Am I really the only one who thinks Season 3 is going to be divided and extremely different on your ending, thus why its even taking so much longer for it to come out in the first place?
Am I really the only one who thinks Season 3 is going to be divided and extremely different on your ending, thus why its even taking so much longer for it to come out in the first place?
I have been thinking. How does anyone feel if Season 3 have two playable protagonists? One is of course Clementine. The other is a new character that can bring some fresh new point of view.
im not to excited. maybe its just an announcement and reveal trailer like the season 2 trailer. i wanted this game to at least come in the early 2017. just wanted them to really plan out this season. like i said for me longer episodes, two protagonist, more variety of gameplay and harder choices is what it would take for me to be a much greater game. and i mean also greater than season 1. TT is gonna have to step up here, they set the bar with borderlands so i dont expect anything short of Tftbl level of greatness. i just cant accept anything less, bar was set.
i dont want to sound too harsh, but it's my love. this game has hit me hard and i love it and I AM excited for this, but i just want this game to be great. i still really like season 2, but i didnt love it, love it. it has its flaws but i still enjoy it and i still love the character and dont feel their story is over. OHHH BTW, TT....please, PLEASE NO BULLSHIT insta canon characters death! or have them die for that matter. again we dont know if even Clem is the protagonist. so we dont know if they, or how much they'll use those different endings, but still... for this game something new, something bigger, bolder should be made.
I am just curious if Lilly will show up again. I mean i was never said if she survived or not. Would be hell of a wake up call for Clem she like she shows up in wellington. lol
What if they focus on a new group for Season 3, and have them pass different locations from Season 2 (such as Howes, Wellington, the empty f… moreield, etc) and have the new characters encounter Clementine earlier or later at a different point in the story based on the Season 2 ending you got?
Telltale treats their games - including Season 1 - as interactive moves/TV shows more than games, so I would not count on "more gameplay" and "longer episodes".
im not to excited. maybe its just an announcement and reveal trailer like the season 2 trailer. i wanted this game to at least come in the e… morearly 2017. just wanted them to really plan out this season. like i said for me longer episodes, two protagonist, more variety of gameplay and harder choices is what it would take for me to be a much greater game. and i mean also greater than season 1. TT is gonna have to step up here, they set the bar with borderlands so i dont expect anything short of Tftbl level of greatness. i just cant accept anything less, bar was set.
i dont want to sound too harsh, but it's my love. this game has hit me hard and i love it and I AM excited for this, but i just want this game to be great. i still really like season 2, but i didnt love it, love it. it has its flaws but i still enjoy it and i still love the character and dont feel their story is over. OHHH BTW, TT....please, PLEASE NO BULLSHIT insta canon characters… [view original content]
The article makes me less excited for Season 3 actually. This quote in particular:
The Walking Dead: Season 2 felt as final as any Telltale game ever has. It capped off Clementine's story in a way that provided closure, but also featured a stunning diversity of possible endings.
It didn't provide any closure for Clem's story. The endings were completely ambiguous and uncertain. Heck, one of the endings even hinted that things were going to go sour.
I really hope they keep Clem as the main playable character because she is the greatest character in video game history and her story is not over.
It's unclear if Clementine will still be the playable character but the quote below makes me think that she will (hopefully) be involved in the story somehow as it would be fairly pointless to import decisions from the first two seasons if Clem isn't involved in the story.
"We've got a strategy to help Season 3 players ... collect all their data from the previous games. [W]e didn't have the cloud services in Season 1 that we have now," Bruner said. "So we're going to have a solution for everybody that we're not talking about it yet."
It seems like they want to make the game appealing to both new players who don't know the story from the first two seasons and old players who want to carry on form season 2.
"How do we go back and make sure all Walking Dead fans can get in while still keeping all of our storylines going? I think where we're landing with the story for Season 3 does a really good job of both of those things.
"It allows people who maybe haven't people who maybe haven't played [the first two seasons] to come in and get up to speed really quickly. But it definitely respects, honors and facilitates all of the various end points that Season 2 had."
They are going to release more information at the San Diego Comic Con in July so hopefully we will find out more information then.
The article makes me less excited for Season 3 actually. This quote in particular:
The Walking Dead: Season 2 felt as final as any Tel… moreltale game ever has. It capped off Clementine's story in a way that provided closure, but also featured a stunning diversity of possible endings.
