Who do you think are the most underrated and overrated characters in all of the games?

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  • edited December 2016

    Goddammit, you stole my idea! I literally tried to make a similar thread yesterday but I had connection issues, somehow lost the header text, and just said fuck it; It was called "Don't Believe the Hype! Critical Mistakes!"

    I'm not sure how exactly I should rate this, so I'll just make some occasionally biased guess:

    Underrated
    Brenda
    Michelle?
    Alvin
    Sarita
    Troy
    Mike?
    Reggie

    Overrated
    Kenny?
    Wyatt or Eddie
    Nate
    Arvo?

  • Great minds think alike, eh? :D

    DabigRG posted: »

    Goddammit, you stole my idea! I literally tried to make a similar thread yesterday but I had connection issues, somehow lost the header text

  • Underrated

    • Bonnie
    • Carver
    • Clementine (only talking about the forum community, tough. people everywhere else are fanatic for her and treat her as some kind of god.)
    • Christa
    • Luke
    • Jane

    Overrated

    • Omid
    • Nate
    • Nate
    • Nate
    • Arvo (again, only by the forums.)
    • Nick
    • Lee
  • edited October 2016

    I guess?

    ...Oh, you meant the topic. :blush:

    Great minds think alike, eh?

  • Underrated

    Bonnie

    Christa

    Overrated

    Nate

    Arvo (again, only by the forums.)

    Agreed

    Underrated * Bonnie * Carver * Clementine (only talking about the forum community, tough. people everywhere else are fanatic for her

  • edited December 2016

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  • edited October 2016

    Overrated: i dunno hum..... YEAH! Nate :)
    Underrated: Alvin, Sarah, Carlos, Oak, Sam, Reggie , doug and several others.

  • CathalOHaraCathalOHara Moderator
    edited October 2016

    Overrated: By a landslide Nick.

    Underrated: Doug and Alvin.

  • Underrated:

    Pete (both Petes)
    Christa
    Lilly
    Doug
    Sam
    Paige
    Norma

    Overrated:

    Nate
    Kenny
    Jane
    Arvo
    NATE

  • Sam

    The dog or the character from Michonne?

    UrbanRodrik posted: »

    Overrated: i dunno hum..... YEAH! Nate Underrated: Alvin, Sarah, Carlos, Oak, Sam, Reggie , doug and several others.

  • Sam

    The dog or the character from Michonne?

    LoseMyHome posted: »

    Underrated: Pete (both Petes) Christa Lilly Doug Sam Paige Norma Overrated: Nate Kenny Jane Arvo NATE

  • BOTH!

    Sam The dog or the character from Michonne?

  • edited October 2016

    Alright let's do this

    Overrated
    Clementine
    Luke
    Omid
    Larry(just a little bit, as he played the part pretty well. Just ain't seeing enough hatred for the guy though)

    Underrated
    Lee (seen quite a few people saying words to the effect that he had served his purpose and it was good that he died and shit. His character went way beyond "Clementine's guardian" imo)
    Becca
    Duck

    Perfectly rated
    Kenny and Jane - have their critics and what not but also a lot of fans and most importantly rated by the writers who rightly saw them as driving forces in the game.
    Lilly
    Carver
    Most of the Cabin group (seen as underwhelming, underdeveloped characters that never really took off)

  • The one that doesn't try to kill Clementine

    Sam The dog or the character from Michonne?

  • So...the Michonne character? ;)

    LoseMyHome posted: »

    The one that doesn't try to kill Clementine

  • Underrated Michelle?

    She was only in the game for... 2 minutes? And she killed ****.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Goddammit, you stole my idea! I literally tried to make a similar thread yesterday but I had connection issues, somehow lost the header text

  • Everyone I know on the forums (Okay, not everyone.. But most) loves Clementine...

