Agreed. Shit, it raises my hackles when they use the only likeable character as a gadget to bum-rush conflict between an effortlessly facile and cliche dadhero vs villain tantrum. It really would've been cool to see her get involved more.
I think a lot of people just find him annoying the way he just is. Not a huge fan of his voice either. I wish Mariana had lived instead of him though or at least it being a determinant choice
Definitely. It's a shame they didn't give her enough screentime. She was definitely more likeable than Gabe. Then again, no character this season for me is likeable in the sense I don't feel attached to anyone like i did from the characters in Season 1
Agreed. Shit, it raises my hackles when they use the only likeable character as a gadget to bum-rush conflict between an effortlessly facile and cliche dadhero vs villain tantrum. It really would've been cool to see her get involved more.
If you don't kill Conrad, Gabe will be just a normal teenager trying to be useful.
No, he calls you a coward for sparing him and I d… moreon't care if it happens in episode 2 only.
Yeah, it's your fault.
I saved his stupid fucking life from a maniac who pointed a gun on him for no reason and this is how he repays me, he was like "Fuck you for saving my life". ANYONE who denies the things I have done for them deserve to die.
They could've used Gabe instead of Mariana as well, though. I mean by the time Mariana died, Gabe didn't have much more screen time than Mariana, and both were, for me, on the same level character development-wise. I liked them both equally (Mariana a little more, since she seemed a tad bit smarter).
I think a lot of people just find him annoying the way he just is. Not a huge fan of his voice either. I wish Mariana had lived instead of him though or at least it being a determinant choice
Yes, they killed the most likeable character of these season and just spared the ones NO ONE gives a shit about. The only ones that I like is David, Clementine and Conrad.
I think a lot of people just find him annoying the way he just is. Not a huge fan of his voice either. I wish Mariana had lived instead of him though or at least it being a determinant choice
I am not part of any movement but I do HATE FUCKING GABE!! I just wanna beat the shit out of his fucking punchable face with my mits, yes no baseball bat or other pussy weapon shit, just my bear fucking hands.
Why?
Well because he's some scrawny little douchebag teen who always wears that stupid fucking orange bean hat like a c*nt, so he'd better stay the fuck away from my Clem because my Lee brought her up to not fall for dickheads like Gabe.
I am not part of any movement but I do HATE FUCKING GABE!! I just wanna beat the shit out of his fucking punchable face with my mits, yes no… more baseball bat or other pussy weapon shit, just my bear fucking hands.
Why?
Well because he's some scrawny little douchebag teen who always wears that stupid fucking orange bean hat like a c*nt, so he'd better stay the fuck away from my Clem because my Lee brought her up to not fall for dickheads like Gabe.
Yes, they killed the most likeable character of these season and just spared the ones NO ONE gives a shit about. The only ones that I like is David, Clementine and Conrad.
Well, I've dealt long enough with delusional people, especially over the internet. That's why I like to block them in order to usually avoid happenings like this.
Nope. Typical Kenny-hater.
He always apologized for what he did. You just ignore it.
And the stuff that happened to Prescott and especially Francine had nothing to do with Javi, yet Conrad blames him and takes one child hostage, trying to take another one hostage as well. If you don't see the major difference, then it is your damn fault.
Except it isn't...consider in Conrad's mind though it would have been. Javi and his family show up and leads to a fight with NF...which end… mores with his town being destroyed and woman being killed...Conrad was justified in his mind....Just like Kenny thought he was in his...the only difference is that Conrad apologized eventually and admitted that it was his grief and anger that got the best of him....Same type of situations...yet only Conrad was man enough to admit his mistake.
I am not part of any movement but I do HATE FUCKING GABE!! I just wanna beat the shit out of his fucking punchable face with my mits, yes no… more baseball bat or other pussy weapon shit, just my bear fucking hands.
Why?
Well because he's some scrawny little douchebag teen who always wears that stupid fucking orange bean hat like a c*nt, so he'd better stay the fuck away from my Clem because my Lee brought her up to not fall for dickheads like Gabe.
You have no rights to control my feelings on him.... I've hated his edgy charecter the first min I saw him dude his charecter is simply unrealistic after all this time of the apocalypse
I am not part of any movement but I do HATE FUCKING GABE!! I just wanna beat the shit out of his fucking punchable face with my mits, yes no… more baseball bat or other pussy weapon shit, just my bear fucking hands.
Why?
