The Incredible Puzzle Thread

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  • edited June 2010
    NeatNit wrote: »
    Does it require hex editing software?
    Nope!
    NeatNit wrote: »
    Does it require any software at all, or is it something in the picture that we need to solve?
    You will require some other software, yeah.
    NeatNit wrote: »
    Is the answer "shifdrows"?
    Nope!
  • edited June 2010
    Didero wrote: »
    Dumb safe riddle

    I want to know the answer! 'sides, I already have a cookie from you
  • edited June 2010
    reposting the image, I think it'll be more comfortable...
    safea.gif
    If you find this you rock ;)
  • edited June 2010
    NeatNit wrote: »
    reposting the image, I think it'll be more comfortable...
    safea.gif
    If you find this you rock ;)
    You win! :D
    Fun puzzle, isn't it?
    I'll give the rest of you a chance to solve it too. I'll post the solution tomorrow, for those that are still stumped.
  • edited June 2010
    I'll post the next one then!

    Really easy.
    There is a note. It reads:
    1. There is exactly one lie on this note.
    2. There are exactly two lies on this note.
    3. There are exactly three lies on this note.
    4. There are exactly four lies on this note.
    5. There are exactly five lies on this note.
    6. There are exactly six lies on this note.
    7. There are exactly seven lies on this note.
    8. There are exactly eight lies on this note.
    9. There are exactly nine lies on this note.
    10. There are exactly ten lies on this note.
    11. There are exactly 11 lies on this note.
    12. There are exactly 12 lies on this note.
    13. There are exactly 13 lies on this note.
    14. There are exactly 14 lies on this note.
    15. There are exactly 15 lies on this note.
    16. There are exactly 16 lies on this note.
    17. There are exactly 17 lies on this note.
    18. There are exactly 18 lies on this note.
    19. There are exactly 19 lies on this note.
    20. There are exactly 20 lies on this note.
    How many of these are true, and which ones?
  • edited June 2010
    NeatNit wrote: »
    I'll post the next one then!

    Really easy.
    There is a note. It reads:How many of these are true, and which ones?

    there are 2 that are true and they are number 1 and number 19
  • edited June 2010
    prizna wrote: »
    there are 2 that are true and they are number 1 and number 19

    Really? I would have said just number 19.

    EDIT: so what, the safe thing was just about reposting the picture with text before and after it?
  • edited June 2010
    How is 1 true?
  • edited June 2010
    1 is true because the word lie appears in that paragraph once, I looked at it a different way:

    The word lie appears once so there is 1 lie on the note, the word lies appears 19 times so there are 19 lies on the note
  • edited June 2010
    Ah. You mean the word "lie". I just figured since they're mutually exclusive only one was true, and it had to be "number of sentences" - 1, that is 19.
  • edited June 2010
    prizna wrote: »
    1 is true because the word lie appears in that paragraph once, I looked at it a different way:

    The word lie appears once so there is 1 lie on the note, the word lies appears 19 times so there are 19 lies on the note

    what difference does that make? its talking about the whole note!

    also, 19 is true
  • edited June 2010
    what difference does that make? its talking about the whole note!

    It does make a difference if you interpret it to mean "the word "lie" appears once in this note" and "the word "lies" appears 19 times in this note". Which, to be fair, is the kind of "trick" that's common in riddles.
  • edited June 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    It does make a difference if you interpret it to mean "the word "lie" appears once in this note" and "the word "lies" appears 19 times in this note". Which, to be fair, is the kind of "trick" that's common in riddles.

    :rolleyes: of course! then 1 and 19 both work!
  • edited June 2010
    yay I kinda win
  • edited June 2010
    lol, I didn't think of that at all :)
  • edited June 2010
    ok so the 1 and 19 i guess is the answer
    but i still dont get the safe puzzle all you had to do was repost it.
  • edited June 2010
    When you see the solution, you'll know how I won ;)
  • edited June 2010
    NeatNit wrote: »
    When you see the solution, you'll know how I won ;)

    I can see the answer but not how to open it properly.
  • edited June 2010
    Hm, the answer presumably has to do with "
    beep.mid
    " then. That said I still can't seem to open it properly with either
    text editors or media players
    .
  • edited June 2010
    Harald B wrote: »
    Hm, the answer presumably has to do with "
    beep.mid
    " then. That said I still can't seem to open it properly with either
    text editors or media players
    .
    .mid means MIDI(Musical Instrument Digital Interface).You can open it with QuickTime Player.
  • edited June 2010
    .mid means MIDI(Musical Instrument Digital Interface).You can open it with QuickTime Player.
    What you said doesn't help at all, and AFAIK even Windows Media Player can open MIDI files.
  • edited June 2010
    NeatNit wrote: »
    What you said doesn't help at all, and AFAIK even Windows Media Player can open MIDI files.

