I wonder if anybody understands that this game is played from Lee's stand point. Yes we get to choose what he says but it's still from Lee's standpoint, in the end does he really want to save someone just for being a girl? That seems quite shallow, dontcha think?
I choose Carley in my first playthrough on the basis that I got to know her better and we did a helluva alot more with Carley than with Doug. Second playthrough I choose Doug and so far I like that playthrough purely on Doug being more obscure but still being useful in certain situations without being able to use a gun.
She's proven to remain cool under pressure, an excellent shot, a good source of morale and takes no crap from anyone. Plus, in the first episode she's proven herself worthy (batteries notwithstanding).
Even though she knows Lee's secret, I would trust her and glad to have her watch my back for the group anytime.
I wonder if anybody understands that this game is played from Lee's stand point.
I am Lee, Lee is me... and you and him and her...
I love how everyone has these well considered reasons for why they choose who they did. Did everyone pause their game? First time through, it's pure instinct as to who you choose while you scramble for an active point to help the character. In my case it was the girl with the gun because once I helped her she could help herself and then maybe I'd have the option to help Doug.
The first saved game slot, I picked Doug. All because I didn't know where to look to pick Carley. On the second slot, I picked carley. IMO the two have are both useful. Happy gaming!
The part that bothered me about this choice was how needless either death was. I'm AOK with a choice that involves choosing Carley or Doug, but the way it was facilitated just made it seem like saving both would be pretty easy. A lot of this has to do with Carley's purse.
Previously Clementine has: Ran from her treehouse and got you a hammer for a babysitter, all of this which was her own initiative to a stranger she had never met before. And, when pressured/asked by Lee to find something, got his father's cane.
Between Clementine's free hands while she's shaking like a leaf over what's happening (When its just as scary as the other events that transpired), to Lee who knew to utilize/get Clementine to get things, I could never quite get where the option was to just have Clementine toss Carley's purse to her while Lee helped Doug. If Clementine previously was too afraid to do these kinds of actions, then sure, it'd be fair, she's a little kid. And if Lee didn't already have a history of asking her to do things during dangerous situations when his hands are busy, then likewise, but this just seemed a little off.
So the choice is fine, the execution seemed a little awkward. Its no wonder there's a couple cases of people being confused at Carley's problem.
Also team Carley for me. She saved Kenny and his Family, Lee, and Clementine in the streets, was willing to save either Lee/Clementine AGAIN, and went to the Glenn thing. She also tries to put out the fires in their social dynamics of screaming at one another. Meanwhile Doug is a smart introvert with an awkward skill-set.
The number one cited reason I see people say they didn't save Carley is because she derped in a highly stressful environment over batteries during a rest period rather than her knowing his history. You know, after she's saved your life twice. That is astonishingly cold to me. It wasn't even about the fact that she could save my life again-- its about me owing a life debt or two her way.
Also team Carley for me. She saved Kenny and his Family, Lee, and Clementine in the streets, was willing to save either Lee/Clementine AGAIN, and went to the Glenn thing. She also tries to put out the fires in their social dynamics of screaming at one another. Meanwhile Doug is a smart introvert with an awkward skill-set.
The number one cited reason I see people say they didn't save Carley is because she derped in a highly stressful environment over batteries during a rest period rather than her knowing his history. You know, after she's saved your life twice. That is astonishingly cold to me. It wasn't even about the fact that she could save my life again-- its about me owing a life debt or two her way.
Outstanding! Well said. I saved Carley too. Welcome to the forum.
"Guys! I'm blocking a window with my spine to make sure an entire wave of zombies don't get through! Don't worry, bros! I got this!"
versus:
"Oh no! My ankle! How did that single zombie know my weakness! I can't shake him off because of me being an idiot and wearing heels in a zombie outbreak! And shooting him is out of the question, because I kept my ammo in a stupid spot! Hnnng!"
I chose the fat man, and have not looked back since. Bro's gotta watch out for one another.
I saved Carley in my main story because she saved Lee's life twice, she's an expert with a handgun (which remains the only handgun the group has in Ep.2), she continues to trust Lee despite knowing his secret and she goes with Lee to save Glenn. The fact that she was, well, a she didn't even come up in my decision-making
"...I can't shake him off because of me being an idiot and wearing heels in a zombie outbreak! And shooting him is out of the question, because I kept my ammo in a stupid spot! Hnnng!"
Somehow, I doubt there was a memo, "Ladies and Gentlemen, we are about to have a Zombie Apocalypse. This is not a drill, please consider your footwear carefully." And how is a purse a stupid place to put ammo?
Somehow, I doubt there was a memo, "Ladies and Gentlemen, we are about to have a Zombie Apocalypse. This is not a drill, please consider your footwear carefully." And how is a purse a stupid place to put ammo?
It's at least three days after the outbreaks, probably more. By then, she should realize that running and cardio are the name of the game. Heck, even running around in socks would be a better choice than heels at that point.
As for the ammo, I sure as heck couldn't forget about my pants and leave them on the counter. Leaving clips in a purse is just asking for your supplies to be at a terrible spot at a terrible time.
