Arvo made the choice to go to the Observation Deck to hide medicine for whatever reason, it is relevant because he chose to hide the medicine there. Considering the group just escaped a full community of strangers who had weapons which injured Kenny, caused Carlos to die and determinantly got Alvin killed, do you think someone like Jane would just let a complete stranger, who can threaten her and tell her that he's in a group, leave with his gun, which he also pointed at her although that was reasonable since Arvo was startled by a stranger as well.
How do we know there was an actual robbery if Clementine didn't steal the medicine? Do you believe that Jane got up the next morning, found Arvo's medicine supply and then completely forgot about it when she heard gunshots and thought the group was in trouble? Also, it's quite interesting how Arvo tried to hide the medicine and then told his group that it was stolen from him. Actions speak louder than words after all, allot of things don't match up, it can only make sense if Clementine did steal the medicine, otherwise, there are some plot holes.
I'd say that Jane also cared about Luke to some extent, considering she seemed to feel very upset about his death.
Blame Arvo for coming with a bag of medicine? No, Arvo would have no idea that anyone else was at the deck. Yes, one can ask the question "w… morehy would've Arvo fine there in the first place, " but that's really irrelevant; Jane made a conscious decision to rob Arvo if his gun and threaten him when they could'very said nothing or told him to get lost, but let him keep gotta weapon. Now if you could choose to not interact with Arvo (Jane included) then I would accept that the ambush was unrelated. When the Arvo first confronts the group he tells Clem that theven others are laughing b/c Arvo got robbed by a little girl. That's a dead give away that there's a casual relation b/there the robbery and the Ambush.
Now, I will agree that Clem was the first person besides Jaime that Jane really cared about, hence why she came back and ultimately saves everyone.
I never gave it much thought to be honest... But I think I would include 'doing harm to another in order to feel good' in my defenition of it. I think it can be classified as both evil and immoral.
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I found luke to be annoying also. From the moment I met him and he dropped clementine I hated him. Him being annoying, self centered, and an egotistical douche bag added on to that hate. I also feel as though he had an messiah complex. The incident with jane just made me want to see him drown and get shot in the leg over and over again. Every option towards him is a silent option. Which does nothing because you still talk to him and he still is a try hard in everything.
If we are talking about which to save; Kenny or Jane. I have to go with Jane. I liked Kenny in season 1, but season 2 he's more of a dick th… morean before. I don't particularly like Jane, especially when I caught her with Luke. I personally wish the choice was between Luke and Kenny, so I could watch Kenny kill him. That guy was annoying.
I found luke to be annoying also. From the moment I met him and he dropped clementine I hated him. Him being annoying, self centered, and an… more egotistical douche bag added on to that hate. I also feel as though he had an messiah complex. The incident with jane just made me want to see him drown and get shot in the leg over and over again. Every option towards him is a silent option. Which does nothing because you still talk to him and he still is a try hard in everything.
Exactly. You're definitely not alone. And even when you didn't say anything to him instead of him getting the hint he douchely says I have a way of getting women to talk to me or something similar to that. That's a creep thing to say. There are bad implications in what he said. He was also a failure as a leader.
To be fair, Luke only said, in a joking manner, that he is good at talking to women who don't want to talk to him. And Clementine is a kid, so I doubt that his expression had any obscene implication.
I share the view that he isn't leader material though.
Exactly. You're definitely not alone. And even when you didn't say anything to him instead of him getting the hint he douchely says I have a… more way of getting women to talk to me or something similar to that. That's a creep thing to say. There are bad implications in what he said. He was also a failure as a leader.
Thank you for typing what he exactly said. I forgot and I personally don't think he should've said that but I can understand it being a joke and it technically having nothing to do with clementine.
To be fair, Luke only said, in a joking manner, that he is good at talking to women who don't want to talk to him. And Clementine is a kid, … moreso I doubt that his expression had any obscene implication.
I share the view that he isn't leader material though.
Actually, he said girls, not women, so while it lessens the creepiness of the comment—kind of—the degree in which it applies to Clem is higher. And sure, no pebbles!
Thank you for typing what he exactly said. I forgot and I personally don't think he should've said that but I can understand it being a joke and it technically having nothing to do with clementine.
I wanted to leave both of them, however I knew that going with Kenny would leave me to wellington, so I let him kill jane, then went into Wellington by myself. Didn't really care about them both.
Actually, he said girls, not women, so while it lessens the creepiness of the comment—kind of—the degree in which it applies to Clem is higher. And sure, no pebbles!
when you first meet him he is trying to hide a small bag in the trash can on the tower. when confronted you see that it is full of medicine and he says how he doesn't trust his group with the medicine as his sister needs the medicine. the gun gets taken no matter what, so you have a point there, though on the other hand his group have AK's and everyone seems to be able to get their hands on a gun without too much trouble. if his group was willing to fight another group of armed people over something as trivial as a gun then they were bound to get killed off sooner or later. combine that with the verbal confrontation at the beginning which eliminates the element of surprise and the bad shots that they must have been to not kill anyone in the fight and it becomes a wonder as to why they even were alive to have that fight.
in other words it is a writing snafu either way you look at it.
