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  • WOW WOW BEST EPISODE OF THE SERIES YET. EVEN THOUGH I KNEW PRETTY MUCH EVERY CHOICE IT WAS STILL FUCKED> AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

  • I tried to stab Ramsay. I knew nothing would come of it but I would in Rodrik's shoes. Might as well at least attempt to rid the world of that monster.

    Spared Bloodsong. Asher has no qualms killing when he has to in my playthrough but that fight was over.

    I told Tyrion that Cersei sent me. I knew he'd figure it out anyways and screw Cersei. She was probably just waiting for a moment to screw Mira over anyways and no matter what I know it'll turn out the same. Might as well give her the middle finger.

    I executed Royland. Nothing he had to say was worth it. Rodrik is weak? Tell that to your guts hanging out of you.

    Then I paused my game, screamed at the computer screen, went to get a beer, screamed at my computer screen again, then chose Rodrik to stay behind. Godspeed, scar-y hot Forrester. Little bro will take it from here.

  • TWAU is an exception.

    Valebread posted: »

    I always hated that they never show next time on before the final episode.

  • Eh, think that ending has ruined this series for me. The endless shitting all over the Forresters is just fucking comical at this point. I don't find any particularly interesting drama in just piling on misery for them in every single episode. It's just constant "OH SO YOU THINK YOU'VE DONE GOOD? NAH, GUESS AGAIN, HERE - ONE OF THESE CHARACTERS YOU LIKE HAS TO DIE BECAUSE REASONS."

    It's just shit and forced and a complete parody of itself at this point. I get that Game of Thrones is this dark series where nobody is safe but it's just getting silly the degree to which they've gone out of their way to make sure that every episode just leaves the Forrester's worse off, like the Whitehill's have to be this unstoppable force somehow able to mastermind the unraveling of the Forrester's and execute each move with almost 100% success rate across the board.

    Gregor, dead. Gared's family, dead. Ethan, dead. Ryon, snatched. Whitehill's delivering neverending humiliation to the Forrester's, oh and there's a traitor now, cool. Oh, but hang on, Mira has struck a deal with Tyr... ah nevermind he's been arrested. Oh, but hang on, here's Elaena with her brother Arthur and his elite guard to allign with the Forresters! And they've managed to imprison Gryff, some bargaining power! Oh, but hang on, here's Ramsey the reset button, oh and he's killed Arthur and sent his men away and freed Gryff. Aha! But Mira has uncovered and foiled a plan to build an army to attack the Forresters! Oh, but hang on, the Whitehill's have decided to ambush you anyway because they're all annoyed. Oh and Duncan/Royland has turned traitor because wahhh they didn't get to be sentinel. Oh and now one of Rodrik or Asher has to die because why not kill off yet more Forresters for some bants. And there's Gryff looking good as new, lovely.

    The traitor being determinant is rubbish too. Honestly, what is the point at this stage? The entire game is just one way traffic.

  • I'd hold off this argument until Episode 6 is out.

    Eh, think that ending has ruined this series for me. The endless shitting all over the Forresters is just fucking comical at this point. I d

  • I'm not sure if there's a stream for it, but the only real difference is that the brother who stays gets his eye stabbed out by one his men.

    Valebread posted: »

    IS there a stream with Gryff maimed on horseback?

  • Why? What will that change? Everything I wrote is still true up to this point. And I don't really feel at this point the ending can really suddenly turn it around for me, it's just been a frustration that's grown as the series has progressed. And the ending is presumably either, oh great the Forrester's finally managed a win, but in the process got wrecked and lost most of the family or they lose. And losing is actually the option that makes the most sense at this point, for them to be so relentlessly pummeled at every turn, somehow managing to overcome it at the final hurdle seems like it wouldn't really be true to the series, and failing just makes the entire thing a misery all together.

    Tyranitar posted: »

    I'd hold off this argument until Episode 6 is out.

  • Right? It's either they do something stupidly unbelievable and win, leading to an unbelievable disappointing ending

    OR

    I gave Telltale my money so they could make me sad.

