Am I the only person around here who was actually satisfied with the portrayal of Clementine in Season 2? 11 year old kids aren't incapable mindless morons, the ones in the apocalypse especially. I mean didn't you learn a lesson from Chuck? Why did you teach her how to use a gun, trim her hair, how to survive, when then you whine about too much work being put on Clementine's shoulders or whatever it is you're displeased with. Clementine can be the true definition of a survivor, she isn't some over-masculine survival genius, she's just a kid who had to learn how to stay alive. Lee believed in her, he DIED for her and now you're here blaming Telltale for their "bad writing" when you just can't accept that even small children can prove to be a much more capable individuals than most of the adults.
I agree, but I think that fact was clouded by the writers didn't have a clear direction in what they were doing. There were threads introduced and dropped, characters who were inconsistent. With Clem it was unrealistic things like kicking a door down and all of the adults not being able to understand what a key was used for. If they had handled these things better and didn't have everyone fawning over her like she was the saviour I doubt there would be much bitching. Sometimes the issue gets clouded though.
Am I the only person around here who was actually satisfied with the portrayal of Clementine in Season 2? 11 year old kids aren't incapable … moremindless morons, the ones in the apocalypse especially. I mean didn't you learn a lesson from Chuck? Why did you teach her how to use a gun, trim her hair, how to survive, when then you whine about too much work being put on Clementine's shoulders or whatever it is you're displeased with. Clementine can be the true definition of a survivor, she isn't some over-masculine survival genius, she's just a kid who had to learn how to stay alive. Lee believed in her, he DIED for her and now you're here blaming Telltale for their "bad writing" when you just can't accept that even small children can prove to be a much more capable individuals than most of the adults.
wait is this confirmed or is it your guess? I HOPE they upgrade their engine , but seeing michonne I don't think it will be THAT much different than season 2. lets cry
Season 3 new dynamics
* New, upgraded fighting system. It seems like telltale is finally starting to have interesting, fun combat seque… morences. I really am getting sick of just pressing buttons to trigger events, I want to be able to think I really am fighting zombies.
* being able to have multiple storylines and protagonists, I want to be able to have multiple storylines and choose how you want to play it out.
* new characters, with recurring themes. In s2, we had too many stupid recurring themes and the only thing that was new about s2 was the ending. What if season 3 is the polar opposite of s1 and 2. What if the Kenny like character dies and the lily like character survives. How awesome would it be if s3 has old and new elements
I agree, but I think that fact was clouded by the writers didn't have a clear direction in what they were doing. There were threads introduc… moreed and dropped, characters who were inconsistent. With Clem it was unrealistic things like kicking a door down and all of the adults not being able to understand what a key was used for. If they had handled these things better and didn't have everyone fawning over her like she was the saviour I doubt there would be much bitching. Sometimes the issue gets clouded though.
"The group wouldn't have survived if it wasn't for her." its irrelevant, the entire group dies anyway, no one survived, thats the problem for playing as a child, too many limitations, i love her character but her achievements are completely unrealistic and irrelevant, I would have preferred to play as lee, he had so much more potential than clementine as a protagonist, if she is the playable character again, it will be all the same, nothing would change, EVERYONE will still take advantage of her, she will remain weak and with her limitations
Helpless? Weak? The group wouldn't have survived if it wasn't for her. Even before she was the playable character she was a dang good shot, … moretoo. I couldn't save Molly when the zombie grabbed her but Clem was all "I got this" and blew his head off with ease.
wait is this confirmed or is it your guess? I HOPE they upgrade their engine , but seeing michonne I don't think it will be THAT much different than season 2. lets cry
I can't remember if Chuck says this, but there's a pretty big case to be made for, depending on the adult in question, children being better suited for survival in a post-apocalyptic world. I don't mean in terms of strength etc. obviously, but in terms of mentality and such as they're growing up in this world whereas some of the adults would have had it easy prior to the outbreak. Basically, the post-apocalyptic world will be, with the exception of the first few years of their life, all they've known.
And actually . . . I would say you could tie strength into this. No, they shouldn't be abnormally strong, but a child that's having to survive in the Walking Dead's world (who isn't being coddled) would likely be stronger than the average child in our world, or rather stronger than each individual normally would be (i.e. rather than a blanket statement, Clem should by all rights be stronger than her pre-apocalypse self). Of course, I don't know whether she'd still be strong enough to kick in the door, but I do remember someone saying it was viable? The key thing I cannot remember clearly at all, as it's been ages since I went through season 2.
