Well, Dashing was the one who found this deal for me. GameCube, Hulk game, and nine other crappy games for forty bucks. Which, considering this was everything I wanted, I felt was a pretty good deal.
What are the crappy games? And I'm surprised Dashing didn't just say "Don't get a Gamecube ever because it sucks and everything on it sucks.".
Certainly hope you got it a few days ago when it was half price.
As for Gamecube titles, there's some quality ones out there, though they're mostly first-party ones. Also, several were ported to the Wii (Pikmin I + II, Metroid Prime I + II), so I won't list those.
1080° Avalanche
Billy Hatcher & the Giant Egg (on PC as well, but only in Europe)
Chibi-Robo!
Doshin the Giant (Europe only, I'm afraid) Eternal fucking Darkness
F-Zero GX
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Geist (OK, it's not amazing, but it's still pretty interesting)
Harvest Moon (all three of them)
Ikaruga (it's also on XBLA and Android, apparently) killer fucking 7
Lost Kingdoms I + II
Luigi's Mansion
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Mario Party 4-7 (but only one of them - they're pretty samey)
Megaman: Network Transmission (it's hard as hell, but not bad at all)
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
Odama
P.N. 03
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Resident Evil 0 / 1 (these are the remakes, the others on the GC are ports of the originals)
Skies of Arcadia: Legends
Starfox Adventures (flawed, but still fun)
Starfox Assault (see Starfox Adventures)
Super Mario Sunshine (yes the cleaning elements get old, but it's still a good game)
Tales of Symphonia (rumoured to be getting a PS3 remake, so maybe wait and see with this one)
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures (play it co-op, for the love of Jehovah)
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (getting a WiiU port, though I'm not 100% about the new art style)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (GC version plays better, even if it's not quite as pretty) Universal Studios Theme Park Adventures (nah, I'm just kidding. This one's lame)
Virtua Quest (NTSC only. Not great, but certainly interesting)
Wave Race: Blue Storm
Sure I'm missing some there, but that should get you started.
Well, I don't even know if I'll even have time to play many games on it. One of the ironies of my position. Sure, I can afford all these things I always wanted now... but I don't have any free time to devote to actually using them.
I feel like I'm just stockpiling up things to do when I'm retired. Except I don't ever want to retire.
There are two Gamecube games that are a requirement of humanity to play. Eternal Darkness, and Paper Mario: TTYD.
I'd add that at the very least trying Killer7 is a requirement to keeping your street cred, even if I did forget it came out on the PS2 as well as the NGC. Oops.
Certainly hope you got it a few days ago when it was half price.
As for Gamecube titles, there's some quality ones out there, though they're mostly first-party ones. Also, several were ported to the Wii (Pikmin I + II, Metroid Prime I + II), so I won't list those.
1080° Avalanche
Billy Hatcher & the Giant Egg (on PC as well, but only in Europe)
Chibi-Robo!
Doshin the Giant (Europe only, I'm afraid) Eternal fucking Darkness
F-Zero GX
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Geist (OK, it's not amazing, but it's still pretty interesting)
Harvest Moon (all three of them)
Ikaruga (it's also on XBLA and Android, apparently) killer fucking 7
Lost Kingdoms I + II
Luigi's Mansion
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Mario Party 4-7 (but only one of them - they're pretty samey)
Megaman: Network Transmission (it's hard as hell, but not bad at all)
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
Odama
P.N. 03
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Resident Evil 0 / 1 (these are the remakes, the others on the GC are ports of the originals)
Skies of Arcadia: Legends
Starfox Adventures (flawed, but still fun)
Starfox Assault (see Starfox Adventures)
Super Mario Sunshine (yes the cleaning elements get old, but it's still a good game)
Tales of Symphonia (rumoured to be getting a PS3 remake, so maybe wait and see with this one)
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures (play it co-op, for the love of Jehovah)
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (getting a WiiU port, though I'm not 100% about the new art style)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (GC version plays better, even if it's not quite as pretty) Universal Studios Theme Park Adventures (nah, I'm just kidding. This one's lame)
Virtua Quest (NTSC only. Not great, but certainly interesting)
Wave Race: Blue Storm
Sure I'm missing some there, but that should get you started.
and there's Sonic Adventure DX, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle which both were remade for PS3, Xbox and Steam but the DX & Battle packs are DLC so...