It didn't provide any closure for Clem's story. The endings were completely ambiguous and uncertain. Heck, one of the endings even hinted that things were going to go sour.
I really hope they keep Clem as the main playable character because she is the greatest character in video game history and her story is not over.
I'm really hoping she stays the main protagonist, just so we can see how she is growing up. Season 2 was great in showing how her attitude is dramatically changing, but Season 3 would be even better if she was even a teenager. I've always assumed that Clementine IS Telltale's The Walking Dead, from the very beginning she is what the focus is on and therefore it should be HER story. We were Clem's protector in Season 1, then we change her our own way in Season 2, and now we see her REALLY grow up in Season 3 if she becomes more mature for example.
The article makes me less excited for Season 3 actually. This quote in particular:
The Walking Dead: Season 2 felt as final as any Tel… moreltale game ever has. It capped off Clementine's story in a way that provided closure, but also featured a stunning diversity of possible endings.
It didn't provide any closure for Clem's story. The endings were completely ambiguous and uncertain. Heck, one of the endings even hinted that things were going to go sour.
I really hope they keep Clem as the main playable character because she is the greatest character in video game history and her story is not over.
The article makes me less excited for Season 3 actually. This quote in particular:
The Walking Dead: Season 2 felt as final as any Tel… moreltale game ever has. It capped off Clementine's story in a way that provided closure, but also featured a stunning diversity of possible endings.
It didn't provide any closure for Clem's story. The endings were completely ambiguous and uncertain. Heck, one of the endings even hinted that things were going to go sour.
I really hope they keep Clem as the main playable character because she is the greatest character in video game history and her story is not over.
It seems to actually say that from the various end points they will honor it to some degree. From that I can take it as they do some kind of look back on it. Or maybe throughout the game they do flashbacks of how you got from your end point to your current position. It really seems like how they usually do things but more "artsy".
Either way I'm interested in seeing how it turns out.
it seems like they may just go for a pretty simple explanation to get them to a place where the story can take place
make it… more worst if they made pretty much the Kenny ending canon with Clem ending up in that camp regardless.
The Mashable article addresses both of those concerns, and says they wont choose one particular ending as canon, nor will they tie all the endings together in a simple and expected way.
Job just tweeted this
No more details on #TWD S3 until this summer, but the main takeaway is that it will be just as much a new beginn… moreing as it is a continuation.
https://twitter.com/jobjstauffer/status/712727798733873152
The fact it's going to be a continuation as well as a "new begenning" is interesting.
Edit: He also tweeted this
That doesn't mean that any specific characters are confirmed, even seemingly obvious ones, but stay tuned later this year for more news.
https://twitter.com/jobjstauffer/status/712728541125709824
Job just tweeted this
No more details on #TWD S3 until this summer, but the main takeaway is that it will be just as much a new beginn… moreing as it is a continuation.
https://twitter.com/jobjstauffer/status/712727798733873152
The fact it's going to be a continuation as well as a "new begenning" is interesting.
Edit: He also tweeted this
That doesn't mean that any specific characters are confirmed, even seemingly obvious ones, but stay tuned later this year for more news.
https://twitter.com/jobjstauffer/status/712728541125709824
From Job's tweet about new beginnings and Bruner's tidbit on introducing new players (specifically walking dead fans, not Telltale fans), I'm thinking it's going to be a new playable character that will meet Clem at some point, where and in what circumstances being dependent on your choices. I still think the story will ultimately be about Clem, or at least mainly, but there may be extra emphasis on another character or characters' story.
Sounds a lot like they'll be pushing for a new protagonist. Not to say Clem might not be a protagonist at all, but just sounds like it'll be somebody new with the whole new beginning business. I mean it'd make sense, introduce new gamers to the series by introducing a new character with a fresh untold story and show their experience of the ZA, perhaps even how it kicked off for them.
I still hope it's Simon. I know he had a short scene, but he was pretty good in Episode 3.
Job just tweeted this
No more details on #TWD S3 until this summer, but the main takeaway is that it will be just as much a new beginn… moreing as it is a continuation.
https://twitter.com/jobjstauffer/status/712727798733873152
The fact it's going to be a continuation as well as a "new begenning" is interesting.
