Which Bro Did You Choose?

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  • That was the one thing I felt INCREDIBLY bad about. Rodrik just got Elaena's booty and now she would be "deflowered" and no one wants that in a wife. They made promises to each other and now she lost both her brother and fiancé in one fucking episode goes off to cry

    AronDracula posted: »

    I have the same thought as yours. I saved Rodrik cause I promised Elaena that I'll marry her, she just lost her brother. Anyone who chose Asher destroyed Elaena's life, but I'll respect that cause Asher is or was my favourite too.

  • I sure hope so. :)

    Well... lucky for you then, because you'll have your wish

  • Asher would become Lord next

    Can't and wouldn't. He was exiled, and he has no want to running the House. Him becoming Lord would be like the Ramsay having a unicorn and throwing flowers all over the place.

  • The male heirs always come first, so it would be Ryon, then the eldest daughter, which would be Mira, and then Talia. Of course Ryon and Mira both aren't at Ironrath, so their mother might act as Lady Regent.

    YForrester posted: »

    I think that the one who you did saved will have a major role from now on. Who would lead the house if they both die? The one who's not your traitor? Or Elyssa? Or Talia? Maybe maester Ortegryn?

  • :'(

    Yaya1314 posted: »

    That was the one thing I felt INCREDIBLY bad about. Rodrik just got Elaena's booty and now she would be "deflowered" and no one wants that i

  • Well in my play through Rodrik named Asher Lord. At this point, I don't think Asher would deny the title. He has no other choice. It was Rodrik's last order and in that moment I'm pretty sure Rodrik had the power to revoke Asher's exile.

    Barthanax posted: »

    Asher would become Lord next Can't and wouldn't. He was exiled, and he has no want to running the House. Him becoming Lord would be like the Ramsay having a unicorn and throwing flowers all over the place.

  • edited July 2015

    Agreed, and Asher's alliance with Daenerys. That also was a big factor in my diction.

    P.S. And most of all Asher is also my favorite character in the game. He was also the logical choice. Win win. ;)

    Same.

  • He would have been lord anyway due to the fact that he was exiled but not disowned (however due to the fact that he was in slavers bay, if Rodrick had randomly died while Ryon was still in Whitehill captivity. Then Talia would De Facto become the Lady until Ryon's or Mira's return, because Asher is exiled and would not return to claim his lordship.) It is most likley an oversight by the developers to explain that Asher was disowned aswell

    Yaya1314 posted: »

    Well in my play through Rodrik named Asher Lord. At this point, I don't think Asher would deny the title. He has no other choice. It was Rodrik's last order and in that moment I'm pretty sure Rodrik had the power to revoke Asher's exile.

  • Rodrik survives in my playthough. I love both brothers, but in my playthrough, Asher is extremely devoted to his family, as everything he did in Essos was for the sake of his family. So for me, it makes most sense for Asher to sacrifice his life for Rodrik, because he is that loyal and devoted. Also, it fits the story better for me, that Rodrik will be the one who leads his house and end the war.

  • edited July 2015

    I picked Asher. Although I wanted to pick Rodrik badly Asher just seemed like the better choice as far as story goes. I really wanted Rodrik to stick around so he could finally get his revenge on the Whitehills, but there was likely to be conflict with the Pit Fighters following his orders if Asher died. It also made more sense since Royland was my traitor and I pretty much did take Duncan's advice. Whether you agree with Royland or not, Rodrik had failed to protect the house, so I kind of looked at Rodrik's sacrifice as him symbolically handing the keys over to Asher. With Asher's attitude, and the added fuel of another brothers death, he now has no reason not to rain total hell down on the Whitehills.

    Though I have a sneaking suspicion that it may not be too hard to get the Pit Fighters to listen to Rodrik in the next episode. Guess I wont know until I do a second playthrough.

  • I laughed so damn hard at how you spelt Daenerys' name.

    Dunareis. haha

    Supergirl66 posted: »

    Agreed, and Asher's alliance with Daenerys. That also was a big factor in my diction. P.S. And most of all Asher is also my favorite character in the game. He was also the logical choice. Win win.

  • Rodrik was hurt. Even though he acted tough, he still wasn't as strong as Asher. I want to see the house survive and be strong. Asher is tough and he has peope following him. Rodrik hardly has anyone's loyalty. I am sad for Talia because first she lost her twin and then her big brother. I am also sad for Elena, but Asher was the clear choice. A battle is coming up and Asher is ready.

  • Posted this in a different thread but it's relevant here too;

    I like both Asher and Rodrik. So I was really hoping for a cool brothers fighting in war side-by-side moment in the final episode.

    But narratively I thought Rodrik being the one to stay behind made more sense, aside from the fact Asher has the loyalty of the pit fighters at the moment, I feel like Rodrik's defied death once and he's been almost running on fumes ever since, so this was his moment to go, plus I think sacrificing himself for his younger brother felt like a Rodrik thing to do. I also thought it would have just been a weak, anti-climactic end to Asher's journey by taking him so far, being found by Malcolm in Yunkai, traveling to Meereen and going through everything he did there to get together a group to help fight the Whitehill's only for him to die two seconds after arriving in Westeros. It'd be like Scatman Crothers returning to the Overlook Hotel only to get an axe to the chest asap. Like, just a bit of a non-event, and a particularly deflating end for the character in a way having Rodrik die there wouldn't. Also I just think Asher is cool as fuck.

