If i remember things correctly many advantures shipped with support of these four languages: English (Esperanto), German (most beautiful language in the world), French (Eclaires) and Spanish (Crema Catalana).
I am from Spain and as a client of Telltale since Day 1, and after buying ALL the Telltale games, I am very dissapointed with them. Subtitles in English, French and German, but not Spanish???!!!! Come on!
More than 400 millions of people speak spanish in the world. All the multilanguage games published by Nintendo, Microsoft, EA and many others, include spanish. Almost all multilanguage games include five languages: english, german, spanish, french, and italian. A lot friends and family want to buy Telltale games, but they can't. Spain is a country with a lot of graphic adventure tradition (The Runaway games are from Spain) but, as in Germany, people like to play the games and movies in their own language and not many of them speak english. If Telltale translates their games to spanish, I am sure they'll sell a lot in Spain, specially games that are myths here like Tales of Monkey Island, or much-loved films like Back to the Future or Jurassic Park.
If Telltale translates their games to spanish, I am sure they'll sell a lot in Spain, specially games that are myths here like Tales of Monkey Island, or much-loved films like Back to the Future or Jurassic Park.
Just so you know, the word you should use in that sentence is legends, not myths. And, given how much complaining we've heard from our German friends about the poor translation job, I'm not sure you really want what you are asking for. Yes a good multi-language game should be the goal, but it should be done right, not poorly.
the word you should use in that sentence is legends, not myths
Thanks. I can read english perfectly, but to write it is another story...
And, given how much complaining we've heard from our German friends about the poor translation job, I'm not sure you really want what you are asking for
Well, Wallace & Gromit is translated into spanish (it was published on the X360 and Microsoft DEMAND to translate ALL Xbox Live games to spanish, thanks Bill Gates) and the translation was good as I remember... But I played the game in english because I can read it, my brother and some friends played it in spanish.
Or they just made french (because of canada) and german (because it's the number 1 market for adventure games)
I can understand the german subtitles, they sell a lot of adventures there. But french? There are much more people that speak spanish in USA than people that speak french in Canada... And Mexico and South America are two emergent markets, and well, Spain is an important videogame market with an adventure tradition...
But I don't want a confrontation. It is good that they translate the game to german and french. But if they go multilanguage, then do it well and translate to all the "classic" videogame languages: english, german, french, spanish and italian.
yeah, and there are about 80 million people in germany. and a LOT OF THESE PEOPLE just love adventure games, cause as you all know, germany is THE country when it comes to adventure games.
it depends on the sellings, not on the people that are speaking the language
yeah, i know its easy to say, cause im german, but you get it, dont you?
yeah, and there are about 80 million people in germany. and a LOT OF THESE PEOPLE just love adventure games, cause as you all know, germany is THE country when it comes to adventure games.
it depends on the sellings, not on the people that are speaking the language
yeah, i know its easy to say, cause im german, but you get it, dont you?
I could say the same thing about Spain. We love adventure games but there are few titles.
Pienso que si lo sacaran en Español, bastante gente se quejaría de que los actores no sean los mismos, o que el acento que usan en el doblaje no les agrada, o que los subtítulos no encajan con su región en particular.... Por lo menos sé que así pasaría aquí...
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I think that if they release it in Spanish, a lot of people would complain about the actors not being the same as in the movies, of they wouldn't be happy with the dubbing's accent; or that subtitles wouldn't fit with their particular region... At least I know that'd be the case here...
Pienso que si lo sacaran en Español, bastante gente se quejaría de que los actores no sean los mismos, o que el acento que usan en el doblaje no les agrada, o que los subtítulos no encajan con su región en particular.... Por lo menos sé que así pasaría aquí...
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I think that if they release it in Spanish, a lot of people would complain about the actors not being the same as in the movies, of they wouldn't be happy with the dubbing's accent; or that subtitles wouldn't fit with their particular region... At least I know that'd be the case here...
What we want is spanish subtitles. I don't care if they dub the game in spanish! The English dubbing is perfect for me.
Lo que queremos son subtitulos. El doblaje al español no me importa tanto, sinceramente. El doblaje en ingles es estupendo.
Incluso los subtítulos necesitan localización. Por eso es que mi post incluye tanto el doblaje como los subtítulos.
Toda LatinoAmérica conoce el "Condensador de Flujo", "Calvin Klein" y "la Súpertabla" y toda España conoce el "Condensador de Fluzo", "Levis Strauss" y "el Aeropatín". Cualquiera que se escoja deja al otro deseando que "los tomen en cuenta".
De hecho, a mí no me importa jugarlo en Inglés, lo prefiero así . Si hicieran subtítulos o doblaje, no creo que coincida con lo que ya existe desde hace años.
