It made me feel Clem is a realistic young girl.
I can remember when I had my first period at the age of 11. I cried so much, believing I had some illness. Until my mom comforted me and told me it was normal.
I can believe a frightning moment for the orphan Clementine, very alone in the ZA.
So of course Javi would be the one she would ask about this since he was the only one she really trusted.
This was actually one of the better moments in the episode. I thought it was handled well, considering the man probably didn't expect to have this conversation with her at all.
The moment I saw that scene came on I knew some people might have a problem with it but I didn't expect this many, and some people seem to l… moreet it ruin the whole episode for them.
Honestly, the scene was great. Before playing I got spoiled just a tad so I knew the subject would be brought up and I was scared they wouldn't handle it correctly, but they did perfectly. For those saying "It was redundant, they didn't need to add it." Sorry but news flash guys (yes, guys because I haven't seen a single woman complain about the scene) it happens, it's realistic, it's natural, it's inevitable, and it's something a lot of people wonder about believe it or not. I have been on these forums for years and if I had a dollar for every period thread I have seen...
"Realistic problems"
"The Menstruating Edition"
"Does Clem know about puberty?"
"What do girls do about their periods?"
...and, like, 50 more. I would have a lot of dollars.
So I get … [view original content]
In my opinion that conversation made the overall setting.... human. I mean, it's quite realistic the dialogue between Clem and Javi and it demonstrates that all in all Clem is still a teenagers with lots of doubts about the process of growing up, despite her independence and maturity...
It just means a girl can get pregnant when she starts having periods. The average ages are between 12 and 15 years old when they grow into f… moreemalehood.
Ask your mom lol.
Omg this game has some educational goals lol.
And now it really feels like I raised Clem. From surviving to give her the knowledge of her growing to a woman.
It's the apocalypse. Children must learn fast in order to survive, so if you are an adult, you try to pass on as much knowledge as you can. Stuff about your own body (such as why do girls bleed, how to stitch a wound, how to treat a broken bone, etc) should be the main priority.
My own mom never talked about this before I got my first period at age 11.
And I was frightened and cried the first time.
Just saying...
So no surprise at all Christa never talked about this with a little kid.
Yeah it is amazing how this seems to be a subject that turns guys all weak in the knees. It was handled really well and it is a part of life...as I wrote before...most consider Clem their virtual daughter...well gang...your virtual daughter is growing up. Something to remember if some of you ever happen to have children of the female sort...the talk is a thing.
The moment I saw that scene came on I knew some people might have a problem with it but I didn't expect this many, and some people seem to l… moreet it ruin the whole episode for them.
Honestly, the scene was great. Before playing I got spoiled just a tad so I knew the subject would be brought up and I was scared they wouldn't handle it correctly, but they did perfectly. For those saying "It was redundant, they didn't need to add it." Sorry but news flash guys (yes, guys because I haven't seen a single woman complain about the scene) it happens, it's realistic, it's natural, it's inevitable, and it's something a lot of people wonder about believe it or not. I have been on these forums for years and if I had a dollar for every period thread I have seen...
"Realistic problems"
"The Menstruating Edition"
"Does Clem know about puberty?"
"What do girls do about their periods?"
...and, like, 50 more. I would have a lot of dollars.
So I get … [view original content]
It's the apocalypse. Children must learn fast in order to survive, so if you are an adult, you try to pass on as much knowledge as you can. … moreStuff about your own body (such as why do girls bleed, how to stitch a wound, how to treat a broken bone, etc) should be the main priority.
My own mom never talked about this before I got my first period at age 11.
And I was frightened and cried the first time.
Just saying...
So no surprise at all Christa never talked about this with a little kid.
Yeah it is amazing how this seems to be a subject that turns guys all weak in the knees. It was handled really well and it is a part of lif… moree...as I wrote before...most consider Clem their virtual daughter...well gang...your virtual daughter is growing up. Something to remember if some of you ever happen to have children of the female sort...the talk is a thing.
Christa wasn't Clem's mom, she was a close friend and an experienced survivor. She's miscarried or given birth while having Clem under her care but never bothered to explain how can you get pregnant or how to avoid such sitations? I would expect it from Jane too, she was smart and tried to teach Clementine various things, but overlooked such simple yet important thing as menstruation? That kinda explains why she ended up pregnant.
I would expect it from Jane too, she was smart and tried to teach Clementine various things, but overlooked such simple yet important thing as menstruation? That kinda explains why she ended up pregnant.