Am I the only person around here who was actually satisfied with the portrayal of Clementine in Season 2? 11 year old kids aren't incapable … moremindless morons, the ones in the apocalypse especially. I mean didn't you learn a lesson from Chuck? Why did you teach her how to use a gun, trim her hair, how to survive, when then you whine about too much work being put on Clementine's shoulders or whatever it is you're displeased with. Clementine can be the true definition of a survivor, she isn't some over-masculine survival genius, she's just a kid who had to learn how to stay alive. Lee believed in her, he DIED for her and now you're here blaming Telltale for their "bad writing" when you just can't accept that even small children can prove to be a much more capable individuals than most of the adults.
That's a bummer. then why people are talking about this as if its a fact? its misleading.
on a high note; I really hope they improve visually and technically and that coming from a loyal customer, but I don't think i'll be as supporting if they didn't upgrade their engine next year, its 2016/2017! the quality over quantity any day.
That's why they're probably doing this. To mislead everyone else OR maybe they truly believe in their statements. Either way, I assure you - what he said isn't official. Telltale never said it nor confirmed it.
That's a bummer. then why people are talking about this as if its a fact? its misleading.
on a high note; I really hope they improve visu… moreally and technically and that coming from a loyal customer, but I don't think i'll be as supporting if they didn't upgrade their engine next year, its 2016/2017! the quality over quantity any day.
I don't think any 11 year-old would be able to break down a door with a kick. they simply do not have the strength for that.. even an average adult would need at least a few good tries before any results. a man relatively strong and angry could break a door in 2/3 kicks.
the only explanation I have for Clem's kick would be the fact that the door was already quite rotten and weak. which was probably what happened.
I can't remember if Chuck says this, but there's a pretty big case to be made for, depending on the adult in question, children being better… more suited for survival in a post-apocalyptic world. I don't mean in terms of strength etc. obviously, but in terms of mentality and such as they're growing up in this world whereas some of the adults would have had it easy prior to the outbreak. Basically, the post-apocalyptic world will be, with the exception of the first few years of their life, all they've known.
And actually . . . I would say you could tie strength into this. No, they shouldn't be abnormally strong, but a child that's having to survive in the Walking Dead's world (who isn't being coddled) would likely be stronger than the average child in our world, or rather stronger than each individual normally would be (i.e. rather than a blanket statement, Clem should by all rights be stronger than her pre-apocalypse self). Of course, I don't kn… [view original content]
I don't think any 11 year-old would be able to break down a door with a kick. they simply do not have the strength for that.. even an averag… moree adult would need at least a few good tries before any results. a man relatively strong and angry could break a door in 2/3 kicks.
the only explanation I have for Clem's kick would be the fact that the door was already quite rotten and weak. which was probably what happened.
the only explanation I have for Clem's kick would be the fact that the door was already quite rotten and weak. which was probably what happe… morened.
That, and the fact that hundreds of walkers have been pounding on that door for two and a half years. That could weaken the door even more.
It would be nice if people thought of that rather than jumping to the 'bad writing' conclusion. It feels like people just take things at face value and jump to a conclusion without thinking. At least it feels that way to me, anyway. (Not specifically in reference to this situation, but rather generally whenever the bad writing criticism is used.)
I can't remember who said it wasn't as bad as people made out and could be possible unfortunately. I just know it was someone on this forum. I myself wouldn't have a clue, with never having to research for a project how easy it would be to kick in a door. My knowledge is basically limited to 'police often use a battering ram to bust through a door on assault' or whatever you call it. Which I guess should say something, though I also can't remember if it took multiple hits from Clem to break the door down. My memory really is rusty.
I don't think any 11 year-old would be able to break down a door with a kick. they simply do not have the strength for that.. even an averag… moree adult would need at least a few good tries before any results. a man relatively strong and angry could break a door in 2/3 kicks.
the only explanation I have for Clem's kick would be the fact that the door was already quite rotten and weak. which was probably what happened.
That's why they're probably doing this. To mislead everyone else OR maybe they truly believe in their statements. Either way, I assure you - what he said isn't official. Telltale never said it nor confirmed it.
I don't think a new fightsystem is necessery. I pick QTEs over that Minecraft Story Mode fight System. But TTG could make them more interesting, like give us a Choice what attack we want to Do.
Season 3 new dynamics
* New, upgraded fighting system. It seems like telltale is finally starting to have interesting, fun combat seque… morences. I really am getting sick of just pressing buttons to trigger events, I want to be able to think I really am fighting zombies.
* being able to have multiple storylines and protagonists, I want to be able to have multiple storylines and choose how you want to play it out.
