There are two possibilities (other than Carol being bad at math). One, like you said, she counts the death of Sam, Jesse, and Ron as part of her kill count, or two (as she put a question mark next to the three), she feels like she's missing a few and decided to put 18 as that seems like a better estimate.
That makes 15, though. Four for the first three, four Termites, and seven Wolves. They may have made a mistake with that, since the way she … moreorganized it seems to imply that there were 4 Candlewomen that died, not just Mary. Maybe if she counted Sam and his family, but even if she assumed her harsh words led to that disaster of a zombie walk, I imagine she'd have put them down on the list. Then again, she was also indirectly responsible for Pete and he's not on the list, so...
Maybe Carol's just bad at math.
Yeah, I was thinking she might have estimated, although that's a little unclear and putting the four next to Mary's place still feels off in comparison with the rest of the list. But she did say in the last episode that she only thinks she might have killed 18, so she definitely isn't sure on the exact number.
There are two possibilities (other than Carol being bad at math). One, like you said, she counts the death of Sam, Jesse, and Ron as part of… more her kill count, or two (as she put a question mark next to the three), she feels like she's missing a few and decided to put 18 as that seems like a better estimate.
Wow, for someone with the name "wdfan", which I can only assume means you're a fan of the walking dead, you sure do like to shit on the walking dead a lot. Pretty ironic.
Also, WHAT THE FUCK?! Are you seriously complaining about realism in The Walking Dead?! A show where a worldwide zombie pandemic has wiped out most of humanity when realistically a zombie outbreak would be over in 2 days?! A show where people with no business being alive are still alive?! What the fuck even?!
Man this shit is now James Bond level of stupidity and villain incompetence. First ep i've decided to watch since Rick stupidly brought a bu… morench of walkers and got that family killed. Why the fuck are these guys TALKING to Carol and Maggie and not killing them, therefore giving them a chance to escape? Fuck this... this shit isn't acceptable. Someone big better be dying soon.
Made the name because of the games, before I really got into the show.
That's a terrible excuse. The show being a about a zombie outbreak where people are alive should not be an excuse to ignore realism in other aspects of the show, especially so blatently. I've seen a lot of other people on other sites, message boards that are also fed up of how over powered Rick's crew are and how a lot of new characters are dying and the are surviving.
Even before this episode that was a problem, then they have Maggie and Carol escape from, outsmart and murder an entire group? Fuck that... damn right i'm gonna complain.
Wow, for someone with the name "wdfan", which I can only assume means you're a fan of the walking dead, you sure do like to shit on the walk… moreing dead a lot. Pretty ironic.
Also, WHAT THE FUCK?! Are you seriously complaining about realism in The Walking Dead?! A show where a worldwide zombie pandemic has wiped out most of humanity when realistically a zombie outbreak would be over in 2 days?! A show where people with no business being alive are still alive?! What the fuck even?!
He is killing someone from the main cast. Thats unavoidable.
As for Rick arm, Kirkman keeps going on about how he feels it was a mistake everytime he can do i doubt it.
But there's just no point in complaining about it. It's nothing, it's images on a screen, it means absolutely nothing. So why complain about realism?
And I know before this episode realism was a problem, but I didn't have a problem with it because I use Science fiction to get away from realism and how fucking shit my life and personality is.
Also, if you made the name because of the games and you love them so much, PLEASE explain how the games are better than the show or at least why you like them better if you do, because the games MUCH worse than the show with realism.
Made the name because of the games, before I really got into the show.
That's a terrible excuse. The show being a about a zombie outbreak… more where people are alive should not be an excuse to ignore realism in other aspects of the show, especially so blatently. I've seen a lot of other people on other sites, message boards that are also fed up of how over powered Rick's crew are and how a lot of new characters are dying and the are surviving.
Even before this episode that was a problem, then they have Maggie and Carol escape from, outsmart and murder an entire group? Fuck that... damn right i'm gonna complain.
I never did like that part of the comic. It seemed very self-indulgent to me, like Kirkman was just doing it because he thought it was funny. If AMC can do what they did with Breaking Bad where theu sprinkled a few throughout the season, that would be just as effective as having Negan swear like a teenage boy who just discovered swearing.
Well actually Kirkman based it of his friend speech pattern. Apperently most people are against swearing so when someone uses it constantly people actually get freaked out.
Kirkman though it really highlighted Negan having no respect for anyone.
