If you take this challenge, do not lie, do not exaggerate, and do not tell half-truths once you are done watching. You have been warned.
I didn't do any of those things. I was, however, bouncing my knee before the song started, I continued to bounce it while the song was playing, I continued bouncing it after the song ended, and I'm bouncing it right now.
I didn't do any of those things. I was, however, bouncing my knee before the song started, I continued to bounce it while the song was playing, I continued bouncing it after the song ended, and I'm bouncing it right now.
Nooooo!
I had a friend that did that all the time.
It got so annoying in the end, that I actually started to attack his leg to try to get it to stop!
That's a taboo in Taiwanese culture. For some reason they think that if you're a man and you do it, you're an ingrate gambler, and if you're a woman and you do it you're a whore.
Some people can be so pretentious. *Sighs*, they read people based on patterns and try to falsify everyone else who can't fit into their patterns. Or they only see the version of the truth they want to see when judging, analyzing people...
Some people can be so pretentious. *Sighs*, they read people based on patterns and try to falsify everyone else who can't fit into their patterns. Or they only see the version of the truth they want to see when judging, analyzing people...
That paragraph in itself sounds a little pretentious You post videos to gory stuff, therefore people think you like weird, gory stuff - pretty logical conclusion to me.
That paragraph in itself sounds a little pretentious You post videos to gory stuff, therefore people think you like weird, gory stuff - pretty logical conclusion to me.
Here we go...
Well, I did ask for it, or did I? I was stating my personal opinion, you took it as a personal statement towards you in some art as you took the time to reply with subjectivity.
It's not that simple, narrow minded, gory stuff is not gory stuff, it's something different to different people. It's not weird to me. I wouldn't say logic has much to do with this, it's simply human and socially constructed.
Logic, mathematical, proofs, etc etc can prove human patterns, suggest, imply human patterns, but logic does not serve as a recipe, formula what an individual does, ultimately. That's social conditioning, not logic, it's what's expected of others, what's "normal", is it not? You, with your "weird"?
Well, I did ask for it, or did I? I was stating my personal opinion, you took it as a personal statement towards you in some art as you took the time to reply with subjectivity.
It's not that simple, narrow minded, gory stuff is not gory stuff, it's something different to different people. It's not weird to me. I wouldn't say logic has much to do with this, it's simply human and socially constructed.
Logic, mathematical, proofs, etc etc can prove human patterns, suggest, imply human patterns, but logic does not serve as a recipe, formula what an individual does, ultimately. That's social conditioning, not logic, it's what's expected of others, what's "normal", is it not? You, with your "weird"?
Metal music to me is a art form.
You've totally latched onto one word in my message and completely missed the point. The point I was making is that you seem to look down people when they judge you for what you do - which of course people are going to do. How else are humans supposed to determine characteristic/personalities/etc. then by the actions of other humans? People have to base their opinions of others in some way, otherwise they just wouldn't have opinions at all. Maybe the way you act outside these forums is different you how you act within them, but how would we know? We never see that.
I personally don't mind gory stuff, each to their own - but that's not what I was saying. And also why bring metal in? Great that you like it, but again, it's not what I was saying.
You've totally latched onto one word in my message and completely missed the point. The point I was making is that you seem to look down people when they judge you for what you do - which of course people are going to do. How else are humans supposed to determine characteristic/personalities/etc. then by the actions of other humans? People have to base their opinions of others in some way, otherwise they just wouldn't have opinions at all. Maybe the way you act outside these forums is different you how you act within them, but how would we know? We never see that.
I personally don't mind gory stuff, each to their own - but that's not what I was saying. And also why bring metal in? Great that you like it, but again, it's not what I was saying.
But you're wrong, you're socially conditioned into the beliefs of the obvious observations of human kind, how you must process information.
You're attached to the strong roots of which are planted under your feet for you to grow.
Ok...
People have limited observations, and they view them subjectively, and the process of labeling things objectively is often done prematurely and subjectively and how we view the process of subjectivity is subjective.
