I'm confused. If he deeply loved Clementine, why doesn't he help find her no matter what in No Time Left, instead of basing it on whether he… more likes Lee?
Also, for the last time (it shouldn't need to be repeated so much) many, many others have lost just as much as he did, and they haven't become abusive.
I'm confused. If he deeply loved Clementine, why doesn't he help find her no matter what in No Time Left, instead of basing it on whether he… more likes Lee?
Also, for the last time (it shouldn't need to be repeated so much) many, many others have lost just as much as he did, and they haven't become abusive.
Hes being sarcastic
Dan , most mental health issues aren't caused by physical brain damage , and anyways , if Kenny has brain damage he should probably be dead , since Carlos never said anything that implied he had treated Kenny for head injuries.
I can understand how losing someone could change you to the extent it changes Kenny but whether that's ok - even if it's out of your control… more - is an entirely different thing, is the excuse of losing people a justifiable response to doing anything bad? You can keep excusing the bad things Kenny has done on his loss but that doesn't negate the fact that he's still done those bad things you're trying to make excuses for. Remember, everyone has lost people, and yes I know that loss has different effects on people but is loss a good enough justification for killing another individual, for treating other individuals badly etc.? That's the controversial part - Emotions are a huge part of this, do you blame Kenny for his emotions affecting him out of his control or do you forgive him for all the bad things he's done on the note that he, like others, has gone through bad experiences?
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I never said most mental health issues are caused by physical damage but after what happened with Carver it could have happened. Carlos did say he doesn't know if there was damage to the brain until he wakes up. Point is, the brain damage is a theory anyway and im making the point that this could have been the reason for his violent outbursts
Dan , most mental health issues aren't caused by physical brain damage , and anyways , if Kenny has brain damage he should probably be dead , since Carlos never said anything that implied he had treated Kenny for head injuries.
"Lee , you know I care about Clem. And I am a Christian man ... but why should I have your back here when you haven't always had mine?"- ALSO Kenny to Lee at the end of "Around Every Corner".
Well, killing someone in order to stop a murder is something, but repeatedly bashing somebody else's face until you can't recognize them anymore is a whole different story.
If Kenny is a monster for what he did to Carver, then Clementine (and the player) who shot Kenny in the head are also monsters. Hate to bre… moreak it to you but killing, is killing. At that point in time Kenny was unarmed, and in no way a threat to Clementine. If you shot him, you're just like him.
Kenny's Clem's man, Clem's best friend, Clem's father figure (IN MY PLAYTHROUGH). I can't blame Kenny for becoming the man he became after K… moreatjaa's and Duck's death. He became quite sad, and I can't blame him for that. He's the most developed character (and changed), for me in a good way. He lost his girlfriend and lost all hope. Then Rebecca got A.J. and he regained hope once again. He loves kids, and he now how to raise 'em. He risked his life just to get Clem and A.J. to Wellington. He ran up the hill to see if there was any danger. He's a kind man, if you really gives him a chance, which many doesn't.
Apart from that, he has the best quotes.
Kenny: The best character of all time.
He always sided with Lee no matter how bad the circumstances were. I didn't help kill Larry and in… more episode 3 he stood by my side watching me QTE my ass off while walkers pinned me down under a door.
He cares about everyone in his group. When bandits attacked the motel, Lily sneaked out, got on the balcony, and saved the whole group from the raid. And Kenny expressed his affection: "Screw her. Let her stay." when the group was escaping.
He deeply loves and cares for Clementine in his heart. He proved it by not coming with me to look for Clementine because I wasn't there for him when he wanted to smash the head of a girl's father (the only person she had left), when he wanted me to drop a kid to death just because he INDIRECTLY caused his family's death.
Of course it was Ben's fault. If only he hadn't made that deal with the bandits, they wouldn't had bothered coming to the motor inn and the gr… [view original content]
"You've always been there for me, Lee. Always had my back when it mattered. What kind of friend would I be, if I wasn't there for you now? Y… moreou and Clementine are the only family I got left. I'm with you 'till the end!" - Kenny to Lee at the end of "Around Every Corner".
I think so too. He was edging towards it, but I dont really think he understand that until the very end. When I shot him, he told my Clem she did the right thing.
I've noticed this last couple of days that the Wikia glorifies Kenny and demonizes Lilly and Jane. You just have to go there and read their articles.
Kenny is generally characterised by needing a sense of purpose or more specifically, protecting people, which Lee noticed in "Around Every Corner".
