'A New Frontier': A Time Capsule of the S3 Waiting Thread; Head to the Ep 1 Waiting Thread for news

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  • I'm telling you the best route would be:

    You play as someone else and the actions of Clementine and her attitude to certain things differ on what you taught her in Season 1 and what she experienced in Season 2. So for example, if you come across a zombie on a chain-link fence. Clementine may be too saddened and would prefer you to kill it as it reminds her of Nick if you had him alive in Episode 4. But if you didn't have Nick survive, Clementine kills it easily, perhaps opening two different dialogue options based on whether she was upset or how easy it was to kill it.

    The second option is to play as a somewhat older Clementine granted we skip two years, but that's it.

  • I won't either. Just like the show's main character is Rick, the game's main character is Clementine. Without her there will be no character development to continue.

    Clem4S3 posted: »

    If Clem isn't the main/player character I probably won't buy season 3. As far as I'm concerned her story isn't over and if (keyword "If") Te

  • edited March 2016

    I have officially taken Season 3 off of my "looking forward to" list.

    The "new beginning" stuff and "That doesn't mean that any specific characters are confirmed, even seemingly obvious ones" doesn't sound too promising. It sounds like they are pushing a new main character that will see just some kind of aftermath from your choices in S1+2. The only obvious character is Clementine, all other characters are either dead, have an unknown fate or determinant.

    The biggest thing I'm taking away from all this is they have been reading the forums here and see the divide fans have and are trying to make something that pleases everyone, but in the process will most likely make something that pleases no one.

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    I don't mind who is going to be the next playable character in season 3 as long as the story is about Clementine and that we get more character development from her.

  • There's literally no winning with some people.

    "I want Clementine as the main character WAH! If she isn't in the game I'm not gonna BUY IT!!!".

    "Boo! Clementine sucked as the main character I hope we get a new one or I'll hate Telltale FOREVER!!!".

  • It was, but Judy had a hard time phrasing it so he decided to change it for her.

    Funny, could have sworn he was Fitzgerald.

  • I'm sure Telltale's loving it!

    There's literally no winning with some people. "I want Clementine as the main character WAH! If she isn't in the game I'm not gonna BUY I

  • and we can't have both why?

    There's literally no winning with some people. "I want Clementine as the main character WAH! If she isn't in the game I'm not gonna BUY I

  • Telltale should just do what they want to do with the story. They shouldn't let anybody on this forum influence their decision.

    There's literally no winning with some people. "I want Clementine as the main character WAH! If she isn't in the game I'm not gonna BUY I

  • I just don't see how playing as a new character is a great idea.

  • Neither do I. Clementine is the main character in the game like it or not. I don't see anyone complaining about Rick being the main character in the show and saying he should be either written out or pushed to the side.

    I just don't see how playing as a new character is a great idea.

  • Exactly, I don't see how you can call it The Walking Dead season 3 anymore, telltale's TWD has always been a Clem/Lee story, why change that?

    alexgo posted: »

    Neither do I. Clementine is the main character in the game like it or not. I don't see anyone complaining about Rick being the main character in the show and saying he should be either written out or pushed to the side.

  • To be fair, those are two distinct groups of people with opposite opinions. I haven't seen anyone stating both… not yet at least.

    There's literally no winning with some people. "I want Clementine as the main character WAH! If she isn't in the game I'm not gonna BUY I

  • There can be a different playable character, with a fresh outlook on the outbreak, with Clementine still being the main character. The first one means the person who one controls, while the second one means the person whom the story revolves around.

    alexgo posted: »

    Neither do I. Clementine is the main character in the game like it or not. I don't see anyone complaining about Rick being the main character in the show and saying he should be either written out or pushed to the side.

  • I hope Clem is the PC , but I won't mind if we play as Christa.

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    The biggest thing I'm taking away from all this is they have been reading the forums here and see the divide fans have and are trying to make something that pleases everyone, but in the process will most likely make something that pleases no one.

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    No, please no.

    alexgo posted: »

    I have officially taken Season 3 off of my "looking forward to" list. The "new beginning" stuff and "That doesn't mean that any specific

  • edited March 2016

    I think you can. It would, however, be ideal to have ties to previous seasons whether that be characters, locations etc. which connect back to what's happened previously. If there are no ties and it's simply a fresh start in the same world, like Fear the Walking Dead was for the tv show, I see no point in labelling it season 3. Instead, it'd be a spin-off, which is fine, but I'd be confused as to why it's got the season 3 label.

    Anyhow, this part is telling here:

    No more details on #TWD S3 until this summer, but the main takeaway is that it will be just as much a new beginning as it is a continuation.

    Continuation, so expect elements from previous games to carry over. So, I guess prior events will be relevant enough for it to be considered season 3.

    And as BetterToSleep said, more than one playable character is an option. Personally, I'd see it gives them more leeway to craft a more well-rounded story, as you can show the story from multiple perspectives.

    Exactly, I don't see how you can call it The Walking Dead season 3 anymore, telltale's TWD has always been a Clem/Lee story, why change that?

