Ya, and didn't buricko have nazi tattoos or something like that ( a Russian nazi, is there such a thing ) on his face? If people want to get… more totally super sick about shit, Clem being half black and his being a suggested white supremacist and having no problem unloading on the group... ooooweee that would be a hot topic.
That makes me want to go back to the very beginning with an open mind and not be so quick to dismiss what I thought were insignificant characters or dialog. Also, with other games like Batman, Borderlands, etc.. it was fun to explored different decisions but with all of the TWD's I stand solid behind every choice I made and will defend them to the death. I wonder why that is, hmmm... Maybe there's a few more layers to this story that need to be peeled back.
Maybe there's a few more layers to this story that need to be peeled back.
I've almost always had that stance in regards to many things, which is likely why certain things, like Justin, Carver, and Mariana, bug me a bit and why I feel others, namely Sarah, Mike, and Arvo himelf, were criminally underutilized.
That makes me want to go back to the very beginning with an open mind and not be so quick to dismiss what I thought were insignificant chara… morecters or dialog. Also, with other games like Batman, Borderlands, etc.. it was fun to explored different decisions but with all of the TWD's I stand solid behind every choice I made and will defend them to the death. I wonder why that is, hmmm... Maybe there's a few more layers to this story that need to be peeled back.
Maybe there's a few more layers to this story that need to be peeled back.
I've almost always had that stance in regards to many thi… morengs, which is likely why certain things, like Justin, Carver, and Mariana, bug me a bit and why I feel others, namely Sarah, Mike, and Arvo himelf, were criminally underutilized.
Well, quite frankly, because she, Tripp, and Badger are testiments to how superficial Ties that Bind's plot felt. Not to mention how, as someone who loves Jolene and Sarah for one general mindset, hates Justin and Carver for the opposite, and also hates Jane for leaning more on Carver's end despite technically being a little in line with Sarah's as well, I really didn't like how "safe" and "easy" she is for one thing.
You think Bonnie is a better person? :O
Hell no. Even if I think she's okay myself, Bonnie is still an adult who made several pyrrhic choices in her life that may or may not have hurt other people. Mariana was just some little girl more concerned with chocolate and memories(which I do like, admittedly) than hurting anyone.
Now you mention Justin...
I enjoyed that chapter of 400 days, chosing to kill off one of the 2 pieces of shit.
The con artist versus the child rapist.
I have chosen to kill the child rapist.
Well, quite frankly, because she, Tripp, and Badger are testiments to how superficial Ties that Bind's plot felt. Not to mention how, as som… moreeone who loves Jolene and Sarah for one general mindset, hates Justin and Carver for the opposite, and also hates Jane for leaning more on Carver's end despite technically being a little in line with Sarah's as well, I really didn't like how "safe" and "easy" she is for one thing.
You think Bonnie is a better person? :O
Hell no. Even if I think she's okay myself, Bonnie is still an adult who made several pyrrhic choices in her life that may or may not have hurt other people. Mariana was just some little girl more concerned with chocolate and memories(which I do like, admittedly) than hurting anyone.
Well, it was definitely less child rape and more of a ambiguous statutory affair. Still, he was a pretty neat if kinda naive guy outside of that, while Justin was just a plain piece a shit with little to no redeeming qualities.
Now you mention Justin...
I enjoyed that chapter of 400 days, chosing to kill off one of the 2 pieces of shit.
The con artist versus the child rapist.
I have chosen to kill the child rapist.
Just like Stephanie in 400 Days - what do you with a member of your group who intentionally and shamelessly steals supplies, endangering people and reducing the possibility of survival of the whole group? Clementine had her reason for doing that, sure, but David had his too. She was caught as a thief and kicking her out was the least hurtful thing they could've done.
Clem acted just plain stupid in this scene, it's her fault she's lost AJ. Bringing a hypersensitive, unpredictable toddler to a place in which you're supposed to be sneaky, quick and quiet? Way to go, Clementine, I've got no idea how did you survive using these tactics.
Nope, Justin was more level headed.
The child rapist was impulsive hotheaded. Without thinking logical he quickly had bad temper. No self control at all and not safe to have him around in a ZA.
We see the child rapist quickly died and taught Vince to distrust peoples..Justins goal was to find a community.
And we see Russel in the end mention about the child rapist he was glad he died because the girls were scared with him around, determinantly.
And hell it was child rape in the van, remember?
We can see Danny admitting he is a piece of shit, determinantly.