That is a nice, poetic way of justifying all of his actions, LOL. Also, apparently, Lee noticed Kenny's need of protecting people just a day after Kenny had tried to punch him.
The thought of losing AJ, which apparently robbed him of purpose yet again, caused him to flip out beyond words but he calmed down once more with the discovery of AJ's safety.
Yeah, he did calm down… after he had killed a young woman by stabbing her in the heart with a knife, all while the girl who he feels the need to protect was watching. Parenting ten out of ten.
The fact that Kenny was willing to be on his own, with nobody to protect, so that Clementine and AJ could be safe in Wellington, demonstrated a severe sense of selflessness.
Can we take a second to internalize that, according to Wikia, Kenny was being selfless because he had gotten rid of two burdens by handing them out to Wellington?
Well, killing someone in order to stop a murder is something, but repeatedly bashing somebody else's face until you can't recognize them anymore is a whole different story.
Monsters is the wrong word here. Kenny is and always was written more as a person. But he never reacted well to loss or even the threat of loss, and in the end, he was becoming unstable. Jane was the final straw for me. After everyone warning me about Kenny and my own doubts were building, he snapped, and without giving her a chance to explain herself, tried to kill Jane. Uh-uh. I'm not going to stand around and let somebody be murdered, even if she did get AJ killed. By then, I had known Jane well enough that even if the baby died, it wasn't out of negligence on her part. So, I shot Kenny. He wasn't a monster but he was dangerous and letting him kill Jane was as good as me putting the knife in her heart myself. And I was not at all prepared to accept this.
Keep in mind too, that I am willing to accept killing and such for reasons and up until then had done so many times. I was so outraged at Lilly's actions that I left her behind without hesitation, even if that may have not been the right thing to do. I also watched Carver die without any remorse because he was dangerous and killing him seemed like a relatively understandable action of self-protection. But Jane was not dangerous nor had she purposely harmed anyone since we met her, something I cannot say is true of Kenny.
Yep. But Clem trusted Kenny on everything aswell. Well, almost. Kenny almost did everything I would've done and such, And I'm writing on all these threads because I'm waitin' for Michonne Ep 1. Fuck, I want it so bad.
If you read the comics or even watch the show it's pretty clear that is not the message of TWD. Especially in more recent stuff with Alexandria, it is clear that Rick is gradually accepting that yes, your actions do matter. The people of Terminus were wrong. Negan was wrong. The Governor was wrong. There is a better way. Bad things happening to you do not justify evil acts. That's true for the real world and that is true for TWD world as well.
The story may be about evolution, but I don't think it is in the way that you interpret it. Your actions matter, and while I get needing to do things "in the moment" to survive - killing, stealing, not saving everyone, etc. - your overall actions do matter. You can either be a part of the human race or become something... less. Which is why every villain in TWD meets a horrible end - they make too many enemies, and while many heroes die too, our protagonists keep surviving because they stick together.
I mean you could say can you really blame anybody for their actions in the zombie apocalypse? That's what it all comes down to. Can we rea… morelly blame the Terminus people for becoming cannibals? After all they were taken captive and raped and what not for weeks by crazy cannibals. They were good people with good intentions who let in the wrong people and it changed them. Really the walking dead is a story about evolution. About how humans evolve during the apocalypse. About what you have to do to survive. Most people alive at the end of Season Two of the game have had to do something horrible or have most likely seen some horrible shit. Everyone is potentially dangerous. I just feel as if Kenny is unable or unwilling to draw the line between a good and a bad person. Aaron points out that Daryl for example is able to tell the difference between a good person and a bad person. At this point in Season Two I don't think that Kenny is g… [view original content]
I never said most mental health issues are caused by physical damage but after what happened with Carver it could have happened. Carlos did … moresay he doesn't know if there was damage to the brain until he wakes up. Point is, the brain damage is a theory anyway and im making the point that this could have been the reason for his violent outbursts
I hate people who blame Kenny only thing I hated Kenny on was the Ben situation and even THAT was understandable.
But Kenny is a good guy when I played the 2nd season I knew Jane was lying and I was confused of why Jane did what she did just to prove a freaking point.
But he loved Clem and AJ to be honest if I could change one thing I said in S1 it would be to have Kenny watch over Clem instead of Omid and Christa not saying they didn't look after Clem but Christa gets really annoying after Omid's death seeming to blame Clem.