Edit: He also tweeted this
That doesn't mean that any specific characters are confirmed, even seemingly obvious ones, but stay tuned later this year for more news.
https://twitter.com/jobjstauffer/status/712728541125709824
Sounds a lot like they'll be pushing for a new protagonist. Not to say Clem might not be a protagonist at all, but just sounds like it'll be… more somebody new with the whole new beginning business. I mean it'd make sense, introduce new gamers to the series by introducing a new character with a fresh untold story and show their experience of the ZA, perhaps even how it kicked off for them.
I still hope it's Simon. I know he had a short scene, but he was pretty good in Episode 3.
Personally, I would like it if we played as someone else, and Clem still be there but as a non-playable character. It would be nice if each new season brought a new protagonist to the table. You could be really surprised that an (insert S3 age here) girl learned to survive in such a harsh world so fast... It's good to have a different perspective on things that we shaped and experienced in the previous season.
Or, I'd maybe like to see a semi-extra-playable character, like at the end of every episode, we get a 15-minute piece of gameplay as someone else at a completely different place in the world... I dunno, I don't really want to play as Clem again. It was nice in S2, but some of the things TTG made you (-Clementine) do seemed pretty unbelievable. Plus, if this is the last Season for Clementine, what are they doing for a Season 4? This series is pretty popular, so I'm sure they won't stop after this one, right?
Oh you're right! We never really knew what happened to the little guy after he opted to leave the tree, so his status is unknown. I can assure you his presence will be felt if he comes back in Season 3. Nothing will be the same.
If you've played Blues & bullets it kinda has an idea you want where you play as a detective looking for a missing girl, but at the end or beginning of an episode you'll play as that missing girl and make tough choices.
Personally, I would like it if we played as someone else, and Clem still be there but as a non-playable character. It would be nice if each … morenew season brought a new protagonist to the table. You could be really surprised that an (insert S3 age here) girl learned to survive in such a harsh world so fast... It's good to have a different perspective on things that we shaped and experienced in the previous season.
Or, I'd maybe like to see a semi-extra-playable character, like at the end of every episode, we get a 15-minute piece of gameplay as someone else at a completely different place in the world... I dunno, I don't really want to play as Clem again. It was nice in S2, but some of the things TTG made you (-Clementine) do seemed pretty unbelievable. Plus, if this is the last Season for Clementine, what are they doing for a Season 4? This series is pretty popular, so I'm sure they won't stop after this one, right?
I definitely get the vibe reading between the lines that we will be playing as somebody new, but that Clementine will be a big part of the story still. It will be very tricky to pull off Clem's personality when different people played her in different ways.
With every passing day and every new update, I become more and more worried that Clem won't be the playable character. It definitely seems like she will involved with Season 3, which is great, but I was really hoping we would continue playing as her. I personally loved playing as Clem, I enjoyed seeing her develop and really felt like I was shaping her character throughout the season, playing as someone else would be a bit disappointing, but I trust Telltale to do what they think is best for the story.
Oh, I like that. I just looked stuff up about that game and it seems like a good buy (except for the episode wait... its been 8 months since release, and there's only 2 episodes?) Thanks for telling me about that. While I'm not a big fan of noir-type games, the story and gameplay are intriguing.
If you've played Blues & bullets it kinda has an idea you want where you play as a detective looking for a missing girl, but at the end or beginning of an episode you'll play as that missing girl and make tough choices.
Not that I disliked Season 2, but after seeing how Season 2 treated Clem by making her hyper-competent and hardened to compensate for her being the playable character instead of making her vulnerable, inquisitive, and empathetic like in Season 1, I think it would be better to keep her as a side character for Season 3.
With every passing day and every new update, I become more and more worried that Clem won't be the playable character. It definitely seems l… moreike she will involved with Season 3, which is great, but I was really hoping we would continue playing as her. I personally loved playing as Clem, I enjoyed seeing her develop and really felt like I was shaping her character throughout the season, playing as someone else would be a bit disappointing, but I trust Telltale to do what they think is best for the story.
Job just tweeted this
No more details on #TWD S3 until this summer, but the main takeaway is that it will be just as much a new beginn… moreing as it is a continuation.
https://twitter.com/jobjstauffer/status/712727798733873152
The fact it's going to be a continuation as well as a "new begenning" is interesting.