  • edited March 2016

    To be honest, I'm not too bothered about who we will play as in Season 3. If its someone new, though, I would find that quite interesting.

    I'm guessing that the first episode will be released about the end of the year, December most likely (like Season 2's first episode). So, quite a bit of waiting to come, but, I think it will be all worth it in the end.

  • edited March 2016

    Tbh I think having different playable characters could be cool, like you have Clem carrying on her story and then you have Christa still trying to find her.

    So for example if you had the Wellington ending, ep1 would start with Clem and Christa getting separated in All That Remains then it would skip ahead to after the end of season 2 with Clem living at Wellington with AJ. Eventually it would get attacked and Clem would flee with Edith. Then it would go to Christa who is with a group but is still looking for Clem after all this time. The episode would end with Christa learning that Wellington was attacked and, after remembering that it was her goal when she was looking after Clem, she would set off there.

    Ep2 would then start with Clem and Edith in a forest (or something like that) trying to find somewhere safe. They would get attacked by walkers and in the struggle Clementine would drop her hat, with her being forced to leave it behind so they can escape. Christa would end up finding it and she will follow their footsteps to try meet up with them.

    In ep3 Clem would end up being separated from Edith and would find somewhere to hide, breaking down over what she's been through. Christa would find Edith and they work together to find Clementine. They end up reuniting at the end of the episode.

    Then in ep4 Christa would come to find out how much Clem had changed from the little girl that she used to know, as she is now strong and followed in what Christa taught her.

  • Yeah, without Clem, Season 3 is only a spin off like the Michonne story.
    In 400 Days we have a lot of characters but, no one is charismatic like Clementine.
    Change her is a bad idea (look Assassin'S Creed without Desmond Miles).
    She is the protagonist of the story from the beginning (and what a story!).

    Exactly, I don't see how you can call it The Walking Dead season 3 anymore, telltale's TWD has always been a Clem/Lee story, why change that?

  • edited March 2016

    Have there been any other games where the main character isn't the playable character?

    There can be a different playable character, with a fresh outlook on the outbreak, with Clementine still being the main character. The first one means the person who one controls, while the second one means the person whom the story revolves around.

  • The Walking Dead Season 1. The playable character was Lee, but the overall story was about Clementine and how the apocalypse was going to affect her.

    alexgo posted: »

    Have there been any other games where the main character isn't the playable character?

  • edited March 2016

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    "WHO WILL YOU BECOME?"

    Yeah, that's the POINT.
    A protagonist without a past is nothing.
    The past have an important role in The Walking Dead because it's thanks of him if a character grow up.
    Look the characters in the Comic, look Rick, he is changed a lot and, he is the protagonist of the comic since 2003!!
    So, why we have to change a charismatic character like Clem?
    She is the protagonist of the videogame and she grow up Season by Season with our decisions.
    I repeat: Who will you become? A sweet girl or a badass? With Clem your can do whatever you want.
    She drags a heavy past on her shoulders, and she can be a great woman.
    Here an adult version of Clementine:
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    We can see her sad past in her eyes, she has experience, she can be a leader...
    (Oh! And she looks badass at the same way of Daryl Dixon!)

  • Actually, I'm not a fan of multiple playable characters, at least not in post-apocalyptic video games like in The Walking Dead. I've heard that it worked alright on Tales From The Borderland and Game Of Thrones, though.

    The point I was trying to make is that they can create a new playable character who we control and make decisions for, which would offer a new perspective, while still keeping Clem as a central part of the game. In the first season we played as Lee, but the overall story was about the little girl he was looking after, and not him. I believe the third season can have both of them as the main characters, the only difference being that we only control one of them. This would allow Clementine to finally have her own distinct personality.

    Rob_K posted: »

    I think you can. It would, however, be ideal to have ties to previous seasons whether that be characters, locations etc. which connect back

  • dojo32161dojo32161 Moderator

    I've heard that it worked alright on Tales From The Borderland

    It worked amazingly in TFTB, you gotta try it.

    Actually, I'm not a fan of multiple playable characters, at least not in post-apocalyptic video games like in The Walking Dead. I've heard t

  • Its epic look

    "WHO WILL YOU BECOME?" Yeah, that's the POINT. A protagonist without a past is nothing. The past have an important role in The Walking

  • I might try it in the future then, but to be honest, I've come across many spoilers about what happened—which shouldn't have been where they were—so I doubt any twist will get me. I get it that the story has a humorous tone?

    dojo32161 posted: »

    I've heard that it worked alright on Tales From The Borderland It worked amazingly in TFTB, you gotta try it.

  • It's hilarious. Like, really funny most of the time. But it also doesn't lack emotional moments and character development. Overall probably Telltale's best so far, even though not many people outside this forum seem to think so.

    I might try it in the future then, but to be honest, I've come across many spoilers about what happened—which shouldn't have been where they were—so I doubt any twist will get me. I get it that the story has a humorous tone?

  • dojo32161dojo32161 Moderator

    Yeah it's really funny, I'd say it's still worth playing even if you know the big twists just for the jokes, out of curiosity what spoilers did you come across by the way? (mark them in a spoiler comment so no one else comes across them).

