Part 5: Rise of the Pirate God

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  • edited November 2009
    I wouldn't rule out the possibility, but I also can't imagine them doing that. The whole series is about Guybrush vs. LeChuck. You can't break that cycle without breaking the series.
    why not?
    there are many things to do in the caribbean and many lesser bad guys which can develop.

    but i agree, it is satisfying to find out at every end of a game, that lechuck was behind it all and you can kill him once again…
  • edited November 2009
    why not?
    there are many things to do in the caribbean and many lesser bad guys which can develop.

    That's like going on a Zelda forum and saying "Go ahead, permanently off Ganon. Let's give Vaati a chance to shine." Link and Ganon, Guybrush and LeChuck, they're fated enemies, destined to clash time and again. Mess with that and...well...

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    And I bet you thought Escape from Monkey Island was bad. Monkey Island's black sheep is nothing compared to Zelda's.

    Yes, I am well aware that the image of CD-i Link has absolutely nothing to do with the presence or absence of Ganon in those games, I just couldn't help it. Besides, a screenshot of Four Swords or The Minish Cap just doesn't have the same effect.
  • edited November 2009
    Are you referring to sinking the Mad Monkey in the first game? Because both the ending (if you sink it, otherwise you see Herman Toothrot) and the fourth game show that all three survived that but were marooned on Monkey Island.

    I know there are 2 endings but I thught there was a reference in CMI that suggested it sank.
  • edited November 2009
    GBTW wrote: »
    Well spotted! LOL!

    Wait, does that mean that RON Gilbert has full control the next chapter!?:eek:
  • edited November 2009
    Zhadnost wrote: »
    I know there are 2 endings but I thught there was a reference in CMI that suggested it sank.

    I don't remember a reference in Curse, but in Escape, Guybrush's original crew complains a lot about him stranding them on Monkey Island, indicating that the boat sank, but they still all survived.

    Also, I don't know what I was thinking, but the boat in Secret was the Sea Monkey.
  • edited November 2009
    rugby wrote: »
    i don't know if this belongs here but i just noticed that the name of the "pirate god" mentioned by the voodoo lady is NOR TREBLIG. ron gilbert spelled backwards.
    he even had a shrine in her shack in Episode 1.
  • edited November 2009
    Link and Ganon, Guybrush and LeChuck, they're fated enemies, destined to clash time and again. Mess with that and...well...

    That just reminded me of a line from The Dark Knight that goes something like "this is what happens when an unstoppable force collides with an immovable object." :D

    The never-ending struggle is what makes it so entertaining...No more conflict, no more fun.
  • edited November 2009
    Assuming that there will be a second ToMI, neither LeChuck nor Guybrush can become the Pirate God because then there will be no more Guybrush vs LeChuck. Hence, I think it will be someone else, but that someone else can do nothing against the Pox controlling LeChuck despite being a god, and the saga continues.
  • edited November 2009
    How about Guybrush and Morgan 'getting together' in the Land of the Undead and producing a Pirate God? :eek:
  • edited November 2009
    lol, sex would be the next logical step after introducing death in a monkey island game
    (ok, i forgot telltale is american and american politicians let watch their 10-year-olds bloody gore but NEVER a nipple. what a country! i hate this catholic double standards)
  • edited November 2009
    lol, sex would be the next logical step after introducing death in a monkey island game
    (ok, i forgot telltale is american and american politicians let watch their 10-year-olds bloody gore but NEVER a nipple. what a country! i hate this catholic double standards)

    I see nipples all the time and American porn makes most other countries look like saints. Death is a natural part of life, cheating on your wife, not so much...I wouldn't call it a double standard, just a standard for descent clean families. Monkey Island is a family game not a porno or Rated R movie. :rolleyes:
  • edited November 2009
    I'd like to quote the Voodoo Lady in Episode 4:
    Guybrush: You've been lying to me about LeChuck all these years!
    Voodoo Lady: My ways are my own, Guybrush Threepwood, but rest assured, I have never lied to you.
    Guybrush: You're lying right now! All this time I thought LeChuck was an inhuman monster... well, actually he was an inhuman monster, but only because you MADE him this way!
    Voodoo Lady: Did I? Or was I merely playing my role in a much larger play?
    Guybrush: Stop trying to confuse me! We're tired of being puppets in your chess game!
    Voodoo Lady: This is no game, Threepwood!