Well because he's some scrawny little douchebag teen who always wears that stupid fucking orange bean hat like a c*nt, so he'd better stay the fuck away from my Clem because my Lee brought her up to not fall for dickheads like Gabe.
Yes it did...it was because they were after Javi that Prescott was attacked...or did you not play the fucking game? And no Kenny almost never apologizes...because an apology does not start with I am sorry..but....that is just a nice way of saying fuck you I am right.
But I can see you are not going to budge from your stance...and I am not....so we just agree to disagree.
Nope. Typical Kenny-hater.
He always apologized for what he did. You just ignore it.
And the stuff that happened to Prescott and especia… morelly Francine had nothing to do with Javi, yet Conrad blames him and takes one child hostage, trying to take another one hostage as well. If you don't see the major difference, then it is your damn fault.
One of the worst things she did in S3, IMO: pointed a loaded gun at some guy's head just to prove a point, which ended up with him getting killed. She then asks you to lie and cover up for her mistake right after, resulting in Javier going to jail, while his family is in iminent danger.
Gabe is a stubborn, whiny piece of shit. Lets find out why
1-When you didnt agree to make him come with you, he will rat you out about Conrad because you didnt bring his punk ass in a rescue mission. Thats why Tripp will hate you and dissappointed at you.
2- He thinks that he is capable enough to steal a truck,hotwire it and drive it(LMAO). He thinks that he can beat an armed guard (in the process Javi got stabbed and maybe almost died if he didnt manage to knock the guard out).
3- When Eleanor helped Kate when she got shot, he will pour whole bottle of alcohol to directly Kate's wound and make her pass out. He could have killed her. He doenst even know the difference between alcohol and water OMG.
4-All he cares about his dad, he thinks that anyone can die for saving him(I cant even handle writing this anymore).
You think Clem is hypocrat ? Lets see why you are wrong:
1-She will back you up when your own nephew sold you out even you know her about 1-2 days.
2-She is not screwing up things like that piece of shit. She is capable of using a gun,defend herself and helping to group. Not like that piece of shit. Did you see one time Gabe actually helped the whole group ?
3-She is not blaming you for accepting the deal. She thinks that sticking to his brother is not a good option.(Which is I actually started to agree.) She warned you and wanted you about getting away from Richmond.
I will hate Gabe in episode 5 too. Nothing is gonna change that. Being a moody teenager doesnt mean that you can fuck up everything. For God's sake, I dont understand why are so people thinks that Gabe is just a kid and his mistakes are normal because he is a kid ? I cant believe you guys.
I am not part of any movement but I do HATE FUCKING GABE!! I just wanna beat the shit out of his fucking punchable face with my mits, yes no… more baseball bat or other pussy weapon shit, just my bear fucking hands.
Why?
Well because he's some scrawny little douchebag teen who always wears that stupid fucking orange bean hat like a c*nt, so he'd better stay the fuck away from my Clem because my Lee brought her up to not fall for dickheads like Gabe.
Lets see these claims.
Gabe "whiny little shit" counterclaims
1.This only happens when you shoot Conrad, therefore it isn't really his fault for that incident.
2.Where in the story does he even mention being able to hotwire and drive a truck? Even then, how does this make him a "whiny little shit"? Also, he probably doesn't think he can take that guard on, he just jumped on the opportunity when it struck him. (adrenaline, you that thing?)
3.He was scared and the experience was probably traumatic for him, judgment isn't always top notch in situations like these. Besides, he was only trying to help.
Where does he say anyone can die for his dad? He only mentions that he can die for his Dad. (It's worth dieing for, is what he says)
Clementine "hypocrite" counter claims
1.Why wouldn't she? Conrad was going to use her. Besides, this only happens when you shoot him. Also, how is this proof Clementine isn't a hypocrite?
2.Gabe can use a gun, if you failed to see that. Gabe also has intentions of helping out the group, he just needs better ways of accomplishing these tasks. How does Gabe help? Lets see... Running across bullet fire to push Kate to safety, helping Kate when she got shot, helping rescue Javier when he was in the New Frontier prison, helping Javier get guns from the armory, can determinately help his father go after either Joan or Clint. Yeah... Gabe is SO useless. Once again, how is this proof Clementine isn't a hypocrite?
I never said Clementine blamed Javier for his choice, I stated that Clementine said that either choice the player made was the "wrong one", accepting the deal led to her getting mad at you for trusting David, and shooting Joan led to her getting mad at you for not taking the deal.
You are correct, just because you are a moody teen doesn't mean you can fuck up everything.
