Original vs Remake Guybrush Threepwood design

Hey, decided to make a comparision of Guybrush's character designs. I kinda get the impression that the new character design for monkey island 2 remake shows signs that they're trying to link it to the curses look.

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p.s don't ask why escape isn't in the timeline :cool:
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  • edited March 2010
    Why isn't Escape in the timeline?
  • edited March 2010
    Hey, I noticed that Escape isn't in this timeline. Why have you chosen to exclude that game from your progressive evolution of Guybrush?
  • edited March 2010
    Presumably this must be one of the EFMI haters, i.e. someone who is in blatant denial of reality. Accepting the existence of the game is not synonymous with liking it y'know..
  • edited March 2010
    no harm in doing so really. Star wars fans have got enough on their plate to be on denial about.

    Sorry i just can't stand escape and i feel it serves no real purpose to the series it could easily be left out.
  • edited March 2010
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    Fixed. :D
    Actually, I like SMI:SE's Guybrush less then EMI Guybrush.
  • edited March 2010
    Presumably this must be one of the EFMI haters, i.e. someone who is in blatant denial of reality. Accepting the existence of the game is not synonymous with liking it y'know..

    :( ouch your a bit of an arse

    I just see Escape like Rocky 5 where the sequel to it goes out of its way not to reference or aknowledge it.
  • edited March 2010
    Joop wrote: »
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    Fixed. :D
    Actually, I like SMI:SE's Guybrush less then EMI Guybrush.

    the escape model looks so out of place inbetween curse and tales models.

    You can tell with the tales model it was far influenced by curse and revenge and they went out their way to avoid influence from escape.
  • edited March 2010
    Escape's Guybrush is a handsome beast. Which is why the design is completely wrong, as Guybrush should look ugly and lanky. ;)
  • edited March 2010
    I liked EMI Guybrush
  • edited March 2010
    I liked EMI Guybrush

    I like EMI.
  • edited March 2010
    He doesn't look handsome. He looks like a big softy.
    The kind of guy you'd beat up at school.
    I kinda like it, though it's one of my least favorite ones.
  • edited March 2010
    guybrush is sex on legs in all his versions
  • edited March 2010
    guybrush is sex on legs in all his versions

    Always found that strange. Sex almost always comes with legs included.
  • edited March 2010
    Always found that strange. Sex almost always comes with legs included.

    Yeah, it's almost like saying "a car on wheels".
  • edited March 2010
    :( ouch your a bit of an arse

    I just see Escape like Rocky 5 where the sequel to it goes out of its way not to reference or aknowledge it.

    Hmm..I must have just imagined the references that were present in ToMI then..

    Though I don't see where you come off calling me an "arse" just for pointing out the obvious fact that you are denying reality. You yourself admitted to this fact when you said:
    no harm in doing so really...Sorry i just can't stand escape and i feel it serves no real purpose to the series it could easily be left out.

    Just because you personally feel that "it could easily be left out" does not mean it didn't happen. EFMI is there, like it or not. It happened. It's real, it's official, it's licensed canon. Beyond that it's not even as bad as you all try to make it out to be.

    I accept some people don't like the game. I don't expect everyone to agree with me. But denying the existence of EFMI in any form, even if it's just pretending it's not there, is a denial of reality.
    the escape model looks so out of place inbetween curse and tales models.

    You can tell with the tales model it was far influenced by curse and revenge and they went out their way to avoid influence from escape.

    I honestly don't see where you get this impression that they "went out of their way" to make sure that the Tales model bore no resemblance to the Escape model. The Escape model was much more realistically proportioned than the Curse model. I mean in Curse his nose is half the size of his torso, his ankles are as wide as just two of his fingers, etc., etc. The Escape model albeit created with an extremely, glaringly low polygon count, at least aimed at a more realistically proportionate figure.

    So, no, I can't tell that TTG "went out of their way" to avoid looking like the EFMI model. I just can't see it.

    I'm really not trying to be on the offensive here, but I simply pointed out how you were denying the existence of EFMI and you go on and call me an "arse". So hopefully from here we can at least pretend to be mature enough to discuss each other's opinions without name-calling.

    Edit: Why is it that amputees are excluded from sexual relations? Discrimination much?
  • edited March 2010
    Hmm..I must have just imagined the references that were present in ToMI then..

    Though I don't see where you come off calling me an "arse" just for pointing out the obvious fact that you are denying reality. You yourself admitted to this fact when you said:



    Just because you personally feel that "it could easily be left out" does not mean it didn't happen. EFMI is there, like it or not. It happened. It's real, it's official, it's licensed canon. Beyond that it's not even as bad as you all try to make it out to be.

    I accept some people don't like the game. I don't expect everyone to agree with me. But denying the existence of EFMI in any form, even if it's just pretending it's not there, is a denial of reality.