I'm going to say that 90%-ish of Kenny's actions are justified and/or have reasoning behind them. That means to me that he isn't a monster, he's just a man who's gone through some traumatic stuff. Everyone Kenny's ever loved and or cared for has been killed, usually in front of his eyes, with a few exceptions. Two people still survive, Clem and AJ, and he sacrificed himself (determinately) so they can live in safety. Kenny can be many things, but he certainly isn't a monster
Lol dude i know nor never said he did get treatment for brain damage. Im saying its a theory that he may have got damage after Carver but it is never revealed
Lol dude i know nor never said he did get treatment for brain damage. Im saying its a theory that he may have got damage after Carver but it is never revealed
I've noticed this last couple of days that the Wikia glorifies Kenny and demonizes Lilly and Jane. You just have to go there and read their … morearticles.
Kenny is generally characterised by needing a sense of purpose or more specifically, protecting people, which Lee noticed in "Around Every Corner".
That is a nice, poetic way of justifying all of his actions, LOL. Also, apparently, Lee noticed Kenny's need of protecting people just a day after Kenny had tried to punch him.
The thought of losing AJ, which apparently robbed him of purpose yet again, caused him to flip out beyond words but he calmed down once more with the discovery of AJ's safety.
Yeah, he did calm down… after he had killed a young woman by stabbing her in the heart with a knife, all while the girl who he feels the need to protect was watching. Parenting ten out of ten.
The fact that Kenny was willing to be on his own, with nobody to protect, so t… [view original content]
It's funny how you say sarcastically how horrible Kenny is and yet what you're posting makes you no better than the horrible guy you are insulting in the first place lol. It's getting to the point now that i laugh at the haters saying the same shit about Kenny. Im kinda glad you all hate him, you all can't stop talking about the guy you hate and i think the only reason you all say negative things about him is to upset others that are pro Kenny. Telltale have really got you all under his skin lol
Kenny: The best character of all time.
He always sided with Lee no matter how bad the circumstances were. I didn't help kill Larry and in… more episode 3 he stood by my side watching me QTE my ass off while walkers pinned me down under a door.
He cares about everyone in his group. When bandits attacked the motel, Lily sneaked out, got on the balcony, and saved the whole group from the raid. And Kenny expressed his affection: "Screw her. Let her stay." when the group was escaping.
He deeply loves and cares for Clementine in his heart. He proved it by not coming with me to look for Clementine because I wasn't there for him when he wanted to smash the head of a girl's father (the only person she had left), when he wanted me to drop a kid to death just because he INDIRECTLY caused his family's death.
Of course it was Ben's fault. If only he hadn't made that deal with the bandits, they wouldn't had bothered coming to the motor inn and the gr… [view original content]
No we just hate Kenny. Funny how you're saying Telltale has got under our skin when you're getting all butthurt over Kenny's "haters" insulting him. People can say what they want, if you don't like that, then this forum isn't for you.
It's funny how you say sarcastically how horrible Kenny is and yet what you're posting makes you no better than the horrible guy you are ins… moreulting in the first place lol. It's getting to the point now that i laugh at the haters saying the same shit about Kenny. Im kinda glad you all hate him, you all can't stop talking about the guy you hate and i think the only reason you all say negative things about him is to upset others that are pro Kenny. Telltale have really got you all under his skin lol
To be honest, it's just shitty writing. Season 2 forces you into thinking that Kenny is shit and Jane is good.
No, Kenny isn't a monster and only gullible fools who don't understand his character think he is. Kenny is in fact the only one who reacts reasonably to the things that happen in season 2. When people die in season 2, nobody, not even the people who were supposedly closest to the person, really cares or reacts to their deaths. Kenny cares when Sarita dies and he makes his pain apparent. When Jane fucks Luke while he's supposed to be on watch, the only person who's even moderately pissed about this is Kenny. When Arvo tries to rob and kill the group even if you don't steal his medicine, the only one who wants to kill him because of it is Kenny.
Then Arvo leads the group across a lake of ice which gets Luke killed but again, nobody holds it against him, only Kenny does, and Kenny is quickly reprimanded for it because "he's clearly losing it." At this point the only conversation you have with anyone is "Kenny is losing it" and "Kenny can't be trusted anymore" even though that's hardly a sensible thing to think considering he just fixed a truck that he's willing to share with the entire group. But no, he's the villain now because he beat up Arvo the dindu nuffin.