    (edit: nevermind, figured it out and PMed Didero with the answer.)
  • edited June 2010
    Didero wrote: »
    You win! :D
    Fun puzzle, isn't it?
    I'll give the rest of you a chance to solve it too. I'll post the solution tomorrow, for those that are still stumped.

    Comeon... It's tomorrow somewhere... What's the answer?
  • edited June 2010
    ANSWER TIME!
    First, let me repeat the puzzle:
    Can you figure out my riddle?

    safea.gif

    (Post your findings and get one internet cookie)

    The puzzle actually consists of two parts, though the first is apparently the most difficult since most of you didn't solve it :)

    I'll do this the same way questions are answered in the Hints sections of the different games, with increasingly less vague hints, with the last one just being the answer. That way you can still solve it by yourself if you want :)
    Part 1
    1. What's depicted is not important, but the image file is.
    2. The Wikipedia article on 'steganography' might give some hints. I'd link it here, but links show through spoiler tags.
    3. There's something hidden inside the image file.
    4. Searching the internet for 'hide data in image' or something similar will help you.
    5. If you're still lost, just do this: If you have 7-zip installed, open the image with that. Otherwise, rename the file to 'safea.rar' and open it with your preferred archive opener. (I'm not entirely sure if it is a rar file, since I use 7-zip myself, which doesn't care about the extension. If '.rar' doesn't work, try '.zip'. Sorry) You should find a file inside. Halfway there!
    Side info:
    The fact that there's a file hidden inside the image is the reason the image is low-quality. The hidden data is basically interference. That doesn't mean all low-quality images have a file hidden in them, but it can be an indication.
    Part 2
    Before you start this part, you should have everything you can get from the image (Namely,
    the famed "beep.mid" file
    ). This part is probably easier than the previous one, but if you're still stuck, follow these hints:
    1. What a strange sound. Though it does seem consistent...
    2. Maybe a message is hidden in the beeps.
    3. Now what signalling language consists of short and long beeps...?
    4. Oh, I know! It's Morse code!
    5. It's going rather fast though... There probably are plenty of ways to have it automatically translated. The next hint describes my way, if you're curious and/or still lost.
    6. The way I solved it, which is most likely a pretty roundabout way of doing it, is like this: Audacity, a free audio editing application, can't handle MIDI files. Therefore, I needed to convert 'beep.mid' to something Audacity does understand. There are plenty of sites and programs that can convert it for you, Google helped me find one. I then opened the MP3 file the site created for me, in Audacity. The short and long beeps clearly show as peaks, with a clear distinction between short beeps and long beeps. I wrote the different beeps down, with dots for short and dashes for long beeps. I then found a 'Morse code to text' translating site and converted the Morse code to something readable.
    That should lead you to the solution:
    "If you find this you rock"
    .

    I hope that helps people find the answer, and helps impatient people just get the answer :)
    But if you find the answer on your own, you rock!

    And for your patience with my silly puzzle, you all get internet cookies:
    chocolatechipcookiesm.jpg
    I don't think there are enough for everybody though, so you'll have to share. Except people who found the answer without (too many) hints ;)
  • edited June 2010
    ...

    I'm glad that your friend doesn't design Telltale's puzzles. It would never occur to me to
    unzip a file that doesn't seem to need unzipping
    , and the message uncovered at the end isn't much of a payoff :(
  • edited June 2010
    I stopped caring a while back. Barely glanced at the solution. This sounds like an Ouverture Facile kind of thing, except on that website that's the kind of thing you expect.

    Thanks for sharing, though, and sorry we didn't get it.
  • edited June 2010
    Ha ha!

