I guess what I meant was, it's more like you have the option to play him as a mary sue, being perfectly rational and calm while everyone else breaks down.
Still, there are moments where I think he takes things in stride way too well regardless of your own choices (his own bite and clem going missing at the same time. You'd think think that would emotionally cripple him for at least a few minutes.)
Eh, I suppose I can see what you're getting at and I believe I did think the concept over with him in mind at one point. But here's the dist… moreinction: He's not perfect or even hypercompetent.
* He was humorously clumsy at first, but improved over time
* Not everyone likes him immediately. In fact, some never really liked him.
* He makes mistakes and bad choices from time to time
* His marriage had been failing for a while
* He has lost his cool in the past, ruining his life, and he can/will lose it again at points
* Some people outclass him in different areas
* Some people have/had what he wanted but never got
There are probably other reasons that factor into that sum up, but that should get the point across.
I actually found all of those lines to be very realistic and humanizing. Clem and Kenny had so much emotion behind their respective lines and the other ones show that Javi's group is very flawed but ultimately still just some poor kids and a step mom.
The most cringey ones had to be at Marianas funeral.... "You were just... so full of LIFE...."
"Well at least you don't have to walk around with bloody underwear" (perfectly encapsulates the struggles of living in the depressing world of the dead)
During the escape, Troy comes out demanding to know what's going on and draws on Luke when he sees him reach for a gun, but lowers his weapon when Jane approaches him and reminds him that they had a deal of some sort that involved getting her out. When she suggests that he come with them, he seems to become uncharacteristically pacified and concerned after briefly thinking about it. This, along with the fact that he just assumed she wanted to get out of the pin, her false-encouragement that they "can leave--together," and his interrupted suggestion that she get a bath before they do something, suggests that she seduced him early on to get an ally on the inside with the intention of using his feeling for her to set up her escape when the opportunity presented itself.
Another little piece of trivia that came from Troy's VA among other sources was that Troy was originally a far more threatening character, right up to being Carver himself at one point, who was a lot more aggressive to the point of there being a scene of him harassing Jane. For whatever reason, (most likely an attempt to make Carver and Jane seem more dangerous in comparison) many of those things were cut .
During the escape, Troy comes out demanding to know what's going on and draws on Luke when he sees him reach for a gun, but lowers his weapo… moren when Jane approaches him and reminds him that they had a deal of some sort that involved getting her out. When she suggests that he come with them, he seems to become uncharacteristically pacified and concerned after briefly thinking about it. This, along with the fact that he just assumed she wanted to get out of the pin, her false-encouragement that they "can leave--together," and his interrupted suggestion that she get a bath before they do something, suggests that she seduced him early on to get an ally on the inside with the intention of using his feeling for her to set up her escape when the opportunity presented itself.
Another little piece of trivia that came from Troy's VA among other sources was that Troy was originally a far more threatening character, right up to being Carver himself at o… [view original content]
I really like Javier as the protagonist and wish the story was more about him and his family as the first 20 or so minutes are the strongest… more part of A New Frontier so far and was more interesting then another "Can this Dysfunctional group survive?!" story.
1 is dead and 1 was out of commission for basically 2 episodes maybe 3. I was more interested in the core group at the start then what we have now. Imagine if all 4 survived until the end and we got that shocking death after we got to know them better and their relation with each other. I'm quickly getting tired of this series shuffling the cast every episode.
I never really bought into Luke's charm and I found him to be a selfish coward most of the game.
He disagrees about the shed decision but… more doesn't actually take a stand and do the right thing until it's too late. He wants to hide Matthew's murder and lie to a good man who housed them and fed them, despite Nick wanting to immediately do the right thing and tell Walt. He chooses not to help Kenny fight Carvers group and gets caught trying to steal food of all things. He screws Jane during walker duty and gets defensive about it. And he generally just said stupid shit, like "you just dont kill dogs that maul you" and "I would've killed Carver too but Kenny should have killed him less".
He did end sacrificing himself for Clem in my game, so I forgive it all.