However, kids are going to make mistakes, it's life. There is not a better time to learn than as a kid, and that means mistakes... Lots of mistakes.
Gabe is a stubborn, whiny piece of shit. Lets find out why
1-When you didnt agree to make him come with you, he will rat you out about Co… morenrad because you didnt bring his punk ass in a rescue mission. Thats why Tripp will hate you and dissappointed at you.
2- He thinks that he is capable enough to steal a truck,hotwire it and drive it(LMAO). He thinks that he can beat an armed guard (in the process Javi got stabbed and maybe almost died if he didnt manage to knock the guard out).
3- When Eleanor helped Kate when she got shot, he will pour whole bottle of alcohol to directly Kate's wound and make her pass out. He could have killed her. He doenst even know the difference between alcohol and water OMG.
4-All he cares about his dad, he thinks that anyone can die for saving him(I cant even handle writing this anymore).
You think Clem is hypocrat ? Lets see why you are wrong:
1-She will back you up when your own nephew sold you out even… [view original content]
To all those who claim shooting Conrad was the right choice. (does not apply to all of those who shot Conrad)
It's funny how you claim you shot Conrad in order to save Gabe's life, but then immediately turn around and want him to die.
You are literally becoming a hypocrite by justifying shooting Conrad because he threatened Gabe's life and then wanting Gabe to die.
If you don't kill Conrad, Gabe will be just a normal teenager trying to be useful.
No, he calls you a coward for sparing him and I d… moreon't care if it happens in episode 2 only.
Yeah, it's your fault.
I saved his stupid fucking life from a maniac who pointed a gun on him for no reason and this is how he repays me, he was like "Fuck you for saving my life". ANYONE who denies the things I have done for them deserve to die.
1.This only happens when you shoot Conrad, therefore it isn't really his fault for that incident
I'd say that Gabe has been plenty moody besides just that part in the game. Right in the beginning he even says he's in a bad mood and he can't make it go away.
2.Where in the story does he even mention being able to hotwire and drive a truck? Even then, how does this make him a "whiny little shit"? Also, he probably doesn't think he can take that guard on, he just jumped on the opportunity when it struck him. (adrenaline, you that thing?)
He doesn't actually say anything along these lines. In episode 4 right after he rats on you about Conrad, he will insist that he goes to steal the truck, and that you're punishing him by not letting him Because he snitched about Conrad. All 4 of them end up stealing the truck together anyways though so idk what his fuss was about. I think he just wanted to go with Clementine and make her think he's useful and hang out with her instead of staying back with Kate.
1.Why wouldn't she? Conrad was going to use her. Besides, this only happens when you shoot him. Also, how is this proof Clementine isn't a hypocrite?
Clementine backs you up pretty much throughout the entire season tremendously. Idk why people try to downplay it. She helps you fight new frontier right when they kill Mariana. She helps in the following shootout at Prescott big time, even secretly following you and saving your life if you surrender yourself to them when they attack. She digs a fucking grave for Mariana while Javi is recovering from a flash bang for crying out loud, and she comforts you while you fill the grave. Drives you to see your family. She continuously calms Gabe down, since she's the only one he seems to listen to calmly without arguing or getting moody. She picks up your baseball bat and finishes off some walkers for you. She's the first one to back you up in the confrontation with Jesus, and tells him not to move at gunpoint, allowing Javi to disarm him. She stitches up your arm after Gabe gets you stabbed. And she pushes you out of the way of Kate coming in hot in the truck with no regard for human life at the end of episode 4 if you miss the quick time event to dodge out of the way. She even does much more than this, but the bottom line is that Clem is an invaluable partner and definitely not a hypocrite.
2.Gabe can use a gun, if you failed to see that. Gabe also has intentions of helping out the group, he just needs better ways of accomplishing these tasks. How does Gabe help? Lets see... Running across bullet fire to push Kate to safety, helping Kate when she got shot, helping rescue Javier when he was in the New Frontier prison, helping Javier get guns from the armory, can determinately help his father go after either Joan or Clint. Yeah... Gabe is SO useless. Once again, how is this proof Clementine isn't a hypocrite?
If you stay with Clem to bury Mariana, when you get back Gabe concedes that he didn't do shit to help Kate, and that he ran away scared. He did help get the guns in the armory, but also got javi stabbed in the process, almost getting killed. Gabe has been helpful in a couple of other situations though, like pushing the dumpster and the truck. BUT, I've never seen gabe use a gun at all, all we've seen is him say he could use one. I can't remember him using it but I may be wrong, and I wouldn't trust him to shoot anyone at this point. As a matter of fact, Gabe actually has a gun inside the tunnels, and doesn't even use it. A walker jumps on him, and instead of shooting it he asks javi to help, and Jesus ninja kicks and flips a walker to save him.
