Original vs Remake Guybrush Threepwood design
Hey, decided to make a comparision of Guybrush's character designs. I kinda get the impression that the new character design for monkey island 2 remake shows signs that they're trying to link it to the curses look.
p.s don't ask why escape isn't in the timeline :cool:
p.s don't ask why escape isn't in the timeline :cool:
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Sorry i just can't stand escape and i feel it serves no real purpose to the series it could easily be left out.
Fixed.
Actually, I like SMI:SE's Guybrush less then EMI Guybrush.
ouch your a bit of an arse
I just see Escape like Rocky 5 where the sequel to it goes out of its way not to reference or aknowledge it.
the escape model looks so out of place inbetween curse and tales models.
You can tell with the tales model it was far influenced by curse and revenge and they went out their way to avoid influence from escape.
I like EMI.
The kind of guy you'd beat up at school.
I kinda like it, though it's one of my least favorite ones.
Always found that strange. Sex almost always comes with legs included.
Yeah, it's almost like saying "a car on wheels".
Hmm..I must have just imagined the references that were present in ToMI then..
Though I don't see where you come off calling me an "arse" just for pointing out the obvious fact that you are denying reality. You yourself admitted to this fact when you said:
Just because you personally feel that "it could easily be left out" does not mean it didn't happen. EFMI is there, like it or not. It happened. It's real, it's official, it's licensed canon. Beyond that it's not even as bad as you all try to make it out to be.
I accept some people don't like the game. I don't expect everyone to agree with me. But denying the existence of EFMI in any form, even if it's just pretending it's not there, is a denial of reality.
I honestly don't see where you get this impression that they "went out of their way" to make sure that the Tales model bore no resemblance to the Escape model. The Escape model was much more realistically proportioned than the Curse model. I mean in Curse his nose is half the size of his torso, his ankles are as wide as just two of his fingers, etc., etc. The Escape model albeit created with an extremely, glaringly low polygon count, at least aimed at a more realistically proportionate figure.
So, no, I can't tell that TTG "went out of their way" to avoid looking like the EFMI model. I just can't see it.
I'm really not trying to be on the offensive here, but I simply pointed out how you were denying the existence of EFMI and you go on and call me an "arse". So hopefully from here we can at least pretend to be mature enough to discuss each other's opinions without name-calling.
Edit: Why is it that amputees are excluded from sexual relations? Discrimination much?
Dude just leave me alone
It was the way you wrote your comment that upset me as you made me sound pathetic and weak-minded for not accepting the truth. Okay then, Escape happened. What do i gain from that slice of truth?
It was wrong of me to call you an arse.
Look into his eyes and tell me you still don't like Escape Guybrush.
He loves you.
he looks freaking scary, the big-eyed plonker.
It was something like "He's...He's...like a branch!" :eek:
Now, I'm much more "open minded" to design changes of Gb's model.
Low poly > Creepy hair.
thoes are come to bed with me eyes
You can't choose to ignore an event regardless of your opinion of it. I'm sure the British didn't like it when the American's gained their independence, does that mean that they can simply ignore that it happened and consider America to still be colonies? That's what bothers the EMI fans. We accept the fact that most people don't like it at all and in some cases flat out hate it, but to ignore its existence when referring to the history of Monkey Island is just wrong because it does exist regardless of its quality.
People can ignore any piece of fiction they want. Ignoring country borders, laws and international politics, on the other hand, is a bit more troublesome.
Ok, so clearly I used a much more extreme example, but I think my point still stands. It's simply foolish to act like it doesn't exist. Complain about it and diss it all you want but acting like it doesn't exist is just foolish.
Also, I will use another example. Say I don't like Empire Strikes Back (I do, so no flames) and choose to ignore it. Does that mean that I can ignore the fact that Vader is Luke's father?
It doesn't offend me, upset me, "off-put" me, or otherwise that people feel differently about EFMI than I do. What does upset me is that people pretend that things which actually physically, tangibly exist do not.
Would you be upset if I pretended that dogs don't exist? Or maybe I just don't like German Shepherds..so in every discussion about dogs I tell people, "Let's keep German Shepherds out of this, okay?"
It's the exact same mentality.
If people feel like they get more enjoyment out of the Monkey Island games by ignoring EMI-established facts like the monkey head being a robot and Herman Toothrot being the long-lost governor of Melee Island, then why not let them? It's absolutely possible to play, say, Monkey Island 1 without taking into consideration the retcons and changes in fiction that EMI established.
Sure, you can watch A New Hope and completely disregard any family relation betwen Luke, Leia and Vader, if you wish. It's all fiction. Let people enjoy it the way they want.
If you want to ignore it because you enjoy the games more that way then that's fine, but making a post about the history of the Guybrush model and saying "we're just going to leave EMI out" just doesn't make sense.
But Bagge, the issue here isn't really "whether or not someone likes and personally accepts EFMI and its canon" so much as "people are openly and blatantly going around implying, suggesting, and stating that EFMI does not exist at all." There is a difference.
That's the second stupidest piece of bullshit I've ever heard. Okay, sure, you can ignore it, but you can't deny it's existence. That's a sad battle against reality.
Star Wars, on the other hand, is very different. The revelation that Vader is Luke's father is privotal the the narrative, and watching Return of the Jedi while denying this part of the narrative makes no sense.
Who cares? It seems you're just taking it personal that someone has a different opinion than yourself.
Since when has existence been left up to someone's opinion?
Nobody ever made a factual claim that Escape from Monkey Island was never created - they're pretending it never happened - ie. ignoring it. There's a difference.
More bullshit. It doesn't matter if it's a "factual claim", it's still a claim. You're right about it not being factual.
Edit: For those who don't recognize it, which I imagine will be most of you who are busy ignoring the existence of EFMI..this post was brought to you today by our special friend:
Wow, I stepped on your toes, it seems. It makes all the difference. If someone claimed EMI was never created, that would be factually wrong, and a very dumb statement. On the other hand, ignoring it's exsitence or pretending it was never made, is not right or wrong, but a manner of opinion.
Difference?