Everyone, most of everyone, is conditioned to make opinions, it's a natural process of ego, conflict so that they can build their selves and compare, relate to others...when in fact, the truth most people are blind to is that you don't know most people, truly, until you've been their friend.
Even then, you won't know most people truly...
Take people you have lots in common with, implied obvious truth, now do you view your similarities, similarly? How do you know if you do?
It's all socially constructed, information, character, individualism, we assume that things must work one way or another because we're responding to a system of information that raises us, forms us, educates us.
We respond to the structure of idea, concept, when in fact most ideas and concepts can be challenged, or at least abstracted.
People are conditioned only socially to draw conclusions about others, to seek out friendships, to seek out individualism, to seek out these things.
The simple concept of reserving your opinions, thinking in multiple perspectives has never been conditioned into most people. Everyone wants people to be a certain way, even if they don't realize it, that way they can easily be their selves and try to work into their lives a way to fit in, and when they don't fit in they get frustrated and angry. Often people are ignorant, judgmental, don't really know people.
There's people they could be friends with, fit in with, if they didn't draw conclusions, stereotype, generalize people.
But, let's be realistic, look around you, racism, sexism...etc etc, it's in the roots of your nature.
People are just asking questions, really, because they really don't know. Yet they act as if they do. Reality is complex and beautiful, people emotionally, physically, psychologically experience it far more uniquely than most of the average, generic, person opens his/ her eyes to.
Why bring up metal? I don't know, maybe because it's in all the videos I've posted and people keep talking about the videos...That is if you consider it metal, socially, it's often thought of as that.
People have limited observations, and they view them subjectively, and the process of labeling things objectively is often done prematurely and subjectively and how we view subjectivity is subjective.
Everyone, most of everyone, is conditioned to make opinions, it's a natural process of ego, conflict so that they can build their selves and compare, relate to others...when in fact, the truth most people are blind to is that you don't know most people, truly, until you've been their friend.
First off, that top sentence was a fun one :P
Second, I agree that making judgements doesn't mean you know a person - of course it doesn't. I'm just saying that people probably will base their views on you by what they see of you - because as you said, it's in their nature. It's not the ideal way of going about things and you can't claim to know a person by that but it is what people will do, because they have no source to base their views on other that what's in front of them, anything else is just speculation. Again it's not ideal but it's just how the majority of people seek out other, like-minded people to make friends with Or adversely to not get attached to.
Second, I agree that making judgements doesn't mean you know a person - of course it doesn't. I'm just saying that people probably will base their views on you by what they see of you - because as you said, it's in their nature. It's not the ideal way of going about things and you can't claim to know a person by that but it is what people will do, because they have no source to base their views on other that what's in front of them, anything else is just speculation. Again it's not ideal but it's just how the majority of people seek out other, like-minded people to make friends with Or adversely to not get attached to.
I don't have a problem with speculation, personally. Some one is entitled to pick the thing that's most likely true, at least as a truth they perceive in their reality where their psyche is socially functional, when gathered to that truth as perceived , when clear and functional within what they perceive as their versions of reality for a sense of security, cohesion.
The mind is sort of fluid , but it's also lucid, you have a subconscious.
People don't reserve their opinions because they don't care to take the time to be confused, wonder about other people. It's most likely that simple. They just don't care that much. They just want to be fluid, remain inside their own heads, don't want to mess around with the perspectives of others. They don't care.
So they take what's most likely true to them, which may even appear to be obvious, objective, as long as it's cohesive and coherent to their own psyches and how they subjectively view their own psyches.
I wouldn't know, I don't make "friends" anymore and people don't make "friends" with me. As I see it.
Though that's merely a segment of the mind, of observation of reality, just a vivid picture, focus, still frame of what's going on. Yet I'm quick to label, judge my reality and say these things. When in fact, within the duration of the ultimate process of intellectualizing these things, something might be lost. Maybe, just maybe, people do perceive that they try to be my friend and they do perceive that I perceive they do and yet don't acknowledge that...there's a million possibilities.
