The Epic LeChuck's Revenge Comparison Thread!
I have to admit I have somewhat of a comparison fetish. I always watch those 360 vs PS3 videos and LOVE comparing HD remakes to the originals. Especially when they are of games I love (and I love Monkey Island 2 a LOT).
So I give you my "The Epic LeChuck's Revenge Comparison Thread!", please contribute as you see fit
Really love how this is turning out. It's so faithful that from a distance (or with a squint) you can hardly tell the difference.
My only complaint is Guybrush missing his chinstrap beard. May be some backlash from that (from me ). Looking over the screens I really miss the chinstrap beard
Guybrush
Walk animation has been bumped from 6 to 22 frames!
Higher quality Flash version
Screenshots
More to come tomorrow when I have time.
So I give you my "The Epic LeChuck's Revenge Comparison Thread!", please contribute as you see fit
Really love how this is turning out. It's so faithful that from a distance (or with a squint) you can hardly tell the difference.
My only complaint is Guybrush missing his chinstrap beard. May be some backlash from that (from me ). Looking over the screens I really miss the chinstrap beard
Guybrush
Walk animation has been bumped from 6 to 22 frames!
Higher quality Flash version
Screenshots
More to come tomorrow when I have time.
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At first I was apprehensive about Guybrush's new sprite, but if I imagine Dom's voice over it, it seems way more promising.
However he's grown on me, now I think he looks great, the blonde hair and lack of beard is my only problems with it. He has stubble but in the original it looked like an actual (albiet poor) beard, especially with a noticeable tuft protruding from his chin.
If I had my way they would add a little bit of chinstrap beard to the sprite. But a minor quibble really. Other than that it looks fantastic.
Yeah, I've thought about this too. I think that these two games are trying to stay true to the third, fourth and fifth games though, and Guybrush was still not totally mature in the third game. For this reason, a little bit of stubble, in my opinion, bridges the gap between the young teenager of MI1 and the young adult of MI3. That's just how I feel about it though, and how I justify it
I think they've handled the clouds well. They haven't been like "the fans want swirly Tiller clouds!! We must add them into every scene!!", they've used the technique where appropriate and subtly enough that it works as well as it did in monkey island 3.
I'm not.. I think it's awesome
Although this might just be used on the website...
For some reason I can't find the music?! I have all the sounds but the music is not there. I'll investigate.
Nah that's stubble! The original had a full chin strap beard. Take a look at the orignal poster. In this he just has blonde stubble, and there is no additional thickness in the chin strap region.
I highly doubt they would add all those frames of animation just for the website. LeChuck also has 22 frames, so pretty sure they have increased the animation frames for the game. Which is great because after upgrading to HD, 6 frames in a walk animation really stands out as too few.
http://www.lucasarts.com/games/monkeyisland2/audio/website_woodtick.mp3
Ah, not embedded in the SWF at all. Should have known to check the cache for a stand alone audio file.
Good work.
That is a peg leg, or am I just seeing things?
Anyway, I really love the style of the game, especially Guybrush looks great! Unfortunetely I don't really like the look of Elaine, at least in that screenshot... her face looks strange somehow.
Not a peg leg, just a thing leg, you can see his foot at the bottom.
Thanks for finding this!
Thanks ^_^
I have to say, it's like the same character now looks completely different, at least in SOMI and LCR you could tell they were the same character, the different art styles on these guys now make them look like different characters all together.
Anyway, I never noticed before but the screen where Largo is shaking down Guybrush it looks like there's a coin falling out of his pockets. That's a neat new effect.
Also it'd be pretty twisted and misleading to go ahead and plan and draw 22 frames of animation, throw it on the promotional website, and not put it in the game. It wouldn't be impossible to implement an interpretive frame filler to fit more frames in between each classic frame of animation. Besides it says on the features list that it has feature animation quality artwork.
If that Guybrush walk cycle isn't in the game I'm going to feel very disappointed and deceived.
I have two things to say about this.
Firstly, I think that the CMI joke would be enhanced. I believe the line was "I used to have a really cool beard" or something like that. This would be funnier (and truer to his character/age) if the "cool beard" was actually just his first ever stubble.
Secondly, this gets around the joke at the start of LeChuck's Revenge where Guybrush says he's going after something big and the two pirates say "a beard?" (or something like that) which didn't really make sense because he already had a beard.
In fact, it's debatable whether he did have a proper beard or not. Not only does that joke suggest that he was supposed to only have stubble, but you can see in this sprite sheet (http://media.photobucket.com/image/guybrush%20sprite%20sheet/ultimeciaffb_2/Monkey%20Island/GuybrushMI2Sheet.png) that while he was sitting on the log it didn't look like he had a beard at all, and on the phatt island semi-close-up his beard looks a lot lighter and thinner than in the smaller sprite.
This is all just geeky scrutiny though, and maybe in the special editions commentary they'll reveal the elusive truth
Guybrush: "Hey! How did you know about my growing beard attempt?"
Parafrazing slightly. I can give an accurate quote in about an hour if really needed .
MI2 6 Frames
CMI 12 Frames
MI2SE 22 Frames
So I definitely don't think it's a bad change.
I always read it as a chin strap beard was all he could grow. Which is a lame beard for a pirate. Because there is no doubt it is a real chin strap beard here, and not just stubble -
And one more thing... who are all YOU PEOPLE??!
its next to the maze if you go down halway past maze and hes hanging in a dungen and will tell you you need to get the key from lechuck chamber and he has dinky island map memoriesed
Awesome!!
Your gif is just great ^^ Can i stole it? xD
Wally: You? Don't make me laugh! You couldn't even grow a decent beard!
Guybrush: Hey! How did you know about my attempted beard?
Wally: Uh, pirate's intuition
Finished Curse a few days ago. Its fresh in mind.
Of course, help yourself. If anyone wants the FLA for the high quality version, there welcome to that too.
http://flat-life.com/temp/monkey/GuybrushSEwalk.html
I'm pretty sure it is a 3D model. Same with the LeChuck on the lucasarts site. Maybe they all are (or maybe it is just good animation like you said - who knows?)
I think they've done a great job with the artwork! Great backgrounds, and there are some fun-looking character designs too. I like what they've done with the Booty Island cannon dude (Augustus DeWaat?).