I never did like that part of the comic. It seemed very self-indulgent to me, like Kirkman was just doing it because he thought it was funny… more. If AMC can do what they did with Breaking Bad where theu sprinkled a few throughout the season, that would be just as effective as having Negan swear like a teenage boy who just discovered swearing.
yeah i though this was ok. but i dont think i was completely necessary to have. im not saying it was bad, i love the acting in this episode from everyone, i just think that we could still gotten the development even if they had not split it in just the episode for just two characters.
What'd I tell you all about Angela Kang, huh? She... wait... that was a very good episode. Shit. Goes to show how even a seeming lack of mov… moreement or meaty material in the story doesn't hinder good writing, the polar opposite of "Still".
Oh, there were some goofy moments here and there, to be sure, but it had a lot of really good character moments for Carol and Maggie and the new characters
(even though, or perhaps especially because they only lasted an episode), characterized and added to the Saviors as a whole a little more, and was quite intense throughout. That such a brutal episode was carried entirely by female characters was pretty cool too. And there were some really cool subtle elements like Carol leaving tracks behind when all we could see was the ground, and the parallel of Paula no longer counting when she hit double digits, unlike Carol. I kinda wish Molls had lived a bit longer. She was like the female Merle, and was the mos… [view original content]
Its very offputting for sure, but I still maintain that Kirkman probably finds it highly amusing. I just found it annoying and Im not a prude about swearing as a rule. Im sure they can write it and Morgan and perform it with enough menace and intensity to make up for not having twenty fbombs in a row.
Well actually Kirkman based it of his friend speech pattern. Apperently most people are against swearing so when someone uses it constantly people actually get freaked out.
Kirkman though it really highlighted Negan having no respect for anyone.
Well Morgan said that he was, going to "push AMC to the wall to make sure he could" since "i swear and Negan swears. He is one of those characters i really want to get as exact as possible."
Infact thanks to Morgan AMC had to shoot the 'finale scene' twice. One versión censored, the other not so in any case the dvd would have the uncensored versión even if the aired version did not.
But still Jeffrey Deán is a fantastic actor. I am 100% he'll make Negan the threat he is with or without his constant swearing.
Its very offputting for sure, but I still maintain that Kirkman probably finds it highly amusing. I just found it annoying and Im not a prud… moree about swearing as a rule. Im sure they can write it and Morgan and perform it with enough menace and intensity to make up for not having twenty fbombs in a row.
the show has become pointless, move from one place to the next kill some dead or some of them die, there is no cure as far as the story goes, so what the point
Z nation is far better, at lease there is some hope to stay alive, but walking dead why even try, your going to die anyhow.
this is why Walking dead has become BORING and I stop watching it there is no point to it and the reason the rating is dropping.
bet you season 6 will be the last.........IT HAS NO POINT TO IT NO ONE WILL LIVE IN THE END.... THEY ALL TURN INTO WALKING DEAD SO WHATS THE POINT OF THE SHOW.
good character development, WHAT THE POINT, THEY ALL DIE IF THERE IS NO CURE....DA DA DA DA .
the show has become pointless, move from one place to the next kill some dead or some of them die, there is no cure as far as the story goes… more, so what the point
Z nation is far better, at lease there is some hope to stay alive, but walking dead why even try, your going to die anyhow.
this is why Walking dead has become BORING and I stop watching it there is no point to it and the reason the rating is dropping.
bet you season 6 will be the last.........IT HAS NO POINT TO IT NO ONE WILL LIVE IN THE END.... THEY ALL TURN INTO WALKING DEAD SO WHATS THE POINT OF THE SHOW.
good character development, WHAT THE POINT, THEY ALL DIE IF THERE IS NO CURE....DA DA DA DA .
.
the show has become pointless, move from one place to the next kill some dead or some of them die, there is no cure as far as the story goes… more, so what the point
Z nation is far better, at lease there is some hope to stay alive, but walking dead why even try, your going to die anyhow.
this is why Walking dead has become BORING and I stop watching it there is no point to it and the reason the rating is dropping.
bet you season 6 will be the last.........IT HAS NO POINT TO IT NO ONE WILL LIVE IN THE END.... THEY ALL TURN INTO WALKING DEAD SO WHATS THE POINT OF THE SHOW.
good character development, WHAT THE POINT, THEY ALL DIE IF THERE IS NO CURE....DA DA DA DA .
.
