Ben's encounter with the bandits wasn't scrapped. It's just not described in detail in the final version. And we all know the bandits are rapists anyway thanks to Jolene (I love how the wiki doesn't list raping and probably killing her daughter as one of the bandit's crimes)
yeah, but we know that joan/clint were SUPPOSED to be in the episode due to the leaks, but there's no indication that Max was ever gonna show up again, despite being a fairly prominent antagonist for the first three episodes.
Gotta love those lingering remnants of scrapped ideas.
Yeah, at least for the sake of trivia or if it can still be worked in somehow… more like Ben's experiences with the Save Lot's Bandits.
and forgetful...ha. They remembered Rufus, but forgot Max.
Ouch.
Yeah, I don't get that! I mean, I like what they did with him and it added to scope of the situation, but it's the same fucking voice actor and yet Max is not listed at all. I was hoping he'd show up given his complete absence from the previous episode, but I guess Joan/Clint's absence didn't help his chances.
Gabe: Wanting to impress Clem if she were to ever return, Gabe is practicing his awesome parkour skills by jumping across Richmond buildings. He trips on a ledge and plunges into a horde of walkers, never to be seen again.
May I ask why walkers have to be involved with that one? Hell, Richmond shouldn't even have walkers at that point and fuckin up at Luke's old favorite game is plenty lethal on it's own.
Kate: If you agreed to start a family with her, she dies of pregnancy issues. If you rejected her, she kills herself since she feels alone.
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Gabe: Wanting to impress Clem if she were to ever return, Gabe is practicing his awesome parkour skills by jumping across Richmond buildings. He trips on a ledge and plunges into a horde of walkers, never to be seen again.
(Bonus) David: Javi and David are killing walkers for fun since David is obsessed with being a soldier. David cuts off a walkers head and is playing around with it, but it bites him and Javi has to put him down.
She gets pissed, because she wanted to live in Richmond under Joan's dictatorship rule because the walls in Richmond are comfortable but apparently Javi and his hispanic street gang ruined all that. She also forgot that The New Frontier were the ones who destroyed her home and killed nearly all of her friends.
She also gets even more pissed off if you shot Conrad or if Tripp dies. So pretty much she's mad at you no matter what.
So like she's just pissed at you out of the blue?
"JAVI GO FUCK YOURSELF I HAVE NO REASON TO BE MAD BUT I MUST BE PISSED TO FURTHER THE PLOT JUST BECAUSE"
She gets pissed, because she wanted to live in Richmond under Joan's dictatorship rule because the walls in Richmond are comfortable but app… morearently Javi and his hispanic street gang ruined all that. She also forgot that The New Frontier were the ones who destroyed her home and killed nearly all of her friends.
She also gets even more pissed off if you shot Conrad or if Tripp dies. So pretty much she's mad at you no matter what.
So let me just say this... FUCK. ELEANOR.
Gabe simply mentions that Conrad being out/dead means they'lll need an extra hand to pull of the plan.
Meanwhile, Eleanor doesn't really get mad, per say: her issue is that they're not listening to her more peaceful plan and deciding to go through with rolling up on Joan and taking her out at a public hearing. She both wanted to capitalize on the fact that the people of Richmond trust and appreciate her to try and get them a place in the city, as well as prevent as many unnecessary deaths as possible.
If you didn't kill Conrad, her tone when Joan singles her out in more hesitant and uncertain, suggesting she at least still has reservations about screwing over the mission. Unfortunately for everyone, David's "hearing" turned out to be an execution, Joan had Ava and Tripp captured while they scoping out the area(hence Ava getting cut off after discovering the plan), and David/Javier attacking Clint/Joan in retribution for whoever Joan killed to prove a point caused a shootout and eventually a breach that killed several people.
It does if they single them out determinately: leaving with Kate has her help escort Javier to the Councilors and she more or less takes Ava's place when she hears what's going on with Joan/David's raid and leaves in disillusionment.
Yeah, the tragedy of poor communication between teammates. Joan(and possibly Clint, depending on if Eleanor was included in his deal) screwed everyone over by trying to execute David after turning the people against him, had Ava and Tripp captured while they were scouting to kill one to teach Javier a lesson, and David/Javier ends up attacking one of them, setting off a shoutout anyway.
They definitely didn't have a good plan, however Eleanor went about trying to get them to change it the wrong way, instead of trying to get … morethem to fully realize what they were about to do she tried to tell them the NF weren't that bad when everyone there had a traumatic experience happen due to the NF. So instead of trying to get them to change the plan or helping them she decides to go on her own over their heads and alert Joan with what was going to happen.