Christa wasn't Clem's mom, she was a close friend and an experienced survivor. She's miscarried or given birth while having Clem under her c… moreare but never bothered to explain how can you get pregnant or how to avoid such sitations? I would expect it from Jane too, she was smart and tried to teach Clementine various things, but overlooked such simple yet important thing as menstruation? That kinda explains why she ended up pregnant.
Why shouldn't it be in the game? We've watched and helped her grow into the teenager she currently is turning into. If we want to continue to watch her grow as a character and eventually a woman then we have to be there every step of the way, and that includes the awkward but completely natural occurence of periods. Telltale doesn't shy away from these things and I applaud them for including this in the game.
I found it completely adorable that this hardened young girl who had grown up in an apocalyptic world where she had never experienced 'normal' problems was faced with one of those 'normal' problems finally. Telltale is showing us that even though Clementine is never growing up like she should, there are still some issues and problems that even the world going to shit can't stop Clementine experiencing, like periods and feelings for boys. It's pretty great.
Exactly. Thank you. I don't understand what's the big deal for some people. We are okay with all sorts of fucked up things in this universe but a girl having her period? No we can't have that!!! Many people practically see Clem as their virtual daughter and, you know what, there comes a time in every daughter's life when this happens and they seek guidance about it. Clem is growing up but still in need of parental figures and I think it was nice how Telltale didn't shy away from this.
The moment I saw that scene came on I knew some people might have a problem with it but I didn't expect this many, and some people seem to l… moreet it ruin the whole episode for them.
Honestly, the scene was great. Before playing I got spoiled just a tad so I knew the subject would be brought up and I was scared they wouldn't handle it correctly, but they did perfectly. For those saying "It was redundant, they didn't need to add it." Sorry but news flash guys (yes, guys because I haven't seen a single woman complain about the scene) it happens, it's realistic, it's natural, it's inevitable, and it's something a lot of people wonder about believe it or not. I have been on these forums for years and if I had a dollar for every period thread I have seen...
"Realistic problems"
"The Menstruating Edition"
"Does Clem know about puberty?"
"What do girls do about their periods?"
...and, like, 50 more. I would have a lot of dollars.
So I get … [view original content]
...A discussion between a teenager and a grown man who was stabbed. But no, please, by all means... complain to me about how you're not feeling comfortable so I, a recent stab victim can get you tampons while you idly stand by leering over an OD'd doctor contemplating doing something else stupid and irrational.
If people really think this is effective storytelling, to just bring periods into a scene so haphazardly and without any appropriate lead-up when there's supposed to be a limited time span the characters need to work in order to complete something that is meant to be extremely tense, I can't image how many would react to actually explorative narratives about the changing of a teen body.
I didn't mind it, in fact I actually laughed a bit. It was awkward yeah, but that does happen (as others mentioned). And tbh, what are the chances of having a menstruation during the worst of times? As much as everything else.
It's a touchy subject I suppose, but there's loads of that in Walking Dead.
No it was a nice moment. where you pretty much slow down and take in to consideration how young and naive clem was and now shes being taught to act older than her age-where she finally felt like a kid in that moment unsure about the biology of life.
Eh, honestly I didn't really find it too awkward. If anything, helping explain stuff like that to her would kinda further cement the player'… mores "parent/guardian" role throughout the Seasons (ignoring that Javi is more of a friend in New Frontier - I'm speaking in a more broad sense across all games).
Think of it this way - if you as the player were attached to having a "parent/guardian" role over Clem, would you rather that you be the one to have input in how Clem learns important things like this, or would you rather leave it in the hands of someone else?
Oh please. She had her period, big whoop. It isn't like they were talking about masturbation. Periods are natural, and I was surprised no one in the game had even mentioned them (except for Kate) until that point. They'd be a real pain in the ass in the zombie apocalypse, that's for sure.
What's hilarious is the fact that more men in real life are embarrassed to talk about a natural part of a woman's life than a fictional video game character.
At this point do people actually care about the writing or dialogue anymore? It's gotten to the point where why does anyone care what anyone says or does in the game. Why not talk about clementines vaginal bleeding and potential future pregnancy? Not like you could be using that to develop characters that are relevant rather than an afterthought such as clementine, but that's just me.
