Should an older Clem be hetero, homo or bi, if romance is to be implemented in future games?

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  • edited November 2014

    I hear ya.
    I saw a similar question like this sometime back.
    And most of the people who answered, if I remember correctly, were not in favor of it, having homosexual/bisexual characters in the game.
    Or no more than have already been shown.

    I don't remember if the user who posted this question, posted the same question that I'm referring to, but if that indeed is so, whether or not he liked the answers he got, he should at least accept them.

  • edited November 2014

    Where did you hear that?

    And on a sidenote, when it came to the sex-scenes in Mass Effect 1, they were nude, or perhaps a more accurate description would be "partially nude."
    However in the following 2 games, that wasn't the case.
    I wonder why bioware put a stop to it?

    And for the female characters, the one I liked the best was Kelly.
    She had a real sincerity and gentleness about her.
    More so than the others.

    Rock114 posted: »

    It was actually intended for Kaiden to be bisexual in Mass Effect 1, but due to the controversy the game received that was scrapped. You can still find it in the files though. Technically, he was always bi.

  • I don't care what sexuality any character is.. It makes no difference when trying to survive in a ZA. If given this option in the game, i'll proably let the timer expire and have the game choose for me and regardless of the outcome I'm still going to play Clem with the main focus of staying alive, and not concern my self with who she likes.

    Actually, I'll be more disappointed with Telltale for even wasting time implimenting this in the game.

  • Sure, why not?

  • edited November 2014

    Well I'm asexual =D I'd kill to see a character in a game be asexual because I've just never seen it in anything except for this one vague mention in a show and that's it. If Clem ever turned out to be that, I'd support it [plus there's all different sorts too.].

    Doesn't mean she can't have a romance though, still it is odd to think of Clementine like that. If Telltale ever did do that, I just hope it wouldn't feel forced having her in a relationship, like 'oh look here's your love interest Clem, make goo goo eyes at each other, exchange flowers and chocolates because that's what chu do when you're in wuv.' I keep imagining a clueless Duck kid showing up and it terrifies me o_o

  • edited November 2014

    Funny thing you mentioned Fallout NV!
    Was there any actual romance between the player and another character?
    It's been a very long time since I played the game, but I don't remember there being any.

    JustinCage posted: »

    Honestly, I don't understand why nearly every form of media entertainment nowadays, has to have a homosexual character on it. As som

  • That all depends on which way your game ends.
    If you're like me, who couldn't bear to split Clementine and Kenny up after seeing how close they had become; just like father and daughter; and had them leave Wellington together, who's to say what will happen.

    The only possible boy she would fall in love with is the black boy at the end of season 2, or someone she met at Wellington.

  • It'd be funny if Clem turned out to have a preference for girls over boys. But I know the devs would NEVER go down that route. Too 'risky' for them.

    Homosexuality's apparently scarier than the rotten remains of human beings turning into soulless cannibals.

  • There was none really, but there were a lot of forced bisexual/lesbians lines and moments for the female PC. The male however had very little homosexual/bisexual interaction. These were only trigger if you had the Confirmed Bachelor perk. The female however would appear to be bisexual no made what perk you had. This always bothered me, cause this seemed very forced.

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    Funny thing you mentioned Fallout NV! Was there any actual romance between the player and another character? It's been a very long time since I played the game, but I don't remember there being any.

  • I heard it on the Internet, so you know it has to be true.

    But seriously, there's a few videos on Youtube of it IIRC, and it was in a Cracked article about game content being hidden in the files or some such.

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    Where did you hear that? And on a sidenote, when it came to the sex-scenes in Mass Effect 1, they were nude, or perhaps a more accurate d

  • Romances between the player and their companions were originally planned, but then scrapped due to... time restraints I believe? That's what happens to most content in Obsidian games. In fact, with Cass there was apparently a quest where she and the player would get drunk in Vegas, then discover the next morning that they had been married by The King (Who is easily one of my favorite NPCs).

    Kenny/Lee posted: »

    Funny thing you mentioned Fallout NV! Was there any actual romance between the player and another character? It's been a very long time since I played the game, but I don't remember there being any.

  • edited November 2014

    Yeah I liked The King too.
    Cass was also a likable character.
    As was that sniper guy.