    Why? What will that change? Everything I wrote is still true up to this point. And I don't really feel at this point the ending can really s

  • edited July 2015

    You do realize that you're supposed to feel this way, don't you? Despair, helplessness, etc -- they all go hand-in-hand with the ASOIAF universe.

    It's the sign of good storytelling, and the fact that you feel this way confirms that Telltale are doing their job well.

    Why? What will that change? Everything I wrote is still true up to this point. And I don't really feel at this point the ending can really s

  • I don't agree at all, good storytelling leaves room for some nuance. This has been a one-sided beatdown by the big bad villains from the start, with an untouchable supervillain at their beck and call should they need him to sweep in and undo the five minutes you thought the Forrester's had even the slightest ounce of leverage in proceedings.

    This isn't good drama. I think saying you're supposed to feel this way because of the universe it's set in is cheap. Sure, the universe is dark, unforgiving, and ruthless and all the rest of it. But all of that has been directed towards one group of people in this game. Good storytelling isn't just an exercise in putting the weight of the world on one person and then adding to it relentlessly and unwaveringly each episode whilst the world and people around them remain relatively untouched. Even the one moment of misfortune against the Whitehill's was undone and reset in about five minutes. I distinctly remember beating the everloving shit out of Gryff Whitehill and locking him away with him whimpering about how he couldn't see. Five minutes later he's been let out by Ramsey, and he swans in at the end of this episode looking like he's never been punched in his life.

    Each episode just feels like the starting point was pulling a piece of paper out of hat that told them what they were going to put the Forrester's through this time and then branched out from there.

    You do realize that you're supposed to feel this way, don't you? Despair, helplessness, etc -- they all go hand-in-hand with the ASOIAF univ

  • I didn't stab ramsay (he's cannon so no choice there)
    I killed bloodsong (had to show off to the pit fighters)
    I told Tyrion the truth (I couldn't go through with it, Tyrion was so nice to me earlier)
    Killed Royland (hope he burns in the seven hells)
    Had Rodrick stay behind (he was my favorite character so that one really hit me hard but Asher was the only one that could lead the pit fighters)
    I'm still crying about that last decision.

  • Eh. No, not quite. I'd say most of the people in ASOIAF don't feel particularly helpless, they might not be in the best position but they can all work their way up and they know it. ASOIAF isn't mean to be a sad universe, it's meant to be realistic with struggles and triumph or failure, but helplessness has never been part of it (except for Theon, though even he eventually got past it.)

    The Stark words sum it up well. Winter is Coming=Things won't be easy not "HAHAHAHA YOU'RE HOPELESS AND EVERYTHING YOU LOVE IS DEAD OR DYING."

    You do realize that you're supposed to feel this way, don't you? Despair, helplessness, etc -- they all go hand-in-hand with the ASOIAF univ

  • edited July 2015

    Pay closer attention, there is plenty of helplessness to be found throughout the universe in both GoT and ASOIAF if you have read the books and studied the histories. I can name 10+ characters and houses off the top of my head that had it just as bad or worse than the Forresters have. If the Forresters are destroyed (which they won't be), they won't be the first or last house to be oppressed and wiped off the face of Westeros.

    Those are major characters and major houses that you're referring to. This is a story of a small house being overthrown by their rivals, who have been in a bitter feud with them for decades, and who also happen to have the backing of the rulers of the North. And not only that, but they also had a traitor in their midst pulling the strings and doing even further damage.

    You acknowledged that the world of ASOIAF is imagined as realistic, so why complain that a minor house is struggling and being dragged through the mud? That sounds "realistic" to me, and I'm fine with the direction Telltale have taken. You can't always get your way, and you won't find any easy choices and instant gratification here like you do in other Telltale games.

    Eh. No, not quite. I'd say most of the people in ASOIAF don't feel particularly helpless, they might not be in the best position but they ca

  • Finally Xbox One gets one of these episodes first for a change haha

    LeFedore posted: »

    Xbox One.

  • I didn't try to stab Ramsay.

    I killed Bloodsong.

    I didn't tell Tyrion that Cersei sent me.

    I executed Royland.

    I had Rodrick stay behind.