I'd add that at the very least trying Killer7 is a requirement to keeping your street cred, even if I did forget it came out on the PS2 as well as the NGC. Oops.
Screw PS2. I play its exclusives, but GCN always has better graphics. Always.
And I'm surprised Dashing didn't just say "Don't get a Gamecube ever because it sucks and everything on it sucks.".
I did, but this was also probably the cheapest way to just get Hulk Ultimate Destruction playable in a single purchase. Yeah, I have my own opinions, but far be it from me to not help out and give somebody every option possible without being an ass about it and pushing my own perspective.
I'd add that at the very least trying Killer7 is a requirement to keeping your street cred, even if I did forget it came out on the PS2 as well as the NGC. Oops.
Also, there's:
Legend of Zelda: Wind Waker
Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (controls are far better than for Wii)
Metroid Prime
Metroid Prime 2: Echoes
Tales of Symphonia
Lord of the Rings: The Third Age
Star Wars: Rogue Squadron 2 or 3
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
And a GameBoy Player, which physically attaches to the bottom of the GameCube so that you can play GameBoy, GBC, and GBA games.
With a Game Boy Player, she could theoretically play all 13 Zelda games released before Phantom Hourglass on one system (though Four Swords would require a friend). But I'll settle for Ocarina of Time. We have an arrangement. If I finish Planescape: Torment, she plays Ocarina of Time.
With a Game Boy Player, she could theoretically play all 13 Zelda games released before Phantom Hourglass on one system (though Four Swords would require a friend). But I'll settle for Ocarina of Time.
You realize that the Zelda collection on Gamecube that contains Ocarina of Time is like $80 right?
EDIT: Actually, now I'm seeing them for about $45. Were they always around this price or did they drop? It's still a high cost relative to the Virtual Console releases.
With a Game Boy Player, she could theoretically play all 13 Zelda games released before Phantom Hourglass on one system (though Four Swords would require a friend). But I'll settle for Ocarina of Time. We have an arrangement. If I finish Planescape: Torment, she plays Ocarina of Time.
If she's gonna play Twilight Princess, it's better to play Ocarina of Time first, as TP pays a huge amount of homage to it.
EDIT: Actually, there should be some sort of deal like, if she plays Ocarina of Time, you have to stream a playthrough of King's Quest VI.
You realize that the Zelda collection on Gamecube that contains Ocarina of Time is like $80 right?
EDIT: Actually, now I'm seeing them for about $45. Were they always around this price or did they drop? It's still a high cost relative to the Virtual Console releases.
Depends on the quality and whether one can get it at such as GameStop. GameStop is selling it used for 30 bucks.
As I recall, it really was only ever the "new" ones that were expensive.
You realize that the Zelda collection on Gamecube that contains Ocarina of Time is like $80 right?
I did say theoretically. Also, if I wasn't concerned with LoZ, Zelda II, or Majora's Mask, the Ocarina of Time Master Quest disc is much cheaper. Also, you really end up paying a lot more on eBay when you only look at Buy it Now auctions, which is what I know you're doing.
I did, but this was also probably the cheapest way to just get Hulk Ultimate Destruction playable in a single purchase. Yeah, I have my own opinions, but far be it from me to not help out and give somebody every option possible without being an ass about it and pushing my own perspective.
The games were:
TY the Tasmanian Tiger
The Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction
From Russia With Love 007
Crash Tag Team Racing
Army Men Sarges War
Naruto Clash of Ninja
Madagascar
The Incredibles
Mortal Kombat Deception
Sponge Bob Square Pants Battle For Bikini Bottom
In my opinion and being fair, Spongebob is a good collect platformer that has the spirit of the first 3 seasons and movie in my opinion. Also Ty is enjoyable in my opinion as well as another good platformer. Madagascar is a OK movie game. Not in the worst of the movie game pile.
I don't know about Chyron but I averted my eyes and skipped over the rest of the list after I came across the f word in the fifth game. Besides you can't expect people to read posts that long without some pictures or something.
Almost did. End result looks way better though, wouldn't you agree?
Yeah although now I want to take out Wario World and add Jimmy Neutron Attack of the Twonkies, Fairy Oddparents Breakin Da Rules, and Scooby Doo Mystery Mayhem, but I'm content to let this post do it for me. Also you did amazing work. It's gorgeous.