As far as Clementine complaining about David fucking up the deal with Joan, I feel it's radically different. It sure isn't right in front of everyone on directly before putting an important plan into action or yelling in your face/aggressive in nature. And she sure isn't a hypocrite because of this, since she has been quite vocal the whole time about her distrust and dislike for David. It actually makes her the opposite of a hypocrite, and true to her beliefs.
All I'm saying, is that Clementine can't be compared to Gabe at the moment. Right now, one of the two is an angel gifted from the heavens above, and the other is the shit stain in my undies. Yes, Gabe is trying his best, but he's still unlikeable, and to try and knock Clem down to his level is just silly.
Lets see these claims.
Gabe "whiny little shit" counterclaims
1.This only happens when you shoot Conrad, therefore it isn't really his f… moreault for that incident.
2.Where in the story does he even mention being able to hotwire and drive a truck? Even then, how does this make him a "whiny little shit"? Also, he probably doesn't think he can take that guard on, he just jumped on the opportunity when it struck him. (adrenaline, you that thing?)
3.He was scared and the experience was probably traumatic for him, judgment isn't always top notch in situations like these. Besides, he was only trying to help.
* Where does he say anyone can die for his dad? He only mentions that he can die for his Dad. (It's worth dieing for, is what he says)
Clementine "hypocrite" counter claims
1.Why wouldn't she? Conrad was going to use her. Besides, this only happens when you shoot him. Also, how is this proof Clementine isn't a hypocrite?
2.G… [view original content]
To all those who claim shooting Conrad was the right choice. (does not apply to all of those who shot Conrad)
It's funny how you claim you … moreshot Conrad in order to save Gabe's life, but then immediately turn around and want him to die.
You are literally becoming a hypocrite by justifying shooting Conrad because he threatened Gabe's life and then wanting Gabe to die.
As far as Clementine complaining about David fucking up the deal with Joan, I feel it's radically different. It sure isn't right in front of everyone on directly before putting an important plan into action or yelling in your face/aggressive in nature. And she sure isn't a hypocrite because of this, since she has been quite vocal the whole time about her distrust and dislike for David. It actually makes her the opposite of a hypocrite, and true to her beliefs.
I want to add to that paragraph that there is a major difference between blowing out a secret/delicate situation to the group (Gabe, regarding Conrad), or taking someone aside and telling them eye-to-eye what s/he thinks about a recent action (Clementine, regarding shooting Joan/David shooting Clint). She could've voiced her opinion right there in the open when it happened.
1.This only happens when you shoot Conrad, therefore it isn't really his fault for that incident
I'd say that Gabe has been plenty m… moreoody besides just that part in the game. Right in the beginning he even says he's in a bad mood and he can't make it go away.
2.Where in the story does he even mention being able to hotwire and drive a truck? Even then, how does this make him a "whiny little shit"? Also, he probably doesn't think he can take that guard on, he just jumped on the opportunity when it struck him. (adrenaline, you that thing?)
He doesn't actually say anything along these lines. In episode 4 right after he rats on you about Conrad, he will insist that he goes to steal the truck, and that you're punishing him by not letting him Because he snitched about Conrad. All 4 of them end up stealing the truck together anyways though so idk what his fuss was about. I think he just wanted to go with Clementine and make her th… [view original content]
To all those who claim shooting Conrad was the right choice. (does not apply to all of those who shot Conrad)
I don't anymore
It's funny how you claim you shot Conrad in order to save Gabe's life, but then immediately turn around and want him to die.
That's because Gabe judged my choice of saving his life. He didn't care that I shot Conrad for him.
You are literally becoming a hypocrite by justifying shooting Conrad because he threatened Gabe's life and then wanting Gabe to die.
Who are you to judge people's fucking choices? Am I a fucking hypocrite for hating an obvious hated character? I shot Conrad because he was threatening Clementine and Gabe and when Gabe threw me under the bus, I fucking regret shooting Conrad, I shouldn't have done anything for Gabe in the first place.
To all those who claim shooting Conrad was the right choice. (does not apply to all of those who shot Conrad)
It's funny how you claim you … moreshot Conrad in order to save Gabe's life, but then immediately turn around and want him to die.