  • edited July 2015

    I didn't try to stab Ramsay.

    • I REALLY wanted to, but I figured what's the point? It's not like I could kill him so I didn't bother.

    I killed Bloodsong.

    • I figured the game was going to make me do it anyways. I figured if I spared him he'd attack me from behind, forcing me to kill him this time. Didn't want that to happen because I'd look weak to the other fighters. So I just went ahead and killed him.

    I told Tyrion the truth

    • Knowing the show I knew I didn't stand a chance lying to him. Plus he's my dude. I figured I'd have a better chance getting information from him if I'm honest with him. He knew Cersei sent me, would just make things worse lying about it.

    I spared Duncan.

    • I wish there were more options of punishment other than kill or don't kill. I'd of loved to have cut out his tongue or something. Or execute his ass after he tells you the Whitehills plans. Either way I sparred him in order to get information.

    I had Rodrick stay behind.

    • This was just the logical choice here. Story wise it makes more sense for Rodrick to stay behind and die here. Asher has just gotten there and he's supposed to be this savior, working all this time to get to Westeros. Just seems dumb to have him die right when he arrives. From Rodrick's story point his death here made more sense to me. Plus the pit fighters likely wouldn't listen to Rodrick so it was really an easy choice to make.
  • I like that people are using scar-y and blondy as a reference :)

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  • That's true... But I always put bros before hoes, and Besk a badass sista - a bista!

    Valebread posted: »

    no matter what you do your gonna piss a woman off. Also Eleana just lost her brother

  • I knew it was familiar...

    Valebread posted: »

    And Scar-y is wherein his dad armor or a look alike

  • Ebbert Ortengryn Whitehill!

    Valebread posted: »

    you mean Ebbert?

  • Agree with all that. Plus it really felt like the Rodrik parts of this episode were I don't know how to explain it. It just felt like it was his time to go.

    Smurfbate posted: »

    I didn't try to stab Ramsay. * I REALLY wanted to, but I figured what's the point? It's not like I could kill him so I didn't bother.

  • edited July 2015
    • Didn't stab Ramsay (I know he won't die, so I won't perform for him)
    • Killed Bloodsong (just for the rules)
    • Didn't reveal Cersei (don't know why)
    • Spared Duncan (he might still be useful)
    • Asher stays behind (Rodrik still has the Glenmores and he just recovered, I can't waste it and can't sacrifice another current lord, Rodrik has better reason for vengeance now that both Asher and Ethan are gone)
  • exactly, it'd be like Danys working her way to Westeros only for the Lannisters to just all go ahead and kill her right when she gets off the boat. Very anti-climatic. I truly felt that Rodrick dying here was where his story should end. This episode was building up on his mistakes as a Lord, this is more or less his redemption to me, his final stand.

    Agree with all that. Plus it really felt like the Rodrik parts of this episode were I don't know how to explain it. It just felt like it was his time to go.

  • But we are not the Boltons

    Valebread posted: »

    NO NOT KILL! Flay

  • well duh, reminded me of Mass Effect 2 when I headbutted a Krogan

    I headbutted the shit out of the Beast. Anyone else? Edit: I see @NukemDukem did. Well done, bruh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RTaX4MkJyLU

  • OzzyUKOzzyUK Moderator

    My Choices

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  • Couldn't resist that Asher grin ethier huh :P

    OzzyUK posted: »

    My Choices

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    That and the fact that i was afraid the army will only listen to Asher as he earned their respect in the fighting pits and we needed all the help we could get from them, Rodrik seemed the type of person to sacrifice himself to Gryff to save his family which is why i made him stay.

    Couldn't resist that Asher grin ethier huh :P

  • Apparently it turns out the same...which doesn't make sense.

    Valebread posted: »

    All I want to know is who does Ramsay kill if you take the Glenmores to Highpoint

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    Same choices as me, except I tried to stab Ramsey. I hope I don't regret any of them.

    MarteenPyro posted: »

    I didn't try to commit suicide (didn't stab Ramsay) Showed mercy (+1 ally) I told Tyrion the truth. I spared Roy Rodrik... Scar-y man! Will miss ya...