Edit: He also tweeted this
That doesn't mean that any specific characters are confirmed, even seemingly obvious ones, but stay tuned later this year for more news.
https://twitter.com/jobjstauffer/status/712728541125709824
I still think Clementine is a great character on her own, and as a supporting/main character, but she doesn't really work as a playable character. They're going to need to do a serious overhaul in how they present her character, how they tell her story, and how she interacts with the world if they decide to make her the PC for Season 3. They need to look at the things they did right with Clementine in S2, notably in the first half of the season, and even more notably in the first episode, and build upon and strengthen those core concepts, paint a clear picture of where/what Clementine is going to be by the end of the season, trim out the areas of trouble that were highlighted in S2, adhere more closely to the character she was in the first season, and make more of a push towards more natural dialogue for her character overall: Clementine might be wise beyond her years even in S1, but there's times in S2 where dialogue options feel a bit too complex or mature for an 11 year old. There's some lines that just seem so obviously... adult (for lack of a better term) that it's hard to buy that a kid is the one suggesting/saying it. Also, I'd try to make more tailored responses and dialogue options based on S1 and S2. Think about the times in S2 where Clementine's dialogue options were affected by what you did or said in S1. There were only a handful of instances where that happened, and even less instances where they were actual dialogue options you could choose, not added on or said automatically (best example would be No Going Back, when Kenny asks about Lee. The exact options for Clementine change depending on what was said in S1)
And the above is just counting stuff related to Clementine herself. That isn't even getting into the more intricate mechanical/gameplay related stuff, which Clementine inherently limits since she's a kid. Sure, different combat and action sequences are possible when she's a kid, but it also means we can't really get more robust scenes like the bandit raid in S1, or most action segments, for that matter. Enclosed, one-on-one fights like with the shed walker are pretty cool, no doubt, but larger-scale action sequences and fights become pretty much impossible to do with Clementine. And even if you bite the bullet and do them anyways, it starts pushing a bit too much at the suspension of disbelief. It also limits the other ways you can interact with the world outside of action scenes. S1 had some puzzle elements/scenes that were pretty great, like clearing out the motel in episode 1, but you just wouldn't be able to do something like that with Clementine.
Look, I'll give credit where it's due, they did some good, even great stuff with Clementine as a character in S2 at certain points, but at the same time, there were many different issues caused -- and highlighted -- by her being a playable character as well.
Not that I disliked Season 2, but after seeing how Season 2 treated Clem by making her hyper-competent and hardened to compensate for her be… moreing the playable character instead of making her vulnerable, inquisitive, and empathetic like in Season 1, I think it would be better to keep her as a side character for Season 3.
If Clem isn't the main/player character I probably won't buy season 3. As far as I'm concerned her story isn't over and if (keyword "If") Telltale throw that away just so they can appeal to a new audience then I'm not going to want to continue buying TWD.
As for me, I'll only buy S3 if Clem isn't the playable character. Don't get me wrong, I loved Clem in season 1, but her being the main character just limits the gameplay/story situations a lot.
I really hope there's a new protagonist for S3 and that he/she is an adult.
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Am I really the only one who thinks Season 3 is going to be divided and extremely different on your ending, thus why its even taking so much longer for it to come out in the first place?
I think it'll be more choice based than most people think, but I don't think it'll be anything TOO crazy. Probably somewhere in the middle.
DAMN I'M GOING CRAZYYYYYY!!
Just have a new protagonist and I will be happy.
this is what ive said since almost everyone started cracking their heads with it. i want two main characters.
im not to excited. maybe its just an announcement and reveal trailer like the season 2 trailer. i wanted this game to at least come in the early 2017. just wanted them to really plan out this season. like i said for me longer episodes, two protagonist, more variety of gameplay and harder choices is what it would take for me to be a much greater game. and i mean also greater than season 1. TT is gonna have to step up here, they set the bar with borderlands so i dont expect anything short of Tftbl level of greatness. i just cant accept anything less, bar was set.
i dont want to sound too harsh, but it's my love. this game has hit me hard and i love it and I AM excited for this, but i just want this game to be great. i still really like season 2, but i didnt love it, love it. it has its flaws but i still enjoy it and i still love the character and dont feel their story is over. OHHH BTW, TT....please, PLEASE NO BULLSHIT insta canon characters death! or have them die for that matter. again we dont know if even Clem is the protagonist. so we dont know if they, or how much they'll use those different endings, but still... for this game something new, something bigger, bolder should be made.