And look what happened then
Honestly, I think she was just caught up in the moment and just didn't care about the consequences, especially since she had already framed up David and deemed them accomplices.
Idk. Probably just tell the people that she was raiding peaceful communities if that option was chosen, shoot her straight away if that opti… moreon was taken, or do both if the return David to power option was chosen. I imagine the people would believe Javier after what they saw what she did to Tripp/Ava. Not gonna lie, for a leader she is veeeerrrryyy idiotic. I just can't see how she thought killing the opposite to what javi chose was going to be a good thing and get the people on her side.
Question about episode four:
How does Kate react if you kissed her in episode one and agree to having a future with her in episode four?
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Does she have the same reaction as not kissing her and then agreeing to a relationship (somewhat shocked, but relieved), or is it different?
Kate: If you agreed to start a family with her, she dies of pregnancy issues. If you rejected her, she kills herself since she feels alone.
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Gabe: Wanting to impress Clem if she were to ever return, Gabe is practicing his awesome parkour skills by jumping across Richmond buildings. He trips on a ledge and plunges into a horde of walkers, never to be seen again.
(Bonus) David: Javi and David are killing walkers for fun since David is obsessed with being a soldier. David cuts off a walkers head and is playing around with it, but it bites him and Javi has to put him down.
actually, i thought about it and might have to say gabe's outburst. the devs used the fact that he is hotheaded in order to justify this, but it was just horrible writing. gabe is so against violence in episodes four and five, yet in episode two, he puts a gun on conrad and tells javi to shoot him. it just made the writing seem so inconsistent, and if the original writers stayed, gabe would've probably been pro-shooting joan, more violent, and wouldn't have had the outburst.
I'd have to go with David fighting you no matter what. I played the entire game pro-David/anti-Kate and this fight basically said that none of those choices matter. Even the way he brings it up feels so forced as if the game was expecting everyone to date Kate.
The other ones you mentioned were really bad (though Nick's 2nd death was much worse than his first one). For me, Sarita getting killed at the start of EP4 if you cut her arm off was one of the worst implemented moments. It basically threw away your choice at the end of EP3 just so Kenny could get mad at you.
Of season 3 I'm assuming? Also I probably wouldn't select any music regarding this, it's all metal and no one would like it (wouldn't produce the same sentiment most likely) :^). I'm willing to listen to what other's would select though.
Actually, notice that Gabe technically never shoots anyone onscreen. His view of right and wrong clashing with his admiration of his dad was a theme for his character arc since the first episode.
actually, i thought about it and might have to say gabe's outburst. the devs used the fact that he is hotheaded in order to justify this, bu… moret it was just horrible writing. gabe is so against violence in episodes four and five, yet in episode two, he puts a gun on conrad and tells javi to shoot him. it just made the writing seem so inconsistent, and if the original writers stayed, gabe would've probably been pro-shooting joan, more violent, and wouldn't have had the outburst.
Actually, notice that Gabe technically never shoots anyone onscreen. His view of right and wrong clashing with his admiration of his dad was a theme for his character arc since the first episode.
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Ben's encounter with the bandits wasn't scrapped. It's just not described in detail in the final version. And we all know the bandits are rapists anyway thanks to Jolene (I love how the wiki doesn't list raping and probably killing her daughter as one of the bandit's crimes)
yeah, but we know that joan/clint were SUPPOSED to be in the episode due to the leaks, but there's no indication that Max was ever gonna show up again, despite being a fairly prominent antagonist for the first three episodes.
Do you think this game was secretly directed by Michael Bay?
In Season Two, what happens when Clem gets shot by Arvo but Bonnie died in the lake and you shoot Mike? Does she just pass out and Arvo runs?
What does Gabe say if Conrad is alive in episode 4? How does he still get Eleanor pissed at you?
Like father, like son huh
Gabe says something about needing an extra hand moving the truck since Conrad is "leaving".
Eleanor still gets pissed at you regardless. It's stupid.
So like she's just pissed at you out of the blue?
"JAVI GO FUCK YOURSELF I HAVE NO REASON TO BE MAD BUT I MUST BE PISSED TO FURTHER THE PLOT JUST BECAUSE"
May I ask why walkers have to be involved with that one? Hell, Richmond shouldn't even have walkers at that point and fuckin up at Luke's old favorite game is plenty lethal on it's own.
I believe so, given shooting Mike is the one of the times him shooting Clementine makes sense, but I don't think the Mike option is even replicatible.
