I find it a little weird people seem to be hating more on Gabe then Conrad, I get it he snitched on you but Conrad was the one who threatened to shoot one of Javi's family members ._.
Redeem himself? How? That bastard caused (or nearly caused) the death of his father by - once again - acting on impulse. He didn't think of the consequences, and he couldn't even speak to his father during his last moments.
Redeem himself? How? That bastard caused (or nearly caused) the death of his father by - once again - acting on impulse. He didn't think of the consequences, and he couldn't even speak to his father during his last moments.
Just like he did in episode 2 after Kate was shot, right? Just like he did after causing Javier to get stabbed. Just like he did in the episode where he mentions Conrad (if you shot him) being killed. Gabe can say sorry all he wants, but that doesn't matter - what's important are his actions.
Just like he did in episode 2 after Kate was shot, right? Just like he did after causing Javier to get stabbed. Just like he did in the epis… moreode where he mentions Conrad (if you shot him) being killed. Gabe can say sorry all he wants, but that doesn't matter - what's important are his actions.
I don't hate him as much as before, but I wouldn't say he's one of my favorite characters this season. His death was sad af but felt so right to me, especially after Clem kisses him before he dies (determinant).
With brutal honesty, out of all of the characters that I have seen in all of the Telltale game that I have played or in all of the video games that I have played. None of them, has pissed me off as much as Gabe.
Gabe, without paying attention, uses alcohol on Kate's wound which did nothing but make it worse.
He points a gun at an unarmed Conrad. Guy just lost his girlfriend and it was unnecessary for Gabe to do that because Conrad didn't even pull a gun on Javi. Javi would have had this conversation under control.
He suggested me to shoot Conrad and in Episode 4, he rats me about it, he doesn't even give a shit that it was for him to be safe. If you chose to spare Conrad, he is calling you a coward for sparing him. No matter how much you Gabe Apologists defend this, it will always be one of the worst writings in video game history.
Through Episode 5, he has been telling Javi how much of an asshole David was through this entire time yet he decides to stay with him despite the fact that his father hit him with a wrench and tried to kill his brother out of jealously, causing his own death.
He caused David to die by taking the wheel which caused them to crash.
He caused his uncle getting stabbed by trying to attack a New Frontier guard who wasn't even coming to the place where Javi and Gabe were hidding.
The relationship between Clem and Gabe is one of the worst written relationships in gaming history. How can Clem (If stayed with Jane) kiss or cry for someone she has only known for 3 days? It's unrealistic as fuck, we didn't see much screentime between them yet they are acting like they have known each other for weeks. Clementine was crying like the way she did with Lee and Kenny (If killed) which is stupid as fuck.
Gabe said he wanted to step up but through this entire season, he did NOTHING useful.
he decides to stay with him despite the fact that his father hit him with a wrench and tried to kill his brother out of jealously, causing his own death.
I mean to be fair both of those things happened after Gabe decided to go with David.
Gabe said he wanted to step up but through this entire season, he did NOTHING useful.
He ran through gunfire just to help Kate, he gets Kate ready to flee when Prescott is attacked, he helps Javi push that dumpster to hold off walkers, he breaks Javi out of quarantine if you stick to his dad's plan, he can distract the guard at the armory, if you shoot Joan he straight up rushed the stage and helps rescue David, he runs through gunfire to help David if you let him, he tries to stop David from killing Javi, and he can step up and keep David from turning because he knows it was his fault.
I get that Gabe can be a rather difficult character, but I feel like you're being unfair. Gabe did much more than you claim and was just as brave as he was annoying.
I still do. Here is why:
* Gabe, without paying attention, uses alcohol on Kate's wound which did nothing but make it worse.
* He poin… morets a gun at an unarmed Conrad. Guy just lost his girlfriend and it was unnecessary for Gabe to do that because Conrad didn't even pull a gun on Javi. Javi would have had this conversation under control.
* He suggested me to shoot Conrad and in Episode 4, he rats me about it, he doesn't even give a shit that it was for him to be safe. If you chose to spare Conrad, he is calling you a coward for sparing him. No matter how much you Gabe Apologists defend this, it will always be one of the worst writings in video game history.
* Through Episode 5, he has been telling Javi how much of an asshole David was through this entire time yet he decides to stay with him despite the fact that his father hit him with a wrench and tried to kill his brother out of jealously, causing his own death.