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Even subtitles need localization. That's why my post covers both dubbing and subtitles.
All LatinAmerica knows the "Condensador de Flujo" -Flux Capacitor-, "Calvin Klein" and "la Súpertabla" -the HoverBoard- and all Spain knows the "Condensador de Fluzo", "Levis Strauss" -Marty's alterego in 1955- and "el Aeropatín"; so, any they choose, leaves the other part wishing "that they take them into account".
In fact, I don't mind playing the game in English at all, and I prefer it like that . If they do subtitles or dubbing, I don't think it'll match what has been there already for years.
I know a lot of my italian friend that don't want to play the game because of the english (they did the same thing for sam & max season 3 ._.), but I think that there's a reason if telltale didn't translate the game to my language
I know a lot of my italian friend that don't want to play the game because of the english (they did the same thing for sam & max season 3 ._.), but I think that there's a reason if telltale didn't translate the game to my language
I believe it's the same reason why a lot of people I know didn't want to buy -and raged when they bought- the BTTF DVDs because the spanish dubbing was the Iberic Spanish dubbing and not the LatinAmerican one: because they want to experience it how they remember it...
Incluso los subtítulos necesitan localización. Por eso es que mi post incluye tanto el doblaje como los subtítulos.
Toda LatinoAmérica conoce el "Condensador de Flujo", "Calvin Klein" y "la Súpertabla" y toda España conoce el "Condensador de Fluzo", "Levis Strauss" y "el Aeropatín". Cualquiera que se escoja deja al otro deseando que "los tomen en cuenta".
De hecho, a mí no me importa jugarlo en Inglés, lo prefiero así . Si hicieran subtítulos o doblaje, no creo que coincida con lo que ya existe desde hace años.
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Even subtitles need localization. That's why my post covers both dubbing and subtitles.
All LatinAmerica knows the "Condensador de Flujo" -Flux Capacitor-, "Calvin Klein" and "la Súpertabla" -the HoverBoard- and all Spain knows the "Condensador de Fluzo", "Levis Strauss" -Marty's alterego in 1955- and "el Aeropatín"; so, any they choose, leaves the other part wishing them "that they take them into account".
In fact, I don't mind playing the game in English at all, and I prefer it like that . If they do subtitles or dubbing, I don't think it'll match what has been there already for years.
I'm still preferring ONLY subtitles localization. I'm still saying that the voices are perfect in english.
Seguiria prefiriendo solo la localización de los subtitulos. Prefiero las versiones en inglés de las voces, la verdad.
I didn't liked much the TALES fansubs, but at least it was something. If FX bought the rights of Telltale games we would get GREAT dubs and for just 20 euros... That would be AWESOME.
While I appreciate the great effort the translators have done, I didn't like that they changed the main dialogue of the first sequence to a word-for-word translation instead if using a "fixed" version of the original latinamerican dubbing, like "Si mis cálculos son correctos, cuando ese vehículo llegue a las ochenta y ocho millas por hora, te asombrará lo que verás...". However, it's nice to read the game in my native language
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Perfecto, ya quiero revisar el texto
Hecho.
Mientras que aprecio el gran esfuerzo que han hecho los traductores, no me gustó que cambiaran el diálogo principal de la primera secuencia por una traducción de cada palabra en vez de usar una versión "arreglada" del doblaje latinoamericano, como "Si mis cálculos son correctos, cuando ese vehículo llegue a las ochenta y ocho millas por hora, te asombrará lo que verás...". Sin embargo, es agradable leer el juego en mi lenguaje nativo
For the screens I suppose that those are Latin Spanish subtitles... The quotes from the spanish translation are different ("¡Ciento cuarenta kilómetros por hora!" or "¡Has desintegrado a Einstein!" par example).
For the screens I suppose that those are Latin Spanish subtitles... The quotes from the spanish translation are different ("¡Ciento cuarenta kilómetros por hora!" or "¡Has desintegrado a Einstein!" par example).
You don't need to be from South America to not convert mph to kph or km/h in the translation.
You don't need to be from South America to not convert mph to kph or km/h in the translation.
It's not just that, look at the second example. Or to say "auto" instead of "coche". Little differences, but when you have seen a movie hundreds of times, every word is important.
It's a literal, neutral, word-for-word translation. "Flux dispersal" is stated as "Dispersión de fluidos" instead of "Dispersión de flujo" or "Dispersión de fluzo". "Great Scott" is translated to "Gran Scott" instead of "Santo Cielo" (or "Santa Ciencia" as the second latinamerican dubbing goes) or any catchphrase recognizable by Spanish speakers. Those examples are just the tip of the iceberg.