@KCohere They are actually doing that. They shoot the scenes twice, so they show the uncensored version once and they pay the fines, but for replays and marathons, they show the censored version. A very creative approach, in my opinion.
Well Morgan said that he was, going to "push AMC to the wall to make sure he could" since "i swear and Negan swears. He is one of those char… moreacters i really want to get as exact as possible."
Infact thanks to Morgan AMC had to shoot the 'finale scene' twice. One versión censored, the other not so in any case the dvd would have the uncensored versión even if the aired version did not.
But still Jeffrey Deán is a fantastic actor. I am 100% he'll make Negan the threat he is with or without his constant swearing.
Even though you're a troll, I'm going to ask, what's the point of watching any TV show if you know that the characters will die of old age, and what's the point of living real life if you are going to die some day anyway?
the show has become pointless, move from one place to the next kill some dead or some of them die, there is no cure as far as the story goes… more, so what the point
Z nation is far better, at lease there is some hope to stay alive, but walking dead why even try, your going to die anyhow.
this is why Walking dead has become BORING and I stop watching it there is no point to it and the reason the rating is dropping.
bet you season 6 will be the last.........IT HAS NO POINT TO IT NO ONE WILL LIVE IN THE END.... THEY ALL TURN INTO WALKING DEAD SO WHATS THE POINT OF THE SHOW.
good character development, WHAT THE POINT, THEY ALL DIE IF THERE IS NO CURE....DA DA DA DA .
.
@KCohere They are actually doing that. They shoot the scenes twice, so they show the uncensored version once and they pay the fines, but for replays and marathons, they show the censored version. A very creative approach, in my opinion.
So, what I noticed is that the woman that Carol shot kicked Maggie in the belly before she attacked with the knife. Obviously, she only slashed the shirt and not Maggie's stomach, but what if the kick was already enough? Judith survived the prison in the show even though she is long gone in the comics. Maybe the writers decided that there can only be one baby? I hope not, but it doesn't seem impossible.
So, what I noticed is that the woman that Carol shot kicked Maggie in the belly before she attacked with the knife. Obviously, she only slas… morehed the shirt and not Maggie's stomach, but what if the kick was already enough? Judith survived the prison in the show even though she is long gone in the comics. Maybe the writers decided that there can only be one baby? I hope not, but it doesn't seem impossible.
I think she went for the baby subconciously because she was jealous, or maybe she attacked the stomach without thinking because it's a vulnerable point. She looked pretty shocked right before Carol shot her. Still, at first I thought she actually did cut Maggie, and my reaction was about the same as yours.
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There are two possibilities (other than Carol being bad at math). One, like you said, she counts the death of Sam, Jesse, and Ron as part of her kill count, or two (as she put a question mark next to the three), she feels like she's missing a few and decided to put 18 as that seems like a better estimate.
Yeah, I was thinking she might have estimated, although that's a little unclear and putting the four next to Mary's place still feels off in comparison with the rest of the list. But she did say in the last episode that she only thinks she might have killed 18, so she definitely isn't sure on the exact number.
Wow, for someone with the name "wdfan", which I can only assume means you're a fan of the walking dead, you sure do like to shit on the walking dead a lot. Pretty ironic.
Also, WHAT THE FUCK?! Are you seriously complaining about realism in The Walking Dead?! A show where a worldwide zombie pandemic has wiped out most of humanity when realistically a zombie outbreak would be over in 2 days?! A show where people with no business being alive are still alive?! What the fuck even?!
Made the name because of the games, before I really got into the show.
That's a terrible excuse. The show being a about a zombie outbreak where people are alive should not be an excuse to ignore realism in other aspects of the show, especially so blatently. I've seen a lot of other people on other sites, message boards that are also fed up of how over powered Rick's crew are and how a lot of new characters are dying and the are surviving.
Even before this episode that was a problem, then they have Maggie and Carol escape from, outsmart and murder an entire group? Fuck that... damn right i'm gonna complain.
Papa Winchester!
Seems like he's pretty comfortable with Negan's vocabulary, lol.
Will Amc be though? That is the true question.
He is killing someone from the main cast. Thats unavoidable.
As for Rick arm, Kirkman keeps going on about how he feels it was a mistake everytime he can do i doubt it.
They killed most of them in sleep. The others had to wake up into a gun battle they were not ready for, in the middle of the night.
I think its fair to assume that it would be hard for them to kill anyone.
Yeah I know Kirkman say's that alot, but I feel like if they will ever do it, they should do it with Negan.
