched him kill her and smiled. The only reason she was around when Clem woke up after Arvo shot her was because she thought Clem could be useful. You will see. When Clem out lives her usefulness or welcome Jane will leave again. She is unpredictable and easily swayed. If given the choice to survive or kill the baby cause it wont shut up. She will leave Clem alone with the baby in the woods some where or leave the baby in the stream while Clem sleeps. (P.S. I cried at the end and chose Kenny). I kept finding myself thinking that we would hear a single gunshot after entering. No, I picked Kenny because he is a better person than Jane. How dare you put a child in that situation. Leave a baby alone? Scare an adoptive father as such? She couldn't just nag him like a normal woman. lol. Clem was stable, smarter, stronger, happier, safer, motivated, with Kenny. He is a better person than people give him credit for. Lee'd of been proud. The others freaked out because they thought he was becoming like Carver... No, he just needed time to acclimate. He never took complete control of every situation and he never killed someone innocent. If I was Arvo I would of tried to bring the groups together when Jane tried to steal from me. Jane was to childish, reminded me of a female version of Ben. Only she was no push over. Where as Kenny took charge, but still listened to the group. Carver just took charge and let God sort them out.
You might not want to talk about the fight between them. What seems obvious to you is a false assumption to Kenny fan and they make the weirdest arguments about the fight so... just stay quiet.
I shot Kenny because, at the time I assumed the death of the baby was genuinely an accident. Plus Jane put her knife away, showing she didn't want to fight.
So what? I took the chance (which was pretty obvious that Wellington is real, no one would start a rumor like that with no base for the info) and it seems like we were right.
And he attacked her because he heard his hope in this world, the same world that took his own sole child, wife and lover away from him, had taken "his" baby, too, so don't tell me him going insane like that isn't a normal reaction.
Anyone with a kid would relate and do the same.
Yeah, that's the thing that bothered me, as well: Jane had been manipulating that whole situation since the car. As Clementine, I kept trying to convince her to shut the hell up, but she would just not. Kenny may have been sliding toward the abyss, but he still had a tenuous grasp on a tether to his humanity, and it just seemed like Jane wanted to kick him when he was down.
I get that she thought she was acting in Clementine's best interest by instigating all of Kenny's demons to overtake him, but with respect, she didn't know Kenny like I knew him, and it pissed me off sooo badly that she put me in that position. She told me to stay out of it, and I did. Even to the point that I was willing to let Kenny kill her when I realized that that fight was only going to end with one of them dead.
I was not happy about it, but I just don't know what the hell she thought she was trying to do. It was dumb, and bullshit like that will get you killed in the long run.
Also, I just want to add that as a father, if I thought somebody had killed my kid, death would be the best that person should hope for. And that's not even factoring in a zombie apocalypse.
I don't think so, but let's assume you're right, still he begged and cried for Clem to go in, even when she insisted she doesn't want to.
He could have just said "welp, let's just get the hell outta here then", but no, he insisted.
And again, even if they were at full capacity and not accepting people, the fact that they had the privelage to go out of their policy and have a place for 2 more kids proves that if Kenny would have come alone, she could take him in, because even if it's easier to pity kids, they would be able to squeeze another man in if they can afford themselves to squeeze in 2 kids.
Close doesn´t mean equal, and I can´t really see how this refutes the reasons given in the storage section of this page: Firewood. Also, we can´t really know if it makes less or more of a diference because TellTale didn´t give us detail about the temparature.
So walkers can wreck houses now.
Really.
My first playthrough I shot Kenny, and went with Jane.
Yeah, I guess I'd be pissed off if I happened to leave a child with a woman for a little while, to find out later that he's dead. I don't know what I'm talking about though, it's just my opinion that killing Kenny seemed a lot better, as he began the fight. Not because I thought he was insane, but because if I had to make the decision then and now, I'd shoot whoever began the fight in the first place. I'd kill Jane if she said she accidently killed the baby but began fighting Kenny first.
Its pretty typical in za that people talk about safe haven which they had heard about but no one actually nows where it is or if it actually even exists.
Yes, you took a chance, im arguing that it was irrational to take that chance while you had to decide. and that is the difference between you and me, Kenny and Jane.
Just the weather and the fact that walkers break shit like windows or doors, if they hear something inside. Those two would make houses into pretty bad shape in 2 years.
A bit off topic, but right now I just hope the Howes warehouse is low on supplies because the 400 days characters made off with it. We can only hope
But she didn't stop the fight even though she could have just said she lied at any point, meaning she wanted the fight to happen, she just wanted Kenny out of the way because they had differences, and that was the closest way to do it, so she took the opportunity, dropping all reason and humanity, as well as empathy for a parent.
The actual dialogues inside game contradicts what you believe is true. I did say the Kenny was the one who planted the idea of letting those 2 kids inside and the guard felt pity towards AJ and Clem and even said that she doesnt want to turn away children. And Kenny never had a chance to get inside. She says "we can take the children, but just the children".
I still don't realize how would a safe haven be made up, and for what purpose would a person bother to name the safe haven he made up.
Also, it's an apocalypse, there are no phones or internet, so if everyone knows about it that means they probably send people into putting up huge posters or something, it just doesn't seem made up to me.