And then Arvo shoots Clementine while stealing the truck and supplies with Bonnie and Mike.
Notice a pattern here? Everyone who's against Kenny turns out to be bad in the end.
I honestly don't know why I even bother typing shit like this. Kenny haters are too stubborn (lol) to listen to logic or reason when it comes to Kenny. They base their feelings on him entirely on how he treats you if you don't side with him in the meat locker, completely ignoring that he's one of your best friends in the game if you do side with him there. They completely ignore everything good that he does while only focusing on his negative qualities, using their own personal headcanon and interpretation of events as "proof" of why Kenny is a bad guy. They look at the bad things he does at face value and don't even try to understand why he does the things he does, and ignore overwhelming evidence that proves their opinions contrary, even things that actually happen in the games, as well as how they're actually written. There is literally no point in arguing with Kenny haters, because they care more about their own feelings about him than they do about actual facts or reality regarding him.
Kenny is the worst character of all time because he hurt my feelings
This is what every Kenny hater's "argument" boils down to.
The Wellington ending alone should be more than enough to disprove anything a Kenny hater has to say about him, but no, they still insist he's the worst character ever. Nevermind the fact that there are several characters, not just in the games but in The Walking Dead franchise in general, who have done worse, and more bad shit than Kenny has.
I'm going to say that 90%-ish of Kenny's actions are justified and/or have reasoning behind them. That means to me that he isn't a monster, … morehe's just a man who's gone through some traumatic stuff. Everyone Kenny's ever loved and or cared for has been killed, usually in front of his eyes, with a few exceptions. Two people still survive, Clem and AJ, and he sacrificed himself (determinately) so they can live in safety. Kenny can be many things, but he certainly isn't a monster
To be honest, it's just shitty writing. Season 2 forces you into thinking that Kenny is shit and Jane is good.
No, Kenny isn't a monster … moreand only gullible fools who don't understand his character think he is. Kenny is in fact the only one who reacts reasonably to the things that happen in season 2. When people die in season 2, nobody, not even the people who were supposedly closest to the person, really cares or reacts to their deaths. Kenny cares when Sarita dies and he makes his pain apparent. When Jane fucks Luke while he's supposed to be on watch, the only person who's even moderately pissed about this is Kenny. When Arvo tries to rob and kill the group even if you don't steal his medicine, the only one who wants to kill him because of it is Kenny.
Then Arvo leads the group across a lake of ice which gets Luke killed but again, nobody holds it against him, only Kenny does, and Kenny is quickly reprimanded for it because "he's clearl… [view original content]
So Kenny's reasonable when he just starts shooting up Carver's men without thinking up a proper plan? When he yells at Clementine for Sarita's death? When he refuses to listen to anyone when they suggest going to a place that they KNOW has baby formula and not even considering a compromise?
And of course my feelings for Kenny are based on he treats me. My feelings for anyone are based on how they treat me and how they treat my friends. If you do not agree with Kenny on Larry , he will leave you to fend for yourself with the door. He will hesitate when you ask him for help finding Clem after she's been KIDNAPPED by a psychotic maniac. He has no control over his temper in Season Two. If you don't agree with him about Clem , he admonishes you and tries to manipulate you into doing what HE wants. And some Kenny fans don't exactly try to see the good in Jane either. So don't act like it's purely people who think Kenny's a hotheaded jerk who are unreasonable.
To be honest, it's just shitty writing. Season 2 forces you into thinking that Kenny is shit and Jane is good.
No, Kenny isn't a monster … moreand only gullible fools who don't understand his character think he is. Kenny is in fact the only one who reacts reasonably to the things that happen in season 2. When people die in season 2, nobody, not even the people who were supposedly closest to the person, really cares or reacts to their deaths. Kenny cares when Sarita dies and he makes his pain apparent. When Jane fucks Luke while he's supposed to be on watch, the only person who's even moderately pissed about this is Kenny. When Arvo tries to rob and kill the group even if you don't steal his medicine, the only one who wants to kill him because of it is Kenny.
Then Arvo leads the group across a lake of ice which gets Luke killed but again, nobody holds it against him, only Kenny does, and Kenny is quickly reprimanded for it because "he's clearl… [view original content]
People would say that a lot of people died and everyone lost someone. Whilst this is true, you really felt it when Kenny's family got killed (well I did anyway). Infact I don't think i'd ever been more into a story of a video game from the point from where his son got bit, to his wife and son's death. This clearly had a big affect on him mentally and was a big part of the man he was after that.
