Well, I want Guybrush to do the Manly Piratey thing and Grab ahold of Morgan. I think after he is risen from the dead with the Pox he will, then Elanie and LeChuck will have to fight a Truly unhinged Guybrush. I think Guybrush could become unstoppable if he turn into a Remorseless Zombie Pirate
I have to say, giving Guybrush more prosperity would be great, and Telltale are playing on our interest between Guybrush and Morgan.
If you were a man, what would you prefer?
Spend the rest of your life with someone who thinks you're great, but is trying to kill you (sort of) (Which incidentally the "Rest of your life" would not be too grand of an endeavor should your oppressor win)
or
Spend the rest of your life with someone who patronizes and berates you, but is not trying to kill you (at least) yet has kind of a thing for the undead (sort of) pirate meanie pants you though so hard to quash... 4 times (Which incidentally the first part of that sums up marriage pretty good)
I felt telltale are doing a good job in keeping the question open. Morgan's flaws have finally been shown so know we need to know more about Elaine. Now the pics show what happens but not why
the set up of the swordfight will show which way the leaning will go. We don't know why Morgan and Elaine are fighting.
Is Elaine 'rescuing' Guybrush?
Is Morgan 'defending' him?
Is it both? (thus boosting Elaine without damaging Morgan more)
I also added a riduiculous theory in the shocking truth. Emphasing I didn't believe it but supposed Morgan does:
Guybrush is used as a stalking horse against Elaine's first unsuccessful victim, and sent on a wild goose chase to Monkey Island where all who have gone have died. Against all odds he survives and is about to defeat Le Chuck when Elaine intervenes giving Le Chuck a new focus for his anger.
I lost all respect and sympathy for Morgan as a character in Chapter 3. She claims Guybrush is her idol, but when the chance comes along, she's slices off his hand, and later knocks him out to send him back to the pyscho doc. Neither one of those actions are very good at getting Guybrush to be your boyfriend or friend (which in the one cutscene it looked like she wanted). Doesn't she have any values at all besides a piece of eight?
Elaine and Guybrush are drawn too old for my taste, while Morgan is much younger and cuter so it's hard to vote for Elaine. I definitely do not like Elaine's rosy cheek.
Elaine isn't drawn that old. The vocals do give away that the age of the voice-actor here and there, and this unfortunately makes it feel like she's older than her character would seem if you turned the audio off.
Like i said in other threads in this forum:
Morgan is much cuter and she have tons of energy to make Monkey island fun. Elaine had her moment, now ditch her Telltale!
In my opinion Morgan IS cuter and has a great dangerous charme. BUT elaine and guybrush belong together... too bad for you guybrush! ;P
Im wondering why the designed Elaine so much uglier than Morgan i mean come on!? xD oh and i hate her accent! o..O
After this chapter I think it's even more evident that Guybrush is a one-woman man - and that woman is Elaine. Even when she's "poxing out" at him and says some pretty mean stuff, he doesn't get mad (well... maybe a little bit hurt... but he hides it well). He just says "I know that's the pox talking, but you are going to owe me SO many smooches when this is all over." Aww.
I have no idea how anyone can be vouching for a Morgan/Guybrush relationship after the final scene of Episode 4 unless they're completely callous and misogynistic.
Im wondering why the designed Elaine so much uglier than Morgan i mean come on!? xD
Actually I don't understand the people who say Elaine would be ugly in ToMI. I think they are good-looking in different ways. Morgan is more the "hot" type, while Elaine seems more like the "cosy" (not the best word to describe what I'm trying to express) type. And in regard of a serious relationship I would prefer the second one (if I would have to choose).
And although it seems like Morgan is treating Guybrush better than Elaine does, the constellation between Guybrush and Elaine fits more than Guybrush/Morgan in my opinion.