His list is not bad....better than I expected. Mine:
Several of these games actually came up as he was building the list. He considered but didn't include: Alien Hominid, Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat (because of the required bongo controller), Doshin the Giant (because it's an import game), Luigi's Mansion (because he felt it was a good atmosphere but not good gameplay, unlike the sequel), Pikmin, the Resident Evils (best I can figure, because he's a Silent Hill fan), Wario World, WarioWare, and any "party games", like Mario Party, Mario Kart, and Smash Bros (because Alcoremortis will likely be playing alone).
We also discussed Super Mario Sunshine (which was his least favorite 3D Mario because of the environment and the jetpack gameplay), Star Fox Adventures (which I argued is an amazing game set in the Star Fox universe that just doesn't use traditional Star Fox gameplay, and he didn't care for it), and Tales of Symphonia, which both Dashing and Alcoremortis didn't think was a very good game.
Several of these games actually came up as he was building the list. He considered but didn't include: Alien Hominid, Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat (because of the required bongo controller), Doshin the Giant (because it's an import game), Luigi's Mansion (because he felt it was a good atmosphere but not good gameplay, unlike the sequel), Pikmin, the Resident Evils (best I can figure, because he's a Silent Hill fan), Wario World, WarioWare, and any "party games", like Mario Party, Mario Kart, and Smash Bros (because Alcoremortis will likely be playing alone).
We also discussed Super Mario Sunshine (which was his least favorite 3D Mario because of the environment and the jetpack gameplay), Star Fox Adventures (which I argued is an amazing game set in the Star Fox universe that just doesn't use traditional Star Fox gameplay, and he didn't care for it), and Tales of Symphonia, which both Dashing and Alcoremortis didn't think was a very good game.
Resident Evil isn't scary until 3, but I love playing them as awesome B movie types. Silent Hill is quite a bit above even A material, with 2 up there with some of the best classic stories. Luigi's Mansion has great gameplay. The bongo controller is neat and I don't understand why that would be a negative. Wario World is just okay and I'm sorry I included it. Mario Party can be fun alone due to minigames, but I didn't make that list for Alcoremortis.
My list for Alcoremortis would be significantly smaller and down to absolute must-plays. Sunshine is fun and I love the environment in it. I have more fun with Sunshine than I EVER had with SM64. Come at me, bros.
I don't even want to hear about SFA hate, so I'll pretend you didn't say that, and Tales of Symphonia has great visuals but just okay story.
This list I made is just a list of games I consider worthwhile on the Gamecube as an antithesis to Dashing, although I value his opinion and found his list surprisingly good.
Resident Evil isn't scary until 3, but I love playing them as awesome B movie types.
I would've recommended RE4. It's a damn fine game, and it's the one that hooked me on the franchise and got me to look at the earlier games (though I've still only played 0, 4, and 5 because the only other game I own is REmake, and I'm waiting until I own 2, 3, and Code:Veronica.)
The bongo controller is neat and I don't understand why that would be a negative.
Because it's an additional purchase? I thought the DK Bongos were neat, but I've had very limited experience with them and never managed to pick up a set.
Wario World is just okay and I'm sorry I included it.
Dashing said that he loves every Wario game except that one. I haven't actually played a Wario game, so I had nothing to say in return.
Sunshine is fun and I love the environment in it. I have more fun with Sunshine than I EVER had with SM64. Come at me, bros.
This is pretty much exactly what I told Dashing last night. He defended it for being groundbreaking. I don't regret playing it or even 100%ing it, it's just not my favorite 3D Mario, and I enjoyed Sunshine much more.
I don't even want to hear about SFA hate, so I'll pretend you didn't say that
Hey, I'm with you. I adore SFA. It's easily one of the prettiest games on the GameCube, and it's a hell of a lot of fun.
Regarding 64 vs sunshine I don't understand the argument that doing it first automatically means doing it better. Many reviewers give lower ratings to good games or movies just because something else did it first, I guess.
Regarding 64 vs sunshine I don't understand the argument that doing it first automatically means doing it better. Many reviewers give lower ratings to good games or movies just because something else did it first, I guess.
INVENTING something is generally more admirable than COPYING something. The lightbulb is a pretty impressive thing but nobody's going to celebrate if I make one now the same way they might if the thing had never been made.
True, but I would much rather use a lightbulb produced today than the first lightbulb made by Edison. Just because you did it first, that doesn't mean it can't be improved upon.