He was definitely one of the best and most memorable fictional characters ever in my opinion. Hope he is back in season 3.
But i've seen you in other posts getting annoyed about people saying negative things about Jane or anything positive about Kenny so it's no different lol.
And nahh if i was so butthurt about it I wouldn't stay on these forums
No we just hate Kenny. Funny how you're saying Telltale has got under our skin when you're getting all butthurt over Kenny's "haters" insulting him. People can say what they want, if you don't like that, then this forum isn't for you.
I never said that actions don't matter. I was simply using the Terminus people as an example for the question in the thread. Kenny is on his way to becoming Carver, it is pretty clear he's losing everything he was. Maybe "evolution" wasn't the right word. I mean't more like how they change, adapt, and live in the new world. It is about how Rick changes as the apocalypse goes on. The point is that Rick has seen some horrible shit and has done some horrible shit, but he hasn't let that turn him into somebody like Negan. We know that Gareth probably wasn't a bad guy before being taken over by the bandits. After that he and his group changed or evolve negatively and turn into villains. This doesn't happen to everyone and that is exactly what I was trying to say. Just because you've been through bad shit does not mean you have free rein to be a murderer.
I don't really understand why your post is directed towards me as it really has nothing to do with my post. My post was mainly about how Kenny is too far gone. That he has become "something....less" as you say and his actions towards Mike, Arvo, etc were not justified. That's it. I mean I completely agree that the Terminus people were wrong, Negan was wrong and the Governor was wrong too.
If you read the comics or even watch the show it's pretty clear that is not the message of TWD. Especially in more recent stuff with Alexan… moredria, it is clear that Rick is gradually accepting that yes, your actions do matter. The people of Terminus were wrong. Negan was wrong. The Governor was wrong. There is a better way. Bad things happening to you do not justify evil acts. That's true for the real world and that is true for TWD world as well.
The story may be about evolution, but I don't think it is in the way that you interpret it. Your actions matter, and while I get needing to do things "in the moment" to survive - killing, stealing, not saving everyone, etc. - your overall actions do matter. You can either be a part of the human race or become something... less. Which is why every villain in TWD meets a horrible end - they make too many enemies, and while many heroes die too, our protagonists keep surviving because they stick together.
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I'm just being sarcastic :-)
...wow I totally did not get that!
Haha apologies, you know what Kenny fans can be like
Dan , most mental health issues aren't caused by physical brain damage , and anyways , if Kenny has brain damage he should probably be dead , since Carlos never said anything that implied he had treated Kenny for head injuries.
Yeah. Just wanted to try something new and see how that goes
I never said most mental health issues are caused by physical damage but after what happened with Carver it could have happened. Carlos did say he doesn't know if there was damage to the brain until he wakes up. Point is, the brain damage is a theory anyway and im making the point that this could have been the reason for his violent outbursts
"You know what Kenny? Go Fuck Yourself." - Lee's reply to Kenny at the end of Around Every Corner
Well, killing someone in order to stop a murder is something, but repeatedly bashing somebody else's face until you can't recognize them anymore is a whole different story.
Your Clem is really quick to take people as father figures, given that she only spent a week with Kenny during Season 2.
I am in tears right now—of laugh.
—Kenny about Molly.
I think so too. He was edging towards it, but I dont really think he understand that until the very end. When I shot him, he told my Clem she did the right thing.
I've noticed this last couple of days that the Wikia glorifies Kenny and demonizes Lilly and Jane. You just have to go there and read their articles.
That is a nice, poetic way of justifying all of his actions, LOL. Also, apparently, Lee noticed Kenny's need of protecting people just a day after Kenny had tried to punch him.
Yeah, he did calm down… after he had killed a young woman by stabbing her in the heart with a knife, all while the girl who he feels the need to protect was watching. Parenting ten out of ten.
Can we take a second to internalize that, according to Wikia, Kenny was being selfless because he had gotten rid of two burdens by handing them out to Wellington?
I know right
I'm talking about those who chose to shoot him after he killed Jane.
Oh, then I agree. No point on letting him kill Jane and killing him afterwards.