She gets pissed, because she wanted to live in Richmond under Joan's dictatorship rule because the walls in Richmond are comfortable but apparently Javi and his hispanic street gang ruined all that. She also forgot that The New Frontier were the ones who destroyed her home and killed nearly all of her friends.
She also gets even more pissed off if you shot Conrad or if Tripp dies. So pretty much she's mad at you no matter what.
So let me just say this... FUCK. ELEANOR.
I straight up told that bitch to fuck off, I'm surprised at how many people forgave her.
Gabe simply mentions that Conrad being out/dead means they'lll need an extra hand to pull of the plan.
Meanwhile, Eleanor doesn't really get mad, per say: her issue is that they're not listening to her more peaceful plan and deciding to go through with rolling up on Joan and taking her out at a public hearing. She both wanted to capitalize on the fact that the people of Richmond trust and appreciate her to try and get them a place in the city, as well as prevent as many unnecessary deaths as possible.
If you didn't kill Conrad, her tone when Joan singles her out in more hesitant and uncertain, suggesting she at least still has reservations about screwing over the mission. Unfortunately for everyone, David's "hearing" turned out to be an execution, Joan had Ava and Tripp captured while they scoping out the area(hence Ava getting cut off after discovering the plan), and David/Javier attacking Clint/Joan in retribution for whoever Joan killed to prove a point caused a shootout and eventually a breach that killed several people.
It does if they single them out determinately: leaving with Kate has her help escort Javier to the Councilors and she more or less takes Ava's place when she hears what's going on with Joan/David's raid and leaves in disillusionment.
Yeah, the tragedy of poor communication between teammates. Joan(and possibly Clint, depending on if Eleanor was included in his deal) screwed everyone over by trying to execute David after turning the people against him, had Ava and Tripp captured while they were scouting to kill one to teach Javier a lesson, and David/Javier ends up attacking one of them, setting off a shoutout anyway.
Honestly, I think she was just caught up in the moment and just didn't care about the consequences, especially since she had already framed up David and deemed them accomplices.
She slaps Javi if you kissed her and refused to have a relationship
Sadly, I can see all of them happening.
I Just remembered to ask this now, but why does Clementine leave Richmond with no supplies? All she has is a gun and a knife so what about food etc?
Which is the worse implemented: Nick's first death, Sarah's canon death, Gabe's outburst, or David attacking?
Plot armour.
they're all terrible, but i would either say sarah's canon death or david attacking
Water drowns in Luke
Why did Telltale stop doing the previews for the next episode at the end of every other episode?
Sarah's. Assuming you're talking about the one where the deck crushes her.
What songs would you put at the credits of the episodes?
(psssss let me be pretentious here)
actually, i thought about it and might have to say gabe's outburst. the devs used the fact that he is hotheaded in order to justify this, but it was just horrible writing. gabe is so against violence in episodes four and five, yet in episode two, he puts a gun on conrad and tells javi to shoot him. it just made the writing seem so inconsistent, and if the original writers stayed, gabe would've probably been pro-shooting joan, more violent, and wouldn't have had the outburst.
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Nick's second death is worse than all of those
I'd have to go with David fighting you no matter what. I played the entire game pro-David/anti-Kate and this fight basically said that none of those choices matter. Even the way he brings it up feels so forced as if the game was expecting everyone to date Kate.
The other ones you mentioned were really bad (though Nick's 2nd death was much worse than his first one). For me, Sarita getting killed at the start of EP4 if you cut her arm off was one of the worst implemented moments. It basically threw away your choice at the end of EP3 just so Kenny could get mad at you.
No, or maybe they do in the most advanced part of the world in that apocalypse. There's bound to be one toilet that still functions.
Yes.
This, but honestly I don't care anymore, the writing is beyond appalling.
Of season 3 I'm assuming? Also I probably wouldn't select any music regarding this, it's all metal and no one would like it (wouldn't produce the same sentiment most likely) :^). I'm willing to listen to what other's would select though.
To be honest after her bullshit throughout Season 2 I would have loved nothing more than to have broken the Bonnie
Actually, notice that Gabe technically never shoots anyone onscreen. His view of right and wrong clashing with his admiration of his dad was a theme for his character arc since the first episode.
Yes.
For modelswappers and gamedelvers, do you think that Vitali was originally supposed to be [re-]named Buricko?
Does anyone see any similarities between Carver and Hitler? I've been debating with friends
it still seemed pretty sloppy though. he definitely felt that violence was more justified in ties that bind than in thicker than water.