I think killing Ludd deals more damage to the Whitehills in the long run, since it means that Gryff and Torrhen has to deal with the issue of who gets to rule the house. Remember, they don't have the best relationship as Gwyn mentioned in episode 4.
I think he ended with Gwyn because in my first run I did call the plan off. And I wanted to be at least a little nice to them.
Elissa start… moreet the fight - so as Asher did kill Gryff: a guard stabed Asher and the guard did get attacked by Gwyn.
At the end: Duncan saved Asher. Did get him at the back (more like ass) of a horse and my Asher ended then with Gwyn and Talia.
You don't poison him no matter what, you can also choose to ambush the Whitehill garrison instead, and he survives that. However, that might only happen if you don't call it off, I don't know what happens if you call the ambush off.
I think I got the worst ending
ASHER
Lady Forester sacrificed herself so that the plan could go "through"
Beshka saved Ryon and the… morey ran off to who knows where
The Whitehills broke through Ironwrath
Asher is barely clinging to life off somewhere
MIRA
I told Lady Margery about sneaking in
I refused Morgryn's "proposal".
Mira got her head fucking chopped off
GARED
I gave Cotter the poison and he died
I marched off (to the desolate ruins) to Ironwrath
33% of players fucking lost the Game of Thrones...
A sword to the stomach is a 50/50 shot of living. It didn't hit their actual stomach but the angle implies below the large intestine and maybe through the small which is survivable. but it is a 50/50 shot even back then.
Well I rewound before I saw it all, but he gets stabbed pretty gruesomely and vigorously through the gut. So I assumed.
Edit: ok nevermind he didn't die, but I don't see how he survives those injuries then again he is Asher.
Disappointed that they took most their time working on the Asher/Rodrik part (though it makes sense why they did) because Mira and Gareds st… moreory lines were the most important (although that's obviously an opinion).
But, I loved the Asher play through. And I like how different Ludd is in each of them.
When Asher was completely surrounded and was just going to be killed...
I made him say "Oh not on my good side..."
Oh, my Asher. Never stop being yourself.
To be honest I enjoyed it, it can end in several ways:
Mira living but Tom taking her place in the beheading or Mira being beheaded.
G… moreared defending the North Grove or leaving it.
Rodrik/Asher living with Talia, determinantly Royland/Duncan and for Asher, determinantly Gwyn.
There were allot of determinants this episode, I loved how choices mattered allot this time, TellTaleGames' stepping up their game.
You can either poison Ludd which makes his eyes bleed, nose bleed, and he coughs blood with a pale and purple face. OR you can behead him after stabbing him in his fat fat gut.
My ending screen said "21.9% Fought with Fierce Passion" - does that mean I did good?
Beshka saved Ryon, I killed Gryff, Rodrick survived… more with Talia and Duncan (had to watch my fiance die/get raped which really sucked), Gared gave Cotter the poison and marched to Ironwrath, and Mira told the truth and denied becoming a slave to Morgryn.
Can't find any vid on youtube that shows what happens when you poison Ludd, that'd be pretty nice to watch. Does it differ much from the ambush like gwyn still stabs asher and loads of your men die?
Am not reading a majority of these but I have two playthroughs - The one where Roddy lived and the one where Asher lived.
I will not lie and say I have done fcked up a few times on the Roddy play through but is there any way to save lady Forrester? She died when I was fighting the big Whitehill guy in ironrath where he's trying to shove my head into a flaming cart and I didn't think I hate missed hitting the q button at all but she ended up coming to my rescue the two times I tried to do it over....does she just die? Can I prevent this? I have never fcked up so hard in a video game before and I can't take it if this is cannon.
Am not reading a majority of these but I have two playthroughs - The one where Roddy lived and the one where Asher lived.
I will not lie an… mored say I have done fcked up a few times on the Roddy play through but is there any way to save lady Forrester? She died when I was fighting the big Whitehill guy in ironrath where he's trying to shove my head into a flaming cart and I didn't think I hate missed hitting the q button at all but she ended up coming to my rescue the two times I tried to do it over....does she just die? Can I prevent this? I have never fcked up so hard in a video game before and I can't take it if this is cannon.