Monsters is the wrong word here. Kenny is and always was written more as a person. But he never reacted well to loss or even the threat of loss, and in the end, he was becoming unstable. Jane was the final straw for me. After everyone warning me about Kenny and my own doubts were building, he snapped, and without giving her a chance to explain herself, tried to kill Jane. Uh-uh. I'm not going to stand around and let somebody be murdered, even if she did get AJ killed. By then, I had known Jane well enough that even if the baby died, it wasn't out of negligence on her part. So, I shot Kenny. He wasn't a monster but he was dangerous and letting him kill Jane was as good as me putting the knife in her heart myself. And I was not at all prepared to accept this.
Keep in mind too, that I am willing to accept killing and such for reasons and up until then had done so many times. I was so outraged at Lilly's actions that I left her behind without hesitation, even if that may have not been the right thing to do. I also watched Carver die without any remorse because he was dangerous and killing him seemed like a relatively understandable action of self-protection. But Jane was not dangerous nor had she purposely harmed anyone since we met her, something I cannot say is true of Kenny.
Yep. But Clem trusted Kenny on everything aswell. Well, almost. Kenny almost did everything I would've done and such, And I'm writing on all these threads because I'm waitin' for Michonne Ep 1. Fuck, I want it so bad.
If you read the comics or even watch the show it's pretty clear that is not the message of TWD. Especially in more recent stuff with Alexandria, it is clear that Rick is gradually accepting that yes, your actions do matter. The people of Terminus were wrong. Negan was wrong. The Governor was wrong. There is a better way. Bad things happening to you do not justify evil acts. That's true for the real world and that is true for TWD world as well.
The story may be about evolution, but I don't think it is in the way that you interpret it. Your actions matter, and while I get needing to do things "in the moment" to survive - killing, stealing, not saving everyone, etc. - your overall actions do matter. You can either be a part of the human race or become something... less. Which is why every villain in TWD meets a horrible end - they make too many enemies, and while many heroes die too, our protagonists keep surviving because they stick together.
That was the highlight of my day.
Did we ever see or hear of Kenny receiving treatment for brain damage?
I hate people who blame Kenny only thing I hated Kenny on was the Ben situation and even THAT was understandable.
But Kenny is a good guy when I played the 2nd season I knew Jane was lying and I was confused of why Jane did what she did just to prove a freaking point.
But he loved Clem and AJ to be honest if I could change one thing I said in S1 it would be to have Kenny watch over Clem instead of Omid and Christa not saying they didn't look after Clem but Christa gets really annoying after Omid's death seeming to blame Clem.
I'm going to say that 90%-ish of Kenny's actions are justified and/or have reasoning behind them. That means to me that he isn't a monster, he's just a man who's gone through some traumatic stuff. Everyone Kenny's ever loved and or cared for has been killed, usually in front of his eyes, with a few exceptions. Two people still survive, Clem and AJ, and he sacrificed himself (determinately) so they can live in safety. Kenny can be many things, but he certainly isn't a monster
i think that was bad writing lol
Lol dude i know nor never said he did get treatment for brain damage. Im saying its a theory that he may have got damage after Carver but it is never revealed
But if he did get brain damage , how would he have lived without treatment?
Yeah, this seems not exactly unbiased.
Ditto. Just over too quickly, lol.
It's funny how you say sarcastically how horrible Kenny is and yet what you're posting makes you no better than the horrible guy you are insulting in the first place lol. It's getting to the point now that i laugh at the haters saying the same shit about Kenny. Im kinda glad you all hate him, you all can't stop talking about the guy you hate and i think the only reason you all say negative things about him is to upset others that are pro Kenny. Telltale have really got you all under his skin lol
The same could be said about being quick to be all pally pally with Jane after only knowing her 3 or 4 days (before the 9 day skip at the end)
No we just hate Kenny. Funny how you're saying Telltale has got under our skin when you're getting all butthurt over Kenny's "haters" insulting him. People can say what they want, if you don't like that, then this forum isn't for you.
To be honest, it's just shitty writing. Season 2 forces you into thinking that Kenny is shit and Jane is good.
No, Kenny isn't a monster and only gullible fools who don't understand his character think he is. Kenny is in fact the only one who reacts reasonably to the things that happen in season 2. When people die in season 2, nobody, not even the people who were supposedly closest to the person, really cares or reacts to their deaths. Kenny cares when Sarita dies and he makes his pain apparent. When Jane fucks Luke while he's supposed to be on watch, the only person who's even moderately pissed about this is Kenny. When Arvo tries to rob and kill the group even if you don't steal his medicine, the only one who wants to kill him because of it is Kenny.