    I didn't think my puzzle (yes, now that I think about it, thats a better name for it) would cause so much trouble. :D
    I'm his friend who came up with the puzzle.

    If you want some more info, here is how I made it:
    1st, I used free software to make the tone.

    Morse Code

    Then, I hid the file in picture with help from this.

    Hiding things in plain site

    (Basically, if your on windows, you can make one really simple with this code "copy /B source.gif+source.zip target.gif" it just has to be a gif)

    I felt hiding a text file would be too easy. I was going to add another layer, but I don't think that was needed now.
    Thanks for playing all, and sorry for trouble :)
  • edited June 2010
    Didero wrote: »
    ANSWER TIME!
    And for your patience with my silly puzzle, you all get internet cookies:
    chocolatechipcookiesm.jpg
    I don't think there are enough for everybody though, so you'll have to share. Except people who found the answer without (too many) hints ;)

    I'm stealing all the cookies that Avistew and Lena P didn't take, and they only took one and split it, so, that leaves me with how many cookies?
    Lena_P wrote: »
    ...

    I'm glad that your friend doesn't design Telltale's puzzles. It would never occur to me to
    unzip a file that doesn't seem to need unzipping
    , and the message uncovered at the end isn't much of a payoff :(

    I think it was ingenious. I hope that in Puzzle Agent there is one massive overarching puzzle (not just the storyline) that you have to solve certain puzzles to understand, thereby forcing you to complete as many puzzles as possible!
  • edited June 2010
    Oh wow that was fiendish fink, well done :)

    What comes next in the sequence:
    R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,Y
  • edited June 2010
    Oh wow that was fiendish fink, well done :)

    What comes next in the sequence:
    R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,Y

    Here are my guesses:

    1. A
    2. B
    3. C
    4. D
    5. E
    6. F
    7. G
    8. H
    9. I
    10. J
    11. K
    12. L
    13. M
    14. N
    15. O
    16. P
    17. Q
    18. R
    19. S
    20. T
    21. U
    22. V
    23. W
    24. X
    25. Y
    26. Z

    Now one of those HAS to be right!
  • edited June 2010
    Didero wrote: »
    Side info:
    The fact that there's a file hidden inside the image is the reason the image is low-quality. The hidden data is basically interference. That doesn't mean all low-quality images have a file hidden in them, but it can be an indication.
    This is not true. The reason this picture is "low quality" is that dithering was used to make it look better.
    It could have been a flawless picture, if that's what the creator had chosen.




    What comes next in the sequence:
    R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,Y
    My guess is that R stands for Red, B stands for Blue, and Y stands for Yellow, but I have no idea where this is from.
  • edited June 2010
    One of the highway's answers is correct
    and Neatnik
    is very close but made a little slip up.
  • edited June 2010
    One of the highway's answers is correct
    and Neatnik
    is very close but made a little slip up.

    Is the next one G?
  • edited June 2010
    NeatNit wrote: »
    My guess is that R stands for Red, B stands for Blue, and Y stands for Yellow, but I have no idea where this is from.

    I thought it was colours as well, but B could also be black. And I still have no idea what it all means.

    Also, I didn't take any cookie at all, Highway.
  • edited June 2010
    Avistew wrote: »
    I thought it was colours as well, but B could also be black. And I still have no idea what it all means.

    Also, I didn't take any cookie at all, Highway.

    It was a puzzle! Theoretically!

    Oh well, new try:

    Say Avistew was watching her weight and took no cookies. And say Lena P definitely wasn't watching her weight and took ten. How many cookies does that leave The Highway?
  • edited June 2010
    originalnumberofcookies-11?
  • edited June 2010
    Is the next one G?

    I thought of that too, but then it would have to be R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,Y
  • edited June 2010
    NeatNit wrote: »
    originalnumberofcookies-11?

    no, minus 10
  • edited June 2010
    Whoops! Shoulda checked my knowledge really. Bamse and The Highway are correct.
    So the pattern goes
    R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,
    R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,
    R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,R,B,Y,G

    If you solve it from now on, just give the next letter in the sequence, and so on. Someone else can give a new puzzle.
  • edited June 2010
    Fill in the blanks, both blanks must be the same word and the sentence must make sense

    "My (blank) is (blank) than my wallet"
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