    Underrated * Bonnie * Carver * Clementine (only talking about the forum community, tough. people everywhere else are fanatic for her

  • Underrated:

    1. Rebecca
    2. Walter
    3. Alvin
    4. Sarah

    Overrated:

    1. Luke
    2. Nate
    3. Nick
  • Overrated:

    • CARLEY!
    • Omid
    • Christa

    Underrated:

    • Doug
    • Mike
  • Overrated: Kenny

    Underrated: Paige, Arvo

  • Yeah, that's why I put her here. At the risk of going on a tangent, I really liked what she did from a storytelling perspective and wish she stuck around for another episode.

    Also, are you new here?

    Acheive250 posted: »

    Underrated Michelle? She was only in the game for... 2 minutes? And she killed ****.

  • Overrated: By a landslide Nick.

    Really?

    CathalOHara posted: »

    Overrated: By a landslide Nick. Underrated: Doug and Alvin.

  • Also, are you new here?

    No, I guess you haven't been on the TWD S3 waiting thread... I've been here since July (So I guess I am sort of new) But I've only started being really active the last couple of months.

    This is my first time on this thread though, sorry if it was a dumb thing to say.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Yeah, that's why I put her here. At the risk of going on a tangent, I really liked what she did from a storytelling perspective and wish she stuck around for another episode. Also, are you new here?

  • Oh okay. I just thought it was weird that you spoilered her (accidental) fatal victim even though it's one of the few things people know her for.

    Acheive250 posted: »

    Also, are you new here? No, I guess you haven't been on the TWD S3 waiting thread... I've been here since July (So I guess I am sort

  • Oh, I just prefer to avoid accidently spoiling anything for someone who might've not played it yet. (I, myself, haven't finished it yet) And I knew everyone would know what I'm talking about.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Oh okay. I just thought it was weird that you spoilered her (accidental) fatal victim even though it's one of the few things people know her for.

  • edited October 2016

    Yeah, that's unfortunately a hazard that most of us don't really bother safeguarding for. Nice of you to consider that, but this is one of those things where you probably shouldn't visit if you haven't completed any of the games yet.

    How far have you gotten?

    Acheive250 posted: »

    Oh, I just prefer to avoid accidently spoiling anything for someone who might've not played it yet. (I, myself, haven't finished it yet) And I knew everyone would know what I'm talking about.

  • Larry(just a little bit, as he played the part pretty well. Just ain't seeing enough hatred for the guy though)

    Uh...really? Cause I think that's more of a case of him being a Knight Templar that some people love to hate.

    Duck

    What a funny little guy.

    Most of the Cabin group (seen as underwhelming, underdeveloped characters that never really took off)

    For the sake of curiosity, who was the member(s) that appealed to you the most? How would you rank them amongst the others?

    wdfan posted: »

    Alright let's do this Overrated Clementine Luke Omid Larry(just a little bit, as he played the part pretty well. Just ain't seeing en

  • Yeah... I learned that the hard way... But I'm going to play TWD S3 as soon as the episodes release so there's no chance of spoilers.

    How far have you gotten?

    I finished Episode 3 maybe a week ago. I haven't played episode 4 or 5 yet.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Yeah, that's unfortunately a hazard that most of us don't really bother safeguarding for. Nice of you to consider that, but this is one of t

  • Yeah... I learned that the hard way... But I'm going to play TWD S3 as soon as the episodes release so there's no chance of spoilers.

    Oh, you poor thing. Hope the next comment isn't too spoiler sensitive for you, then.

    I finished Episode 3 maybe a week ago. I haven't played episode 4 or 5 yet.

    Oh good, you've complete what I find to be the weakest episode and have the two controversial ones left to go. Good luck with that!

    Acheive250 posted: »

    Yeah... I learned that the hard way... But I'm going to play TWD S3 as soon as the episodes release so there's no chance of spoilers. How far have you gotten? I finished Episode 3 maybe a week ago. I haven't played episode 4 or 5 yet.

  • Oh, you poor thing. Hope the next comment isn't too spoiler sensitive for you, then.

    :|

    DabigRG posted: »

    Yeah... I learned that the hard way... But I'm going to play TWD S3 as soon as the episodes release so there's no chance of spoilers.

