"Season 2 Clementine has no emotions!"
This statement.... I can't help but feel people played a different season 2 when they blatantly shout out this statement that lacks very much knowledge. Now don't get confused here, I'm not making this thread to start up flame wars, that would be the least of my goals. My goal in making this is to shed light on this subject and basically call the people who claim Clementine is a robot with no emotions out on their lack of knowledge about this topic. I'm also creating this for reference any time someone says this.
Now this picture my friends, shows just a few highlights of Clementines emotions throughout Season 2, AGAIN, only a few, I'm sure I could go on for hours digging through Season 2 videos to see the immense amount of emotions Clementine gives, but I won't do that because partially you get the point (at least I hope so) and partially because I'm too damn lazy to keep going with that picture, you realize how slow Photoshop scrolls when your images get that long? Yeah, it ain't pretty.
I don't usually make threads like these but I think over enough time I've seen people constantly say S2 Clem has no emotion that it's been on my waiting list for a while now, so there you go. Discuss, if you want ^-^
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I only ever felt that during episode 1, but after that it was pretty much fixed :P
Agony sounds better than Pain
I can always change it if need be :L
I never said anything about her emotions(though those pics don't prove much) I said I disliked season 2 Clementine because she was overpowered and didn't even feel like a character. She had little character development.
I never said you did?
They don't? How so? The proof is right there, they're her emotions, body language can go a long way when finding someones emotions.
She had 2 seasons of development, I'd understand if someone complained about her being overdeveloped, but underdeveloped? No way.
I think it's because most of the time her voice remains monotone like Ben Stein in a kind of blank state. So facial emotions aside yeah she is kinda emotionally mute a lot of the time
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Like GOUSTTTT said it's about the voice. She didn't sound very emotional, she sounded sleepy if anything. Besides that the only pic I see even a little emotion in is maybe the 5th pic.
People didn't like Clem because she wasn't who she was in season 1, almost like she matured and developed and lost and suffered throughout the sixteen months, shaping who she was in season 2.
People just wanted her to be the naively innocent moralist she was in season 1, which may describe why people blindly like Sarah as a character. But now that's an entirely different argument.
Season 2 Clem (disregarding No Going Back) > Season 1 Clem
Well uhhh, I think you need to look a little harder :P
Also, vocal emotion isn't the only way to emote, if anything physical emotion is the way most people are able to identify how someone is feeling. Like for example, if someone you knew came to you and was looking sad, but you asked them what was wrong and they went "Nothing, it's fine" if you went only based on vocal emotion then, as that person said, everything would be fine. So to put it simply, vocal emotion isn't everything, and in fact I don't really think vocal emotion is as important as physical emotion.
The only time the facial expressions pissed me off were how indifferent she was about Luke's death.
Well I guess it depends on how you view it, I personally didn't find many differences between S1 and S2 Clementine. Aside from the obvious differences (Physical appearance and, attitude (though keep in mind her attitude is shaped by how the player plays her)) Aside from that she acts just as if she would have in S1 if you take away her shyness from S1, she still holds a lot of traits from Season 1. Such as how she's very intelligent for her age, she helps out the group (more than just morally this time around) and still for the most part holds good morals.
Why? She looks very shocked, which makes sense for what just happened :P
In defense of this picture, she just watched two people plunge straight through a layer of ice
Right there one second, both gone under the water the next
That's a "Did that just fucking happen" face
You say shocked, I say zoned out like me when I was in first grade math :P
Them facial animations are essential when making a dramatic emotional story driven game and Telltale make the best. Most of this plays off of what choices you make and the other half is Clem keeping her cool so people don't think "shut up little kid". The girl shows and emits emotion, it's just more subtle now than ever. Lots of people playing as her want Clem to act more like a child and others want to continue to play as an adult. I think Telltale is trying to go for the middle ground in S2. There's a thousands of reasons as to why Clementine dosn't laugh out loud or cry like infant, but her performance is well done or good enough to get the point across.
She still doesn't look scared just frozen. I expected a flinch or something. She just looked like "Oh"
When people say she has no emotion I stop taking them seriously.
Having a monotone delivery in some places could be intentional.
I always got the feeling that it was her way of coping with some things - being emotionally and physically drained will do that to a person. Or being in shock could also cause a child to retreat into themselves. Not to mention, that as a young girl with a group of strange adults, none of which she can really trust, Clem may have just been being reserved or fed up with the bickering or what have you.
I also think that spending 16 months with Christa, who was most likely severely depressed and distant with Clem, would have had a very real effect on Clementines willingness/ability to open up to people, or show them her vulnerabilities. Therefore, she may come off as cold, hard, distant or calculating. Much more so than she would have if she had a loving home to grow in, or a more open and free group of people to spend time with.
That's not indifference, she's in SHOCK! Obviously she cared about Luke's death, they were closer than she had been with anyone since Lee.
It's not like any of the 'adults' in her vicinity gave her an opportunity to even grasp or speak of what happened. Except for Bonnie telling her it was all her fault. IMO Clem wouldn't have opened up to any of the people left about her feelings or showed them any weakness anyways. She would have talked to Luke about it though.
This is what i think as well.