    One character I found to be somewhat useless, was Rex.
    Eveytime I got into a scrape, particularly with Caesar's legion, and if he was the only companion I had with me, he would get killed very quickly.
    Basically, he wasn't real good in a fight.
    And there wasn't really anything I could do to upgrade his fighting ability, nor his damage resistance.
    In fact, nearly every companion in Fallout NV, was relatively easy to kill off.
    I have to wonder why Bioware made Rex, and every other traveling companion in the game so weak, and easy to be killed off?

    Dogmeat, on the other hand, was absolutely priceless as a traveling companion.
    He could deal significant damage, but best of all, he was damn-near impossible to kill.
    Even a deathclaw, nor a pack of them, could take him down.
    The only thing that really had a chance to put him six-feet-under, was that giant super mutant.

    Rock114 posted: »

    Romances between the player and their companions were originally planned, but then scrapped due to... time restraints I believe? That's what

  • Anyone else out there that thought any sort of "romantic/sexual tension" between Lee and Carley in S1 was a distracting thread that felt shoehorned in because "why not? Other choice based games like Mass Effect did it" reason or something equally silly. Now I've never played Mass Effect or any of those other games, so I don't know if the writers did a good job of weaving it into the story, or if they just used it to cater to teenage boy fantasies.

    I'm heterosexual, but I didn't choose Carley because she was a woman. I chose her most playthroughs because I wanted to option to turn down Kenny's griping during the RV murder scene. I liked Doug's character and his lines much better than Carley's, and it's a shame TT's writers couldn't have figured out a way for a smart guy like Doug to have heard about Lee's past also.

    I'd say give Clem a relationship or (probably at her age we might see her, a crush)--IF the writers can pull it off where it truly makes a difference and adds to the story. I just have serious doubts they could in this setting.

    Now I know TLOU definitely is not the only game to put characters into non-traditional relationships, but be honest. Would this topic even be an issue without that near ending scene from the Left Behind DLC? Younger than usual female characters in a zombie(like) apocalypse? That's where most of the impetus in this thread is coming from, right?

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  • Romances between the player and their companions were originally planned, but then scrapped due to... time restraints I believe?

    Huh, I didn't know that. Damn,Bethesda most of really dicked them over then.

    Rock114 posted: »

    Romances between the player and their companions were originally planned, but then scrapped due to... time restraints I believe? That's what

  • But that boy is butt ugly

    The only possible boy she would fall in love with is the black boy at the end of season 2, or someone she met at Wellington.

  • Here's a (disturbing) question...

    What if Clementine grew up to be a "wild child?" Not discerning herself or wanting to be "tied down" by the "restrictions" of a relationship.

    In other words, what if Clementine grew up to be "loose?"

    And boy, is that a hard thought to stomach.

  • Hetero of course.... Why are you even asking?

  • edited November 2014

    We don't know Clementine's sexuality for sure. She can turn out to be bisexual or homosexual and there's nothing wrong with it at all.

    Hetero of course.... Why are you even asking?

  • Yes, they could easily do another timeskip.

    I do not support a time skip, in my opinion it would be bad.. Look at how S2 turned out. It had a time skip and everyone ripped on it endlessly.

    It helps with the writing process, as the older she is the more they can have her do without having it look ridiculous

    That ship has sailed.

    Yes, they could easily do another timeskip. It helps with the writing process, as the older she is the more they can have her do without hav

  • Well my opinion about that is different.

    We don't know Clementine's sexuality for sure. She can turn out to be bisexual or homosexual and there's nothing wrong with it at all.

  • Honestly, i don't give a shit about Clem's sexual preferences. She'll still be the same old Clem in my eyes.

  • Well, it would be realistic, if there were one homo character for every 10 - 20 characters, based off your stats.

    ViralType posted: »

    For the sake of inclusion and diversity, even though homosexuals make less than 20% of the population (less than 10%?), so it ain't exactly realistic.

  • Would this topic even be an issue without that near ending scene from the Left Behind DLC? Younger than usual female characters in a zombie(like) apocalypse? That's where most of the impetus in this thread is coming from, right?

    The Left Behind scene has nothing do with this thread, as I bringing this idea up with the assumption that there will be a time skip, and because it's another way to create relationships with other characters.

    Bluebirdo posted: »

    Anyone else out there that thought any sort of "romantic/sexual tension" between Lee and Carley in S1 was a distracting thread that felt sho

  • so you're homophobic?

    why can't Clementine be a sexuality other than hetero?