  • I'm glad the majority didn't leave Rodrik behind, while Asher's story arc ends on a satisfying note if he's left behind instead- it would have been just too painful to see Rodrik die like that - though I still don't understand why we had the choice t try to stab Ramsay Snow since everyone knows about his plot armor - I'm actually surprised a third of players still attempted it, what did they expect from it I wonder.

    OzzyUK posted: »

    My Choices

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    I'm actually surprised a third of players still attempted it, what did they expect from it I wonder.

    The reason i didn't bother trying to stab him was because i knew it was pointless and because i didn't want to annoy him, i guess some people tried for fun or because they don't know about his plot armor.

    Harian96 posted: »

    I'm glad the majority didn't leave Rodrik behind, while Asher's story arc ends on a satisfying note if he's left behind instead- it would ha

  • Me too, seeing the difference between blondy and scar-y, having Bloodsong as an ally, knowing that the traitor is still alive, but can be useful if he has to...

    Bolc56 posted: »

    Same choices as me, except I tried to stab Ramsey. I hope I don't regret any of them.

  • My heart was broken from blondy's heroism (if you picked him as the big hero in the end), and I got super angry when scar-y did the same. To me, blondy showed scar-y that they were wrong to exile him, or that they were right to give him a chance (to bring him back, altough it was mostly because of a coming war); and scar-y was trying to take revenge, but he failed, and barbie (the ser on the horse) was finally happy with that grin on his face... Seeing the exiled son coming back and sacrificing himself was incredible, and seeing the new lord of the house who has been through everything by those hills, and getting killed by them was shocking. To think that Asher will take the leadership in my playthrough is awesome, but to remember that Rodrik never had the chance to make the hills pay is really sad. I just hope I did the right thing...

    Valebread posted: »

    but blondy didn't have much to do Scar-y needs revenge for his Scars. Either way they are both prob going to die. I hate to say this but If I have to kill Rodrik in episode 5 to let Asher survive the season I will.

  • Re: Ramsay. I knew the stabbing would come to nothing, but I still hate Ramsay's guts and I wanted at least to try and scratch him :P

    Other choices: spared Bloodsong, told Tyrion about Cersei (he had it already figured out anyway), imprisoned Royland (in my gameplay it actually made some sense for him to feel bitter, since I practically NEVER listened to him ^^) and left Asher behind (which felt like being flayed in place of Arthur ;___;), even if I'm very worried about what will happen with the pit fighters now that he's gone. I will miss our cheeky arrogant blondy so much :'(

  • Same here - I didn't want to kill him off like that but I couldn't bear to let Rodrik go in his place - I feel so guilty... he was such an awesome character.

    Re: Ramsay. I knew the stabbing would come to nothing, but I still hate Ramsay's guts and I wanted at least to try and scratch him :P Oth

  • He says that he didn't tell a word about it to anyone.

    Also I wonder, how does Rodrik know about the North Grove?

    Valebread posted: »

    When you have Duncan as the traitor and your going through he whole dialogue thin g with him and you ask him about the North grove what does he say, by all means I don't want to replay 4 episodes for 1 dialogue.

  • clap-tpclap-tp Banned
    edited July 2015

    i would kill both in my playthrough, but royland was badly written and out of charcter for him. and if we allready talking about common sense, common sesne should tell you that bloodsong very unlikely to join you and might even try to kill you, and also that 1 man wouldnt change the tide of a fight and common sense in video games should tell you that a small decision like this wouldnt change the results of the final fight.

    who the f do you think you are talking like this? you dont know me,
    do you talk like this to random people in real life too or just when you hidden behind the keyboard and screen? pff youre a sad, im not really suprised someone spineless like you is in a posture to type, because thats probably your only way to feel good about yourself

    oh and btw most people didnt killed the traitor so i guess nearly everyone is spineless and lack common sense by your "logic"

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    And Rodrik banged Elaena. Can't believe that's missing.

  • I did not try to stab Ramsay
    I killed Bloodsong
    I did not tell Tyrion that Cersei sent me
    I executed the traitor (Ducan was the traitor for me)
    I left Rodrik behind.

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