IWWHIIWWHITOMIROTPG: The Game!

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  • edited December 2009
    I used to have a different alias on each site I registered on, and when I registered on civfanatics.com, I thought up the name apenpaap, which is Dutch for 'Pope of the apes'. I've been using it ever since.
  • edited December 2009
    Well, those are awesome stories :) But not as awesome as mine! Muahahaha! *modest pose*
  • edited December 2009
    Well, those are awesome stories :) But not as awesome as mine! Muahahaha! *modest pose*


    yeah, well my legend beat out that hi5 story.:p
  • edited December 2009
    Mine comes from Monkey Island as well. When I first met my boyfriend I wasn't into computer games at all, I thought they were all about shooting stuff. So when he asked me over for an evening of playing games at his place, I wasn't sure what to expect, but I went anyway. He introduced me to Monkey Island and I've been addicted to adventure games ever since. One of the characters in one of the MI games is El Pollo Diablo. It's a giant man eating chicken. And also a very very hot chicken dish. He said he thought the name fitted me. :D We've been married for fourteen years now ;)
  • edited December 2009
    I couldn't decide on a username for several years either, using both Queliziii and Zimmy alternately on whatever sites I joined... and at the time I was very into Neopets, and particularly loved a fanfiction writer who called herself child-dragon. I thought that was a cool name, so when I joined DeviantArt I copied it and called myself unicorn-foal. After that, I lost interest in Zimmy, as people seemed to think it meant I was an "Invador Zim" fan or something, and just stuck with Unicorn-foal. :D

    Of course, unlike most people here, I (usually) tried to be completely original with my usernames. No ridiculous 'pokelover' stuff for me. xD
  • edited December 2009
    Icedhope wrote: »
    yeah, well my legend beat out that hi5 story.:p

    Yep! Kudos to ya! :p
  • edited December 2009
    Yep! Kudos to ya! :p

    Oh YEAH! Ten more Kudos, and I get a free Mihai Awesome Thanks SWP.
  • edited December 2009
    Great game! (downloaded it days ago, got round to actually playing it today)

    I also got a lot more gameplay out of it than you'd expect because I was stupid enough to not realise you could walk off-screen. XD
  • edited December 2009
    OMG awesome!!! I'm so playing it right now!!! XD
  • edited December 2009
    I need help how do i collect the shromms (sorry for my bad english i am a little rusty at writing english) Anyway my username story is i used to played runescape And i wanted a name who was kinda like my name cause that awsome and i tried Eddiejo cause my names eddie johansson and sadly it did`nt work so they suggested eddiejo6 and i loved it and been stuck ever since.

    btw WINSLOW RULES :winslow:
  • edited December 2009
    Guybrush gives you a hint when you look at the mushrooms.
    "There's a little one too"
    To the right of the "mushrooms" there is a single mushroom.
  • edited December 2009
    Thx i think pixel hunting games are annoying
  • edited December 2009
    I'd hardly consider it a pixel hunt, but then again I'm the one who placed the thing...

    I did get quite a few complaints on it during the BETA which is why I added an extra line by Guybrush at the last minute. People seemed to feel that helped resolve the issue. I believe you're the first who's had a problem since that point.

    Sorry if it was still too difficult to make out. Glad you're playing though! :cool:
  • edited December 2009
    I'll never eat mushrooms again... o.O
  • edited December 2009
    T)homas
    B)enjamin
    M)oore
    1986 is my year of birth.

    @IcedHope: an Emo listening to Metal? :p

    Iced Earth = a more interesting cross between Iron Maiden, Megadeth, Dragonforce and Operatic Metal = WIN
  • edited December 2009
    Adorable little thing in the style of MI1 & 2! Brings back memories...
  • edited August 2010
    I'd hardly consider it a pixel hunt, but then again I'm the one who placed the thing...

    I did get quite a few complaints on it during the BETA which is why I added an extra line by Guybrush at the last minute. People seemed to feel that helped resolve the issue. I believe you're the first who's had a problem since that point.