I'm surprised only 15% decided to trust Gwyn and not go through with plan - this will get you an extra scene at the end of Gwyn + Talia tending to the half-dead Asher and you still get to stab Gwyff. Having rewinded a few times, this actually seemed the best ending. (none of the other choices really change much - Ironrath always gets burned and lotta people gonna die; and the other choices are mostly season 2 bait)
The only other major life-or-death is the terrible conclusion to the Mira storyline - you either kill Mira or choose the live but the game will make you feel extra bad for just choosing life. None of her choices matters AT ALL other than maybe a one liner in the epilogue.
Thank you for telling me.
But omg my heart. Ow.
I feel bad too because the first time I saw her die I basically rage quit and then I thought, "Oh, wait, the Whitehills...ehhhh...if I give up the small folk then they might not get reinforcements but they still came through on the second time so I let my people die, sorta didn't give Cotter the poison and I'm pretty sure Sylvi ran away, AND I DIDN'T HAVE THE HEART TO TELL ELEANA TO GO TO THE RIVERLANDS AND SHE LAJKSOD/F YI]HAS09-DPRV GFH[OA1SI'/FH[POAIS/DFHLAIKS
She gonna be preggers with Roddy's baby and I let her stay and she got hurt and dragged off and Gryff is gonna hurt her and I'm going to hurt so fucking much.
I'm sorry, but Elissa is going to die anyway
I felt really bad for it, too. But she was so happy, on her dying moment, to see that she was able to save at least one of her children.
They're talking about Elaena. She gets found and dragged across the battlefield, but it's not known if they killed her or not. Personally, I think she's still alive because we don't actually see her get killed off.
They're talking about Elaena. She gets found and dragged across the battlefield, but it's not known if they killed her or not. Personally, I think she's still alive because we don't actually see her get killed off.
True, but considering Elaena's an important character to Rodrik and she's also been in 4 episodes I think they would of at least showed us her death. I mean it's really up for interpretation as to what happens to her , but I just don't think she's dead.
My ending screen said "21.9% Fought with Fierce Passion" - does that mean I did good?
Beshka saved Ryon, I killed Gryff, Rodrick survived… more with Talia and Duncan (had to watch my fiance die/get raped which really sucked), Gared gave Cotter the poison and marched to Ironwrath, and Mira told the truth and denied becoming a slave to Morgryn.
True, but considering Elaena's an important character to Rodrik and she's also been in 4 episodes I think they would of at least showed us h… moreer death. I mean it's really up for interpretation as to what happens to her , but I just don't think she's dead.
I am very disappointed -
no random generation of end, no influence counting to choose storyline, terrible graphics, unfinished game(100% useless inventory, mira got torch in proson but couldn t use it against that bady "will marry" man after saying him yes), animations are not 100% either, some movements felt "laggy" - half of it fixed and I wouldn´t say a word
but now when I see this is unfinished 95% linear money laundering " " " game " " ", hope some warez guy download it twice for me :-D
edit: btw, no sexual things as far as I remember!!! that s pretty unbalanced to deaths, GRR Martin wouldn´t release this piece of shit
I'm surprised only 15% decided to trust Gwyn and not go through with plan - this will get you an extra scene at the end of Gwyn + Talia tend… moreing to the half-dead Asher and you still get to stab Gwyff. Having rewinded a few times, this actually seemed the best ending. (none of the other choices really change much - Ironrath always gets burned and lotta people gonna die; and the other choices are mostly season 2 bait)
The only other major life-or-death is the terrible conclusion to the Mira storyline - you either kill Mira or choose the live but the game will make you feel extra bad for just choosing life. None of her choices matters AT ALL other than maybe a one liner in the epilogue.
The graphics are what makes Telltale interesting, their graphics are a certain style that's been lost for ages. How is the game unfinished? There is room for season 2. And if you read the books there are far more deaths to "sexual things" making it "unbalanced". Martin had a small hand in this. There isn't room for that in something like this it needed to move quickly for the stories those scenes would of slowed it down significantly.
damn... pretty much nothing was matter
I am very disappointed -
no random generation of end, no influence counting to choose storyline,… more terrible graphics, unfinished game(100% useless inventory, mira got torch in proson but couldn t use it against that bady "will marry" man after saying him yes), animations are not 100% either, some movements felt "laggy" - half of it fixed and I wouldn´t say a word
but now when I see this is unfinished 95% linear money laundering " " " game " " ", hope some warez guy download it twice for me :-D
edit: btw, no sexual things as far as I remember!!! that s pretty unbalanced to deaths, GRR Martin wouldn´t release this piece of shit
I think if we kept her alive we'll get to play her in S2 because she is still playing the Game of Thrones. In my play through I chose to have her Mary Morgryn because she can later get tougher than she already is and kill her husband. Mira is one tough cookie and I can see her being an important player next season, Buuuuuuut time will tell.