Just imagine a relationship of Morgan and Guybrush... I'm getting a quite boring picture here, at least after a while. I think Guybrush and Elaine have some special something with each other. It's more a deeper friendship and longer lasting love than an infatuation - this stage of their relationship has already passed, successful.
But I still vouch for their friendship, together with a serious talk about Morgan's motives, her final help... Guybrush could express his gratitude too.
I mean, c'mon people, if there is another woman in the set, we don't have to drag her to bed. They can be ass-kicking friends
I have no idea how anyone can be vouching for a Morgan/Guybrush relationship after the final scene of Episode 4 unless they're completely callous and misogynistic.
Yup.
But I still vouch for their friendship, together with a serious talk about Morgan's motives, her final help... Guybrush could express his gratitude too.
I mean, c'mon people, if there is another woman in the set, we don't have to drag her to bed. They can be ass-kicking friends
Morgan is almost half Guybrush's age, surely. She's certainly naive and still finding her feet in life. Guybrush and Elaine seem to have a great partnership where they are both equally capable of commandeering and captaining ships and finding booty. Okay, Elaine treats Guybrush as if he's a little lacking in the hero department but she still married him which says something for her good taste, right?
Ten years of marriage says they are doing something right.
(Though there was a study recently that said that the average lifespan for a marriage that ends in divorce is 11 years...).
This thread is honest to God disgusting. They're a married couple and been that way for like 10 years now... I think some people are being very immature here and not very realistic. This game isn't called Pimp Sugar Daddy of the Caribbean...
This thread is honest to God disgusting. They're a married couple and been that way for like 10 years now... I think some people are being very immature here and not very realistic. This game isn't called Pimp Sugar Daddy of the Caribbean...
I totally agree with you, that this affair/divorce kind of stuff doesn't belong into this sort of games. But your argumentation for itself lacks any reason.
When a relationship doesn't work anymore (of course after several attempts to "save" it), it's better to let go. (BUT that's not the case with Guybrush and Elaine in my opinion!)
So the "they are married for ten years and so they have to stay this way"-attitude is in a way more immature and unrealistic in my point of view.
I think 40% of modern marriages end in "affair" followed by "divorce"
The human race has gotten way too selfish.
Actually? Just more honest. In the past, there were affairs, but the couple would stay together for appearances or because if they didn't then they would be shunned. It was a matter of cultural repression. The human race has always been just about as shallow, and the past is nothing to be too romantic about.
I think 40% of modern marriages end in "affair" followed by "divorce"
The human race has gotten way too selfish.
Nah! It's just that it's stopped thinking that if it does selfish stuff it'll end up being poked in private areas by demons with tridents and hacksaws for all eternity.
If you don't scare a kid he'll do whatever he wants. Exactly the same on the macro-scale
Actually, there's a post by Jake in the Guybrush's age topic where he said that his read on the "ten years of plunder" line was that it had been ten years since they met in Secret, not ten years since they've been married. I'm guessing it's more like five or six years, not that that changes very much.
Really, I blame Escape for people wanting to see Guybrush and Elaine broken up. That game pretty much assassinated her character by portraying her as an abusive and condescending b-word...
Really, I blame Escape for people wanting to see Guybrush and Elaine broken up. That game pretty much assassinated her character by portraying her as an abusive and condescending b-word...
She's pretty bad. They portrayed her as conceited and self-obsessed, though still capable. That whole bit at the start when they are about to arrive at Melee Island both her and Guybrush are acting really selfish and unlikable. That was one of the EMI criticisms that got washed away and semi-forgotten by the sea of
giant monkey robots, frustrating and unfun substitutes for insult sword fighting, and illogical contradictory plot twists involving certain hermits.
Sure Morgan is cute and all, but think about it... Future Monkey Island games wouldn't really be one if they get rid of Elaine. She's been there ever since the 1st game. They just add Morgan for a love triangle effect and guess what we are doing now.... We are actually discussing who Guybrush should be with, lol.
Elaine is most likely going to stay with Guybrush.