    Im the second one, its really really really hard to find. Weel... nevermind. Great game! Congratulations! We want more!
  • edited August 2010
    Yeah, we do :D
  • edited August 2010
    I really liked this fan game, even if it was really short, I just loved the style. It was one of the most professional looking fan games I've ever seen. I, too, want more. Monkey_05_06?...
  • edited August 2010
    I really don't want to say anything that would incite too much hope..but I want more too. :rolleyes:
  • edited August 2010
    I really don't want to say anything that would incite too much hope..but I want more too. :rolleyes:

    Well, that's much more positive than hearing you say you DON'T want more. So, I'm afraid you have incited some hope :). Even if the games are bite-size like the last one was, it'll still be awesome. I understand that they'd still be a LOT of work, though.
  • edited August 2010
    Hayden wrote: »
    Even if the games are bite-size like the last one was, it'll still be awesome. I understand that they'd still be a LOT of work, though.

    You seem to be suggesting more games along the same fan-gamery nature as this one was. The only real concern I have with that idea is actually one that came up whilst developing this one: legality. When using copyrighted names/character personas such as Guybrush Threepwood, Elaine Marley, LeChuck, Morgan LeFlay, and Reginald van Winslow, copyrighted locations/titles such as Monkey Island™, Tales of Monkey Island, intellectual property of third parties such as "I Wonder What Happens In Tales of Monkey Island", etc. the legal concept of "fair use" becomes very legally hazy, which is never good when you're on the defending side of the argument.

    However, barring that, I see no reason why..erm..I've said too much. :rolleyes:

    Also, thanks muchly to all for the feedback. It's great that people are still dropping by to comment on this. I'm glad to see people's love of "the stupidest thing ever" as Ben304 (the artist) once put it. :)
  • edited August 2010
    I see no reason why it should be questionable if it is for free and for a fan project supporting the game
  • edited August 2010
    I see no reason why it should be questionable if it is for free and for a fan project supporting the game

    You obviously haven't done your research on recent MI fan games. I see no problem with it either, but it hasn't stopped LucasArts from ceasing and desisting close to a dozen significant fan projects.
  • edited August 2010
    Hayden wrote: »
    You obviously haven't done your research on recent MI fan games. I see no problem with it either, but it hasn't stopped LucasArts from ceasing and desisting close to a dozen significant fan projects.

    yeah, but lucasarts can go die in a hole.
  • edited August 2010
    yeah, but lucasarts can go die in a hole.

    Heh, that's just the sort of reply I'd expect from you. And I don't necessarily mean that in the bad way :).

    Anyway, you do share the same opinion as many. I hate the fact that LucasArts decided to stop so many fan projects in their tracks. And they've all been non-profit games as well; games made by fans for fans purely for enjoyment on both ends. It's not as though the games would have affected the company even in the slightest. It wouldn't affect sales, which means that there'd be no financial problems for LucasArts, and because the games are unofficial, they're not even affecting the canon or timeline in any way either. I dunno, LucasArts are the masters of proverbial wankery these days, so what should we expect?
  • edited August 2010
    Hayden wrote: »
    Heh, that's just the sort of reply I'd expect from you. And I don't necessarily mean that in the bad way :).

    Yep, I'm pretty anti-Lucasarts.
    And speak my mind.
  • edited August 2010
    Hayden wrote: »
    Heh, that's just the sort of reply I'd expect from you. And I don't necessarily mean that in the bad way :).

    Anyway, you do share the same opinion as many. I hate the fact that LucasArts decided to stop so many fan projects in their tracks. And they've all been non-profit games as well; games made by fans for fans purely for enjoyment on both ends. It's not as though the games would have affected the company even in the slightest. It wouldn't affect sales, which means that there'd be no financial problems for LucasArts, and because the games are unofficial, they're not even affecting the canon or timeline in any way either. I dunno, LucasArts are the masters of proverbial wankery these days, so what should we expect?

    You know, I've noticed TellTale is a lot milder with copyright and stuff then LucasArts, so I wonder if a fangame starring Winslow or Morgan or DeSinge would have a better chance of not being taken down.
  • edited August 2010
    apenpaap wrote: »
    You know, I've noticed TellTale is a lot milder with copyright and stuff then LucasArts, so I wonder if a fangame starring Winslow or Morgan or DeSinge would have a better chance of not being taken down.