    I don't really understand the rationale of things like "Rodrik is wiser" and stuff like that. He's only as wise as you make him. You can make Asher just as thoughtful through your choices if you wish. I know I've been playing Asher to be pretty much just as considered and thoughtful in his approach as Rodrik, doesn't just kill on a whim, nor do I play him as some ill-disciplined savage.

    As an aside, isn't Rodrik dead for all Asher knows before arriving back in Westeros? I mean Malcolm didn't know that Rodrik had survived did he? Yet there seems to be no look of surprise or anything for Asher seeing Rodrik stood there on his arrival.

  • Asher proved that he was a very talented killer, but do you really think "killing" and "ruling" are the same thing??, Rodrick has been trained to take over the house since he was born. Not only was he a very talented swords men that Lannister soldiers even feared upon the battlefield. He survived the red wedding and can still hold his own against the Whithills after months of pain. Asher to me seemed like someone who made choices without thinking them through. He put the lives of his family on the line when he made a very poor move to run away with Gywn Whithill. I loved Asher to the very end, he did his job and came back to fight along side his older brother. it was more of Asher duty to sacrifice himself for Rodrick as he is the older brother and knows the land and laws he means to rule.

  • Exactly - House Forrester needs Rodrik alive - he has both the skill and reputation - Asher needed to sacrifice himself to save his more experienced ruling brother, for the good of the House.

    Asher proved that he was a very talented killer, but do you really think "killing" and "ruling" are the same thing??, Rodrick has been train

  • There's also the symbolism with Rodrik's ending, it in every way mirrors his father's sacrifice from the beginning of the game, It isn't as strong with Asher doing it in a sellsword's leather jerkin and Essosi grime all over him. I like seeing Rodrik make the ultimate sacrifice just like his father, Northern Plate, ancestral sword, a badass Northman.

    It symbolizes that Rodrik was in every way his father's son, a leader, a lord, and a Northman, in action, not just in title.

  • Aye, Roderick stayed to die and Asher went on. I'd already made my decision the second the choice came up. But I took a minute or so until clicking.

    Roderick was cripple and everything he'd tried had ended up failing. Asher just seems a better leader.

  • People who had Rodrik go on seem to be thinking three steps ahead; "I wanted Rodrik to take revenge on Gryff and Ludd, it's more meaningful if he does it." I don't know how that's gonna happen if his twenty or so fighting men don't have any pitt fighters (however few there are) to help them win the war in the first place.

    Mariana238 posted: »

    Aye, Roderick stayed to die and Asher went on. I'd already made my decision the second the choice came up. But I took a minute or so until c

  • I think Rodrick surviving would have been better story wise because he's been dealing with these whitehills longer since asher was in essos for 3 1/2 episodes and i also thought about the whole effect of Asher's death being more than just a revenge tale but adds the whole dynamic of how beshka will react to Rodrick and how the pit fighters would react to Rodrick leading them as well since Asher( the one they respected) is dead. But regardless of that i chose to save Asher because he in my opinion is more fun to play with and more bad ass. fear however since we were given an ultimatum on who lived that no matter who ever you choose will die anyways just like how anytime you have a decision to bring someone along, kill or spare someone, or choose between two people who to save TT kills them off anyway. (ex: Finn, Carly/Doug, Lily(although she didn't die she left and never appeared again, same with bowen) that is why i feel like no mater whom you saved the other will die anyways and i think same goes with Duncan/Roylan that they both will die because you are given an option to kill which ever whom is the traitor and that not only the traitor will die anyways but that your sentinel will die as well no matter what

  • I'm also curious how Gwyn would react to finding out Harys and Gryff had Asher brutally killed.

    Pabster23 posted: »

    I think Rodrick surviving would have been better story wise because he's been dealing with these whitehills longer since asher was in essos

  • Malcolm and Lady Forrester most likely exchanged letters. in episode 5 after you deal with the trader they say "there's no way to reach asher he is on a boat" most likely confirms they have been communicating with each other in some way even if it was just like updates on each others situation

    Posted this in a different thread but it's relevant here too; I like both Asher and Rodrik. So I was really hoping for a cool brothers

  • I think your right in that no matter what both brothers will die next episode but there is no way in hell TT is dumb enough to make them minor roles in the season finale of the game. could you imagine the outrage and the cries for their head if whomever you saved died right when the episode started before the big season finish... I think whomever you chose to keep alive will play the biggest role in the finale episode and in the big battle coming against the whitehills however i do think they both will be dead by the end of the episode because of what you said and TT track record of not keeping choice dependent characters alive like ever...

    Gamer2210 posted: »

    Correct me if I'm wrong, but Telltale has never let a Choice Dependant Character stay alive for long. Every single life or death choice is j

  • I chose Rodrik. I was panicking, I didn't have time to think through. It just happened too fast. I cried when Asher died, especially when Beshka was begging.