You are literally becoming a hypocrite by justifying shooting Conrad because he threatened Gabe's life and then wanting Gabe to die.
I fucking regret shooting Conrad, I shouldn't have done anything for Gabe in the first place.
You can still justify it for yourself by saying that you didn't fall in Clem's back. That's what I do.
Also I don't think Conrad cared about medical help for Kate, that was just an incentive to persuade Javier.
Conrad held two children at gunpoint, and God knows if he had pulled the trigger. In that moment, it seemed right to me, to put him down, for Gabe and for Clementine.
That however doesn't change the fact that Gabe behaved like a shitty brat and I grew to dislike him afterwards.
To all those who claim shooting Conrad was the right choice. (does not apply to all of those who shot Conrad)
I don't anymore
… moreIt's funny how you claim you shot Conrad in order to save Gabe's life, but then immediately turn around and want him to die.
That's because Gabe judged my choice of saving his life. He didn't care that I shot Conrad for him.
You are literally becoming a hypocrite by justifying shooting Conrad because he threatened Gabe's life and then wanting Gabe to die.
Who are you to judge people's fucking choices? Am I a fucking hypocrite for hating an obvious hated character? I shot Conrad because he was threatening Clementine and Gabe and when Gabe threw me under the bus, I fucking regret shooting Conrad, I shouldn't have done anything for Gabe in the first place.
Yes it did...it was because they were after Javi that Prescott was attacked...or did you not play the fucking game? And no Kenny almost nev… moreer apologizes...because an apology does not start with I am sorry..but....that is just a nice way of saying fuck you I am right.
But I can see you are not going to budge from your stance...and I am not....so we just agree to disagree.
Grow up, my username represents my disdain for the use of a loved character to artificially provide characters with depth into season 2 without the writers actually doing any hard work themselves.
I'm good. Gabe is a whiny brat, and part of this seems to be that because while others we've seen who've endured being on the move for extended periods of time have experienced a more hardened development, because they've dropped these brand new characters into the story 4 years after everything started we have to now watch them develop as they would within the first few months. Gabe not only comes off as annoying, but unrealistic for someone who's lost just about everyone he's ever known years prior and we're subjected to a typical teenage drama with him.
This is an overall problem in ANF, but more pronounced with Gabe because of how generally annoying his character has to be for this to work. I'm simply not going to care if he dies at this point, he was handled terribly.
Grow up, my username represents my disdain for the use of a loved character to artificially provide characters with depth into season 2 without the writers actually doing any hard work themselves.
1- He threatened a 13 years old kid with a gun on her head because she has The New Frontier brand on her arm. And then he took my nephew as a hostage in order to persuade me about taking Clem as a bargaining chip. He was unstable, unpredictable. All he wanted is that take revenge about Francine. He didnt make sense and he was a pretty dangerous person because of his unpredictable situation. So I killed him and saved my nephew. He was more than a nephew in that moment he was like a son to Javi.
2- Gabe can use a gun what a surprise. I know it already but using a gun is not enough in zombie apocalypse. You have to be smart, patient, quick-thinker, loyal and caring as well. Gabe doesnt have those qualities. I am sorry but running in an area during a shooting is dumb. It is too way risky. This doesnt mean to me that Gabe helped the situation. Gabe helped the armory but all he did was just showing that where the armory is, I didnt see more than that. In fact, he made a pretty good job with guard.
How do you expect he could get the truck ? He just gonna push the truck with Clem during all the way? What I understand is that as I told you, he thinks that he has all the great qualifies for stealing a truck(LMAO). He is not making sense, he started to get annoying and dumb. I thought Ben was worst but here we go.
Look, you are right but he is 13-14 years old. He spend 4 years in apocalypse and still his moves and calls are just gonna only get him killed and nothing different. He is stubborn and whinning too much. This isnt the way to earn respect or get rid of childish. What makes you mature is that sticking people, listening to them, stay loyal and try to learn some qualifies to improve yourself. But all Gabe wants is that being a badass immediately in order to prove himself to his Dad and Clem. I dont have sympathy for that kind of character.
Lets see these claims.
Gabe "whiny little shit" counterclaims
1.This only happens when you shoot Conrad, therefore it isn't really his f… moreault for that incident.
2.Where in the story does he even mention being able to hotwire and drive a truck? Even then, how does this make him a "whiny little shit"? Also, he probably doesn't think he can take that guard on, he just jumped on the opportunity when it struck him. (adrenaline, you that thing?)