She's pretty bad. They portrayed her as conceited and self-obsessed, though still capable. That whole bit at the start when they are about to arrive at Melee Island both her and Guybrush are acting really selfish and unlikable. That was one of the EMI criticisms that got washed away and semi-forgotten by the sea of
giant monkey robots, frustrating and unfun substitutes for insult sword fighting, and illogical contradictory plot twists involving certain hermits.
You're spoiler tagging for a nine year old game. wtf?
Speaking of spoilers,
who wants some confirmation that Guybrush and Elaine are staying together? Be warned, these Nintendo Power interview scans include other chapter 5 spoilers.
Yes, I know the spoiler tags don't change the link text to white, so if you didn't view the spoiler, don't click the links.
While I do agree that I couldn't see Guybrush and Elaine splitting, I really do like Morgan a lot, and I'd really hate to see her finish the game empty-handed. Maybe she should look up Guybrush Q. Theepwood? You know, assuming he hasn't already hooked up with Elayne.
She's pretty bad. They portrayed her as conceited and self-obsessed, though still capable. That whole bit at the start when they are about to arrive at Melee Island both her and Guybrush are acting really selfish and unlikable. That was one of the EMI criticisms that got washed away and semi-forgotten by the sea of
giant monkey robots, frustrating and unfun substitutes for insult sword fighting, and illogical contradictory plot twists involving certain hermits.
As a guy who grew up in a large conceited Catholic family (well you've got to be with so many people vying for affection & attention), I didn't mind that so much. Y'know, although I am far from being a defender of EfMI, some of these terrible plot-twists were talked about when the untarnishable Ron Gilbert was still the head-Pirate.
By far the worst thing for me was that Guybrush's expressions were stupid. I explained it all away in my head that he'd gotten into a fight with a botoxer on Lovely Island during his honeymoon... But now i'm getting off-topic.
Comments
If you were a man, what would you prefer?
Spend the rest of your life with someone who thinks you're great, but is trying to kill you (sort of) (Which incidentally the "Rest of your life" would not be too grand of an endeavor should your oppressor win)
or
Spend the rest of your life with someone who patronizes and berates you, but is not trying to kill you (at least) yet has kind of a thing for the undead (sort of) pirate meanie pants you though so hard to quash... 4 times (Which incidentally the first part of that sums up marriage pretty good)
On a side note, the ratio of males to females at this point is 7:1.
Is Elaine 'rescuing' Guybrush?
Is Morgan 'defending' him?
Is it both? (thus boosting Elaine without damaging Morgan more)
I also added a riduiculous theory in the shocking truth. Emphasing I didn't believe it but supposed Morgan does:
Morgan is much cuter and she have tons of energy to make Monkey island fun. Elaine had her moment, now ditch her Telltale!
... bit of a mouthful don't you think?
Im wondering why the designed Elaine so much uglier than Morgan i mean come on!? xD oh and i hate her accent! o..O
Guybrush and Elaine are rock solid.
GASP!!!! close that can of worms....!
Actually I don't understand the people who say Elaine would be ugly in ToMI. I think they are good-looking in different ways. Morgan is more the "hot" type, while Elaine seems more like the "cosy" (not the best word to describe what I'm trying to express) type. And in regard of a serious relationship I would prefer the second one (if I would have to choose).
And although it seems like Morgan is treating Guybrush better than Elaine does, the constellation between Guybrush and Elaine fits more than Guybrush/Morgan in my opinion.
Just imagine a relationship of Morgan and Guybrush... I'm getting a quite boring picture here, at least after a while. I think Guybrush and Elaine have some special something with each other. It's more a deeper friendship and longer lasting love than an infatuation - this stage of their relationship has already passed, successful.
I have known plenty of Morgans and Elaines in my day I think I ended up marrying a mix of the two.
But I still vouch for their friendship, together with a serious talk about Morgan's motives, her final help... Guybrush could express his gratitude too.