Considering clementine is worthless and serves no meaning to the plot and they find time to focus on her period rather than developing relevant characters is a slight problem to me. To your argument of Rebecca's pregnancy that was relevant to the STORY. It had a purpose which was part of the overall plot for the recent episodes. Clementines period serves no purpose and contributes nothing not to mention she's just a waste of space in the series which means this will go nowhere.
She did not know what it was, then Javi explains it partially (and in my version) tells her to speak to Kate is it was embarrassing and something that he did not want to talk about.
But you acknowledged the problem with that early in your post, Javi is more of a friend, one who she's only known for a couple of days, and … moreyet she's talking about something that even she knows is something only women go through and is very personal. I'm not saying men aren't capable of having this conversation, but it would have made more sense for Clem to have it with someone else who does go through it, like Eleanor or even Kate. So honestly, yeah, I would prefer to leave it someone else, someone who has a better understanding of the subject matter.
It wasn't needed and the wrong person was asked. It shouldn't been kate or el. Or ava. Lol. That would've been enjoyable and interesting to see imo. I wonder what ava would've said.
Clem: hey ava
Ava: yeah clem?
Clem: can I ask you question?
Ava: sure clem, what is it?
Clem: what does it mean when you feel uncomfortable pain down there?
Ava: oh...um, ask javi.
Clem: okay... that would've made me laugh. Especially if ava was blushing and being bashful about it. It would've been cute and adorable to me. I would've said aww. It could've went like this -> Clem: hey javi can I ask you a question?
Javi: yeah, go ahead clem.
Clem: i've been feeling uncomfortable pain down there. What does it mean?
Clem: does it mean anything?
Javi's options: 1- Kate! or calls for kate.
2- you should ask kate or el.
3- ...
4- O_O Kate! or calls for Kate.
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It made me feel Clem is a realistic young girl.
I can remember when I had my first period at the age of 11. I cried so much, believing I had some illness. Until my mom comforted me and told me it was normal.
I can believe a frightning moment for the orphan Clementine, very alone in the ZA.
So of course Javi would be the one she would ask about this since he was the only one she really trusted.
You are my hero
It was supposed to make you feel uncomfortable. Sounds like "Good on Telltale."
I don
t even know what do say but its ok for meMy own mom never talked about this before I got my first period at age 11.
And I was frightened and cried the first time.
Just saying...
So no surprise at all Christa never talked about this with a little kid.
Clem had obvious daddy issues.
This why she always wanted to be close to Javi.
Afraid to be alone..
Why else, she is still a young child.
Dang, I forgot to put "/".
In my opinion that conversation made the overall setting.... human. I mean, it's quite realistic the dialogue between Clem and Javi and it demonstrates that all in all Clem is still a teenagers with lots of doubts about the process of growing up, despite her independence and maturity...
''Was it really necessary to have THAT conversation with'' KATE about BONERS and PUBERTY ? jk
but seriously stop making a big deal about this...
You gave me the best answer.
It's the apocalypse. Children must learn fast in order to survive, so if you are an adult, you try to pass on as much knowledge as you can. Stuff about your own body (such as why do girls bleed, how to stitch a wound, how to treat a broken bone, etc) should be the main priority.
I don't think it's as big a deal as people are making it out but I totally agree it was unneccesary.
Yeah it is amazing how this seems to be a subject that turns guys all weak in the knees. It was handled really well and it is a part of life...as I wrote before...most consider Clem their virtual daughter...well gang...your virtual daughter is growing up. Something to remember if some of you ever happen to have children of the female sort...the talk is a thing.
It is something that just probably was never brought up...even mothers have a hard time with the talk.
My yes...my mom said not a word...luckily I had a cousin that was going through it.
I think it's cause we don't want to see something resembling blood on our dicks.
At least that seem like throwaway lines meant for humorous banter.
Christa wasn't Clem's mom, she was a close friend and an experienced survivor. She's miscarried or given birth while having Clem under her care but never bothered to explain how can you get pregnant or how to avoid such sitations? I would expect it from Jane too, she was smart and tried to teach Clementine various things, but overlooked such simple yet important thing as menstruation? That kinda explains why she ended up pregnant.
I was gonna comment on this, but you said it all.
Why shouldn't it be in the game? We've watched and helped her grow into the teenager she currently is turning into. If we want to continue to watch her grow as a character and eventually a woman then we have to be there every step of the way, and that includes the awkward but completely natural occurence of periods. Telltale doesn't shy away from these things and I applaud them for including this in the game.