It's just faithful to the original English script, not to any of the dubbed versions, in the way that every language-based joke is lost in translation, like the cases of "But when?, I need a date!", "Can I have some mousse?" or "Hang in there, Doc".
So, it's just Spanish... Not Latinamerican, not Iberic, but neutral.
As far as I remember, there was an Iberic-Spanish translation at Taringa!... You only have to browse.
And isn't it being a "bad" decision subjective?. I didn't like that they didn't use any of the dubs' dialogues (it isn't the BTTF I remember either), but I appreciate the effort greatly and see it as a fair desicion.
Uhm, this is heavy....
Guys, the translation and integration with the game took a lot of time and work.
If you think that there´s not a good work, you have the choice to play it in its original language or in Deutsch.
Its original purpose was for help the non english spoken fans, and nothing else.
And I appreciate that. Thank the team for their hard work, they did it great!
The issue, at least with me, is that the translation is just faithful to the main English script: Instead of saying "Cuando este vehículo llegue a las 88 millas por hora, te asombrará lo que verás" it says "Cuando este bebé llegue a las 88 millas por hora, vas a ver algo sorprendente", or writing "Marshall Strickland" instead of "Comisario Strickland", which is quite not the same as I've heard through the years of watching it on local TV. The translation is accurate to what they're actually saying, but is not the same feeling as what I've seen before.
So, I don't have a problem with their work, but with the content, which is well written and spell-checked, but is not the BTTF I remember.
For example, I had to translate BTTF:HV to Spanish, and I did the same, but making use of the keywords used in the dub, like "flujo", "Santa Ciencia", "Espacio Contínuo del Tiempo" and "No estás pensando en la Cuarta Dimensión": Not quite a literal translation of the terms, but that's what was used. Now, I can understand that there are mistakes in the dubbings, and that's why I suggested in the other Spanish thread that they could have used a "fixed" version of the dubbing, like in the case of "¿Qué es eso que está en el auto?" to "¿Tiene eso conectado al... auto?".
So, it's not that is a bad work, which it ISN'T, it's good, it's great! but it just doesn't feel the same.
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This.
(Never thought I'd answer like that!)
Esperanto... hummm... Hugh Bliss would love it!
(Sam&Max joke, don't think I am crazy
More than 400 millions of people speak spanish in the world. All the multilanguage games published by Nintendo, Microsoft, EA and many others, include spanish. Almost all multilanguage games include five languages: english, german, spanish, french, and italian. A lot friends and family want to buy Telltale games, but they can't. Spain is a country with a lot of graphic adventure tradition (The Runaway games are from Spain) but, as in Germany, people like to play the games and movies in their own language and not many of them speak english. If Telltale translates their games to spanish, I am sure they'll sell a lot in Spain, specially games that are myths here like Tales of Monkey Island, or much-loved films like Back to the Future or Jurassic Park.
Just so you know, the word you should use in that sentence is legends, not myths. And, given how much complaining we've heard from our German friends about the poor translation job, I'm not sure you really want what you are asking for. Yes a good multi-language game should be the goal, but it should be done right, not poorly.
Well, Wallace & Gromit is translated into spanish (it was published on the X360 and Microsoft DEMAND to translate ALL Xbox Live games to spanish, thanks Bill Gates) and the translation was good as I remember... But I played the game in english because I can read it, my brother and some friends played it in spanish.
I can understand the german subtitles, they sell a lot of adventures there. But french? There are much more people that speak spanish in USA than people that speak french in Canada... And Mexico and South America are two emergent markets, and well, Spain is an important videogame market with an adventure tradition...
But I don't want a confrontation. It is good that they translate the game to german and french. But if they go multilanguage, then do it well and translate to all the "classic" videogame languages: english, german, french, spanish and italian.
my - word!!!
Just sayin'
it depends on the sellings, not on the people that are speaking the language
yeah, i know its easy to say, cause im german, but you get it, dont you?
I could say the same thing about Spain. We love adventure games but there are few titles.
I don't say this cause I am spanish... no way!!
Da las gracias si lo sacan en castellano!
Thank them if they translate to spanish!
"NOW" is rude... what about "pleeeeeease, pretty pleeeeeease"?
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I think that if they release it in Spanish, a lot of people would complain about the actors not being the same as in the movies, of they wouldn't be happy with the dubbing's accent; or that subtitles wouldn't fit with their particular region... At least I know that'd be the case here...
What we want is spanish subtitles. I don't care if they dub the game in spanish! The English dubbing is perfect for me.
Lo que queremos son subtitulos. El doblaje al español no me importa tanto, sinceramente. El doblaje en ingles es estupendo.