    I might try it in the future then, but to be honest, I've come across many spoilers about what happened—which shouldn't have been where they were—so I doubt any twist will get me. I get it that the story has a humorous tone?

  • That poster is fantastic.

    "WHO WILL YOU BECOME?" Yeah, that's the POINT. A protagonist without a past is nothing. The past have an important role in The Walking

  • Someone named Vazquez dying, Rhys staying with Fiona or Sasha, and the choice to rule Hyperion. As I said, I haven't played yet, so I don't know when and how they happen.

    dojo32161 posted: »

    Yeah it's really funny, I'd say it's still worth playing even if you know the big twists just for the jokes, out of curiosity what spoilers did you come across by the way? (mark them in a spoiler comment so no one else comes across them).

  • dojo32161dojo32161 Moderator

    Those aren't really big spoilers, at least not as big as some others, so you'd be mostly fine.

  • How was Clementine the main character in Season 1 when Lee had way more screen time than she did? Season 1 was just as much about Clem as it was about Kenny and Ben with Lee being the character there for the development of all three characters and any side characters such as Duck.

    The Walking Dead Season 1. The playable character was Lee, but the overall story was about Clementine and how the apocalypse was going to affect her.

  • Well said and love the art!

    "WHO WILL YOU BECOME?" Yeah, that's the POINT. A protagonist without a past is nothing. The past have an important role in The Walking

  • What I'm about to say is a little off-topic, but I want Magna to become a main character so badly, because they set that expectation over her. I cheer up every time she appears on an issue, even if she's just sweeping some leafs in the background.

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    I'm trying not to get too hopeful, but I will be SO relieved if there's a new (adult) protagonist.

  • I don't think Magna would have enough foundation to become the main character; not yet at least. I actually meant that I'd like her to become a relevant character like Andrea, Eugene, Michonne, Jesus and Maggie. Guess I didn't explain it clearly.

  • I think wanting Clem to be a badass is missing the point of her character. In Season 1, she was vulnerable and inquisitive. I mean, she was going to be hardened by the Apocalypse eventually, but I think Season 2 pushed it too early/suddenly and tried to overcompensate for having her be the playable character.

    "WHO WILL YOU BECOME?" Yeah, that's the POINT. A protagonist without a past is nothing. The past have an important role in The Walking

  • edited March 2016

    I think it makes it all the more interesting if we don't know the S3 protagonists past, as it leaves a lot of great potential as to what s/he did to get to where s/he is now.

    Uh, a character with a mysterious past...
    Maybe an adult, right? You guys want an adult.. Wait, it's not her?

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    They could have been a complete monster in the past that is trying to redeem themselves, and they can see helping people like Clementine as that possibility for redemption.

    Yeah, for help someone in a redemption you need a character who have done difficult choises in her/his past.

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    I think wanting Clem to be a badass is missing the point of her character. In Season 1, she was vulnerable and inquisitive. I mean, she was going to be hardened by the Apocalypse eventually, but I think Season 2 pushed it too early/suddenly and tried to overcompensate for having her be the playable character.

    Well, in the beginning of Season Two she is STILL a vulnerable child and Omid dies for her fault.
    First Lee, now Omid (And Christa lost her baby)... Of course Clementine is changed!
    Isn't true, she isn't a badass, you can choose.
    For example, you can choose of you want kill the dog or not:
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    You can choose if you want to see Kenny when he Kills Carver or not:
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    So, she is not a badass.
    If we want a badass Clementine well, it's our choice.

    I think wanting Clem to be a badass is missing the point of her character. In Season 1, she was vulnerable and inquisitive. I mean, she was

  • edited March 2016

    Yeah, your idea is a great compromise for all of us.
    It's a smart comment.
    Two different characters in one Season with two interwoven stories:

    -Episode One: Christa

    -Episode Two: Clementine

    -Episode Three: Christa

    -Episode Four: Clementine

    -Episode Five: Clementine or Christa (depend of a previous decision) and the other character in this episode cover the role of deuteragonist.

    I had thought the same thing but with a different situation:

    Maybe after Season 3, Telltale could make another spin off like Michonne miniserie but with a boy ( called... Jeff? Or Matthew? Ok, I call him Matthew for now) in quality of protagonist.

    In Season 4 we can import the save data from The Walking Dead Season 3 and the new spin off with Matthew.
    So we can use Clem (now she is a teenager in this Season) and Matthew.
    In this story they will have a meeting and they will start a relationship together (the first romance of Clementine).
    So we have:

    -Episode One: Clementine

    -Episode Two: Matthew

    -Episode Three: Clementine

    -Episode Four: Matthew

    -Episode Five: Clementine

    In Episode Five we have only Clementine because Matthew dies, killed by Negan.

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    After this umpteenth death, in the season finale, Clementine will assume temporarily an attitude similar to Lily (craziness, solitude, fear) and she is ready for Season Five.

    Clem4S3 posted: »

    Tbh I think having different playable characters could be cool, like you have Clem carrying on her story and then you have Christa still try

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