    That's sort of what I've been thinking. I mean, they allowed the first IWWHIIWWHITOMI, so perhaps a few more may be allowed (as well as similar fan projects). It's still a risky thing, though. Especially seeing as how LucasArts still owns the license.

    Also: What's the maximum penalty infringing upon copyright laws if the fan game is non-profit. Is the 'cease & desist' order the worst that could happen? (There's probably no straight answer to this question, as there are too many factors involved, but I'll just ask anyway).

    Extra note: Oh, I also just realized that you only mentioned characters exclusively from Tales, meaning that they aren't owned by LucasArts. Or are they? Oh no, not this conversation/argument/debate again.
  • edited August 2010
    Hayden wrote: »
    That's sort of what I've been thinking. I mean, they allowed the first IWWHIIWWHITOMI, so perhaps a few more may be allowed (as well as similar fan projects). It's still a risky thing, though. Especially seeing as how LucasArts still owns the license.

    Also: What's the maximum penalty infringing upon copyright laws if the fan game is non-profit. Is the 'cease & desist' order the worst that could happen? (There's probably no straight answer to this question, as there are too many factors involved, but I'll just ask anyway).

    Extra note: Oh, I also just realized that you only mentioned characters exclusively from Tales, meaning that they aren't owned by LucasArts. Or are they? Oh no, not this conversation/argument/debate again.

    I think this is true, but the cease & desist manoeuvre can still be used if you use any character, location or item created by LucasArts.
  • edited August 2010
    The worst that LA could do to a nonprofit fan game project would be ultimately to file legal suite for copyright infringement. Digital copyright laws in the US include nonprofit infringement.

    However, if the files were not publicly distributed (i.e., during development) then a C&D would likely be the most they could get away with. Of course, they can afford a much fancier lawyer (Stan!! :cool:) than I can, so if they really ever wanted to press the issue, they probably would. Not necessarily that they would have a legitimate case, but they could tie it up in so much legal red tape that it would financially ruin me for life. :D

    That is being a bit overly dramatic. If such a project were ever started and LA were to C&D it, development would be stopped instantaneously. I'm not one to try my luck on that front. I may consider trying to negotiate afterward, but development would be stopped until further notice.

    As for TTG being more lenient, yes, they allowed this game, but don't forget that they C&D'd the ToMI 2D project. Even TTG has their limits on what they consider acceptable. One-time usage of their characters, referencing their storyline is apparently okay (in this particular instance); continuous usage of their copyrighted materials may not prove to be so.

    Just some thoughts. Copyright is a very fickle thing at times, largely depending on arbitrary decisions whether it is acceptable or not. Lots of gray area.
  • edited September 2010
    I wouldn't want to give anyone the wrong idea, and I refuse to provide any further details than this, but I sent an email which by now is hopefully being reviewed by TTG's legal department. They haven't yet responded, which I want to believe just means they're developing an awesome legally binding response which will take centuries to draft, millenia to proof, and eons thereafter to print..I mean..wait, what? :eek:

    If anyone asks directly about this post, there's a good chance I might blatantly deny everything contained therein, and indeed the post itself. Especially the last two statements (inclusively). :cool:
  • edited October 2010
    I just had a thought. What if you were to create the fan game that you intend to make, but just change the names of all of the copyrighted characters and locations? That's what the team making 'Monkey Island: The Lost Years' resorted to in order to avoid infringement (the project now being called 'Picaroon: The Lost Years'). So what if you were to do the same? The names may not even need to be changed that much: 'Guybrusch Threepwhood', 'Skabb Island'... or perhaps that may still be getting a little too close for comfort. The names may need to be changed more to avoid infringement of any kind.

    Or do you think that, if names were to be changed, that it would detract from the final product and make the games seem too distant from the MI series almost to the point that they wouldn't feel like fan games anymore? Or could you see it working?

    Hmm... either way, though, it's still a risk.

    Damn it, it would just be nice if all of this legal bullcrap didn't have to interfere and get in the way of innocent, harmless projects (I'm referring to all of the fan projects that have been ceased & desisted in the past, not just this potential project - which doesn't actually exist in any physical form as of yet). It's quite frustrating, really.
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