I am just curious if Lilly will show up again. I mean i was never said if she survived or not. Would be hell of a wake up call for Clem she like she shows up in wellington. lol
Hopefully not multiple main characters. I'd rather play as one character that has the right amount of dept and development.
WAITING
Telltale treats their games - including Season 1 - as interactive moves/TV shows more than games, so I would not count on "more gameplay" and "longer episodes".
I really hope they dump Clementine as the protagonist and bring in someone new.
She would be better as a side character
The article makes me less excited for Season 3 actually. This quote in particular:
It didn't provide any closure for Clem's story. The endings were completely ambiguous and uncertain. Heck, one of the endings even hinted that things were going to go sour.
I really hope they keep Clem as the main playable character because she is the greatest character in video game history and her story is not over.
It's unclear if Clementine will still be the playable character but the quote below makes me think that she will (hopefully) be involved in the story somehow as it would be fairly pointless to import decisions from the first two seasons if Clem isn't involved in the story.
It seems like they want to make the game appealing to both new players who don't know the story from the first two seasons and old players who want to carry on form season 2.
They are going to release more information at the San Diego Comic Con in July so hopefully we will find out more information then.
I'm really hoping she stays the main protagonist, just so we can see how she is growing up. Season 2 was great in showing how her attitude is dramatically changing, but Season 3 would be even better if she was even a teenager. I've always assumed that Clementine IS Telltale's The Walking Dead, from the very beginning she is what the focus is on and therefore it should be HER story. We were Clem's protector in Season 1, then we change her our own way in Season 2, and now we see her REALLY grow up in Season 3 if she becomes more mature for example.
THAT's what I want to see.
I think that was something written by the guy who wrote the article right? That part wasn't a quote from TT staff. Still some hope.
Those excerpts are direct quotes from Kevin Bruner.
Job just tweeted this
The fact it's going to be a continuation as well as a "new begenning" is interesting.
Edit: He also tweeted this
Does it really?
It seems to actually say that from the various end points they will honor it to some degree. From that I can take it as they do some kind of look back on it. Or maybe throughout the game they do flashbacks of how you got from your end point to your current position. It really seems like how they usually do things but more "artsy".
Either way I'm interested in seeing how it turns out.
Who is Jub? Is he Job's evil twin?
Like I said, hopefully not multiple playable characters. That runs the risk that neither character will be given the time to be developed properly.
Yes, yes he is :P
Seriously though it was a typo
From Job's tweet about new beginnings and Bruner's tidbit on introducing new players (specifically walking dead fans, not Telltale fans), I'm thinking it's going to be a new playable character that will meet Clem at some point, where and in what circumstances being dependent on your choices. I still think the story will ultimately be about Clem, or at least mainly, but there may be extra emphasis on another character or characters' story.
Sounds a lot like they'll be pushing for a new protagonist. Not to say Clem might not be a protagonist at all, but just sounds like it'll be somebody new with the whole new beginning business. I mean it'd make sense, introduce new gamers to the series by introducing a new character with a fresh untold story and show their experience of the ZA, perhaps even how it kicked off for them.
I still hope it's Simon. I know he had a short scene, but he was pretty good in Episode 3.
[In Abraham's voice] Who's Simon!
Funny, could have sworn he was Fitzgerald.
Personally, I would like it if we played as someone else, and Clem still be there but as a non-playable character. It would be nice if each new season brought a new protagonist to the table. You could be really surprised that an (insert S3 age here) girl learned to survive in such a harsh world so fast... It's good to have a different perspective on things that we shaped and experienced in the previous season.
Or, I'd maybe like to see a semi-extra-playable character, like at the end of every episode, we get a 15-minute piece of gameplay as someone else at a completely different place in the world... I dunno, I don't really want to play as Clem again. It was nice in S2, but some of the things TTG made you (-Clementine) do seemed pretty unbelievable. Plus, if this is the last Season for Clementine, what are they doing for a Season 4? This series is pretty popular, so I'm sure they won't stop after this one, right?