* He caused David to d… [view original content]
he decides to stay with him despite the fact that his father hit him with a wrench and tried to kill his brother out of jealously, causing h… moreis own death.
I mean to be fair both of those things happened after Gabe decided to go with David.
Gabe said he wanted to step up but through this entire season, he did NOTHING useful.
He ran through gunfire just to help Kate, he gets Kate ready to flee when Prescott is attacked, he helps Javi push that dumpster to hold off walkers, he breaks Javi out of quarantine if you stick to his dad's plan, he can distract the guard at the armory, if you shoot Joan he straight up rushed the stage and helps rescue David, he runs through gunfire to help David if you let him, he tries to stop David from killing Javi, and he can step up and keep David from turning because he knows it was his fault.
I get that Gabe can be a rather difficult character, but I feel like you're being unfair. Gabe did much more than you claim and was just as brave as he was annoying.
I think that was mostly due to shock and things happening very quickly. Gabe obviously wanted to return to Javi, as evidenced by him grabbing the wheel and causing the truck to crash.
Gabe, without paying attention, uses alcohol on Kate's wound which did nothing but make it worse.
That was an easy, simple mistake to make, dude. Honestly, I'm wondering why those two things were next to each other in the first place if Eleanor wasn't planning on using it.
Regardless, this only happened because he decided to stay and help despite understandably being disturbed by the operation.
He points a gun at an unarmed Conrad. Guy just lost his girlfriend and it was unnecessary for Gabe to do that because Conrad didn't even pull a gun on Javi. Javi would have had this conversation under control.
You can go either way on this one, to be honest. Ultimately, he was just defending his uncle after his sister was killed and his stepmom was critically worfed, with the discrepancy to only fire a warning shot to get his point across if he isn't talked down.
He suggested me to shoot Conrad and in Episode 4, he rats me about it, he doesn't even give a shit that it was for him to be safe. If you chose to spare Conrad, he is calling you a coward for sparing him. No matter how much you Gabe Apologists defend this, it will always be one of the worst writings in video game history.
I defend the idea of the scene, not the actual story implementation and gameplay integration. That's what seriously pisses me off about it.
Through Episode 5, he has been telling Javi how much of an asshole David was through this entire time yet he decides to stay with him despite the fact that his father hit him with a wrench and tried to kill his brother out of jealously, causing his own death.
Vengeful already covered this. It's still the dad he's been pining for since the ourbreak.
He caused David to die by taking the wheel which caused them to crash.
That was more on David, really. He's the one who decided to cut and run, beat up Javier, kidnap Gabe, speed off, and refused to listen to reason throughout the entire thing.
He caused his uncle getting stabbed by trying to attack a New Frontier guard who wasn't even coming to the place where Javi and Gabe were hidding.
To be fair, I always got the impression The Specialist was considering searching the closest or at least pondering whether he actually heard someone and decided to move on just as Gabe cracked under the pressure, but whatever.
The relationship between Clem and Gabe is one of the worst written relationships in gaming history. How can Clem (If stayed with Jane) kiss or cry for someone she has only known for 3 days? It's unrealistic as fuck, we didn't see much screentime between them yet they are acting like they have known each other for weeks. Clementine was crying like the way she did with Lee and Kenny (If killed) which is stupid as fuck.
Don't forget the fact that the [new] writers had to doubleback on their previous stance on that topic by doing a blatant retcon and/or lazy handwave.
Gabe said he wanted to step up but through this entire season, he did NOTHING useful.
This is just falsification. No matter what you may think, Gabe's whole deal was doing things to be useful whether it always worked out or not and he more than deserves credit when it's due in that regard.
I still do. Here is why:
* Gabe, without paying attention, uses alcohol on Kate's wound which did nothing but make it worse.
* He poin… morets a gun at an unarmed Conrad. Guy just lost his girlfriend and it was unnecessary for Gabe to do that because Conrad didn't even pull a gun on Javi. Javi would have had this conversation under control.
* He suggested me to shoot Conrad and in Episode 4, he rats me about it, he doesn't even give a shit that it was for him to be safe. If you chose to spare Conrad, he is calling you a coward for sparing him. No matter how much you Gabe Apologists defend this, it will always be one of the worst writings in video game history.
* Through Episode 5, he has been telling Javi how much of an asshole David was through this entire time yet he decides to stay with him despite the fact that his father hit him with a wrench and tried to kill his brother out of jealously, causing his own death.