I found it completely adorable that this hardened young girl who had grown up in an apocalyptic world where she had never experienced 'normal' problems was faced with one of those 'normal' problems finally. Telltale is showing us that even though Clementine is never growing up like she should, there are still some issues and problems that even the world going to shit can't stop Clementine experiencing, like periods and feelings for boys. It's pretty great.
I agree but I think she gets to close to Javi way to quick.
Exactly. Thank you. I don't understand what's the big deal for some people. We are okay with all sorts of fucked up things in this universe but a girl having her period? No we can't have that!!! Many people practically see Clem as their virtual daughter and, you know what, there comes a time in every daughter's life when this happens and they seek guidance about it. Clem is growing up but still in need of parental figures and I think it was nice how Telltale didn't shy away from this.
We had woman giving birth to a child on-screen and nobody bats an eye.
Then we had a girl gettin' her first period and everyone's losin' their minds!
...A discussion between a teenager and a grown man who was stabbed. But no, please, by all means... complain to me about how you're not feeling comfortable so I, a recent stab victim can get you tampons while you idly stand by leering over an OD'd doctor contemplating doing something else stupid and irrational.
If people really think this is effective storytelling, to just bring periods into a scene so haphazardly and without any appropriate lead-up when there's supposed to be a limited time span the characters need to work in order to complete something that is meant to be extremely tense, I can't image how many would react to actually explorative narratives about the changing of a teen body.
This a very good point. XD
I didn't mind it, in fact I actually laughed a bit. It was awkward yeah, but that does happen (as others mentioned). And tbh, what are the chances of having a menstruation during the worst of times? As much as everything else.
It's a touchy subject I suppose, but there's loads of that in Walking Dead.
She was only educated in her 1st grade, that's when the apocalypse started.
Oh come on! XD
No it was a nice moment. where you pretty much slow down and take in to consideration how young and naive clem was and now shes being taught to act older than her age-where she finally felt like a kid in that moment unsure about the biology of life.
Absolutely agree.
Oh please. She had her period, big whoop. It isn't like they were talking about masturbation. Periods are natural, and I was surprised no one in the game had even mentioned them (except for Kate) until that point. They'd be a real pain in the ass in the zombie apocalypse, that's for sure.
What's hilarious is the fact that more men in real life are embarrassed to talk about a natural part of a woman's life than a fictional video game character.
Just sayin'.
At this point do people actually care about the writing or dialogue anymore? It's gotten to the point where why does anyone care what anyone says or does in the game. Why not talk about clementines vaginal bleeding and potential future pregnancy? Not like you could be using that to develop characters that are relevant rather than an afterthought such as clementine, but that's just me.
Considering clementine is worthless and serves no meaning to the plot and they find time to focus on her period rather than developing relevant characters is a slight problem to me. To your argument of Rebecca's pregnancy that was relevant to the STORY. It had a purpose which was part of the overall plot for the recent episodes. Clementines period serves no purpose and contributes nothing not to mention she's just a waste of space in the series which means this will go nowhere.
She did not know what it was, then Javi explains it partially (and in my version) tells her to speak to Kate is it was embarrassing and something that he did not want to talk about.
OUR BABY GIRL'S BECOME A WOMAAAAAN! ;_;
Forget being uncomfortable! I wanna find Clementine more pads! Pain relief! A hot water bottle! Chocolate! I wanna throw her a happy period party!
Clem baby you're growing uuuup!
This is the best day of my life! I gotta tell my family! Everybody's gotta know!
It wasn't needed and the wrong person was asked. It shouldn't been kate or el. Or ava. Lol. That would've been enjoyable and interesting to see imo. I wonder what ava would've said.
Clem: hey ava
Ava: yeah clem?
Clem: can I ask you question?
Ava: sure clem, what is it?
Clem: what does it mean when you feel uncomfortable pain down there?
Ava: oh...um, ask javi.
Clem: okay... that would've made me laugh. Especially if ava was blushing and being bashful about it. It would've been cute and adorable to me. I would've said aww. It could've went like this -> Clem: hey javi can I ask you a question?
Javi: yeah, go ahead clem.
Clem: i've been feeling uncomfortable pain down there. What does it mean?
Clem: does it mean anything?
Javi's options: 1- Kate! or calls for kate.
2- you should ask kate or el.
3- ...
4- O_O Kate! or calls for Kate.
People who overreact to periods are a problem
-Sincerely, one whom doesn't have periods
lol think it was meant to be cringe
Exactly