3.He was scared and the experience was probably traumatic for him, judgment isn't always top notch in situations like these. Besides, he was only trying to help.
* Where does he say anyone can die for his dad? He only mentions that he can die for his Dad. (It's worth dieing for, is what he says)
Clementine "hypocrite" counter claims
1.Why wouldn't she? Conrad was going to use her. Besides, this only happens when you shoot him. Also, how is this proof Clementine isn't a hypocrite?
2.G… [view original content]
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Agreed. Shit, it raises my hackles when they use the only likeable character as a gadget to bum-rush conflict between an effortlessly facile and cliche dadhero vs villain tantrum. It really would've been cool to see her get involved more.
Really? That exchange made you want to block him? It only says a lot about you.
Definitely. It's a shame they didn't give her enough screentime. She was definitely more likeable than Gabe. Then again, no character this season for me is likeable in the sense I don't feel attached to anyone like i did from the characters in Season 1
That also points out how hypocritical Gabe can be; calling Javi a coward for not shooting Conrad, and ratting Javi out if he did shoot Conrad.
They could've used Gabe instead of Mariana as well, though. I mean by the time Mariana died, Gabe didn't have much more screen time than Mariana, and both were, for me, on the same level character development-wise. I liked them both equally (Mariana a little more, since she seemed a tad bit smarter).
Exactly.
Yes, they killed the most likeable character of these season and just spared the ones NO ONE gives a shit about. The only ones that I like is David, Clementine and Conrad.
I am not part of any movement but I do HATE FUCKING GABE!! I just wanna beat the shit out of his fucking punchable face with my mits, yes no baseball bat or other pussy weapon shit, just my bear fucking hands.
Why?
Well because he's some scrawny little douchebag teen who always wears that stupid fucking orange bean hat like a c*nt, so he'd better stay the fuck away from my Clem because my Lee brought her up to not fall for dickheads like Gabe.
Lee's rolling in his grave.
I agree Aron
Even though I hate this season and all it's characters. The ones i have tolerated is Clem, David and Conrad.
Well, I've dealt long enough with delusional people, especially over the internet. That's why I like to block them in order to usually avoid happenings like this.
Gabe is a wanker, Ben was superior.
Nope. Typical Kenny-hater.
He always apologized for what he did. You just ignore it.
And the stuff that happened to Prescott and especially Francine had nothing to do with Javi, yet Conrad blames him and takes one child hostage, trying to take another one hostage as well. If you don't see the major difference, then it is your damn fault.
I like how your reasons for hating Gabe are his bean hat and his physique.
lol
Gabe reminds me of a young Shia LaBeouf.
You have no rights to control my feelings on him.... I've hated his edgy charecter the first min I saw him dude his charecter is simply unrealistic after all this time of the apocalypse
Not bad.
Yes it did...it was because they were after Javi that Prescott was attacked...or did you not play the fucking game? And no Kenny almost never apologizes...because an apology does not start with I am sorry..but....that is just a nice way of saying fuck you I am right.
But I can see you are not going to budge from your stance...and I am not....so we just agree to disagree.
One of the worst things she did in S3, IMO: pointed a loaded gun at some guy's head just to prove a point, which ended up with him getting killed. She then asks you to lie and cover up for her mistake right after, resulting in Javier going to jail, while his family is in iminent danger.
Gabe is a stubborn, whiny piece of shit. Lets find out why
1-When you didnt agree to make him come with you, he will rat you out about Conrad because you didnt bring his punk ass in a rescue mission. Thats why Tripp will hate you and dissappointed at you.
2- He thinks that he is capable enough to steal a truck,hotwire it and drive it(LMAO). He thinks that he can beat an armed guard (in the process Javi got stabbed and maybe almost died if he didnt manage to knock the guard out).
3- When Eleanor helped Kate when she got shot, he will pour whole bottle of alcohol to directly Kate's wound and make her pass out. He could have killed her. He doenst even know the difference between alcohol and water OMG.
4-All he cares about his dad, he thinks that anyone can die for saving him(I cant even handle writing this anymore).
You think Clem is hypocrat ? Lets see why you are wrong:
1-She will back you up when your own nephew sold you out even you know her about 1-2 days.
2-She is not screwing up things like that piece of shit. She is capable of using a gun,defend herself and helping to group. Not like that piece of shit. Did you see one time Gabe actually helped the whole group ?