    I have the feeling there is a much higher power than the Voodoo Lady who is controlling all the events. The diary is merely a copy of the Pirate God's plans and the Voodoo Lady was instructed to bring these events in play.
    I don't think the Pirate God is someone we've met before. None of the other characters are mysterious enough if you ask me.
  • edited November 2009
    I like LeChuck just as much as I like Guybrush, so they better not kill him off permanently.
  • edited November 2009
    (ok, i forgot telltale is american and american politicians let watch their 10-year-olds bloody gore but NEVER a nipple. what a country! i hate this catholic double standards)

    Catholic? I hate the WASP/Puritan double-standards! ;)

    So, put into context nicely by Terr002, it's suddenly struck me how obvious it was from the outset that TTG were setting up for a cliffhanger of some kind... hmm.
  • edited November 2009
    upperchuck wrote: »
    I see nipples all the time and American porn makes most other countries look like saints. Death is a natural part of life, cheating on your wife, not so much...I wouldn't call it a double standard, just a standard for descent clean families. Monkey Island is a family game not a porno or Rated R movie. :rolleyes:


    How do you figure sex equals cheating on your wife? It's absolutely possible to turn your argument on it's head and say "Procreating is a natural part of life, killing random strangers, not so much."
  • edited November 2009
    upperchuck wrote: »
    American porn makes most other countries look like saints.
    …while american politicians tell how bad porn is for your morality. if that aren’t double standards…

    and, btw., polygamic relationships are the much older and more common form of human social life. monogamy is a rather new development.

    back to MI, i don’t think guybrush and morgan will share much more than a kiss. (which is normal for today’s moral standards, but not for the ones of the century the game is playing in: aristocratics made marriages of convenience back then and pirates fucked everything that walked and had enough pounds of makeup in the face)
  • edited November 2009
    pirates fucked everything that walked and had enough pounds of makeup in the face)

    Now I understand the reason why DeSinge wants to cut any pirate's limb he's able to get to.
  • edited November 2009
    It depends what end of the pirate spectrum you are. It ranges from a relatively honourable, almost privateer type (Guybrush Threepwood) to so powerful he can break even the informal rules of pirates and get away with it (LeChuck).

    There is a fair range between the two though. Most pirates are somewhere between. And personal honour is probably why Morgan doesn't get what she half-wants from Guybrush Threepwood Mighty Pirate TM
  • edited November 2009
    OMG its so obvious !

    its Murray the Evil Skull!!!!
  • edited November 2009
    Winslow, the pirate God.
  • edited November 2009
    dont know, but i think this last chapter will connect somehow with the end of monkey island 2.
  • jmmjmm
    edited November 2009
    Mc_Pack wrote: »
    OMG its so obvious !

    its Murray the Evil Skull!!!!

    Nah, everyone knows it's the anchor
  • edited November 2009
    It is obvious what will happen..
    Guybrush will come to the land of the dead, which lies somewhere on Monkey Island, where he needs to escape from..
    Hint: Every MI game's last chapter happens on Monkey Island :p

    About the pirate god..
    Im pretty sure its LeChuck. It all was his plan from the start to absorb all of the pox to become very mighty.
  • edited November 2009
    Deepone wrote: »
    It is obvious what will happen..
    Guybrush will come to the land of the dead, which lies somewhere on Monkey Island, where he needs to escape from..
    Hint: Every MI game's last chapter happens on Monkey Island :p

    About the pirate god..
    Im pretty sure its LeChuck. It all was his plan from the start to absorb all of the pox to become very mighty.