Oh you're right! We never really knew what happened to the little guy after he opted to leave the tree, so his status is unknown. I can assure you his presence will be felt if he comes back in Season 3. Nothing will be the same.
If you've played Blues & bullets it kinda has an idea you want where you play as a detective looking for a missing girl, but at the end or beginning of an episode you'll play as that missing girl and make tough choices.
I definitely get the vibe reading between the lines that we will be playing as somebody new, but that Clementine will be a big part of the story still. It will be very tricky to pull off Clem's personality when different people played her in different ways.
With every passing day and every new update, I become more and more worried that Clem won't be the playable character. It definitely seems like she will involved with Season 3, which is great, but I was really hoping we would continue playing as her. I personally loved playing as Clem, I enjoyed seeing her develop and really felt like I was shaping her character throughout the season, playing as someone else would be a bit disappointing, but I trust Telltale to do what they think is best for the story.
Oh, I like that. I just looked stuff up about that game and it seems like a good buy (except for the episode wait... its been 8 months since release, and there's only 2 episodes?) Thanks for telling me about that. While I'm not a big fan of noir-type games, the story and gameplay are intriguing.
Not that I disliked Season 2, but after seeing how Season 2 treated Clem by making her hyper-competent and hardened to compensate for her being the playable character instead of making her vulnerable, inquisitive, and empathetic like in Season 1, I think it would be better to keep her as a side character for Season 3.
It was probably unintentional but I like how he said 'a new beginning', which reminded me of the comic volume.
Interesting stuff.
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I still think Clementine is a great character on her own, and as a supporting/main character, but she doesn't really work as a playable character. They're going to need to do a serious overhaul in how they present her character, how they tell her story, and how she interacts with the world if they decide to make her the PC for Season 3. They need to look at the things they did right with Clementine in S2, notably in the first half of the season, and even more notably in the first episode, and build upon and strengthen those core concepts, paint a clear picture of where/what Clementine is going to be by the end of the season, trim out the areas of trouble that were highlighted in S2, adhere more closely to the character she was in the first season, and make more of a push towards more natural dialogue for her character overall: Clementine might be wise beyond her years even in S1, but there's times in S2 where dialogue options feel a bit too complex or mature for an 11 year old. There's some lines that just seem so obviously... adult (for lack of a better term) that it's hard to buy that a kid is the one suggesting/saying it. Also, I'd try to make more tailored responses and dialogue options based on S1 and S2. Think about the times in S2 where Clementine's dialogue options were affected by what you did or said in S1. There were only a handful of instances where that happened, and even less instances where they were actual dialogue options you could choose, not added on or said automatically (best example would be No Going Back, when Kenny asks about Lee. The exact options for Clementine change depending on what was said in S1)
And the above is just counting stuff related to Clementine herself. That isn't even getting into the more intricate mechanical/gameplay related stuff, which Clementine inherently limits since she's a kid. Sure, different combat and action sequences are possible when she's a kid, but it also means we can't really get more robust scenes like the bandit raid in S1, or most action segments, for that matter. Enclosed, one-on-one fights like with the shed walker are pretty cool, no doubt, but larger-scale action sequences and fights become pretty much impossible to do with Clementine. And even if you bite the bullet and do them anyways, it starts pushing a bit too much at the suspension of disbelief. It also limits the other ways you can interact with the world outside of action scenes. S1 had some puzzle elements/scenes that were pretty great, like clearing out the motel in episode 1, but you just wouldn't be able to do something like that with Clementine.
Look, I'll give credit where it's due, they did some good, even great stuff with Clementine as a character in S2 at certain points, but at the same time, there were many different issues caused -- and highlighted -- by her being a playable character as well.
If Clem isn't the main/player character I probably won't buy season 3. As far as I'm concerned her story isn't over and if (keyword "If") Telltale throw that away just so they can appeal to a new audience then I'm not going to want to continue buying TWD.
As for me, I'll only buy S3 if Clem isn't the playable character. Don't get me wrong, I loved Clem in season 1, but her being the main character just limits the gameplay/story situations a lot.
I really hope there's a new protagonist for S3 and that he/she is an adult.