It's at least three days after the outbreaks, probably more. By then, she should realize that running and cardio are the name of the game. Heck, even running around in socks would be a better choice than heels at that point.
As for the ammo, I sure as heck couldn't forget about my pants and leave them on the counter. Leaving clips in a purse is just asking for your supplies to be at a terrible spot at a terrible time.
also why was her gun unloaded, i thought the point of having a gun was to shoot things, so why wouldnt it be loaded all the time? it has a safety for safety so why wasn't it loaded?
It's at least three days after the outbreaks, probably more. By then, she should realize that running and cardio are the name of the game. Heck, even running around in socks would be a better choice than heels at that point.
As for the ammo, I sure as heck couldn't forget about my pants and leave them on the counter. Leaving clips in a purse is just asking for your supplies to be at a terrible spot at a terrible time.
She was three days out on assignment - it's not like her apartment was around the corner and her purse was just barely out of arms reach. She was certainly better prepared than anyone else there. Just for the record, I can run in heels, most women who wear them regularly can.
also why was her gun unloaded, i thought the point of having a gun was to shoot things, so why wouldnt it be loaded all the time?
Because the gun only holds so many bullets and she already used some (i.e. rescuing Lee's group, killing Clem's zombie, zombie at the motor inn, Irene, and two or three shots when the zombies broke through the barricade).
Because the gun only holds so many bullets and she already used some (i.e. rescuing Lee's group, killing Clem's zombie, zombie at the motor inn, Irene, and two or three shots when the zombies broke through the barricade).
thats plenty of time to load the gun, unless the other clip she had was the last of the bullets she had there would be no reason she wouldn't have two full clips all the time
Maybe she did, I'm assuming she didn't (and so are you), but maybe she went through a whole clip between the time the barricade fell and the time Lee had to save her - it's not like the camera was focused on her the whole time to count rounds.
Maybe she did, I'm assuming she didn't (and so are you), but maybe she went through a whole clip between the time the barricade fell and the time Lee had to save her - it's not like the camera was focused on her the whole time to count rounds.
yeah, i guess i'm just being picky, i know why she had no bullets in her gun really, and that is so we had to save her, but it would have been good to see a legitimate reason she had ran out of bullets
thats plenty of time to load the gun, unless the other clip she had was the last of the bullets she had there would be no reason she wouldn't have two full clips all the time
Carley is not a marine or special forces. She did just fine that day, gave 110% effort and to ask for more is not cool.
Whether you choose her or not, she already saved your life at least twice, not to mention covered your ass at the motor inn.
yeah i know but i was just making fun of Kiel555 seemingly personal defence of carley, it was the kind of defence you would say about your own personal friends/partners as in no actual facts just "they tried hard lay off them"
Women in video games bother me. Carley wears heels in a zombie apocalypse, Rochelle has huge hoop earrings that scream "grab me" on them, and no one ever wears armor. Can anyone write a decently prepared female hero?
yeah i know but i was just making fun of Kiel555 seemingly personal defence of carley, it was the kind of defence you would say about your own personal friends/partners as in no actual facts just "they tried hard lay off them"
Are you accusing me of being friends..even liking Carley?! Oh wait...that's okay. Nevermind.
All I'm saying is that she's not outfitted like an infantry trooper. You know, with all the pockets, and the vest to carry lots of ammo and magazines. Ofcourse there is no defense for not using high capacity magazines, unless she's from California where they are banned.
If she was better outfitted or if anyone in that group had a gun.....maybe Doug would have lived....nah..he was walker bait from the get go.
Women in video games bother me. Carley wears heels in a zombie apocalypse, Rochelle has huge hoop earrings that scream "grab me" on them, and no one ever wears armor. Can anyone write a decently prepared female hero?
why women wear heels puzzles me in normal life let alone in a ZA, so only women be able to tell you why they would still wear them in a ZA
True. It was funny when I was playing the game....I think I said "Him?" at just about the same time Lee said "that guy?". Well, you never can tell. I better stop calling Ben walker bait just in case....starting tomorrow.
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I choose Carley in my first playthrough on the basis that I got to know her better and we did a helluva alot more with Carley than with Doug. Second playthrough I choose Doug and so far I like that playthrough purely on Doug being more obscure but still being useful in certain situations without being able to use a gun.
She's proven to remain cool under pressure, an excellent shot, a good source of morale and takes no crap from anyone. Plus, in the first episode she's proven herself worthy (batteries notwithstanding).
Even though she knows Lee's secret, I would trust her and glad to have her watch my back for the group anytime.
reckon thats your answer right there !
I choose Carley because she's reliable and trustworthy, end of story
I am Lee, Lee is me... and you and him and her...
I love how everyone has these well considered reasons for why they choose who they did. Did everyone pause their game? First time through, it's pure instinct as to who you choose while you scramble for an active point to help the character. In my case it was the girl with the gun because once I helped her she could help herself and then maybe I'd have the option to help Doug.
If she couldn't handle a few zombies while having access to a handgun then she was useless anyway.