I think its Mira who gets the worst ending of all - becoming determinant - and to me this was a detrimental move in the finale.
But what'… mores done is done... Mira is either dead or becomes Morgryn's slave for the rest of her life (since she's determinant we won't get to play as her in S2 so her story is over).
Plus I think this stanza from Macbeth, properly summarizes the Ending and Game of Thrones in general,
"Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."
*Also for your enjoyment here's a video with Ned Stark (Sean Bean) reading the Above Stanza: enter link description here
He dies (hallelujah) - when he drinks the poison if you sacrifice your mother's life to pretend the wine isn't poisoned. And Gwyn still stabs Asher and loads die. I wouldn't mind to stab Gwyn, I can't stand her. Her life for Mira's! I want her back! ... going into a corner to cry now... :,(
Can't find any vid on youtube that shows what happens when you poison Ludd, that'd be pretty nice to watch. Does it differ much from the ambush like gwyn still stabs asher and loads of your men die?
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oh thanks. Yeah you are right with both
I think killing Ludd deals more damage to the Whitehills in the long run, since it means that Gryff and Torrhen has to deal with the issue of who gets to rule the house. Remember, they don't have the best relationship as Gwyn mentioned in episode 4.
If the traitor is spared the traitor saves you, if the traitor is dead your sentinel saves you, your choice.
Gwyn sees Gryff dying there as self defense.
You can kill Ludd and Ryon does live. So if want to murder the fat prick you can.
Your mother will start the fight, with Asher I know if your mother starts the fight she is there in the end. I don't know about Rodrik though.
You survived (some of you), you fought to the end, you didn't bow and scrape to your enemies. I'd call that victory.
A sword to the stomach is a 50/50 shot of living. It didn't hit their actual stomach but the angle implies below the large intestine and maybe through the small which is survivable. but it is a 50/50 shot even back then.
But hey the Gregor Forrester bastard childs huh?
I had an option that said "Not the face..."
You wanna be a Lannister? have fun in season 5
Also for once a determinant DOESN'T DIE!
You can either poison Ludd which makes his eyes bleed, nose bleed, and he coughs blood with a pale and purple face. OR you can behead him after stabbing him in his fat fat gut.
Wait what? Fiance? What happened?
Idk they're kinda dicks and if they can't fight with arrows and swords and they have to rely on magic then they are no Forrester
The poison is beautiful... But it's sad cause Elissa dies right after
Does she die even if you don't let her drink the wine?
Am not reading a majority of these but I have two playthroughs - The one where Roddy lived and the one where Asher lived.
I will not lie and say I have done fcked up a few times on the Roddy play through but is there any way to save lady Forrester? She died when I was fighting the big Whitehill guy in ironrath where he's trying to shove my head into a flaming cart and I didn't think I hate missed hitting the q button at all but she ended up coming to my rescue the two times I tried to do it over....does she just die? Can I prevent this? I have never fcked up so hard in a video game before and I can't take it if this is cannon.
I'm sorry, but Elissa is going to die anyway
I felt really bad for it, too. But she was so happy, on her dying moment, to see that she was able to save at least one of her children.
I'm surprised only 15% decided to trust Gwyn and not go through with plan - this will get you an extra scene at the end of Gwyn + Talia tending to the half-dead Asher and you still get to stab Gwyff. Having rewinded a few times, this actually seemed the best ending. (none of the other choices really change much - Ironrath always gets burned and lotta people gonna die; and the other choices are mostly season 2 bait)
The only other major life-or-death is the terrible conclusion to the Mira storyline - you either kill Mira or choose the live but the game will make you feel extra bad for just choosing life. None of her choices matters AT ALL other than maybe a one liner in the epilogue.
Thank you for telling me.
But omg my heart. Ow.