3-She is not blaming you for accepting the deal. She thinks that sticking to his brother is not a good option.(Which is I actually started to agree.) She warned you and wanted you about getting away from Richmond.
I will hate Gabe in episode 5 too. Nothing is gonna change that. Being a moody teenager doesnt mean that you can fuck up everything. For God's sake, I dont understand why are so people thinks that Gabe is just a kid and his mistakes are normal because he is a kid ? I cant believe you guys.
dude you are awesome LOL
Lets see these claims.
Gabe "whiny little shit" counterclaims
1.This only happens when you shoot Conrad, therefore it isn't really his fault for that incident.
2.Where in the story does he even mention being able to hotwire and drive a truck? Even then, how does this make him a "whiny little shit"? Also, he probably doesn't think he can take that guard on, he just jumped on the opportunity when it struck him. (adrenaline, you that thing?)
3.He was scared and the experience was probably traumatic for him, judgment isn't always top notch in situations like these. Besides, he was only trying to help.
Clementine "hypocrite" counter claims
1.Why wouldn't she? Conrad was going to use her. Besides, this only happens when you shoot him. Also, how is this proof Clementine isn't a hypocrite?
2.Gabe can use a gun, if you failed to see that. Gabe also has intentions of helping out the group, he just needs better ways of accomplishing these tasks. How does Gabe help? Lets see... Running across bullet fire to push Kate to safety, helping Kate when she got shot, helping rescue Javier when he was in the New Frontier prison, helping Javier get guns from the armory, can determinately help his father go after either Joan or Clint. Yeah... Gabe is SO useless. Once again, how is this proof Clementine isn't a hypocrite?
You are correct, just because you are a moody teen doesn't mean you can fuck up everything.
However, kids are going to make mistakes, it's life. There is not a better time to learn than as a kid, and that means mistakes... Lots of mistakes.
To all those who claim shooting Conrad was the right choice. (does not apply to all of those who shot Conrad)
It's funny how you claim you shot Conrad in order to save Gabe's life, but then immediately turn around and want him to die.
You are literally becoming a hypocrite by justifying shooting Conrad because he threatened Gabe's life and then wanting Gabe to die.
I HOPE Gabe gets devoured by walkers.
I'd say that Gabe has been plenty moody besides just that part in the game. Right in the beginning he even says he's in a bad mood and he can't make it go away.
He doesn't actually say anything along these lines. In episode 4 right after he rats on you about Conrad, he will insist that he goes to steal the truck, and that you're punishing him by not letting him Because he snitched about Conrad. All 4 of them end up stealing the truck together anyways though so idk what his fuss was about. I think he just wanted to go with Clementine and make her think he's useful and hang out with her instead of staying back with Kate.
Clementine backs you up pretty much throughout the entire season tremendously. Idk why people try to downplay it. She helps you fight new frontier right when they kill Mariana. She helps in the following shootout at Prescott big time, even secretly following you and saving your life if you surrender yourself to them when they attack. She digs a fucking grave for Mariana while Javi is recovering from a flash bang for crying out loud, and she comforts you while you fill the grave. Drives you to see your family. She continuously calms Gabe down, since she's the only one he seems to listen to calmly without arguing or getting moody. She picks up your baseball bat and finishes off some walkers for you. She's the first one to back you up in the confrontation with Jesus, and tells him not to move at gunpoint, allowing Javi to disarm him. She stitches up your arm after Gabe gets you stabbed. And she pushes you out of the way of Kate coming in hot in the truck with no regard for human life at the end of episode 4 if you miss the quick time event to dodge out of the way. She even does much more than this, but the bottom line is that Clem is an invaluable partner and definitely not a hypocrite.
If you stay with Clem to bury Mariana, when you get back Gabe concedes that he didn't do shit to help Kate, and that he ran away scared. He did help get the guns in the armory, but also got javi stabbed in the process, almost getting killed. Gabe has been helpful in a couple of other situations though, like pushing the dumpster and the truck. BUT, I've never seen gabe use a gun at all, all we've seen is him say he could use one. I can't remember him using it but I may be wrong, and I wouldn't trust him to shoot anyone at this point. As a matter of fact, Gabe actually has a gun inside the tunnels, and doesn't even use it. A walker jumps on him, and instead of shooting it he asks javi to help, and Jesus ninja kicks and flips a walker to save him.
As far as Clementine complaining about David fucking up the deal with Joan, I feel it's radically different. It sure isn't right in front of everyone on directly before putting an important plan into action or yelling in your face/aggressive in nature. And she sure isn't a hypocrite because of this, since she has been quite vocal the whole time about her distrust and dislike for David. It actually makes her the opposite of a hypocrite, and true to her beliefs.