    MI4 last chapter was on meelee with the robot and staue XP
  • edited November 2009
    Deepone wrote: »
    Im pretty sure its LeChuck. It all was his plan from the start to absorb all of the pox to become very mighty.
    Though, technically, didn't he just absorb the pox that set free from him anyway? So isn't he just as powerful as he was in the very start of the first episode?
    However, I do hope, they will also keep Stan and Morgan
    "too-lovely-to-die"
    LeFay.

    I second that, especially the spoiler part.
  • edited November 2009
    MI4 last chapter was on meelee with the robot and staue XP

    So was MI1, by the way. Only no robots.
    And MI2, (considering CoMI retcon), had only the last cutscene on Monkey Island.
    So, really, only CoMI had it's last chapters taking place on Monkey Island.
  • edited November 2009

    I think it's going to be Bosco.

    Haha, I knew there was something special about him... Brilliant :P
  • edited November 2009
    MI4 last chapter was on meelee with the robot and staue XP

    Yes but MI4 destroyed the Monkey Island story line and therefore dosn't exist in my eyes... *closes eyes and sticks fingers in ears* La la la I can't hear you!
  • edited November 2009
    Hm, this is a bit fat-fetched, but I think Guybrush will be brought back to life due to the voodoo magic of the Pyrite Parrot (who is now "scattered throughout the planet") Possibly being the pirate god himself? Dunno. If this is true, I don't think Morgan's dead. We'll just have to see.
  • edited November 2009
    Falanca wrote: »
    Though, technically, didn't he just absorb the pox that set free from him anyway? So isn't he just as powerful as he was in the very start of the first episode?



    I second that, especially the spoiler part.
    I was under the impression that when someone was infected with the pox it grew within them, so therefore when Lechuck got it back, he got a lot more voodoo than he let out in the first place.
  • edited November 2009
    I think it's Guybrush himself now!
  • edited November 2009
    If the Pirate God is someone new, I wonder if they will make it an omnipotent god or a more friendly god like the Genie from Aladdin.
    Hmmm...

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    :p
  • JakeJake Telltale Alumni
    edited November 2009
    Deepone wrote: »
    Hint: Every MI game's last chapter happens on Monkey Island :p

    Monkey Island 2 didn't! That game also didn't have insult swordfighting or crew gathering. Sorta kinda like how Empire Strikes Back didn't have a Death Star but was still plenty of Star Wars.
  • edited November 2009
    Jake wrote: »
    Monkey Island 2 didn't! That game also didn't have insult swordfighting or crew gathering. Sorta kinda like how Empire Strikes Back didn't have a Death Star but was still plenty of Star Wars.

    Well, as a stand-alone game it didn't, but as part of the larger series, the third game retconned the ending of MI2 to take place on Monkey Island.
  • edited November 2009
    Trenchfoot wrote: »
    If the Pirate God is someone new, I wonder if they will make it an omnipotent god or a more friendly god like the Genie from Aladdin.
    Hmmm...

    dibujoelm.jpg

    :p

    I'm hoping for a Aladdin-esc Genie!
  • edited November 2009
    Jake wrote: »
    Monkey Island 2 didn't! That game also didn't have insult swordfighting or crew gathering. Sorta kinda like how Empire Strikes Back didn't have a Death Star but was still plenty of Star Wars.

    That analogy would worked better if the series esd called Death Star but good point! :D
  • edited November 2009
    *closes eyes and sticks fingers in ears* La la la I can't hear you!

    Always one of the best responses in an argument XD
  • edited November 2009
    wouldn't it be interesting if when GT finally comes back some significant amount of time has passed in the real world.
  • edited November 2009
    Irishmile wrote: »
    wouldn't it be interesting if when GT finally comes back some significant amount of time has passed in the real world.

    Like 9 years?

    Oh, you mean the in-game real world...
  • edited November 2009
    LOL yeah...
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