Doug seems like a very resourceful guy and may develop more goodies like the alarm trip he made in Episode 2.
Previously Clementine has: Ran from her treehouse and got you a hammer for a babysitter, all of this which was her own initiative to a stranger she had never met before. And, when pressured/asked by Lee to find something, got his father's cane.
Between Clementine's free hands while she's shaking like a leaf over what's happening (When its just as scary as the other events that transpired), to Lee who knew to utilize/get Clementine to get things, I could never quite get where the option was to just have Clementine toss Carley's purse to her while Lee helped Doug. If Clementine previously was too afraid to do these kinds of actions, then sure, it'd be fair, she's a little kid. And if Lee didn't already have a history of asking her to do things during dangerous situations when his hands are busy, then likewise, but this just seemed a little off.
So the choice is fine, the execution seemed a little awkward. Its no wonder there's a couple cases of people being confused at Carley's problem.
Also team Carley for me. She saved Kenny and his Family, Lee, and Clementine in the streets, was willing to save either Lee/Clementine AGAIN, and went to the Glenn thing. She also tries to put out the fires in their social dynamics of screaming at one another. Meanwhile Doug is a smart introvert with an awkward skill-set.
The number one cited reason I see people say they didn't save Carley is because she derped in a highly stressful environment over batteries during a rest period rather than her knowing his history. You know, after she's saved your life twice. That is astonishingly cold to me. It wasn't even about the fact that she could save my life again-- its about me owing a life debt or two her way.
Outstanding! Well said. I saved Carley too. Welcome to the forum.
She was out of ammo wasnt she?
versus:
"Oh no! My ankle! How did that single zombie know my weakness! I can't shake him off because of me being an idiot and wearing heels in a zombie outbreak! And shooting him is out of the question, because I kept my ammo in a stupid spot! Hnnng!"
I chose the fat man, and have not looked back since. Bro's gotta watch out for one another.
Somehow, I doubt there was a memo, "Ladies and Gentlemen, we are about to have a Zombie Apocalypse. This is not a drill, please consider your footwear carefully." And how is a purse a stupid place to put ammo?
It's at least three days after the outbreaks, probably more. By then, she should realize that running and cardio are the name of the game. Heck, even running around in socks would be a better choice than heels at that point.
As for the ammo, I sure as heck couldn't forget about my pants and leave them on the counter. Leaving clips in a purse is just asking for your supplies to be at a terrible spot at a terrible time.
also why was her gun unloaded, i thought the point of having a gun was to shoot things, so why wouldnt it be loaded all the time? it has a safety for safety so why wasn't it loaded?
She was three days out on assignment - it's not like her apartment was around the corner and her purse was just barely out of arms reach. She was certainly better prepared than anyone else there. Just for the record, I can run in heels, most women who wear them regularly can.
Because the gun only holds so many bullets and she already used some (i.e. rescuing Lee's group, killing Clem's zombie, zombie at the motor inn, Irene, and two or three shots when the zombies broke through the barricade).
thats plenty of time to load the gun, unless the other clip she had was the last of the bullets she had there would be no reason she wouldn't have two full clips all the time
but i mean she should have fully loaded it after irene, in all her spare time while listening to the radio
yeah, i guess i'm just being picky, i know why she had no bullets in her gun really, and that is so we had to save her, but it would have been good to see a legitimate reason she had ran out of bullets
Carley is not a marine or special forces. She did just fine that day, gave 110% effort and to ask for more is not cool.
sorry i didnt mean to offend your girlfriend, but this is life or death we are talking about
Yeah! Most marines or special forces can't run in heels, dammit!
Whether you choose her or not, she already saved your life at least twice, not to mention covered your ass at the motor inn.
He he. I know, you want to know where did all the bullets go. She killed a lot of walkers....in all the excitement..I lost count.
yeah i know but i was just making fun of Kiel555 seemingly personal defence of carley, it was the kind of defence you would say about your own personal friends/partners as in no actual facts just "they tried hard lay off them"
She can kill you with her brain AND she has army boots.
Are you accusing me of being friends..even liking Carley?! Oh wait...that's okay. Nevermind.
All I'm saying is that she's not outfitted like an infantry trooper. You know, with all the pockets, and the vest to carry lots of ammo and magazines. Ofcourse there is no defense for not using high capacity magazines, unless she's from California where they are banned.
If she was better outfitted or if anyone in that group had a gun.....maybe Doug would have lived....nah..he was walker bait from the get go.
why women wear heels puzzles me in normal life let alone in a ZA, so only women be able to tell you why they would still wear them in a ZA
In all fairness, he did save Carley's ass.
There's the twist of the game. Lily is not the Lily of The Walking Dead, she's the Lili from Whispering Rock!
The good news is that though they make clumsy survivors, they quickly turn into COMPLETELY INEPT zombies. "Walkers" isn't really the term.
True. It was funny when I was playing the game....I think I said "Him?" at just about the same time Lee said "that guy?". Well, you never can tell. I better stop calling Ben walker bait just in case....starting tomorrow.