I'm just saying, "Just because they did it first" is a poor argument for demeaning the value of inventing something. Doing something first IS by itself a quality worth celebrating by itself. Denigrating that by using "just" to pretend the act of inventing how to do open 3D games is in some way no less impressive than just doing "that, but again" is ridiculous. Two things that are exactly the same other than one being the first to ever do what they do are not actually equal things, there's a real false equivalency there.
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What are the crappy games? And I'm surprised Dashing didn't just say "Don't get a Gamecube ever because it sucks and everything on it sucks.".
As for Gamecube titles, there's some quality ones out there, though they're mostly first-party ones. Also, several were ported to the Wii (Pikmin I + II, Metroid Prime I + II), so I won't list those.
1080° Avalanche
Billy Hatcher & the Giant Egg (on PC as well, but only in Europe)
Chibi-Robo!
Doshin the Giant (Europe only, I'm afraid)
Eternal fucking Darkness
F-Zero GX
Final Fantasy: Crystal Chronicles
Fire Emblem: Path of Radiance
Geist (OK, it's not amazing, but it's still pretty interesting)
Harvest Moon (all three of them)
Ikaruga (it's also on XBLA and Android, apparently)
killer fucking 7
Lost Kingdoms I + II
Luigi's Mansion
Mario Kart: Double Dash!!
Mario Party 4-7 (but only one of them - they're pretty samey)
Megaman: Network Transmission (it's hard as hell, but not bad at all)
Metal Gear Solid: The Twin Snakes
Odama
P.N. 03
Paper Mario: The Thousand Year Door
Resident Evil 0 / 1 (these are the remakes, the others on the GC are ports of the originals)
Skies of Arcadia: Legends
Starfox Adventures (flawed, but still fun)
Starfox Assault (see Starfox Adventures)
Super Mario Sunshine (yes the cleaning elements get old, but it's still a good game)
Tales of Symphonia (rumoured to be getting a PS3 remake, so maybe wait and see with this one)
The Legend of Zelda: Four Swords Adventures (play it co-op, for the love of Jehovah)
The Legend of Zelda: The Wind Waker (getting a WiiU port, though I'm not 100% about the new art style)
The Legend of Zelda: Twilight Princess (GC version plays better, even if it's not quite as pretty)
Universal Studios Theme Park Adventures (nah, I'm just kidding. This one's lame)
Virtua Quest (NTSC only. Not great, but certainly interesting)
Wave Race: Blue Storm
Sure I'm missing some there, but that should get you started.
I feel like I'm just stockpiling up things to do when I'm retired. Except I don't ever want to retire.
and there's Sonic Adventure DX, Sonic Adventure 2 Battle which both were remade for PS3, Xbox and Steam but the DX & Battle packs are DLC so...
Screw PS2. I play its exclusives, but GCN always has better graphics. Always.
The games were:
TY the Tasmanian Tiger
The Incredible Hulk Ultimate Destruction
From Russia With Love 007
Crash Tag Team Racing
Army Men Sarges War
Naruto Clash of Ninja
Madagascar
The Incredibles
Mortal Kombat Deception
Sponge Bob Square Pants Battle For Bikini Bottom
Last bought:
It's $1 on IndieGameStand (dot com), so what the hell are you people waiting for.
It's a hell of a lot better than my arrangement with Dashing to play KOTOR if he finished Gemini Rue.
I was on the fence about it, but you talked me into it. I'll even spring for the extra 30 cents to get the BTA stuff.
EDIT: Actually, now I'm seeing them for about $45. Were they always around this price or did they drop? It's still a high cost relative to the Virtual Console releases.
If she's gonna play Twilight Princess, it's better to play Ocarina of Time first, as TP pays a huge amount of homage to it.
EDIT: Actually, there should be some sort of deal like, if she plays Ocarina of Time, you have to stream a playthrough of King's Quest VI.
Depends on the quality and whether one can get it at such as GameStop. GameStop is selling it used for 30 bucks.
As I recall, it really was only ever the "new" ones that were expensive.
I did say theoretically. Also, if I wasn't concerned with LoZ, Zelda II, or Majora's Mask, the Ocarina of Time Master Quest disc is much cheaper. Also, you really end up paying a lot more on eBay when you only look at Buy it Now auctions, which is what I know you're doing.
Rather Dashing's list of Worthwhile Games on the GameCube
Because this is AlcoreMortis's first and only console, this list can and will contain multiplatform titles.