Well both were pieces of shit, just depending you rather have a pedo rapist around you, or a slimy con artist lol
I chose Justin, so I saw Vince in Season 2 giving Tavia a lecture about smoking.
So this is the best ending for Vince
Well, it was definitely less child rape and more of a ambiguous statutory affair. Still, he was a pretty neat if kinda naive guy outside of that, while Justin was just a plain piece a shit with little to no redeeming qualities.
The child rapist was impulsive hotheaded. Without thinking logical he quickly had bad temper. No self control at all and not safe to have him around in a ZA.
Impulsive, perhaps but hothead? Not from what I recall.
We see the child rapist quickly died and taught Vince to distrust peoples..Justins goal was to find a community.
Actually, Vince mentions that he taught him that a group should stick together(though now that you mention it, why doesn't Vince go in that scenario? Especially considering everyone else might go besides him). Meanwhile, Justin apparently left him on bad terms, with the implication that he only chose to go with Tavia for the chance to even.
And we see Russel in the end mention about the child rapist he was glad he died because the girls were scared with him around, determinantly.
More like he was concerned for their safety around him had he not already died before they showed up, given his record.
And hell it was child rape in the van, remember?
Justin was obviously exaggerating that, as candy and a van is a stereotype for child molesters.
We can see Danny admitting he is a piece of shit, determinantly.
Yeah, I heard someone else mention that and the closest I've ever heard was him saying something along the lines of "I've done some bad shit."
Well both were pieces of shit, just depending you rather have a pedo rapist around you, or a slimy con artist lol
Yeah, that was technically the point, though it was obviously meant to be ambiguous, though you could argue it's one sided no matter who you pick: Danny is at worst a noble demon who likes to joke around and will stand up for others, but he was apparently arrested on a sexual charge that only says wasn't him; Justin is at best a self-righteous rebel against the system who stole thousands of dollars from people and openly states he doesn't an once of guilt for doing that or lying on the stand. It's either a bro who isn't self-centered or a douchebag who couldn't rape anyone if he tried.
Nope, Justin was more level headed.
The child rapist was impulsive hotheaded. Without thinking logical he quickly had bad temper. No self … morecontrol at all and not safe to have him around in a ZA.
We see the child rapist quickly died and taught Vince to distrust peoples..Justins goal was to find a community.
And we see Russel in the end mention about the child rapist he was glad he died because the girls were scared with him around, determinantly.
And hell it was child rape in the van, remember?
We can see Danny admitting he is a piece of shit, determinantly.
Well both were pieces of shit, just depending you rather have a pedo rapist around you, or a slimy con artist lol
I chose Justin, so I saw Vince in Season 2 giving Tavia a lecture about smoking.
So this is the best ending for Vince
You used the term ' under utilized ' and I agree. All I can do is imagine what it's like in the writers room, how frustrating it would be to create this deep rooted story with multidimensional characters with interesting backstories and then have to whittle away at all of it to fit into a time restraint, social acceptance across the board, and not having too much down time between adrenaline rushes. I would pay money to be able to read all of the original rough drafts and story and character concepts. Especially to be able to know what connection characters have with one another. Like a hardback novel with the ENTIRE STORY. I'm burnt out on theories and guesses and want more than anything to know what the writers and creators invisioned.
The child rapist was impulsive hotheaded. Without thinking logical he quickly had bad temper. No self control at all and not safe to have hi… morem around in a ZA.
Impulsive, perhaps but hothead? Not from what I recall.
We see the child rapist quickly died and taught Vince to distrust peoples..Justins goal was to find a community.
Actually, Vince mentions that he taught him that a group should stick together(though now that you mention it, why doesn't Vince go in that scenario? Especially considering everyone else might go besides him). Meanwhile, Justin apparently left him on bad terms, with the implication that he only chose to go with Tavia for the chance to even.
And we see Russel in the end mention about the child rapist he was glad he died because the girls were scared with him around, determinantly.
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Nope. Danny was just denying and Vince can tell him like 'come on you were convicted'.
Like all child molesters will deny guilt and cry they are innocent. Wikia described Danny was a rapist so I guess I understood well in my game Danny is a lying piece of shit child rapist.
Justin didn't exaggerate about Danny for robbing a child's virginity, neither did Danny about Justin for being a con artist and financially robbing peoples..
Like all pedo's in real world deny what they are.
Danny annoyed me as hell, he was the one provoking Justin about his crimes and being a piece of shit himself and pulling the chains like an annoying kid.