All I'm saying, is that Clementine can't be compared to Gabe at the moment. Right now, one of the two is an angel gifted from the heavens above, and the other is the shit stain in my undies. Yes, Gabe is trying his best, but he's still unlikeable, and to try and knock Clem down to his level is just silly.
I did it for both Clem and Gabe. In retrospect, I did it only for Clem.
I felt indifferent towards Gabe in E2. But I dislike him since E4.
I want to add to that paragraph that there is a major difference between blowing out a secret/delicate situation to the group (Gabe, regarding Conrad), or taking someone aside and telling them eye-to-eye what s/he thinks about a recent action (Clementine, regarding shooting Joan/David shooting Clint). She could've voiced her opinion right there in the open when it happened.
I don't anymore
That's because Gabe judged my choice of saving his life. He didn't care that I shot Conrad for him.
Who are you to judge people's fucking choices? Am I a fucking hypocrite for hating an obvious hated character? I shot Conrad because he was threatening Clementine and Gabe and when Gabe threw me under the bus, I fucking regret shooting Conrad, I shouldn't have done anything for Gabe in the first place.
You can still justify it for yourself by saying that you didn't fall in Clem's back. That's what I do.
Also I don't think Conrad cared about medical help for Kate, that was just an incentive to persuade Javier.
Conrad held two children at gunpoint, and God knows if he had pulled the trigger. In that moment, it seemed right to me, to put him down, for Gabe and for Clementine.
That however doesn't change the fact that Gabe behaved like a shitty brat and I grew to dislike him afterwards.
That would be the best part of Season Finale.
Yes and as it happens Clementine watches him die with pleasure as she smokes a cigarette!
I am glad that other people think the same way I think. You're the best Heroquetarro10!!!
Nope. Your username already disqualifies you from any serious discussion about Kenny.
Grow up, my username represents my disdain for the use of a loved character to artificially provide characters with depth into season 2 without the writers actually doing any hard work themselves.
I'm good. Gabe is a whiny brat, and part of this seems to be that because while others we've seen who've endured being on the move for extended periods of time have experienced a more hardened development, because they've dropped these brand new characters into the story 4 years after everything started we have to now watch them develop as they would within the first few months. Gabe not only comes off as annoying, but unrealistic for someone who's lost just about everyone he's ever known years prior and we're subjected to a typical teenage drama with him.
This is an overall problem in ANF, but more pronounced with Gabe because of how generally annoying his character has to be for this to work. I'm simply not going to care if he dies at this point, he was handled terribly.
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While I don't hate him I think it's understandable if other people do. If people want to hate him just let them...It's their opinion after all.
Yeah Gabe isn't Ben 2.0 because Ben is actually so much better. Gabe is worthless and should be put down.
1- He threatened a 13 years old kid with a gun on her head because she has The New Frontier brand on her arm. And then he took my nephew as a hostage in order to persuade me about taking Clem as a bargaining chip. He was unstable, unpredictable. All he wanted is that take revenge about Francine. He didnt make sense and he was a pretty dangerous person because of his unpredictable situation. So I killed him and saved my nephew. He was more than a nephew in that moment he was like a son to Javi.
2- Gabe can use a gun what a surprise. I know it already but using a gun is not enough in zombie apocalypse. You have to be smart, patient, quick-thinker, loyal and caring as well. Gabe doesnt have those qualities. I am sorry but running in an area during a shooting is dumb. It is too way risky. This doesnt mean to me that Gabe helped the situation. Gabe helped the armory but all he did was just showing that where the armory is, I didnt see more than that. In fact, he made a pretty good job with guard.
How do you expect he could get the truck ? He just gonna push the truck with Clem during all the way? What I understand is that as I told you, he thinks that he has all the great qualifies for stealing a truck(LMAO). He is not making sense, he started to get annoying and dumb. I thought Ben was worst but here we go.
Look, you are right but he is 13-14 years old. He spend 4 years in apocalypse and still his moves and calls are just gonna only get him killed and nothing different. He is stubborn and whinning too much. This isnt the way to earn respect or get rid of childish. What makes you mature is that sticking people, listening to them, stay loyal and try to learn some qualifies to improve yourself. But all Gabe wants is that being a badass immediately in order to prove himself to his Dad and Clem. I dont have sympathy for that kind of character.