Then Arvo leads the group across a lake of ice which gets Luke killed but again, nobody holds it against him, only Kenny does, and Kenny is quickly reprimanded for it because "he's clearly losing it." At this point the only conversation you have with anyone is "Kenny is losing it" and "Kenny can't be trusted anymore" even though that's hardly a sensible thing to think considering he just fixed a truck that he's willing to share with the entire group. But no, he's the villain now because he beat up Arvo the dindu nuffin.
And then Arvo shoots Clementine while stealing the truck and supplies with Bonnie and Mike.
Notice a pattern here? Everyone who's against Kenny turns out to be bad in the end.
I honestly don't know why I even bother typing shit like this. Kenny haters are too stubborn (lol) to listen to logic or reason when it comes to Kenny. They base their feelings on him entirely on how he treats you if you don't side with him in the meat locker, completely ignoring that he's one of your best friends in the game if you do side with him there. They completely ignore everything good that he does while only focusing on his negative qualities, using their own personal headcanon and interpretation of events as "proof" of why Kenny is a bad guy. They look at the bad things he does at face value and don't even try to understand why he does the things he does, and ignore overwhelming evidence that proves their opinions contrary, even things that actually happen in the games, as well as how they're actually written. There is literally no point in arguing with Kenny haters, because they care more about their own feelings about him than they do about actual facts or reality regarding him.
This is what every Kenny hater's "argument" boils down to.
The Wellington ending alone should be more than enough to disprove anything a Kenny hater has to say about him, but no, they still insist he's the worst character ever. Nevermind the fact that there are several characters, not just in the games but in The Walking Dead franchise in general, who have done worse, and more bad shit than Kenny has.
5/5 got me laughing.
I hope you are talking about breathing, eating, sleeping and walking.
How did he sacrifice himself? Regardless of what Clem chooses, he would've never entered Wellington, because as they said, no room for adults.
Well it was her fault after all.
Nice attack on non Kenny fans. I guess Im too stubborn to get why he's so awesome.
This is so funny!
So Kenny's reasonable when he just starts shooting up Carver's men without thinking up a proper plan? When he yells at Clementine for Sarita's death? When he refuses to listen to anyone when they suggest going to a place that they KNOW has baby formula and not even considering a compromise?
And of course my feelings for Kenny are based on he treats me. My feelings for anyone are based on how they treat me and how they treat my friends. If you do not agree with Kenny on Larry , he will leave you to fend for yourself with the door. He will hesitate when you ask him for help finding Clem after she's been KIDNAPPED by a psychotic maniac. He has no control over his temper in Season Two. If you don't agree with him about Clem , he admonishes you and tries to manipulate you into doing what HE wants. And some Kenny fans don't exactly try to see the good in Jane either. So don't act like it's purely people who think Kenny's a hotheaded jerk who are unreasonable.
People would say that a lot of people died and everyone lost someone. Whilst this is true, you really felt it when Kenny's family got killed (well I did anyway). Infact I don't think i'd ever been more into a story of a video game from the point from where his son got bit, to his wife and son's death. This clearly had a big affect on him mentally and was a big part of the man he was after that.
He was definitely one of the best and most memorable fictional characters ever in my opinion. Hope he is back in season 3.
But i've seen you in other posts getting annoyed about people saying negative things about Jane or anything positive about Kenny so it's no different lol.
And nahh if i was so butthurt about it I wouldn't stay on these forums
I never said that actions don't matter. I was simply using the Terminus people as an example for the question in the thread. Kenny is on his way to becoming Carver, it is pretty clear he's losing everything he was. Maybe "evolution" wasn't the right word. I mean't more like how they change, adapt, and live in the new world. It is about how Rick changes as the apocalypse goes on. The point is that Rick has seen some horrible shit and has done some horrible shit, but he hasn't let that turn him into somebody like Negan. We know that Gareth probably wasn't a bad guy before being taken over by the bandits. After that he and his group changed or evolve negatively and turn into villains. This doesn't happen to everyone and that is exactly what I was trying to say. Just because you've been through bad shit does not mean you have free rein to be a murderer.
I don't really understand why your post is directed towards me as it really has nothing to do with my post. My post was mainly about how Kenny is too far gone. That he has become "something....less" as you say and his actions towards Mike, Arvo, etc were not justified. That's it. I mean I completely agree that the Terminus people were wrong, Negan was wrong and the Governor was wrong too.