If you go after him on the ice despite him begging you not to, both end up falling in for a bit. One of the walkers that fell through tries to attack Clementine but Luke grabs it and tosses it towards the floor. Unfortunately, the walker grabs his leg as it sinks and drags him down with it.
This. Kill off the Ducks, Kennys, Carleys etc for dramatic effect. But ffs keep Lee and Clementine together! It should have been those two together to the end
I really don't think The New Frontier is that bad. Sure, the episodes aren't long enough and I'll definitely say that that isn't fair. If Ep… moreisode 1&2 were a single episode I would actually be really stoked with Season 3, but unfortunately that's not the case. However I don't really get all the hate for the new characters etc. I think Tripp is fine, while maybe a bit boring, and I thought Javi, Kate and his little sister (forget the name, I'm really bad at names) were all quite cool characters, and while the little brother is a whiny cunt who shouldn't have survived 4 years in the ZA I can buy that very rarely a group will sort of fly under the radar and not run into any hugely troubling situations if they don't take many risks and avoid conflict. I will also say that the Clementine flashbacks were extremely unsatisfying in terms of making our Season 1/2 choices make a difference especially since it was hyped to have "such and such many di… [view original content]
If you go after him on the ice despite him begging you not to, both end up falling in for a bit. One of the walkers that fell through tries … moreto attack Clementine but Luke grabs it and tosses it towards the floor. Unfortunately, the walker grabs his leg as it sinks and drags him down with it.
I would have beaten down Charles for telling Clementine that she was going to die.
Whenever I post this on Youtube, I get, "NO, MAN. CHARLES KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. YOU'RE BEING DUMB."
Yeah. I don't care if he was being helpful. You don't talk to a small child in that manner.
I would have beaten him down then, if I hadn't literally thrown him off the train during the beat down, I would have told him to stay away from Clem.
Here is another one that is possibly unpopular:
Although Jesus comes across as cool AF in the comics (I don't watch the show) my douche detector goes off the charts for him when I see him in the game.
His voice in itself would just say, "massive douche" to me.
Here is another one that is possibly unpopular:
Although Jesus comes across as cool AF in the comics (I don't watch the show) my douche det… moreector goes off the charts for him when I see him in the game.
His voice in itself would just say, "massive douche" to me.
Nate wasn't the masked bandit that attacked the old couple. He was coming from the opposite direction of the diner and he never would have pulled up and sat in front of a place that he had attacked and left the old couple in. He nearly got his head blown off, the only reason he didn't is because Walt was a terrible shot.
Nate was a crazy bastard for sure, but he was not responsible for attacking the old couple initially.
I actually enjoyed Survival Instinct. I don't get the hate of it. Yeah, the A.I. of that game was stupid but it had a lot of replay value. I would just say it was a decent game.
I would have beaten down Charles for telling Clementine that she was going to die.
Whenever I post this on Youtube, I get, "NO, MAN. CHARLE… moreS KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. YOU'RE BEING DUMB."
Yeah. I don't care if he was being helpful. You don't talk to a small child in that manner.
I would have beaten him down then, if I hadn't literally thrown him off the train during the beat down, I would have told him to stay away from Clem.
If I'm just basing my opinion off how I felt after the first two episodes of each season, I vastly prefer the new characters introduced in S2 to S3, and find most of S3s horribly cliche.
If I'm just basing my opinion off how I felt after the first two episodes of each season, I vastly prefer the new characters introduced in S2 to S3, and find most of S3s horribly cliche.
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I think Clem should be playable in Lego Dimensions.
Yeah, you're probably right.
I guess what I meant was, it's more like you have the option to play him as a mary sue, being perfectly rational and calm while everyone else breaks down.
Still, there are moments where I think he takes things in stride way too well regardless of your own choices (his own bite and clem going missing at the same time. You'd think think that would emotionally cripple him for at least a few minutes.)
Also, he wasn't clumsy, he had a leg injury
I don't personally see what's wrong with this line. The line itself? The delivery of it? It seems fine to me... but you know, that's just me.
Where was it even indicated that they had sex/were in a relationship?
I actually found all of those lines to be very realistic and humanizing. Clem and Kenny had so much emotion behind their respective lines and the other ones show that Javi's group is very flawed but ultimately still just some poor kids and a step mom.