I mean, c'mon people, if there is another woman in the set, we don't have to drag her to bed. They can be ass-kicking friends
Well, congratulations then!
And yeah, that's my point.
Which part of "ravish me silly" or all that cat fighting sounds "cutey"? Just curious
Yup.
But I still vouch for their friendship, together with a serious talk about Morgan's motives, her final help... Guybrush could express his gratitude too.
I mean, c'mon people, if there is another woman in the set, we don't have to drag her to bed. They can be ass-kicking friends
Morgan is almost half Guybrush's age, surely. She's certainly naive and still finding her feet in life. Guybrush and Elaine seem to have a great partnership where they are both equally capable of commandeering and captaining ships and finding booty. Okay, Elaine treats Guybrush as if he's a little lacking in the hero department but she still married him which says something for her good taste, right?
Ten years of marriage says they are doing something right.
(Though there was a study recently that said that the average lifespan for a marriage that ends in divorce is 11 years...).
Spoilers for Episode 4 We needed to see why Elaine married Guybrush and this shows us why.
Episode 4 did a good job in showing several things.
2) Morgan felt guilty but not that guilty.
3) Elaine is in love with Guybrush
Chapter 4 gave Elaine what she needed. The pox seems to amplify negative traits. So the jealous flip-out and the anger at the abandonments.
The pain in her voice also helped after Guybrush's execution. And more importantly, looking to Guybrush for comfort when cured.
(Before you ask - yes, that's exactly what happened in my family...
np: Easy Star All-Stars - Exit Music (For A Dub) (Radiodread)
Mine too, it doesn't belong in a adventure/ family comedy game...:rolleyes:
The human race has gotten way too selfish.
I totally agree with you, that this affair/divorce kind of stuff doesn't belong into this sort of games. But your argumentation for itself lacks any reason.
When a relationship doesn't work anymore (of course after several attempts to "save" it), it's better to let go. (BUT that's not the case with Guybrush and Elaine in my opinion!)
So the "they are married for ten years and so they have to stay this way"-attitude is in a way more immature and unrealistic in my point of view.
Nah! It's just that it's stopped thinking that if it does selfish stuff it'll end up being poked in private areas by demons with tridents and hacksaws for all eternity.
If you don't scare a kid he'll do whatever he wants. Exactly the same on the macro-scale
Really, I blame Escape for people wanting to see Guybrush and Elaine broken up. That game pretty much assassinated her character by portraying her as an abusive and condescending b-word...
I didn't think she was that bad in EfMI...
She's pretty bad. They portrayed her as conceited and self-obsessed, though still capable. That whole bit at the start when they are about to arrive at Melee Island both her and Guybrush are acting really selfish and unlikable. That was one of the EMI criticisms that got washed away and semi-forgotten by the sea of
Elaine is most likely going to stay with Guybrush.
You're spoiler tagging for a nine year old game. wtf?
Speaking of spoilers,
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/GuruGuru214/NP-Monkey-1-1.jpg
http://i3.photobucket.com/albums/y99/GuruGuru214/NP-Monkey-2-1.jpg
Yes, I know the spoiler tags don't change the link text to white, so if you didn't view the spoiler, don't click the links.
While I do agree that I couldn't see Guybrush and Elaine splitting, I really do like Morgan a lot, and I'd really hate to see her finish the game empty-handed. Maybe she should look up Guybrush Q. Theepwood? You know, assuming he hasn't already hooked up with Elayne.
As a guy who grew up in a large conceited Catholic family (well you've got to be with so many people vying for affection & attention), I didn't mind that so much. Y'know, although I am far from being a defender of EfMI, some of these terrible plot-twists were talked about when the untarnishable Ron Gilbert was still the head-Pirate.
By far the worst thing for me was that Guybrush's expressions were stupid. I explained it all away in my head that he'd gotten into a fight with a botoxer on Lovely Island during his honeymoon... But now i'm getting off-topic.