Toda LatinoAmérica conoce el "Condensador de Flujo", "Calvin Klein" y "la Súpertabla" y toda España conoce el "Condensador de Fluzo", "Levis Strauss" y "el Aeropatín". Cualquiera que se escoja deja al otro deseando que "los tomen en cuenta".
De hecho, a mí no me importa jugarlo en Inglés, lo prefiero así
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Even subtitles need localization. That's why my post covers both dubbing and subtitles.
All LatinAmerica knows the "Condensador de Flujo" -Flux Capacitor-, "Calvin Klein" and "la Súpertabla" -the HoverBoard- and all Spain knows the "Condensador de Fluzo", "Levis Strauss" -Marty's alterego in 1955- and "el Aeropatín"; so, any they choose, leaves the other part wishing "that they take them into account".
In fact, I don't mind playing the game in English at all, and I prefer it like that
I believe it's the same reason why a lot of people I know didn't want to buy -and raged when they bought- the BTTF DVDs because the spanish dubbing was the Iberic Spanish dubbing and not the LatinAmerican one: because they want to experience it how they remember it...
You won't ever get a spanish dub.
I'm still preferring ONLY subtitles localization. I'm still saying that the voices are perfect in english.
Seguiria prefiriendo solo la localización de los subtitulos. Prefiero las versiones en inglés de las voces, la verdad.
May be, may be not.
From Telltale I'm sure not. But if some spanish videogames editor (as FX) is interested in the game... who knows?
(If some Telltale guy want to know more about them... But please, NO MORE ATARI)
Please Telltale transltate your games. Many of us want to enjoy your fantastic games translated.
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While I appreciate the great effort the translators have done, I didn't like that they changed the main dialogue of the first sequence to a word-for-word translation instead if using a "fixed" version of the original latinamerican dubbing, like "Si mis cálculos son correctos, cuando ese vehículo llegue a las ochenta y ocho millas por hora, te asombrará lo que verás...". However, it's nice to read the game in my native language
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Perfecto, ya quiero revisar el texto
Hecho.
Mientras que aprecio el gran esfuerzo que han hecho los traductores, no me gustó que cambiaran el diálogo principal de la primera secuencia por una traducción de cada palabra en vez de usar una versión "arreglada" del doblaje latinoamericano, como "Si mis cálculos son correctos, cuando ese vehículo llegue a las ochenta y ocho millas por hora, te asombrará lo que verás...". Sin embargo, es agradable leer el juego en mi lenguaje nativo
You don't need to be from South America to not convert mph to kph or km/h in the translation.
It's not just that, look at the second example. Or to say "auto" instead of "coche". Little differences, but when you have seen a movie hundreds of times, every word is important.
It's just faithful to the original English script, not to any of the dubbed versions, in the way that every language-based joke is lost in translation, like the cases of "But when?, I need a date!", "Can I have some mousse?" or "Hang in there, Doc".
So, it's just Spanish... Not Latinamerican, not Iberic, but neutral.
I don't want that this be faithful with the script. If I would want, I would bought it in English. I'll keep waiting for an iberic translation.
What you call "Neutral" is a bad decision, sorry!
And isn't it being a "bad" decision subjective?. I didn't like that they didn't use any of the dubs' dialogues (it isn't the BTTF I remember either), but I appreciate the effort greatly and see it as a fair desicion.
Guys, the translation and integration with the game took a lot of time and work.
If you think that there´s not a good work, you have the choice to play it in its original language or in Deutsch.
Its original purpose was for help the non english spoken fans, and nothing else.
The issue, at least with me, is that the translation is just faithful to the main English script: Instead of saying "Cuando este vehículo llegue a las 88 millas por hora, te asombrará lo que verás" it says "Cuando este bebé llegue a las 88 millas por hora, vas a ver algo sorprendente", or writing "Marshall Strickland" instead of "Comisario Strickland", which is quite not the same as I've heard through the years of watching it on local TV. The translation is accurate to what they're actually saying, but is not the same feeling as what I've seen before.
So, I don't have a problem with their work, but with the content, which is well written and spell-checked, but is not the BTTF I remember.
For example, I had to translate BTTF:HV to Spanish, and I did the same, but making use of the keywords used in the dub, like "flujo", "Santa Ciencia", "Espacio Contínuo del Tiempo" and "No estás pensando en la Cuarta Dimensión": Not quite a literal translation of the terms, but that's what was used. Now, I can understand that there are mistakes in the dubbings, and that's why I suggested in the other Spanish thread that they could have used a "fixed" version of the dubbing, like in the case of "¿Qué es eso que está en el auto?" to "¿Tiene eso conectado al... auto?".
So, it's not that is a bad work, which it ISN'T, it's good, it's great! but it just doesn't feel the same.