* new characters, with recurring themes. In s2, we had too many stupid recurring themes and the only thing that was new about s2 was the ending. What if season 3 is the polar opposite of s1 and 2. What if the Kenny like character dies and the lily like character survives. How awesome would it be if s3 has old and new elements
It would be nice if people thought of that rather than jumping to the 'bad writing' conclusion. It feels like people just take things at face value and jump to a conclusion without thinking. At least it feels that way to me, anyway. (Not specifically in reference to this situation, but rather generally whenever the bad writing criticism is used.)
I fully agree! just because you haven't had the ability to understand something, or was too lazy to try to reason logically, critically and creatively a certain event, doesn't mean it was "poorly written"...
Which I guess should say something, though I also can't remember if it took multiple hits from Clem to break the door down. My memory really is rusty.
That's possible.
It would be nice if people thought of that rather than jumping to the 'bad writing' conclusion. It feels like people ju… morest take things at face value and jump to a conclusion without thinking. At least it feels that way to me, anyway. (Not specifically in reference to this situation, but rather generally whenever the bad writing criticism is used.)
I can't remember who said it wasn't as bad as people made out and could be possible unfortunately. I just know it was someone on this forum. I myself wouldn't have a clue, with never having to research for a project how easy it would be to kick in a door. My knowledge is basically limited to 'police often use a battering ram to bust through a door on assault' or whatever you call it. Which I guess should say something, though I also can't remember if it took multiple hits from Clem to break the door down. My memory really is rusty.
Did it myself at 12 to a trailer door! They are cheap as hell, besides its not like she kicked off the hinges or broke the lock. Just needed that plywood door jam to give and it did. So to explain myself I'm male and at 12 I went back to a trailer to reclaim a transformer left in my former residence. The land lord had died no one had keys! 98 4ft nothing me kicked it open in 3 or 4 kicks! No life on the line just a stupid toy! So I see no problem with Clem doing so with her life on the line.
I don't think any 11 year-old would be able to break down a door with a kick. they simply do not have the strength for that.. even an averag… moree adult would need at least a few good tries before any results. a man relatively strong and angry could break a door in 2/3 kicks.
the only explanation I have for Clem's kick would be the fact that the door was already quite rotten and weak. which was probably what happened.
One possible way they could go about season 3 is having it unfold from Christa's perspective as she searches for Clementine. She could come … moreacross some ramshackle campsite where Clementine was holding up, and find a tape recorder. She could also notice a grave nearby, with a makeshift cross wedged in the ground. (If Clem was alone at the end of S2, there wouldn't be any grave at the campsite.) Depending on the ending from S2, the voice on the tape could be Kenny, Jane, Edith, or Clementine herself. The recording would then disclose what ultimately happened to whoever Clem chose to remain with:
KENNY. Shot in the leg by a bandit. The wound turned gangrenous, and Kenny recorded a final message for Clem before shooting himself in the head.
JANE. Bit by a zombie. Like Kenny, she leaves one last message for Clem before taking her own life.
EDITH. Succumbs to depression and post-apocalyptic trauma (Wellington fell to either zombies or band… [view original content]
Yea true. Just curious, what did u do at the end? Jane or Kenny Or even none? Mt first play threw I killed Kenny and immediately regretted it. Then found out AJ was alive so I killed Kenny for no reason and I left her ass. I'm gonna play it a second time but I have no idea what I'm gonna do? I mean Jane is smart. She shows you more skills on how to survive. She loose her cool Kenny style but she will leave your ass if your in a tight spot. Kenny on the other hand is damaged from loosing so many people he cared about and admits it while trying to work on it. He will never hurt or leave you no matter what and hes pretty much family. Hes not scared to kill a living person to protect the group. Opinions?
I said 11. you were 12.. there is a huge difference dude...
..nah.. just kidding! hahahah!
A trailer door must naturally be much weaker than a conventional door.. I don't think you would've been able to break it down if it were your house's door for example. the question of "your life is on the line" is something valid, and can greatly influence the strength of a person in extreme danger indeed.
Did it myself at 12 to a trailer door! They are cheap as hell, besides its not like she kicked off the hinges or broke the lock. Just needed… more that plywood door jam to give and it did. So to explain myself I'm male and at 12 I went back to a trailer to reclaim a transformer left in my former residence. The land lord had died no one had keys! 98 4ft nothing me kicked it open in 3 or 4 kicks! No life on the line just a stupid toy! So I see no problem with Clem doing so with her life on the line.