    I honestly don't see where you get this impression that they "went out of their way" to make sure that the Tales model bore no resemblance to the Escape model. The Escape model was much more realistically proportioned than the Curse model. I mean in Curse his nose is half the size of his torso, his ankles are as wide as just two of his fingers, etc., etc. The Escape model albeit created with an extremely, glaringly low polygon count, at least aimed at a more realistically proportionate figure.

    So, no, I can't tell that TTG "went out of their way" to avoid looking like the EFMI model. I just can't see it.

    I'm really not trying to be on the offensive here, but I simply pointed out how you were denying the existence of EFMI and you go on and call me an "arse". So hopefully from here we can at least pretend to be mature enough to discuss each other's opinions without name-calling.

    Dude just leave me alone

    It was the way you wrote your comment that upset me as you made me sound pathetic and weak-minded for not accepting the truth. Okay then, Escape happened. What do i gain from that slice of truth?

    It was wrong of me to call you an arse.
  • edited March 2010
    I really enjoyed EMI, but it still feels out of place in the series in my opinion. I'd be happy calling it non-canon, but that doesn't mean I didn't enjoy it.
  • edited March 2010
    Sorry i just can't stand escape and i feel it serves no real purpose to the series it could easily be left out.

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    Look into his eyes and tell me you still don't like Escape Guybrush.
    He loves you.
  • edited March 2010
    Joop wrote: »
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    Look into his eyes and tell me you still don't like Escape Guybrush.
    He loves you.

    he looks freaking scary, the big-eyed plonker.
  • edited March 2010
    My avatar is offended by this thread. But in all honesty, I don't think that ToMI's Guybrush was influenced at all by CoMI. And truth be told, when I first saw ToMI's Guybrush I thought that he showed the least resemblance to the other Guybrushes. However, when I finally saw him in animation (as well as with Dom's voice) I was pleasantly surprised to find that he fell right in line.
  • edited March 2010
    It took me almost two years to get accustomed to the model from the Curse.
    It was something like "He's...He's...like a branch!" :eek:

    Now, I'm much more "open minded" to design changes of Gb's model.
  • edited March 2010
    It took me almost two years to get accustomed to the model from the Curse.
    It was something like "He's...He's...like a branch!" :eek:

    Now, I'm much more "open minded" to design changes of Gb's model.
    I'm still put off by Curse's design, myself. I think the EMI model is kind of going in a fairly different direction from both of those, and the Tales model seems to sort of normalize the Curse ideas and adds in enough Revenge ideas that I kind of liked it. Maybe I'm more used to the idea of Guybrush as a twig, though.
  • edited March 2010
    Joop wrote: »
    Actually, I like SMI:SE's Guybrush less then EMI Guybrush.
    Doesn't take much anyway.

    Low poly > Creepy hair.
  • edited March 2010
    Joop wrote: »
    EMILauncher.png
    Look into his eyes and tell me you still don't like Escape Guybrush.
    He loves you.

    thoes are come to bed with me eyes
  • edited March 2010
    I still wonder why EMI fans berate other people for choosing to ignore its existence. Different opinions? Why I never!
  • edited March 2010
    PecanBlue wrote: »
    I still wonder why EMI fans berate other people for choosing to ignore its existence. Different opinions? Why I never!

    You can't choose to ignore an event regardless of your opinion of it. I'm sure the British didn't like it when the American's gained their independence, does that mean that they can simply ignore that it happened and consider America to still be colonies? That's what bothers the EMI fans. We accept the fact that most people don't like it at all and in some cases flat out hate it, but to ignore its existence when referring to the history of Monkey Island is just wrong because it does exist regardless of its quality.
  • edited March 2010
    plrichard wrote: »
    You can't choose to ignore an event regardless of your opinion of it. I'm sure the British didn't like it when the American's gained their independence, does that mean that they can simply ignore that it happened and consider America to still be colonies? That's what bothers the EMI fans. We accept the fact that most people don't like it at all and in some cases flat out hate it, but to ignore its existence when referring to the history of Monkey Island is just wrong because it does exist regardless of its quality.

    People can ignore any piece of fiction they want. Ignoring country borders, laws and international politics, on the other hand, is a bit more troublesome.
  • edited March 2010
    Bagge wrote: »
    People can ignore any piece of fiction they want. Ignoring country borders, laws and international politics, on the other hand, is a bit more troublesome.

    Ok, so clearly I used a much more extreme example, but I think my point still stands. It's simply foolish to act like it doesn't exist. Complain about it and diss it all you want but acting like it doesn't exist is just foolish.

    Also, I will use another example. Say I don't like Empire Strikes Back (I do, so no flames) and choose to ignore it. Does that mean that I can ignore the fact that Vader is Luke's father?
  • edited March 2010
    plrichard I am really starting to like you. Exactly what he said.

    It doesn't offend me, upset me, "off-put" me, or otherwise that people feel differently about EFMI than I do. What does upset me is that people pretend that things which actually physically, tangibly exist do not.

    Would you be upset if I pretended that dogs don't exist? Or maybe I just don't like German Shepherds..so in every discussion about dogs I tell people, "Let's keep German Shepherds out of this, okay?"