I don't recall Arvo every saying that he was hiding the supplies from his group. But regardless of his motives for hiding the medicine JANE … moreSTEALS ARVO'S GUN and then threatens to kill him. It doesn't matter if Clem's group needs Arvo's gun b/c Jane stealz it anyway. That's the reason for the ambush. Some things are a little vague, but that cause and effect is pretty clear.
I don't recall Arvo every saying that he was hiding the supplies from his group. But regardless of his motives for hiding the medicine JANE … moreSTEALS ARVO'S GUN and then threatens to kill him. It doesn't matter if Clem's group needs Arvo's gun b/c Jane stealz it anyway. That's the reason for the ambush. Some things are a little vague, but that cause and effect is pretty clear.
I don't recall Arvo every saying that he was hiding the supplies from his group. But regardless of his motives for hiding the medicine JANE … moreSTEALS ARVO'S GUN and then threatens to kill him. It doesn't matter if Clem's group needs Arvo's gun b/c Jane stealz it anyway. That's the reason for the ambush. Some things are a little vague, but that cause and effect is pretty clear.
I don't recall Arvo every saying that he was hiding the supplies from his group. But regardless of his motives for hiding the medicine JANE … moreSTEALS ARVO'S GUN and then threatens to kill him. It doesn't matter if Clem's group needs Arvo's gun b/c Jane stealz it anyway. That's the reason for the ambush. Some things are a little vague, but that cause and effect is pretty clear.
I don't recall Arvo every saying that he was hiding the supplies from his group. But regardless of his motives for hiding the medicine JANE … moreSTEALS ARVO'S GUN and then threatens to kill him. It doesn't matter if Clem's group needs Arvo's gun b/c Jane stealz it anyway. That's the reason for the ambush. Some things are a little vague, but that cause and effect is pretty clear.
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Arvo made the choice to go to the Observation Deck to hide medicine for whatever reason, it is relevant because he chose to hide the medicine there. Considering the group just escaped a full community of strangers who had weapons which injured Kenny, caused Carlos to die and determinantly got Alvin killed, do you think someone like Jane would just let a complete stranger, who can threaten her and tell her that he's in a group, leave with his gun, which he also pointed at her although that was reasonable since Arvo was startled by a stranger as well.
How do we know there was an actual robbery if Clementine didn't steal the medicine? Do you believe that Jane got up the next morning, found Arvo's medicine supply and then completely forgot about it when she heard gunshots and thought the group was in trouble? Also, it's quite interesting how Arvo tried to hide the medicine and then told his group that it was stolen from him. Actions speak louder than words after all, allot of things don't match up, it can only make sense if Clementine did steal the medicine, otherwise, there are some plot holes.
I'd say that Jane also cared about Luke to some extent, considering she seemed to feel very upset about his death.
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I found luke to be annoying also. From the moment I met him and he dropped clementine I hated him. Him being annoying, self centered, and an egotistical douche bag added on to that hate. I also feel as though he had an messiah complex. The incident with jane just made me want to see him drown and get shot in the leg over and over again. Every option towards him is a silent option. Which does nothing because you still talk to him and he still is a try hard in everything.
Glad to see I'm not the only one. It was like every time Clem turned around, there he was all up her ass. She could never get away from that guy.
Exactly. You're definitely not alone. And even when you didn't say anything to him instead of him getting the hint he douchely says I have a way of getting women to talk to me or something similar to that. That's a creep thing to say. There are bad implications in what he said. He was also a failure as a leader.
To be fair, Luke only said, in a joking manner, that he is good at talking to women who don't want to talk to him. And Clementine is a kid, so I doubt that his expression had any obscene implication.
I share the view that he isn't leader material though.
Thank you for typing what he exactly said. I forgot and I personally don't think he should've said that but I can understand it being a joke and it technically having nothing to do with clementine.
Actually, he said girls, not women, so while it lessens the creepiness of the comment—kind of—the degree in which it applies to Clem is higher. And sure, no pebbles!
I wanted to leave both of them, however I knew that going with Kenny would leave me to wellington, so I let him kill jane, then went into Wellington by myself. Didn't really care about them both.
If he said girls then I stand by my first comment about this matter.
it's better to leave molly alone they might gonna ruined molly's character since i lost faith in season 2 writers
when you first meet him he is trying to hide a small bag in the trash can on the tower. when confronted you see that it is full of medicine and he says how he doesn't trust his group with the medicine as his sister needs the medicine. the gun gets taken no matter what, so you have a point there, though on the other hand his group have AK's and everyone seems to be able to get their hands on a gun without too much trouble. if his group was willing to fight another group of armed people over something as trivial as a gun then they were bound to get killed off sooner or later. combine that with the verbal confrontation at the beginning which eliminates the element of surprise and the bad shots that they must have been to not kill anyone in the fight and it becomes a wonder as to why they even were alive to have that fight.
in other words it is a writing snafu either way you look at it.
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