Walking Dead: Season 2 was a super quick release, not only in Telltale's terms but also in general video game terms. Most games usually get full sequels much longer than one year after the original game ended. Besides, we should be glad that Telltale is spending more time on Season 3 so it isn't rushed.
If you are jonesing for more Telltale Walking Dead, they also have the three Episode Michonne mini series premiering next Tuesday.
EDIT: Wow, I missed the post date and thought I was replying to a recent post because I saw Romaoplay's recent post above me.
Walking Dead: Season 2 was a super quick release, not only in Telltale's terms but also in general video game terms. Most games usually get … morefull sequels much longer than one year after the original game ended. Besides, we should be glad that Telltale is spending more time on Season 3 so it isn't rushed.
If you are jonesing for more Telltale Walking Dead, they also have the three Episode Michonne mini series premiering next Tuesday.
EDIT: Wow, I missed the post date and thought I was replying to a recent post because I saw Romaoplay's recent post above me.
Don't be silly. Telltale doesn't care whether people like Clem or not, Telltale only wants to shove her down our throats and hope we accept it. I, wanting to play Season 3, am forcing myself to accept it a little more each day.
Telltale sounds like a broken record. They keep repeating "This will be a big year for the Walking Dead" in every single update, and now I'm intrigued. I hope S3 isn't that bad.
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LMAO I'm saving this for a good laugh
again people seem to be smashing their head with a pebble. MULTIPLE PROTAGONIST along with Clementine. its not so hard folks.
Am I the only person around here who was actually satisfied with the portrayal of Clementine in Season 2? 11 year old kids aren't incapable mindless morons, the ones in the apocalypse especially. I mean didn't you learn a lesson from Chuck? Why did you teach her how to use a gun, trim her hair, how to survive, when then you whine about too much work being put on Clementine's shoulders or whatever it is you're displeased with. Clementine can be the true definition of a survivor, she isn't some over-masculine survival genius, she's just a kid who had to learn how to stay alive. Lee believed in her, he DIED for her and now you're here blaming Telltale for their "bad writing" when you just can't accept that even small children can prove to be a much more capable individuals than most of the adults.
I agree, but I think that fact was clouded by the writers didn't have a clear direction in what they were doing. There were threads introduced and dropped, characters who were inconsistent. With Clem it was unrealistic things like kicking a door down and all of the adults not being able to understand what a key was used for. If they had handled these things better and didn't have everyone fawning over her like she was the saviour I doubt there would be much bitching. Sometimes the issue gets clouded though.
wait is this confirmed or is it your guess? I HOPE they upgrade their engine
, but seeing michonne I don't think it will be THAT much different than season 2. lets cry
I like playing as Clem ;-;
I thought the issue was that they didn't SEE the key , since you can't see it until Clem flicks on her lighter.
"The group wouldn't have survived if it wasn't for her." its irrelevant, the entire group dies anyway, no one survived, thats the problem for playing as a child, too many limitations, i love her character but her achievements are completely unrealistic and irrelevant, I would have preferred to play as lee, he had so much more potential than clementine as a protagonist, if she is the playable character again, it will be all the same, nothing would change, EVERYONE will still take advantage of her, she will remain weak and with her limitations
It's just a guess, Telltale never confirmed any of those things.
I can't remember if Chuck says this, but there's a pretty big case to be made for, depending on the adult in question, children being better suited for survival in a post-apocalyptic world. I don't mean in terms of strength etc. obviously, but in terms of mentality and such as they're growing up in this world whereas some of the adults would have had it easy prior to the outbreak. Basically, the post-apocalyptic world will be, with the exception of the first few years of their life, all they've known.
And actually . . . I would say you could tie strength into this. No, they shouldn't be abnormally strong, but a child that's having to survive in the Walking Dead's world (who isn't being coddled) would likely be stronger than the average child in our world, or rather stronger than each individual normally would be (i.e. rather than a blanket statement, Clem should by all rights be stronger than her pre-apocalypse self). Of course, I don't know whether she'd still be strong enough to kick in the door, but I do remember someone saying it was viable? The key thing I cannot remember clearly at all, as it's been ages since I went through season 2.
That's a bummer. then why people are talking about this as if its a fact? its misleading.
on a high note; I really hope they improve visually and technically and that coming from a loyal customer, but I don't think i'll be as supporting if they didn't upgrade their engine next year, its 2016/2017! the quality over quantity any day.
That's why they're probably doing this. To mislead everyone else OR maybe they truly believe in their statements. Either way, I assure you - what he said isn't official. Telltale never said it nor confirmed it.