* He caused David to d… [view original content]
You can go either way on this one, to be honest. Ultimately, he was just defending his uncle after his sister was killed and his stepmom was critically worfed, with the discrepancy to only fire a warning shot to get his point across if he isn't talked down.
Still, Conrad didn't use a gun on Javier so Javier could have ended the conversation by reasoning with it.
Also, if you stay silent or tell Gabe to shoot him, he shoots on Conrad's feet to scare him. Wasting that ammo could have caused walkers to come and attack the group.
Vengeful already covered this. It's still the dad he's been pining for since the ourbreak.
Yet he still accepts the fact that he was about to leave uncle and step-mom behind, who have been with him for 4 years since it happened.
That was more on David, really. He's the one who decided to cut and run, beat up Javier, kidnap Gabe, speed off, and refused to listen to reason throughout the entire thing.
If he didn't want to go with David, then he should have gotten in the garage with Javi, Kate and Clem when the walkers noticed them.
Don't forget the fact that the [new] writers had to doubleback on their previous stance on that topic by doing a blatant retcon and/or lazy handwave.
I didn't forget about this. The new writers never fixed the problems from Season 2 except the choices mattering.
This is just falsification. No matter what you may think, Gabe's whole deal was doing things to be useful whether it always worked out or not and he more than deserves credit when it's due in that regard.
I still can't forgive him for throwing me under the bus for shooting Conrad. I did everything what he wanted and this is how he repays me.
Gabe, without paying attention, uses alcohol on Kate's wound which did nothing but make it worse.
That was an easy, simple mistake t… moreo make, dude. Honestly, I'm wondering why those two things were next to each other in the first place if Eleanor wasn't planning on using it.
Regardless, this only happened because he decided to stay and help despite understandably being disturbed by the operation.
He points a gun at an unarmed Conrad. Guy just lost his girlfriend and it was unnecessary for Gabe to do that because Conrad didn't even pull a gun on Javi. Javi would have had this conversation under control.
You can go either way on this one, to be honest. Ultimately, he was just defending his uncle after his sister was killed and his stepmom was critically worfed, with the discrepancy to only fire a warning shot to get his point across if he isn't talked down.
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Eh i wouldn't go that far. Sure he is one of the more in depth characters in A New Frontier but that isn't really saying much. Gabe never evolves past the "rebellious teenager desperate to prove himself to his dad" phase. I guess changing his role model to Javi in Episode 5 could be considered some character development but other than that I couldn't really tell you much about his overall character arc.
It's a shame because i was really expecting to enjoy his character when i first played Ties That Bind parts 1 and 2.
Well, there is a fair bit of little subtleties/nuance to his otherwise in-your-face character. The problem is the writers of the last two episodes put more focus on him doing things to create [needless] conflict and divisiveness than actually delving into his mindset more--which can be said for a large number of characters, actually.
Otherwise, I agree. Someone once compared him to Kenny, which is actually a pretty decent observation in a few ways.
Gabe is a very complex character
Eh i wouldn't go that far. Sure he is one of the more in depth characters in A New Frontier but tha… moret isn't really saying much. Gabe never evolves past the "rebellious teenager desperate to prove himself to his dad" phase. I guess changing his role model to Javi in Episode 5 could be considered some character development but other than that I couldn't really tell you much about his overall character arc.
It's a shame because i was really expecting to enjoy his character when i first played Ties That Bind parts 1 and 2.
Also, if you stay silent or tell Gabe to shoot him, he shoots on Conrad's feet to scare him. Wasting that ammo could have caused walkers to come and attack the group.
I suppose. Neither of were really thinking in that scene, tbh.
Yet he still accepts the fact that he was about to leave uncle and step-mom behind, who have been with him for 4 years since it happened.
His plan was to convince David not to just run away from them and go back so they can be a family again. Obviously, it didn't work, but the kid was just improvising on the belief he could get through to his dad.
If he didn't want to go with David, then he should have gotten in the garage with Javi, Kate and Clem when the walkers noticed them.
Again, Vengeful answered this.
The new writers never fixed the problems from Season 2 except the choices mattering.
Well that and the needlessly bleak tone and especially the meanspiritedness in Season 2.5. As brief and sparse as they were thanks to the even shorter episodes, I really did appreciate how there felt like there was more camaraderie amongst the group this time around--not having Kenny and Jane all the time might have something to do with that.
I still can't forgive him for throwing me under the bus for shooting Conrad. I did everything what he wanted and this is how he repays me.