Clem is VERY aware that she is on her own, surrounded by these people or not. She is on her own, and for her to behave like a child, and get weepy or be unable to pull her own weight, makes her vulnerable and a liability to herself or a group. I think she grasps her situation better than anyone who has been travelling with her.
Good boy, Tobi!
That's the point. She isn't scared; she's frozen in shock.
It's not an emotionless blank stare. It's the kind of stare someone has when they see something so shocking, surprising, or otherwise traumatic, that they literally cannot process what emotion they should be expressing. It's like the thousand-yard stare.
I never truly understood that argument either, maybe she didn't show as much emotion as she did in Season 1, which is understandable since we've been in the apocalypse for two years, but she definitely showed emotion, as you displayed above. I honestly never had a problem with the way Clem acted in Season 2, only when she did stuff that didn't make sense like the wind turbine.
I can't stand it when people say that Clementine didn't show any emotions during S2. Of course she has to conceal a lot of them because her enviroment expects her to grow up fast and do a lot of things that actually should be done by the adults of her group but God forbid that the adults do anything that could help her handle this whole 'surviving' thing better. The only person that truly cared for her was Lee and she had to fucking shoot him/leave him to die and that probably gave her a huge trauma. She doesn't want to get close to people and show her true self to people in her group because she already knows that soon they'll all wind up dead, just like the last time she's been in a group.
It's interesting of how this thread has turned into the struggle between the facts (the OP's pic) and dogmatism (those who deny the evidence of the pic)
Awwwwww
This is one of the reasons I hate Clem in S2.
I loved season 1 Clem because you can actually HEAR her calling out to Lee and you'd know she was happy or scared because you can just hear it in her little voice. She also had that cute normal little girl voice and sounded adorable! She's only 11 in season 2 and sounds so different and she sounds depressed. I know she probably is depressed but I don't think Telltale did it for that reason.
It's not so much she lacks emoting that it is she feels a lot less emotive. Which, don't get me wrong, is understandable, given all she's been through. But you can especially hear it in her voice. It doesn't help that she tends to get this really sour puss on her face at times.
Do I understand why she's a lot more cynical? Yes, of course. But do I find it preferable to her optimistic naivety in season 1? No. It's one of the reasons why I feel she didn't work as a protagonist.
So even if she is depressed, she shouldn't sound like it? That makes no sense at all, and it would be completely ridiculous if she lived through what she has so far and none of it phases her at all.
Even reading all the replies to this I still don't understand why people think Clementine is emotionless.
I know you will try to explain by saying it is her voice but, what are you talking about? She has emotion in her voice, you can hear it. I really don't understand what you all are talking about.
I'm confused.
I like this one the best:
Then do you ask the people: "Ar ya stupid?", Right?
yeah she should sound like she's depressed but even when she " tries " to be happy it sound the same sometimes
Sorry for bad english
I am shocked by the people who speak such stupid things that Clem does not show any emotions.
She showed more than anyone of emotions in the season 2 and even more than in the season 1. She became more a strong. She was no longer crying, and no longer afraid walkers as in season 1, because after the death of Omid it has gone through 1.5 years of the apocalypse nearly herself. She was alone with Crista.
They had night shifts, venturing night sallies, killing walkers alone, because men no longer have to protect them. She was accustomed to this way of life and it will never make it without emotional. Those people who say that Clem does not show any emotions is better to think about how they could even have all these emotions like Clem if lost their parents and the closest person in one day, and then had to survive in cruel world the apocalypse without the support and sadness and alone...
And you all think better about themselves when you say that you you don't care about AJ and you throw him at the first opportunity.
It's a small, defenseless child. Which should be protected and defended. He is pure and innocent, unlike us adults who managed to offend so many loved ones in your life, and make as many silly things. We were all children. Now Imagine that your mother gave birth to you in a zombie apocalypse. The woman you love. Would you want her to do that to you? Would you want her to do that to you!?
Do you know why you are still alive? Thanks to her. All you! Some people are generally not Mom or Dad, who would care about them.
Your parents love you so have left you when you were born. They fed, gave to drink, clothed and cared for you, thus you're right here right now. Near the computer to the Internet. And I'm going to believe that you are grateful that they have not left you. Because they LOVE you, as you LOVE them. If they did not loved, that would leave you at once. But they did not this!
As the this did not Clem. AJ's parents died. And all the people close to him were - is Clementine. And I am sure that she will take care of him.
You better think about your actions in life and put YOURSELF in the place of another.
Please...
Welp going to do some Legend Of Zelda Ocarina of Time....
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Melissa is a great voice actor. I bet they told her to tone down the emotion for season two Clementine because she's had so much trauma.
I like how TTG recycled the same sounds/ peoples screams. IE Joelene's scream. I laughed.
Personally i feel that it was lacking emotion throughout the game, to the point i didn't care how it ended by episode five. I felt little to no connection to any of the people she was with, other than Nick who had this storyline, "where we were supposed to look out for him", and that never happened.
Or when Sarah dies needlessly, whatever. Clementine didn't care. I laughed about how much of a after thought she was. Sarah dies, no one says a word other than, "are you ok."
I laughed my butt off. I was thinking to myself, i would respond, YEAH I'm SWELL.
Nope it's HappyCXX CXX(very hardcore)