I don't think any 11 year-old would be able to break down a door with a kick. they simply do not have the strength for that.. even an average adult would need at least a few good tries before any results. a man relatively strong and angry could break a door in 2/3 kicks.
the only explanation I have for Clem's kick would be the fact that the door was already quite rotten and weak. which was probably what happened.
It could've also been that the button causes the complete lodge to self-destruct and that's why they didn't turn it with the key.
That, and the fact that hundreds of walkers have been pounding on that door for two and a half years. That could weaken the door even more.
Yes! well remembered. that contributed a lot too!
That's possible.
It would be nice if people thought of that rather than jumping to the 'bad writing' conclusion.
It feels like people just take things at face value and jump to a conclusion without thinking. At least it feels that way to me, anyway. (Not specifically in reference to this situation, but rather generally whenever the bad writing criticism is used.)
I can't remember who said it wasn't as bad as people made out and could be possible unfortunately. I just know it was someone on this forum. I myself wouldn't have a clue, with never having to research for a project how easy it would be to kick in a door. My knowledge is basically limited to 'police often use a battering ram to bust through a door on assault' or whatever you call it.
Which I guess should say something, though I also can't remember if it took multiple hits from Clem to break the door down. My memory really is rusty.
It was just a guess.
She reminded me a lot of Becca.
Not saying both of them are little angsty teens, just that they were alike personality-wise.
I don't think a new fightsystem is necessery. I pick QTEs over that Minecraft Story Mode fight System. But TTG could make them more interesting, like give us a Choice what attack we want to Do.
I fully agree! just because you haven't had the ability to understand something, or was too lazy to try to reason logically, critically and creatively a certain event, doesn't mean it was "poorly written"...
She broke it in two kicks.
I meant age wise and the fact that they're both in zombie apocalypses.
Did it myself at 12 to a trailer door! They are cheap as hell, besides its not like she kicked off the hinges or broke the lock. Just needed that plywood door jam to give and it did. So to explain myself I'm male and at 12 I went back to a trailer to reclaim a transformer left in my former residence. The land lord had died no one had keys! 98 4ft nothing me kicked it open in 3 or 4 kicks! No life on the line just a stupid toy! So I see no problem with Clem doing so with her life on the line.
I don't think so many people would suicide like that
Yea true. Just curious, what did u do at the end? Jane or Kenny Or even none? Mt first play threw I killed Kenny and immediately regretted it. Then found out AJ was alive so I killed Kenny for no reason and I left her ass. I'm gonna play it a second time but I have no idea what I'm gonna do? I mean Jane is smart. She shows you more skills on how to survive. She loose her cool Kenny style but she will leave your ass if your in a tight spot. Kenny on the other hand is damaged from loosing so many people he cared about and admits it while trying to work on it. He will never hurt or leave you no matter what and hes pretty much family. Hes not scared to kill a living person to protect the group. Opinions?
I said 11. you were 12.. there is a huge difference dude...
..nah.. just kidding! hahahah!
A trailer door must naturally be much weaker than a conventional door.. I don't think you would've been able to break it down if it were your house's door for example. the question of "your life is on the line" is something valid, and can greatly influence the strength of a person in extreme danger indeed.
*26 ;-;
Walking Dead: Season 2 was a super quick release, not only in Telltale's terms but also in general video game terms. Most games usually get full sequels much longer than one year after the original game ended. Besides, we should be glad that Telltale is spending more time on Season 3 so it isn't rushed.
If you are jonesing for more Telltale Walking Dead, they also have the three Episode Michonne mini series premiering next Tuesday.
EDIT: Wow, I missed the post date and thought I was replying to a recent post because I saw Romaoplay's recent post above me.
It's only been around 19 or so months since season 2 ended ^-^
But season 3 is not out yet :P (I just doubled the value u.u)
hehehe
But we are getting more walking dead next week! ^-^
I just need to get the money for it!! ( which my take one or two mounths ;--------------------------; )
A lot of girl are in zombie apocalypses these days, huh?
Yeah , kids these days , battling the undead. Back in the day this never happened.
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OMG I so hope they bring Luke back!
I second it as well, or is it called thirding? What is the proper term?
Don't be silly. Telltale doesn't care whether people like Clem or not, Telltale only wants to shove her down our throats and hope we accept it. I, wanting to play Season 3, am forcing myself to accept it a little more each day.
Telltale sounds like a broken record. They keep repeating "This will be a big year for the Walking Dead" in every single update, and now I'm intrigued. I hope S3 isn't that bad.