I feel bad too because the first time I saw her die I basically rage quit and then I thought, "Oh, wait, the Whitehills...ehhhh...if I give up the small folk then they might not get reinforcements but they still came through on the second time so I let my people die, sorta didn't give Cotter the poison and I'm pretty sure Sylvi ran away, AND I DIDN'T HAVE THE HEART TO TELL ELEANA TO GO TO THE RIVERLANDS AND SHE LAJKSOD/F YI]HAS09-DPRV GFH[OA1SI'/FH[POAIS/DFHLAIKS
She gonna be preggers with Roddy's baby and I let her stay and she got hurt and dragged off and Gryff is gonna hurt her and I'm going to hurt so fucking much.
THIS FINALE WAS GOOD AND I HATE MYSELF.
They're talking about Elaena. She gets found and dragged across the battlefield, but it's not known if they killed her or not. Personally, I think she's still alive because we don't actually see her get killed off.
Yes. She dies saving Asher's/Rodrick's life.
Only happens in a Rodrik playthrough, Elaena Glenmore gets dragged away by a bunch of Whitehill soldiers shortly before Rodrik escapes.
I was not happy at all with how my ending went and I almost went on a tirade in an entirely new thread. I have it saved somewhere.
I wanted Gryff and Ludd dead goddammit. What do I have to do to kill them both in the ambush?
Interesting, thanks for the info.
Yeah, however theres a few off screen kills during that sequence.
True, but considering Elaena's an important character to Rodrik and she's also been in 4 episodes I think they would of at least showed us her death. I mean it's really up for interpretation as to what happens to her , but I just don't think she's dead.
It's supposed to mean that you were very defiant of the Whitehills/Boltons. There are 5 different categories, I believe. I got instinct and nobility.
I fought with Unwavering Conviction.
Indeed, just pointing out its possible.. which would be bad of course. I think I agree though, shes probably not dead.
damn... pretty much nothing was matter
I am very disappointed -
no random generation of end, no influence counting to choose storyline, terrible graphics, unfinished game(100% useless inventory, mira got torch in proson but couldn t use it against that bady "will marry" man after saying him yes), animations are not 100% either, some movements felt "laggy" - half of it fixed and I wouldn´t say a word
but now when I see this is unfinished 95% linear money laundering " " " game " " ", hope some warez guy download it twice for me :-D
edit: btw, no sexual things as far as I remember!!! that s pretty unbalanced to deaths, GRR Martin wouldn´t release this piece of shit
Elaena --- or was I wrong in the assumption that that's what was happening when she was being dragged off?
The graphics are what makes Telltale interesting, their graphics are a certain style that's been lost for ages. How is the game unfinished? There is room for season 2. And if you read the books there are far more deaths to "sexual things" making it "unbalanced". Martin had a small hand in this. There isn't room for that in something like this it needed to move quickly for the stories those scenes would of slowed it down significantly.
I think if we kept her alive we'll get to play her in S2 because she is still playing the Game of Thrones. In my play through I chose to have her Mary Morgryn because she can later get tougher than she already is and kill her husband. Mira is one tough cookie and I can see her being an important player next season, Buuuuuuut time will tell.
Lololol ill be Tommen then
I fought with instinct & nobility
Plus I think this stanza from Macbeth, properly summarizes the Ending and Game of Thrones in general,
"Tomorrow, and tomorrow, and tomorrow,
Creeps in this petty pace from day to day
To the last syllable of recorded time,
And all our yesterdays have lighted fools
The way to dusty death. Out, out, brief candle!
Life’s but a walking shadow, a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."
*Also for your enjoyment here's a video with Ned Stark (Sean Bean) reading the Above Stanza: enter link description here
He dies (hallelujah) - when he drinks the poison if you sacrifice your mother's life to pretend the wine isn't poisoned. And Gwyn still stabs Asher and loads die. I wouldn't mind to stab Gwyn, I can't stand her. Her life for Mira's! I want her back! ... going into a corner to cry now... :,(
I got cunning strategy, too - by now it's 28.7%
Blue: Elected Duncan. Sacrificed Lady Forrester to poison the dirtbag Ludd. Stood up to Gryff regardless of consequences.
Red: Helped Cotter end his suffering. Kept your integrity but lost Margaery's favor.
Having Gwyn with me wouldn't make me happy either with all the horrible endings possible. I don't like her. I want Mira back! F Gwyn.