The most cringey ones had to be at Marianas funeral.... "You were just... so full of LIFE...."
You're a male right?
I agree.
You help me and I'll help you. Troy saying she should take a bath first etc
Gabe and Clem should try eachothers hats
Tripp is New Frontier and not Eleanor
During the escape, Troy comes out demanding to know what's going on and draws on Luke when he sees him reach for a gun, but lowers his weapon when Jane approaches him and reminds him that they had a deal of some sort that involved getting her out. When she suggests that he come with them, he seems to become uncharacteristically pacified and concerned after briefly thinking about it. This, along with the fact that he just assumed she wanted to get out of the pin, her false-encouragement that they "can leave--together," and his interrupted suggestion that she get a bath before they do something, suggests that she seduced him early on to get an ally on the inside with the intention of using his feeling for her to set up her escape when the opportunity presented itself.
Another little piece of trivia that came from Troy's VA among other sources was that Troy was originally a far more threatening character, right up to being Carver himself at one point, who was a lot more aggressive to the point of there being a scene of him harassing Jane. For whatever reason, (most likely an attempt to make Carver and Jane seem more dangerous in comparison) many of those things were cut .
I'm glad I'm not the only one who found the constant use of that nickname to be a bit, for lack of a better word, cringeworthy.
^^^This
No, no.
Just.
Never mind.
Yeah it's always been a theme but this story especially seems like it will be about family which is very interesting.
1 is dead and 1 was out of commission for basically 2 episodes maybe 3. I was more interested in the core group at the start then what we have now. Imagine if all 4 survived until the end and we got that shocking death after we got to know them better and their relation with each other. I'm quickly getting tired of this series shuffling the cast every episode.
Lol, ThugLife!Clementine and TeamPlayer!Gabe!
Kenny is overhated
If you mean just on the forums, I agree.
But he isn't hated much everywhere else.
How does Luke save Clem? Seems I never took that path.
If you go after him on the ice despite him begging you not to, both end up falling in for a bit. One of the walkers that fell through tries to attack Clementine but Luke grabs it and tosses it towards the floor. Unfortunately, the walker grabs his leg as it sinks and drags him down with it.
This. Kill off the Ducks, Kennys, Carleys etc for dramatic effect. But ffs keep Lee and Clementine together! It should have been those two together to the end
Yes
tl;dr
Ah, thanks. Never did that.
I would have beaten down Charles for telling Clementine that she was going to die.
Whenever I post this on Youtube, I get, "NO, MAN. CHARLES KNEW WHAT HE WAS TALKING ABOUT. YOU'RE BEING DUMB."
Yeah. I don't care if he was being helpful. You don't talk to a small child in that manner.
I would have beaten him down then, if I hadn't literally thrown him off the train during the beat down, I would have told him to stay away from Clem.
Here is another one that is possibly unpopular:
Although Jesus comes across as cool AF in the comics (I don't watch the show) my douche detector goes off the charts for him when I see him in the game.
His voice in itself would just say, "massive douche" to me.
Same. A bit too silvertongued, if that's the way to express it.
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You knew what, I think that'd be the better twist.
I agree with the first and third things.
And that right is both how he could've been interesting and why some things sucked where Clementine was involved.
Nate wasn't the masked bandit that attacked the old couple. He was coming from the opposite direction of the diner and he never would have pulled up and sat in front of a place that he had attacked and left the old couple in. He nearly got his head blown off, the only reason he didn't is because Walt was a terrible shot.
Nate was a crazy bastard for sure, but he was not responsible for attacking the old couple initially.
Fucking Double Post
I actually enjoyed Survival Instinct. I don't get the hate of it. Yeah, the A.I. of that game was stupid but it had a lot of replay value. I would just say it was a decent game.
It was Chuck?
Name's Chuck, Charles if you're fancy
If I'm just basing my opinion off how I felt after the first two episodes of each season, I vastly prefer the new characters introduced in S2 to S3, and find most of S3s horribly cliche.
That's pretty popular opinion.
I feel like I've seen it said alot about Gabe, but not so much about the other done to death character types.