Alright I'll admit, I'm a little bit confused now, but let's see if I can keep up :P
Although it's true that people will often skip to the first conclusion that pops into their heads, it's true that that's often the best thing to do. Yes, it's not the ideal in terms of discovering what a person's truely like, but on an everday, social level we simply don't have the time or the energy to look at every single person we meet through every single possible viewpoint. Instead we take the information we have and make quick, highly simplified decisions on it. After taking that first step in which you decide 'I like/dislike/am neutral towards this person' you go to the next one in which you devote more time in an effort to find out what they really are like. You might not ever know every facet of their personality but this is where you begin to put the effort in.
If you've decided you don't like a person you'll most likely decide you don't want to make the effort to learn more about, which, although it can be a mistake in the long-run, is the simplest way of communicating with people on an everyday normal level.
Hopefully I actually got the point of your last post lol :P
Alright I'll admit, I'm a little bit confused now, but let's see if I can keep up :P
Although it's true that people will often skip to the first conclusion that pops into their heads, it's true that that's often the best thing to do. Yes, it's not the ideal in terms of discovering what a person's truely like, but on an everday, social level we simply don't have the time or the energy to look at every single person we meet through every single possible viewpoint. Instead we take the information we have and make quick, highly simplified decisions on it. After taking that first step in which you decide 'I like/dislike/am neutral towards this person' you go to the next one in which you devote more time in an effort to find out what they really are like. You might not ever know every facet of their personality but this is where you begin to put the effort in.
If you've decided you don't like a person you'll most likely decide you don't want to make the effort to learn more about, which, although it can be a mistake in the long-run, is the simplest way of communicating with people on an everyday normal level.
Hopefully I actually got the point of your last post lol :P
Yes.:)
Don't worry, I believe that it is I who is "confused". They label me all the time. Call me names, tell me I need professional help. You fit the social norms, it is I who am confused. Some how you've managed to see things differently, but it is I who is "confused". Am I not? Let people say what they will.
Don't worry, I believe that it is I who is "confused". They label me all the time. Call me names, tell me I need professional help. You fit the social norms, it is I who am confused. Some how you've managed to see things differently, but it is I who is "confused". Am I not? Let people say what they will.
Well, there's not really any excuse for that - but are you sure sometimes when people mention professional help it's not just concern? It just seems (from my point of view anyway) that you're quite prone to becoming very emotionally involved with things, so when something bad happens you're prone to dark moods. I think sometimes people just worry about you unless something affects to the point that'll it'll effect you negatively
As for name-calling there's not really any need, that's just childish and doesn't help anything - but I wouldn't worry too much about it, everyone gets that sometimes
Well, there's not really any excuse for that - but are you sure sometimes when people mention professional help it's not just concern? It just seems (from my point of view anyway) that you're quite prone to becoming very emotionally involved with things, so when something bad happens you're prone to dark moods. I think sometimes people just worry about you unless something affects to the point that'll it'll effect you negatively
As for name-calling there's not really any need, that's just childish and doesn't help anything - but I wouldn't worry too much about it, everyone gets that sometimes
You're right but you're seeing it at a certain point, things evolve, change in the mind. At some point I feel and think one way and then another. Subjective information is human. Haha, trial and error and things change.
Ever hear, you were going strong then you fell off the page? That sort of thing before? It's a soup of the world around you, people, places, things...
I like my"dark" side. Now, you're right as you perceive these things objectively in your version of reality. These dark things, moods, I'm attracted to these things.
In my subconscious subjective reasons may attract me towards these "dark" things but consciously I only have a subjective opinion why I subjectively am attracted towards these things. We have false truths, we have denial. We have uncertainty. I assure you if we all understood ourselves, truly, we'd all be happy.
Perhaps I'm always emotionally invested, at a certain point it only becomes obvious because I now socially act out here on a forum.