You can go either way on this one, to be honest. Ultimately, he was just defending his uncle after his sister was killed and his stepmom was… more critically worfed, with the discrepancy to only fire a warning shot to get his point across if he isn't talked down.
Still, Conrad didn't use a gun on Javier so Javier could have ended the conversation by reasoning with it.
Also, if you stay silent or tell Gabe to shoot him, he shoots on Conrad's feet to scare him. Wasting that ammo could have caused walkers to come and attack the group.
Vengeful already covered this. It's still the dad he's been pining for since the ourbreak.
Yet he still accepts the fact that he was about to leave uncle and step-mom behind, who have been with him for 4 years since it happened.
That was more on David, really. He's the one who decided to cut and run, beat up Javier, kidnap Gabe, speed off, and refused to listen to reason throughout the entire… [view original content]
I don't like how he acts solely because it's 4 YEARS into the apocalypse. You should've adapted to the world by then and accept it for what it is.
I understand if he acted like this if it begun like a few months ago, in fact I'm sure a lot of people would've acted like he does. But c'mon, it's 4 years, you should know not to throw a tantrum if things don't go your way.
Remember that said tantrums generally involved wanting to be more active in protecting the group, particularly since he (and presumably Marinana) were trained.
I don't like how he acts solely because it's 4 YEARS into the apocalypse. You should've adapted to the world by then and accept it for what … moreit is.
I understand if he acted like this if it begun like a few months ago, in fact I'm sure a lot of people would've acted like he does. But c'mon, it's 4 years, you should know not to throw a tantrum if things don't go your way.
If he shows up in season 4 i'll immediately quit the game and replay ANF to make sure he dies in the end. Even if i have to make choices that would contradict my clementine's characterization. I don't want that little shit ruining clem's last appearance by showing his ugly face.
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Yep.
Yeah and Gabe was ratting me out for doing what he asked me to.
Yeah. Unfortunately, he seems like another albiet minor case of a character with two different directions.
I got the Jane ending they only hugged
Redeem himself? How? That bastard caused (or nearly caused) the death of his father by - once again - acting on impulse. He didn't think of the consequences, and he couldn't even speak to his father during his last moments.
Yes.
Well he did seem to get a lot smarter and a little tougher and he did apologize to Javi and said he will get better
Just like he did in episode 2 after Kate was shot, right? Just like he did after causing Javier to get stabbed. Just like he did in the episode where he mentions Conrad (if you shot him) being killed. Gabe can say sorry all he wants, but that doesn't matter - what's important are his actions.
I still hate him and think that he is an absolute piece of sh*t nobody likes
Stop looking at the past and look at the future, I'm saying he got a little better in episode 5 and he still has a chance to get better in Season 4
Why? He's like what anyone would be in an apocalypse, that's what I liked about Ben and Sarah, why not Gabe?
"Felt so right" Stfu
With brutal honesty, out of all of the characters that I have seen in all of the Telltale game that I have played or in all of the video games that I have played. None of them, has pissed me off as much as Gabe.
I still do. Here is why:
I mean to be fair both of those things happened after Gabe decided to go with David.
He ran through gunfire just to help Kate, he gets Kate ready to flee when Prescott is attacked, he helps Javi push that dumpster to hold off walkers, he breaks Javi out of quarantine if you stick to his dad's plan, he can distract the guard at the armory, if you shoot Joan he straight up rushed the stage and helps rescue David, he runs through gunfire to help David if you let him, he tries to stop David from killing Javi, and he can step up and keep David from turning because he knows it was his fault.
I get that Gabe can be a rather difficult character, but I feel like you're being unfair. Gabe did much more than you claim and was just as brave as he was annoying.
He still stayed with him instead of trying to go through the garage.
I think that was mostly due to shock and things happening very quickly. Gabe obviously wanted to return to Javi, as evidenced by him grabbing the wheel and causing the truck to crash.
That was an easy, simple mistake to make, dude. Honestly, I'm wondering why those two things were next to each other in the first place if Eleanor wasn't planning on using it.
Regardless, this only happened because he decided to stay and help despite understandably being disturbed by the operation.
You can go either way on this one, to be honest. Ultimately, he was just defending his uncle after his sister was killed and his stepmom was critically worfed, with the discrepancy to only fire a warning shot to get his point across if he isn't talked down.
I defend the idea of the scene, not the actual story implementation and gameplay integration. That's what seriously pisses me off about it.