And ok, even if it turned to be fictional, still tons of people would have met there by then, and they could form up a real community.
I think it was rational, because the other option still isn't the safest one, that building they are in right now is completely full of holes, it isn't fit for people to live in, and the family raises doubts even more if you let them in imo, and then there's the food problem.
The roof looked like multiple people died there (could be walkers also of course).
I ended up with Jane too, killing Kenny along the way. He was just too far gone. And yes, Jane wouldn´t take a bullet for us, but really, would we take a bullet for anyone? My safety is first. I didn't want the baby either, so I left it laying there in the first scene and I would do it again in a heartbeat.
rumors... Just like how many silly gods/supernatural creatures are made up.
This "too far gone" and "broken" crap, as if it describes perfectly Kenny's behavior and alone merits bringing his death around quicker, needs to be turned from. I'm not going to use the word that best describes this perverted form of it for fear that it'll spread among the already infected minds like an epidemic. This particular issue isn't even about picking Jane or Kenny. The line of logic you choose for your reasoning is a malfunction and inferior. From one enlightened organism to another, see to reforming it so that you can come up with better reasoning.
But she may have only said that there is no capacity because she saw the 3 of them at first, maybe if Kenny was alone she would let him in, and I can prove that because if they have room for 2 more (or at least can afford it), the can put a single man as well.
I realize they only got in because of empathy for the kids, but I think that they would let him in if he was alone, since they can clearly afford it.
I dont know i would still wanna take the chance to go to Wellington, like awesomeo said you would also be taking a chance by going to Howes, after the mob of zombies the place is torn up and is alittle unsafe.
Well we dont get a good look at how secure howe's is, so we can only assume its condition.
But still howe's was a safer bet than venturing to north, looking for place you're not sure exists.
That the weather is cold wont wreck any house. Also, you are talking like walkers go around breaking doors and windows if there are not living persons behind.
She stated that they arent taking new people in. Stop assuming things just because they decided to let Clem and AJ in out of pity. They didnt show any pity to Kenny, so without Clem and AJ, Kenny would most likely just walk away with the bag of supplies (imo).
People "create gods" to feel like there's someone watching over them, it's only natural when someone loses hope.
It has a purpose, creating a safe haven would not do anything, it would just make false promises to people and waste time & recources to get there.
It can't just be one dumb rumor.
Well just like Wellington and gods, their purpose is to give hope to people (atleast some gods) and i wouldnt be suprised if someone would have made up Wellington. I dont know if you havent realized this, but people waste a lot time and recources for stupid things like churches and praying. Its what keeps some going.
Yea I guess your right about that.
They break stuff just if they hear sounds coming from inside. And 2 years of different seasons (wet, cold, heat) will fuck up houses when no one is there to look after the house.
Exactly. What sounds are there to hear in a empty house, since all the people who knew was happening in the city evacuated?
You are assuming every door is going to be breaked or left open, you are assuming that all windows need fixing.
I knew you'd take it that way.
Gods can't be compared to an actual place you can prove to be true, making up a place people can actually believe they can find has no logic in it, on the other hand, you can't say God can't exist, but you also can't prove he does.
Wellington is an actual place, you can physically touch it, it isn't a spiritual entity to keep people going.
There is no logical benefit from making up a community, you could waste the recources on forming a community.
yes, but how do you know if it is a rumor or a real thing? You cant. You have to take a chance and that is something i wouldnt do.
I can say for a fact that gods dont exists. fact ≠ absolute fact (we cant never be 100% sure so facts change as we gain more knowledge)
We arent the only animals which use houses. Other animals use houses also while or after humans have left that house for a long time.
Flatterer.
Of course, there's always a risk, there is also a risk at going back with Jane to an extent, but it just sounds like if so many people actually believe it and go there, that it's most likely real, and if not, it's a meeting place for resourceful survivors who made a long way there, which is still great.
I'm not religious, I don't see myself as a part of any religion (I was born Jewish but don't follow all the 613 commandments), still, it just isn't absolute, you can't say with no doubts in your heart that God isn't real just the same as you can't say he does.
No side can prove the other side wrong.
So you say that every house Kenny and Clem could encounter could be in bad conditions because there can be animals inside making noise, never mind that most people could have taken their animals with them, never mind that dogs at most other animals could leave the house by themselves thought the pet door if they have one or thought the normal door if the owner’s didn´t think of locking the door or had not time to do it, never mind that not everybody is going to have a pet? Okay.
He could still have convinced her to let one man in if she thought he was alone, you can't contradict something that didn't happen.
Heart doesnt do any thinking for me atleast, but looking at all the evidence we have currently, it is a fact that god(s) dont exist. I dont have time to consider the possibility of all the supernatural ceatures existance which humans claim to exist, so its easy to just say they dont exists, since there is no proof of their existance. And like i said before, fact ≠ absolute fact
Well i have reason to believe they wouldnt have let Kenny in if he showed up alone, considering that she said the they arent the first people who they had to turn back.
Birds and cats and other animals which dont have any reason not to take advantage of the house after humans left them.
How is a bird or a cat or any animal going to enter a house without broken or open windows and/or doors?