There is a process in our minds, what's socially functional, our vocabulary, our educations, our up bringing, our pasts, our futures, where we choose our words and ideas that revolve around our psyches and subjective consciousnesses to express our selves "subjectively"...
So, tell me, am I insane? Do I romance things? I'll tell you that I'm not sure anymore. ?Had I a sense that I was insane or sane, I'd likely at least be functional in some way. I'd have the life experience to truly judge myself, but I don't and I don't really function in a way that lets me gather these experiences.
Am I confused? The mind is fluid but the subconscious is lucid.
Fair do's - just didn't want you to think people were having a go at you when they were just worried
Who's worried for me? To worry for some one is to be in denial. That person is the way they are to begin with.
For example, say I am self acclaimed insane.
Ok, then. I'm in denial that I'm imperfect, human, and I'm labeling myself so that I fit into the social architecture, constructs to relate to others and perhaps go into the process of others helping me. BUT I'm convinced I'm insane.
Truth is that I'm messed up, or have problems like every one else in this case, but I'm not TRULY willing to admit that. That's why they say the first step to solving such problems is admitting you have a problem.
Truth is that I'm in denial that this is who I am as a person, I desire for more, I fantasize about being more, a better person. I'm human, the world is incomplete, imperfect. This is the real me, I have to deal with that and admit there is a problem, but THAT IS NOT the same thing as admitting to a label now is it?
Slipping behind labels is not the same thing as coming face to face with the ugly truth, that is by far a obvious statement and in this context this sentence may make sense to you...
Now, people are worried for me? For me to accept this, owe up to this, I'd only begin to romanticize, search out for non related issues, out side issues of myself. People can learn to know me better, judge me as they do, as they are human. But this petty worry only leads to the superficiality of identity crises, professional help, others personal gain.
You don't face a problem standing backwards.
People are ignorant to worry for me, they only go off of what's socially norm, or superficial.
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White Knuckles.
If you take this challenge, do not lie, do not exaggerate, and do not tell half-truths once you are done watching. You have been warned.
You know what, dude, I'm not going to lie....
...and I'm not going to tell you the outcome either.
Same for me.
Anyone want to take it? It's a certain YouTube video I helped with.....
Do we have a taker for this Challenge? I'm probably not as demented as you, but I can be quite insane.
Why am I insane?
Meh...
Stop harassing him. At least on personal grounds. I don't pretend to have any authority here, but I don't think personal insults are appreciated.
I can't bring myself to read it... they're filming it too, but I dont think I'll ever watch it...
I didn't think I was insulting him, exactly. I didn't mean any harassment.
I didn't do any of those things. I was, however, bouncing my knee before the song started, I continued to bounce it while the song was playing, I continued bouncing it after the song ended, and I'm bouncing it right now.
Nooooo!
I had a friend that did that all the time.
It got so annoying in the end, that I actually started to attack his leg to try to get it to stop!
I've listened to stuff that shits on this in terms of wanting to tap your feet
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bA8_Ve7X3Lk&feature=related
That paragraph in itself sounds a little pretentious
Here we go...
Well, I did ask for it, or did I? I was stating my personal opinion, you took it as a personal statement towards you in some art as you took the time to reply with subjectivity.
It's not that simple, narrow minded, gory stuff is not gory stuff, it's something different to different people. It's not weird to me. I wouldn't say logic has much to do with this, it's simply human and socially constructed.
Logic, mathematical, proofs, etc etc can prove human patterns, suggest, imply human patterns, but logic does not serve as a recipe, formula what an individual does, ultimately. That's social conditioning, not logic, it's what's expected of others, what's "normal", is it not? You, with your "weird"?
Metal music to me is a art form.
YAY!!!!
You've totally latched onto one word in my message and completely missed the point. The point I was making is that you seem to look down people when they judge you for what you do - which of course people are going to do. How else are humans supposed to determine characteristic/personalities/etc. then by the actions of other humans? People have to base their opinions of others in some way, otherwise they just wouldn't have opinions at all. Maybe the way you act outside these forums is different you how you act within them, but how would we know? We never see that.