Vengeful already covered this. It's still the dad he's been pining for since the ourbreak.
That was more on David, really. He's the one who decided to cut and run, beat up Javier, kidnap Gabe, speed off, and refused to listen to reason throughout the entire thing.
To be fair, I always got the impression The Specialist was considering searching the closest or at least pondering whether he actually heard someone and decided to move on just as Gabe cracked under the pressure, but whatever.
Don't forget the fact that the [new] writers had to doubleback on their previous stance on that topic by doing a blatant retcon and/or lazy handwave.
This is just falsification. No matter what you may think, Gabe's whole deal was doing things to be useful whether it always worked out or not and he more than deserves credit when it's due in that regard.
Still, Conrad didn't use a gun on Javier so Javier could have ended the conversation by reasoning with it.
Also, if you stay silent or tell Gabe to shoot him, he shoots on Conrad's feet to scare him. Wasting that ammo could have caused walkers to come and attack the group.
Yet he still accepts the fact that he was about to leave uncle and step-mom behind, who have been with him for 4 years since it happened.
If he didn't want to go with David, then he should have gotten in the garage with Javi, Kate and Clem when the walkers noticed them.
I didn't forget about this. The new writers never fixed the problems from Season 2 except the choices mattering.
I still can't forgive him for throwing me under the bus for shooting Conrad. I did everything what he wanted and this is how he repays me.
I don't exactly hate him, but i do hate that "Gabentine"
"Nobody"? Even though there are plenty of people who have stated on this thread that they do like him?
Don't mind him. Many people tend to speak in generalized absolutes is all.
Eh i wouldn't go that far. Sure he is one of the more in depth characters in A New Frontier but that isn't really saying much. Gabe never evolves past the "rebellious teenager desperate to prove himself to his dad" phase. I guess changing his role model to Javi in Episode 5 could be considered some character development but other than that I couldn't really tell you much about his overall character arc.
It's a shame because i was really expecting to enjoy his character when i first played Ties That Bind parts 1 and 2.
No one would behave like Sarah in an apocalypse unless they have a mental disability or are under 9 years old
They would if they were constantly babied while suffering from PTSD.
Well, there is a fair bit of little subtleties/nuance to his otherwise in-your-face character. The problem is the writers of the last two episodes put more focus on him doing things to create [needless] conflict and divisiveness than actually delving into his mindset more--which can be said for a large number of characters, actually.
Otherwise, I agree. Someone once compared him to Kenny, which is actually a pretty decent observation in a few ways.
Quite a specific scenario that; Hardly falls under the category of "anyone".
So does your conditions.
Either way, the point was that Sarah's condition was a somewhat unusual/uncommon one.
I will always hate Gabe
Yeah but i'm not the one who claimed "anyone" would behave like Sarah in a ZA. That was @TWDGNer
Huh.
I think he meant how some people wouldn't be able to immediately adapt to the environment and would be prone to nervousness, but okay then.
Actually, I think one of the many complaints I saw floating around was how Gabe "doesn't" act like there's an apocalypse.
I hate Gabe a lot but he is a saint compared to Bonnie.
I suppose. Neither of were really thinking in that scene, tbh.
His plan was to convince David not to just run away from them and go back so they can be a family again. Obviously, it didn't work, but the kid was just improvising on the belief he could get through to his dad.
Again, Vengeful answered this.
Well that and the needlessly bleak tone and especially the meanspiritedness in Season 2.5. As brief and sparse as they were thanks to the even shorter episodes, I really did appreciate how there felt like there was more camaraderie amongst the group this time around--not having Kenny and Jane all the time might have something to do with that.
Yeah, that's definitely flagrant and/or dumb programming/storytelling there.
A lot of people would behave like Sarah, what are you talking about?
I don't like how he acts solely because it's 4 YEARS into the apocalypse. You should've adapted to the world by then and accept it for what it is.
I understand if he acted like this if it begun like a few months ago, in fact I'm sure a lot of people would've acted like he does. But c'mon, it's 4 years, you should know not to throw a tantrum if things don't go your way.
Remember that said tantrums generally involved wanting to be more active in protecting the group, particularly since he (and presumably Marinana) were trained.
Can I just say that I don't get that? What's the deal with Bonnie?
If he shows up in season 4 i'll immediately quit the game and replay ANF to make sure he dies in the end. Even if i have to make choices that would contradict my clementine's characterization. I don't want that little shit ruining clem's last appearance by showing his ugly face.