1.
Remake of the first Metal Gear Solid, the remake is exclusive to the GameCube.
2.
Compilation of previous MegaMan games, also had Xbox and PS2 versions.
3.
Exclusive.
4.
Exclusive.
5.
Had a PS2 port.
6.
Had a PS2 version.
7.
Exclusive
8.
Exclusive. Microphone-controlled Pinball/RTS mash-up
9.
Had Dreamcast and XBLA releases.
10.
Exclusive.
11.
Also on PS2
12.
Exclusive
13.
Multiplatform
14.
Exclusive
15.
Multiplatform
16.
Exclusive
There you go. Every game worth playing on the GameCube, minus Ultimate Destruction and multiplayer-focused titles.
Also, no one has mentioned Super Mario Sunshine yet.
edit: or F-Zero GX, or Pikmin 2.
In my opinion and being fair, Spongebob is a good collect platformer that has the spirit of the first 3 seasons and movie in my opinion. Also Ty is enjoyable in my opinion as well as another good platformer. Madagascar is a OK movie game. Not in the worst of the movie game pile.
His list is not bad....better than I expected. Mine:
Wait, no. No I'm not. Not even remotely.
And Fawful - LOT of images. Can you possibly find some smaller ones? Thanks.
No. I spent two hours on that. That's the maximum amount of time I'm willing to spend finding video game covers.
Knock yourself out.
It didn't. Just a failed attempt at mocking Chyron for missing the sixth game on your list.
Yeah although now I want to take out Wario World and add Jimmy Neutron Attack of the Twonkies, Fairy Oddparents Breakin Da Rules, and Scooby Doo Mystery Mayhem, but I'm content to let this post do it for me. Also you did amazing work. It's gorgeous.
Several of these games actually came up as he was building the list. He considered but didn't include: Alien Hominid, Donkey Kong: Jungle Beat (because of the required bongo controller), Doshin the Giant (because it's an import game), Luigi's Mansion (because he felt it was a good atmosphere but not good gameplay, unlike the sequel), Pikmin, the Resident Evils (best I can figure, because he's a Silent Hill fan), Wario World, WarioWare, and any "party games", like Mario Party, Mario Kart, and Smash Bros (because Alcoremortis will likely be playing alone).
We also discussed Super Mario Sunshine (which was his least favorite 3D Mario because of the environment and the jetpack gameplay), Star Fox Adventures (which I argued is an amazing game set in the Star Fox universe that just doesn't use traditional Star Fox gameplay, and he didn't care for it), and Tales of Symphonia, which both Dashing and Alcoremortis didn't think was a very good game.
Resident Evil isn't scary until 3, but I love playing them as awesome B movie types. Silent Hill is quite a bit above even A material, with 2 up there with some of the best classic stories. Luigi's Mansion has great gameplay. The bongo controller is neat and I don't understand why that would be a negative. Wario World is just okay and I'm sorry I included it. Mario Party can be fun alone due to minigames, but I didn't make that list for Alcoremortis.
My list for Alcoremortis would be significantly smaller and down to absolute must-plays. Sunshine is fun and I love the environment in it. I have more fun with Sunshine than I EVER had with SM64. Come at me, bros.
I don't even want to hear about SFA hate, so I'll pretend you didn't say that, and Tales of Symphonia has great visuals but just okay story.
This list I made is just a list of games I consider worthwhile on the Gamecube as an antithesis to Dashing, although I value his opinion and found his list surprisingly good.
I would've recommended RE4. It's a damn fine game, and it's the one that hooked me on the franchise and got me to look at the earlier games (though I've still only played 0, 4, and 5 because the only other game I own is REmake, and I'm waiting until I own 2, 3, and Code:Veronica.)
Because it's an additional purchase? I thought the DK Bongos were neat, but I've had very limited experience with them and never managed to pick up a set.
Dashing said that he loves every Wario game except that one. I haven't actually played a Wario game, so I had nothing to say in return.
This is pretty much exactly what I told Dashing last night. He defended it for being groundbreaking. I don't regret playing it or even 100%ing it, it's just not my favorite 3D Mario, and I enjoyed Sunshine much more.
Hey, I'm with you. I adore SFA. It's easily one of the prettiest games on the GameCube, and it's a hell of a lot of fun.
Do you know how much you could sell the first lightbulb for!?