I personally don't mind gory stuff, each to their own - but that's not what I was saying. And also why bring metal in? Great that you like it, but again, it's not what I was saying.
But you're wrong, you're socially conditioned into the beliefs of the obvious observations of human kind, how you must process information.
You're attached to the strong roots of which are planted under your feet for you to grow.
Ok...
People have limited observations, and they view them subjectively, and the process of labeling things objectively is often done prematurely and subjectively and how we view the process of subjectivity is subjective.
Everyone, most of everyone, is conditioned to make opinions, it's a natural process of ego, conflict so that they can build their selves and compare, relate to others...when in fact, the truth most people are blind to is that you don't know most people, truly, until you've been their friend.
Even then, you won't know most people truly...
Take people you have lots in common with, implied obvious truth, now do you view your similarities, similarly? How do you know if you do?
It's all socially constructed, information, character, individualism, we assume that things must work one way or another because we're responding to a system of information that raises us, forms us, educates us.
We respond to the structure of idea, concept, when in fact most ideas and concepts can be challenged, or at least abstracted.
People are conditioned only socially to draw conclusions about others, to seek out friendships, to seek out individualism, to seek out these things.
The simple concept of reserving your opinions, thinking in multiple perspectives has never been conditioned into most people. Everyone wants people to be a certain way, even if they don't realize it, that way they can easily be their selves and try to work into their lives a way to fit in, and when they don't fit in they get frustrated and angry. Often people are ignorant, judgmental, don't really know people.
There's people they could be friends with, fit in with, if they didn't draw conclusions, stereotype, generalize people.
But, let's be realistic, look around you, racism, sexism...etc etc, it's in the roots of your nature.
People are just asking questions, really, because they really don't know. Yet they act as if they do. Reality is complex and beautiful, people emotionally, physically, psychologically experience it far more uniquely than most of the average, generic, person opens his/ her eyes to.
Why bring up metal? I don't know, maybe because it's in all the videos I've posted and people keep talking about the videos...That is if you consider it metal, socially, it's often thought of as that.
First off, that top sentence was a fun one :P
Second, I agree that making judgements doesn't mean you know a person - of course it doesn't. I'm just saying that people probably will base their views on you by what they see of you - because as you said, it's in their nature. It's not the ideal way of going about things and you can't claim to know a person by that but it is what people will do, because they have no source to base their views on other that what's in front of them, anything else is just speculation. Again it's not ideal but it's just how the majority of people seek out other, like-minded people to make friends with
I don't have a problem with speculation, personally. Some one is entitled to pick the thing that's most likely true, at least as a truth they perceive in their reality where their psyche is socially functional, when gathered to that truth as perceived , when clear and functional within what they perceive as their versions of reality for a sense of security, cohesion.
The mind is sort of fluid , but it's also lucid, you have a subconscious.
People don't reserve their opinions because they don't care to take the time to be confused, wonder about other people. It's most likely that simple. They just don't care that much. They just want to be fluid, remain inside their own heads, don't want to mess around with the perspectives of others. They don't care.
So they take what's most likely true to them, which may even appear to be obvious, objective, as long as it's cohesive and coherent to their own psyches and how they subjectively view their own psyches.
I wouldn't know, I don't make "friends" anymore and people don't make "friends" with me. As I see it.
Though that's merely a segment of the mind, of observation of reality, just a vivid picture, focus, still frame of what's going on. Yet I'm quick to label, judge my reality and say these things. When in fact, within the duration of the ultimate process of intellectualizing these things, something might be lost. Maybe, just maybe, people do perceive that they try to be my friend and they do perceive that I perceive they do and yet don't acknowledge that...there's a million possibilities.