But there's just no point in complaining about it. It's nothing, it's images on a screen, it means absolutely nothing. So why complain about realism?
And I know before this episode realism was a problem, but I didn't have a problem with it because I use Science fiction to get away from realism and how fucking shit my life and personality is.
Also, if you made the name because of the games and you love them so much, PLEASE explain how the games are better than the show or at least why you like them better if you do, because the games MUCH worse than the show with realism.
I never did like that part of the comic. It seemed very self-indulgent to me, like Kirkman was just doing it because he thought it was funny. If AMC can do what they did with Breaking Bad where theu sprinkled a few throughout the season, that would be just as effective as having Negan swear like a teenage boy who just discovered swearing.
That was pretty messed up. Being slowly burned to death is awful.
Well actually Kirkman based it of his friend speech pattern. Apperently most people are against swearing so when someone uses it constantly people actually get freaked out.
Kirkman though it really highlighted Negan having no respect for anyone.
youre the one that doesnt like Kang??? lol
yeah i though this was ok. but i dont think i was completely necessary to have. im not saying it was bad, i love the acting in this episode from everyone, i just think that we could still gotten the development even if they had not split it in just the episode for just two characters.
Good god Lee! What happened to your beard?
Yeah, it is. But then again, they ARE Negan's men. Any Savior they come across needs to die.
Yeah but you know theres concequences now...............
Its very offputting for sure, but I still maintain that Kirkman probably finds it highly amusing. I just found it annoying and Im not a prude about swearing as a rule. Im sure they can write it and Morgan and perform it with enough menace and intensity to make up for not having twenty fbombs in a row.
Well Morgan said that he was, going to "push AMC to the wall to make sure he could" since "i swear and Negan swears. He is one of those characters i really want to get as exact as possible."
Infact thanks to Morgan AMC had to shoot the 'finale scene' twice. One versión censored, the other not so in any case the dvd would have the uncensored versión even if the aired version did not.
But still Jeffrey Deán is a fantastic actor. I am 100% he'll make Negan the threat he is with or without his constant swearing.
the show has become pointless, move from one place to the next kill some dead or some of them die, there is no cure as far as the story goes, so what the point
Z nation is far better, at lease there is some hope to stay alive, but walking dead why even try, your going to die anyhow.
this is why Walking dead has become BORING and I stop watching it there is no point to it and the reason the rating is dropping.
bet you season 6 will be the last.........IT HAS NO POINT TO IT NO ONE WILL LIVE IN THE END.... THEY ALL TURN INTO WALKING DEAD SO WHATS THE POINT OF THE SHOW.
good character development, WHAT THE POINT, THEY ALL DIE IF THERE IS NO CURE....DA DA DA DA .
.
If it's so boring then why are you here posting comments on it's forum then?
By the way, Season 7 has been confirmed and is probably being written right now, but if that bet's still on...
Stuff and things, friend. Stuff and things.
Obvious troll is obvious.
@KCohere They are actually doing that. They shoot the scenes twice, so they show the uncensored version once and they pay the fines, but for replays and marathons, they show the censored version. A very creative approach, in my opinion.
Even though you're a troll, I'm going to ask, what's the point of watching any TV show if you know that the characters will die of old age, and what's the point of living real life if you are going to die some day anyway?
Yeah, I heard about that. I just wonder what version they are going to use for the ITunes episode, which is how I watch it.
Just finished watching episode 13. It was cool, I guess.
I was so mad when that cunt cut Maggie's shirt. I was like "Bitch, you dead!" when she cut Maggie's shirt, cuz I thought she killed the baby.
So, what I noticed is that the woman that Carol shot kicked Maggie in the belly before she attacked with the knife. Obviously, she only slashed the shirt and not Maggie's stomach, but what if the kick was already enough? Judith survived the prison in the show even though she is long gone in the comics. Maybe the writers decided that there can only be one baby? I hope not, but it doesn't seem impossible.
By the time Maggie has her baby, Judith will be a toddler. Plus Jesus said they are having babies at Hilltop. I Think the show can handle it.
Theyd just killed everyone she was with and were going to kill her. I cant find it that terrible she attacked maggie
Negan? More like.... Knee Gun.
I think she went for the baby subconciously because she was jealous, or maybe she attacked the stomach without thinking because it's a vulnerable point. She looked pretty shocked right before Carol shot her. Still, at first I thought she actually did cut Maggie, and my reaction was about the same as yours.