    Well my opinion about that is different.

  • I didn't say she can't... I said that I wouldn't like it.

    so you're homophobic? why can't Clementine be a sexuality other than hetero?

  • God this shit is so stupid. Stop being such a SJW for a made up character. Jesus Christ.

    so you're homophobic? why can't Clementine be a sexuality other than hetero?

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    Asexuality also exists, by the way.

  • When Bethesda sets a time for the game to be released, that's when the game get's released. They don't even set back games they themselves are developing, like The Elder Scrolls. Those game's have so much cut content, it's ridiculous.

    JustinCage posted: »

    Romances between the player and their companions were originally planned, but then scrapped due to... time restraints I believe? Huh, I didn't know that. Damn,Bethesda most of really dicked them over then.

  • Oooo... That came out racist.

    The only possible boy she would fall in love with is the black boy at the end of season 2, or someone she met at Wellington.

  • I'm fine with any relationship she chooses. I think it would be interesting to see how people would react to her having a crush on a girl. I always figured that if she and Sarah were on their own with A.J alone for a few years, they'd end up being a couple. If Telltale does decide for season 3 to have a little romance with Clem than I trust them enough to handle it realistically and maturely, of course given the current writers it could be handled poorly.

  • I'm absolutely disgusted by this post. You honestly think they did this just to sell copies? A persons sexuality doesn't define a person or a character. What did you expect them to turn Ellie into a fucking stereotype just because she kissed a girl? It made complete sense. Riley being the only companionship she's ever had it makes sense that she would be attracted to her.

    Her being a lesbian doesn't change anything about the story,

    It's not supposed to be a "OMG SHE'S A LESBIAN" moment.

    But her loving Riley does change the story, because what Riley says to her in the final scene of Left behind factors into Ellie's mindset when keeping Joel alive in winter.

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    Seriously WTF WHY? So? What's your point? Are saying you had a problem with Ellie possibly being a lesbian? Why? Her being a l

  • How is that disturbing? Unless you're assuming some people are fantasizing about that.

    The 'apocalyptic slut' seems to be pretty common in media about the post-apocalyptic world. Part of the whole male-fantasy package.

    Here's a (disturbing) question... What if Clementine grew up to be a "wild child?" Not discerning herself or wanting to be "tied down" by

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    When Bethesda sets a time for the game to be released, that's when the game get's released. They don't even set back games they themselves are developing, like The Elder Scrolls. Those game's have so much cut content, it's ridiculous.

  • Well, there's aren't any more signs of her being straight than there are of her being bi, are there?

    J-Master posted: »

    I don't think turning Clem into a homo or bi is a good idea, not that I'm against gays or bis or anything, it's just it'll probably cause a

  • edited November 2014

    It's weird.

    Our culture objectifies men and women all the time, particularly women in american advertising (not that men arent sometimes), and there's a big focus on straight men trying to 'win' sex with women or being a player for getting laid or whatever.

    And yet, when it's someone they know, they don't want them to have sex....ever.

    The same's true with daughters. It highlights the interesting juxtapositional double-standard between 'mm boobies' and 'my 16 year old daughter better not be having sex'

    Sorry, off-topic for LGBT stuff, but just some observations I've gleaned from this thread.

  • The Clem Sexuality Defense Squad?

    CrazyGeorge posted: »

    God this shit is so stupid. Stop being such a SJW for a made up character. Jesus Christ.

  • Well...I don't know, I honestly would have NO problem if she was gay or bi, I mean I would be fine if they made it feel natural or believable, I just don't want this idea to blow up in TT's faces.

    Nutmeg posted: »

    Yeah, I get where you're coming from. But to be honest, if Clem is confirmed non-straight and some people start to rant about it and stop pl

  • No, it's disturbing because he's asking what if that "apocalyptic slut" was Clement-

    I can't even finish the sentence, it's so fucked up.

    Bokor posted: »

    How is that disturbing? Unless you're assuming some people are fantasizing about that. The 'apocalyptic slut' seems to be pretty common in media about the post-apocalyptic world. Part of the whole male-fantasy package.

  • You're asexual too? :D

    Lilacsbloom posted: »

    Well I'm asexual =D I'd kill to see a character in a game be asexual because I've just never seen it in anything except for this one vague m

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