Alright I'll admit, I'm a little bit confused now, but let's see if I can keep up :P
Although it's true that people will often skip to the first conclusion that pops into their heads, it's true that that's often the best thing to do. Yes, it's not the ideal in terms of discovering what a person's truely like, but on an everday, social level we simply don't have the time or the energy to look at every single person we meet through every single possible viewpoint. Instead we take the information we have and make quick, highly simplified decisions on it. After taking that first step in which you decide 'I like/dislike/am neutral towards this person' you go to the next one in which you devote more time in an effort to find out what they really are like. You might not ever know every facet of their personality but this is where you begin to put the effort in.
If you've decided you don't like a person you'll most likely decide you don't want to make the effort to learn more about, which, although it can be a mistake in the long-run, is the simplest way of communicating with people on an everyday normal level.
Hopefully I actually got the point of your last post lol :P
What do you think(.,!,?)
Yes.:)
Don't worry, I believe that it is I who is "confused". They label me all the time. Call me names, tell me I need professional help. You fit the social norms, it is I who am confused. Some how you've managed to see things differently, but it is I who is "confused". Am I not? Let people say what they will.
Well, there's not really any excuse for that - but are you sure sometimes when people mention professional help it's not just concern? It just seems (from my point of view anyway) that you're quite prone to becoming very emotionally involved with things, so when something bad happens you're prone to dark moods. I think sometimes people just worry about you unless something affects to the point that'll it'll effect you negatively
As for name-calling there's not really any need, that's just childish and doesn't help anything - but I wouldn't worry too much about it, everyone gets that sometimes
You're right but you're seeing it at a certain point, things evolve, change in the mind. At some point I feel and think one way and then another. Subjective information is human. Haha, trial and error and things change.
Ever hear, you were going strong then you fell off the page? That sort of thing before? It's a soup of the world around you, people, places, things...
I like my"dark" side. Now, you're right as you perceive these things objectively in your version of reality. These dark things, moods, I'm attracted to these things.
In my subconscious subjective reasons may attract me towards these "dark" things but consciously I only have a subjective opinion why I subjectively am attracted towards these things. We have false truths, we have denial. We have uncertainty. I assure you if we all understood ourselves, truly, we'd all be happy.
Perhaps I'm always emotionally invested, at a certain point it only becomes obvious because I now socially act out here on a forum.
There is a process in our minds, what's socially functional, our vocabulary, our educations, our up bringing, our pasts, our futures, where we choose our words and ideas that revolve around our psyches and subjective consciousnesses to express our selves "subjectively"...
So, tell me, am I insane? Do I romance things? I'll tell you that I'm not sure anymore. ?Had I a sense that I was insane or sane, I'd likely at least be functional in some way. I'd have the life experience to truly judge myself, but I don't and I don't really function in a way that lets me gather these experiences.
Am I confused? The mind is fluid but the subconscious is lucid.
Fair do's - just didn't want you to think people were having a go at you when they were just worried
Who's worried for me? To worry for some one is to be in denial. That person is the way they are to begin with.
For example, say I am self acclaimed insane.
Ok, then. I'm in denial that I'm imperfect, human, and I'm labeling myself so that I fit into the social architecture, constructs to relate to others and perhaps go into the process of others helping me. BUT I'm convinced I'm insane.
Truth is that I'm messed up, or have problems like every one else in this case, but I'm not TRULY willing to admit that. That's why they say the first step to solving such problems is admitting you have a problem.
Truth is that I'm in denial that this is who I am as a person, I desire for more, I fantasize about being more, a better person. I'm human, the world is incomplete, imperfect. This is the real me, I have to deal with that and admit there is a problem, but THAT IS NOT the same thing as admitting to a label now is it?
Slipping behind labels is not the same thing as coming face to face with the ugly truth, that is by far a obvious statement and in this context this sentence may make sense to you...
Now, people are worried for me? For me to accept this, owe up to this, I'd only begin to romanticize, search out for non related issues, out side issues of myself. People can learn to know me better, judge me as they do, as they are human. But this petty worry only leads to the superficiality of identity crises, professional help, others personal gain.
You don't face a problem standing backwards.
People are ignorant to worry for me, they only go off of what's socially norm, or superficial.