  • The next two episodes, I mean.

    Acheive250 posted: »

    Oh, you poor thing. Hope the next comment isn't too spoiler sensitive for you, then.

  • May I ask why you find Episode 3 to be the weakest?

    DabigRG posted: »

    The next two episodes, I mean.

  • Underrated:
    Mark
    Christa

    Overrated:
    Nate
    Kenny

  • Feel like Omid was a tad overrated. He was a burden for most of his time with Lee, he never does anything noteworthy, and then he dies in a pitiful way.

  • Primarily? Because it's bare as fuck.

    It was an astoundingly disappointing follow-up to the previous episode(the strongest in my opinion), can be summed up in in two words (jail break), and many of the Season's problems are introduced there and they start strong, too.

    Not to mention about 80% of the cast was neglected with Kenny, Carver, Bonnie, Kenny, Rebecca, and Sarah being the only ones who matter from a development standpoint; this includes Clementine herself, btw.

    Acheive250 posted: »

    May I ask why you find Episode 3 to be the weakest?

  • Yeah, I thought about that myself. To be fair, I'm pretty sure people love Omid is because he came in at a time when laughter had ceased thanks to the loss of Duck and his friendly optimistic demeanor was a breath of fresh air. He wasn't very prominent in the story but his presence was a welcome one.

    Feel like Omid was a tad overrated. He was a burden for most of his time with Lee, he never does anything noteworthy, and then he dies in a pitiful way.

  • His lighthearted attitude was definitely appreciated at the time that he showed up. Unfortunately he just doesn't do much besides that.

    I always thought of Christa as 90% of the power couple because she was always the one helping with plans and offering advice.

    DabigRG posted: »

    Yeah, I thought about that myself. To be fair, I'm pretty sure people love Omid is because he came in at a time when laughter had ceased tha

  • For the fact that he has the guts to stand up to his xenophobic abuser (Kenny) even while being beaten to death.
    Or that he has only good things to say about Clementine if you spare him the meds, until he gets tricked into thinking that you/Clementine murdered his sister in cold blood.
    Or that when the above is true, his shooting Clementine becomes an accidental fight-or-flight response instead of purely out of revenge.
    Or how he managed to survive in a zombie apocalypse with broken glasses, a leg brace, a sister with sickle-cell anemia, two teammates who are trigger-happy and a lack of English in an English-speaking country.
    While STILL prioritizing his sister over himself and everything else.
    And he had objections to shooting Clementine in the first place, back on the observation deck before Jane made things worse. If someone else had shot Clem instead, he'd have just as many qualms with the shooter as you do with him.

  • Underrated:

    • Carver

    • Christa

    • Walter

    • Alvin

    • Pete

    Overrated:

    • Bonnie

    • Arvo

    • Nate

  • That doesn't make any sense. That's like someone saying they like Kenny cos he called Carver a "fucker" right in front of his face. Yes you can appreciate their bravery, and more importantly their stupidity, but that isn't any reason to like them.

    But it does give reason to respect him, as you sorta point out. Here he is, tied up as a prisoner within his own incomplete home after losing most of the things he cares about with a guy he knows won't hesitate to hurt him insulting everything he cares about and he just doesn't care anymore. He even continues to try and talk back despite the fact that Kenny's trying to beat him to a pulp.

    Plus, for some people, its a take that moment for Kenny himself and it has parallels to victims of bullying/abuse/racism standing up for themselves, so there is a personal vindication involved for the viewer.

    Arvo wasn't tricked into thinking Natasha was murdered. Kenny was tricked. Arvo wasn't. He just made an assumption and stood by it forever. Plus, this makes me hate him even more now you mention it. If Arvo was really that nice to you if you spared the meds, why on earth would he automatically assume Clem murdered Natasha out of cold blood?