    It's the exact same mentality.
  • edited March 2010
    plrichard wrote: »
    Ok, so clearly I used a much more extreme example, but I think my point still stands. It's simply foolish to act like it doesn't exist. Complain about it and diss it all you want but acting like it doesn't exist is just foolish.

    If people feel like they get more enjoyment out of the Monkey Island games by ignoring EMI-established facts like the monkey head being a robot and Herman Toothrot being the long-lost governor of Melee Island, then why not let them? It's absolutely possible to play, say, Monkey Island 1 without taking into consideration the retcons and changes in fiction that EMI established.
    Also, I will use another example. Say I don't like Empire Strikes Back (I do, so no flames) and choose to ignore it. Does that mean that I can ignore the fact that Vader is Luke's father?

    Sure, you can watch A New Hope and completely disregard any family relation betwen Luke, Leia and Vader, if you wish. It's all fiction. Let people enjoy it the way they want.
  • edited March 2010
    Bagge wrote: »
    If people feel like they get more enjoyment out of the Monkey Island games by ignoring EMI-established facts like the monkey head being a robot and Herman Toothrot being the long-lost governor of Melee Island, then why not let them? It's absolutely possible to play, say, Monkey Island 1 without taking into consideration the retcons and changes in fiction that EMI established.

    If you want to ignore it because you enjoy the games more that way then that's fine, but making a post about the history of the Guybrush model and saying "we're just going to leave EMI out" just doesn't make sense.
  • edited March 2010
    @Bagge: I like the way that you are suggesting that only the prior canon is acceptable if any piece of the latter canon is rejected. Based on this line of thinking, anyone who rejects EFMI must therefore logically reject ToMI as part of the series as well.

    But Bagge, the issue here isn't really "whether or not someone likes and personally accepts EFMI and its canon" so much as "people are openly and blatantly going around implying, suggesting, and stating that EFMI does not exist at all." There is a difference.
  • edited March 2010
    Bagge wrote: »
    People can ignore any piece of fiction they want.

    That's the second stupidest piece of bullshit I've ever heard. Okay, sure, you can ignore it, but you can't deny it's existence. That's a sad battle against reality.
  • edited March 2010
    @Bagge: I like the way that you are suggesting that only the prior canon is acceptable if any piece of the latter canon is rejected. Based on this line of thinking, anyone who rejects EFMI must therefore logically reject ToMI as part of the series as well.
    Thanks for liking it, but you're way off. TMI deliberately put some narrative space between itself and EMI and avoided basing any story elements on the fiction it established. For almost all intents and purposes, TMI could just as well have followed CMI.

    Star Wars, on the other hand, is very different. The revelation that Vader is Luke's father is privotal the the narrative, and watching Return of the Jedi while denying this part of the narrative makes no sense.
    But Bagge, the issue here isn't really "whether or not someone likes and personally accepts EFMI and its canon" so much as "people are openly and blatantly going around implying, suggesting, and stating that EFMI does not exist at all." There is a difference.

    Who cares? It seems you're just taking it personal that someone has a different opinion than yourself.
  • edited March 2010
    Bagge wrote: »
    Who cares? It seems you're just taking it personal that someone has a different opinion than yourself.

    Since when has existence been left up to someone's opinion?
  • edited March 2010
    That's the second stupidest piece of bullshit I've ever heard. Okay, sure, you can ignore it, but you can't deny it's existence. That's a sad battle against reality.
    plrichard wrote: »
    Since when has existence been left up to someone's opinion?


    Nobody ever made a factual claim that Escape from Monkey Island was never created - they're pretending it never happened - ie. ignoring it. There's a difference.
  • edited March 2010
    Bagge wrote: »
    Nobody ever made a factual claim that Escape from Monkey Island was never created - they're pretending it never happened - ie. ignoring it. There's a difference.

    More bullshit. It doesn't matter if it's a "factual claim", it's still a claim. You're right about it not being factual.
  • edited March 2010
    Yes well while they're busy ignoring EFMI I'll be over here ignoring German Shepherds. Good thing for me too. Works quite well. I never have to deal with drug dogs, and when I play Call of Duty I'm completely invulnerable against your special attacks.

    Edit: For those who don't recognize it, which I imagine will be most of you who are busy ignoring the existence of EFMI..this post was brought to you today by our special friend:
    satire
  • edited March 2010
    More bullshit. It doesn't matter if it's a "factual claim", it's still a claim. You're right about it not being factual.

    Wow, I stepped on your toes, it seems. It makes all the difference. If someone claimed EMI was never created, that would be factually wrong, and a very dumb statement. On the other hand, ignoring it's exsitence or pretending it was never made, is not right or wrong, but a manner of opinion.
  • edited March 2010
    Bagge wrote: »
    -If someone claimed EMI was never created, that would be factually wrong, and a very dumb statement - On the other hand, ignoring it's exsitence or pretending it was never made-

    Difference?
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