  • Apparantly I'm one of the only ones who picked Asher to stay.

    .....yeah, I'm just going to walk away quietly now.

  • How though? Didn't they kill all their ravens specifically to prevent communication when they found out there was a traitor?

    Pabster23 posted: »

    Malcolm and Lady Forrester most likely exchanged letters. in episode 5 after you deal with the trader they say "there's no way to reach ashe

  • could be before that happened like episode 2 when they found out rodrick had lived and Ethan had just died, the mom could have sent one to malcom and maybe before Asher left essos left as well but maybe just malcom sending one that says hey we got you "sellswords" be ready for Asher. im not saying they were talking back and forth but maybe like a total of two times they sent each other something

    How though? Didn't they kill all their ravens specifically to prevent communication when they found out there was a traitor?

  • Same here.

    Duderson posted: »

    I'm also curious how Gwyn would react to finding out Harys and Gryff had Asher brutally killed.

  • I choose Rodrik to stay. I really really liked him. But i felt that he played his part mostly and now its time for Asher. and I couldnt leave Beskha behind. But im sad about Eleana, She lost her brother and now her future husband.

    Im really not a fan of this choice or this episode at all.

  • edited July 2015

    I disagree, Rodrik was skilled in leadership and feared. Now he is a cripple that is a shadow of his former self, I mean just think about it would Rodrik watch another brother get killed when there was something he could do about it? And if you look at the last stand scene it looks like Rodrik was the one meant to sacrifice himself. But Beshka's speech nearly had me in tears man

    Harian96 posted: »

    Exactly - House Forrester needs Rodrik alive - he has both the skill and reputation - Asher needed to sacrifice himself to save his more experienced ruling brother, for the good of the House.

  • Kept rodrick and it was glorious. Made my asher the perfect anti hero doing everything for his family and his sacrifice played out awesomely! So much in character for my asher, even his last words. Besides, I feel rodrick to be more viable as a lord and asher as a soldier who had finished his duty. Plus I have my bride at ironath and I want to defeat the whitehills as rodrick. Just played out perfect besides griffs recovery.... the fuck I took his eye out?! I guess the Lord of light must be strong in him (and telltale s laziness).

  • I left Asher, the way I was building up the characters through their actions, well it made more sense for Asher to stay as I was playing him more as a straight up good guy than Rodrick, who is more of a man of his word but really cold and not really afraid to kill, well in my file anyway.

  • I saved Rodrik because I want him to kill Gryff and as he said in episode 3 "You know what they did to me at the Twins? Shred my face. Put their swords through me. Tried to smash my skull open. But they couldn't kill me. And you are not the man to finish the job". It would've been awful to see Rodrik at Gryff's feet.

  • Thanks.

    Wigams posted: »

    I laughed so damn hard at how you spelt Daenerys' name. Dunareis. haha

  • Aye, But Gryff was not the one who finished the job either ways. it was his soldiers who greatly outnumbered Rodirk that did.

    FrostNight posted: »

    I saved Rodrik because I want him to kill Gryff and as he said in episode 3 "You know what they did to me at the Twins? Shred my face. Put t

  • I choose to leave Rodrik, Asher is the best character to me, can't let him die... And he didn't travel back from Mereen and went so far to die like this!

  • Though I was really close to leaving Rodrik behind, I realized making one last sacrifice for his family would have been a fitting end to Asher's redemption story. He knew he hadn't been exactly a role model in the eyes of the Forresters and he deserved for that to change. Besides, if anyone deserves to put an end to the Whitehills, it's Rodrik. He's the one who's gotten tormented all this time and has been there through it all. We owe it to him to give him a chance to slice Ludd's throat open.

    R.I.P, Asher.

  • I like that people are so divided (according to the game stats), but stop with the "well Asher has pit fighter respect", there were only 8 and a few have already died. lmao

  • Maybe she'll marry Asher instead. Haha. Like how it went with Catelyn Stark. She's engaged to Ned's brother first, right? Haha. I don't like Gwyn for some reason. Every attempt she made ended badly for House Forrester anyway.

    AronDracula posted: »

    I have the same thought as yours. I saved Rodrik cause I promised Elaena that I'll marry her, she just lost her brother. Anyone who chose Asher destroyed Elaena's life, but I'll respect that cause Asher is or was my favourite too.

  • I chose Rodrik to stay. Hard for me to say but if I were Lord Forrester, I'd sacrifice myself for my family in a heartbeat. Asher is an amazing leader (plus he impressed the sellswords. Not sure they'll follow Rodrik), in tip top shape to lead the family too. I got that Rodrik promised to marry Eleana but I feel as a Lord, I have to consider my people first.

  • edited July 2015

    Well Asher has pit figthers respect...

    BTW, like Rodrik's troops were a massive Dothroraki Khalasar...It was about 8 guys as well, it's a valid point.

    I like that people are so divided (according to the game stats), but stop with the "well Asher has pit fighter respect", there were only 8 and a few have already died. lmao

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