    For the same reasons Kenny got mad at Lee for telling him to stop the train, Kenny yells at Clementine if she kills the walker that bit Sarita, Sarah wouldn't move in the trailer after witnessing Carlos's death, and Kenny attacks Arvo himself after Rebecca had to be put down regardless of the Russians showing up. He's feeling bad, so he's focusing his frustration at someone who feels/knows is responsible somehow. People who lose something they care about tend to lash out when under enough pressure.

    a) You don't accidentally pull a trigger

    b) I'm pretty sure Arvo had is gun up aimed at Clem for a few seconds. This wasn't impulse. He fully meant to do it.

    c) "Response". Response to what? A little girl slowly walking up to him who put down her gun? He wasn't in danger or anything. He wanted to shoot Clem. The fact that he seems scared after he shot her doesn't mean he cared for her. That just shows that he's a coward who was scared of the consequences of his actions (ie. Kenny).'

    a.Yes you can. Michelle does exactly that in the first scene and Nick nearly does the same thing to Clementine depending on what you do after waking up, including Rebecca trying to take the gun from him on one option.
    b. True, but you can pull the trigger unintentionally if you're not careful with your finger placement.
    c.Okay, admittedly this is something that's lost in translation and unavoidable due to things that have to happen because the story demands. What he/she's referring to is the notion that Arvo may have shot Clementine by accident on nicer playthrough's due to a look of shock/horror on his face. Having done the research, I can confirm that this is indeed true, but the problem is the cinematography.
    This most likely refers to the cut where Mike looks back at him after Clementine drops to the ground: if you were mean/threatening towards Arvo and Mike, Arvo will have a glare on his face before looking up at Mike and almost immediately stumbling off in a nervous panic; however, if you were nice/cooperative towards Arvo and Mike, his facial expression is a more wide-eyed one of surprise, as if he didn't consciously intend to actually shoot her. However, because the camera doesn't actually focus on this combined with people just being swerved that he actually shot Clementine, it's a relatively negligent detail that most people just don't notice.

    Fair point. But this makes me respect him in a way, this shouldn't be a reason to like him imo.

    Agreed.

    I understand blood is thicker than water, but we don't have enough footage to say this has a 100% fact.

    An understandable point, but one that can sorta be decided with what we have. Let's take the scene where he gets stuck up by Clementine and Jane as the main example: when Jane questions whether he has any other weapons on him, Arvo promises that he doesn't. When Jane learns about he medicine, Arvo immediately offers to let them take whatever they want as long as they don't take the medicine because it belong's to his sister. When she still shows an interest in taking it despite of knowing this, he starts getting angry and starts insulting her to her face in spite of the fact that she has a gun trained on him. Should Clementine decide to return the bag, Arvo thanks her and gives Jane a concerned look and this later causes him to display reluctance and constant hesitation with being ordered to rob her group. However, Clementine deciding to follow Jane's advice by taking the medicine and later shooting Natasha (for what we know was self-defense, but Arvo never finds out as far as we're told) as she's crawling has Arvo become genuinely livid with them and cause.

    Also, translations of Natasha few lines has her try to pacify Buricko and Vitali as they start getting antsy with Arvo's failure to calm down the Howe's Ski Cabin Group and she can encourage Arvo when he freezes with uncertain due to Clementine determinately suggesting his group lower their guns as a promise that her group will do the safe. Both also try to convince both groups to calm down when the tensions start getting, with Arvo/Natasha getting hysterical with fear/frustration.

    So while we're never given much context as to their relationship, it's safe to assume that Natasha did mean a lot to him given that he basically risked himself over her medicine.

    Jane was in the right in this situation imo. It was a bit cruel, but it was necessary considering a creepy teen with a gun was hanging around the bins...

    For a second there I thought you were talking about Sarah.:lol: Which is another missed opportunity, but that's neither here nor there.
    Yes, Jane was right to be cautious about a stranger hanging around the area but she went too far when encouraged Clementine to outright rob the guy rather than attempt to work out some deal when she had control of the situation, which ended up biting both groups in the ass.

    I'm pretty sure Jane had more concern for AJ than Arvo has for Clem, and from me that's really saying something.

    :lol:

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