Danny was hotheaded, he should have shut his damn mouth at some point to the police officer when the situation got more tense. Justin just tried to calm down the officer.
I noticed finally those who made the wrong bad choices, they end up in the camp. Those who made the right choice end up in Carver's camp. Finally the Carver's ending was a bad ending despite the good choices of the 400 days cast.
I guess there is no right choice in this chapter since you have to deal with one of the 2 criminals..
I guess it's the Telltale writer's opinion the best choice is to kill the pedofile..so Vince will join Carver's.
Russel refused to kill the couples, so he joined Carver's after you convince him he can find his granny.
Shell refused to kill Stephanie, so she joined Carver's.
Wyatt stayed in the car, so he doesn't have this much of trust issues since he was the one who had to leave Eddie behind after Nate attacked him. Or you have to convince him he can find Eddie.
And Bonnie will always join Carver's, whatever choices she made before since she is just an opportunist.
The child rapist was impulsive hotheaded. Without thinking logical he quickly had bad temper. No self control at all and not safe to have hi… morem around in a ZA.
Impulsive, perhaps but hothead? Not from what I recall.
We see the child rapist quickly died and taught Vince to distrust peoples..Justins goal was to find a community.
Actually, Vince mentions that he taught him that a group should stick together(though now that you mention it, why doesn't Vince go in that scenario? Especially considering everyone else might go besides him). Meanwhile, Justin apparently left him on bad terms, with the implication that he only chose to go with Tavia for the chance to even.
And we see Russel in the end mention about the child rapist he was glad he died because the girls were scared with him around, determinantly.
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Your arguement doesn't really make sense your saying she is selfish for putting her self in front of the group where in fact she is being selfless in the way she's took the risk to save aj and only at the age of the 13 she shows more compassion then even David showing how kind and warm clementine and people in this discussion are calling her a thief where any other character would have done the same to save there loved one and the only difference is clem actually did and your saying clementine has an attitude but your the forgetting the fact you were the one who controlled her so you give an evaluation of her personality
Well history learns people always changed into assholes you can't trust in wars.
So what about the zombie apocalypse?
Peoples were able to… more betray/sell off Jewish kids to the Nazi's in Word War 2 just for 30 dollars. We all know those kids ended up in gas chambers.
So what is shocking about kicking out a 13-year old thief who put other lives in danger in a zombie apocalypse?
I am sure in real life much worse stuff would have happened.
Nope. Danny was just denying and Vince can tell him like 'come on you were convicted'.
Actually, funny thing this: I totally forgot that the Wikia you mention has text interviews with voice actors and Danny's does asked what the deal with him was. The answer is...honestly, kinda dumb on his part. Hence me referring to him as naive.
Like all child molesters will deny guilt and cry they are innocent.
Which is technically what he doesn't do: he simply states it wasn't him and doesn't push the issue any further despite Justin's taunts.
Wikia described Danny was a rapist so I guess I understood well in my game Danny is a lying piece of shit child rapist.
You do realize that the wikia is free for anyone to edit, right? I know that's kinda hypocritical considering the interview I mentioned, but the information in at least a few of them is real from my understanding.
Justin didn't exaggerate about Danny for robbing a child's virginity, neither did Danny about Justin for being a con artist and financially robbing peoples..
Again, the van line seemed like a stereotypical joke, but at least his line about ruining the girl's life has some appropriateness.
Like all pedo's in real world deny what they are.
By the way, I'd just like to point out that while there is overlap, a pedophile and a child molester are technically different.
Danny annoyed me as hell, he was the one provoking Justin about his crimes and being a piece of shit himself and pulling the chains like an annoying kid.
Danny was hotheaded, he should have shut his damn mouth at some point to the police officer when the situation got more tense. Justin just tried to calm down the officer.
Mmm...okay, I can see most of that. When I hear hotheaded, I think of people with significantly short tempers and Danny just seemed more impulsive than that. Still, what ultimately defines him for me is the fact that he wanted to help break up the fight, called out Deputy Clyde for killing Crabtree and trying to think of a way to cover it up, and then stood up to him to either calm him down before someone else get's shot or at least die taking the hit for the other two.
I noticed finally those who made the wrong bad choices, they end up in the camp. Those who made the right choice end up in Carver's camp. Finally the Carver's ending was a bad ending despite the good choices of the 400 days cast.
I guess there is no right choice in this chapter since you have to deal with one of the 2 criminals..
I guess it's the Telltale writer's opinion the best choice is to kill the pedofile..so Vince will join Carver's.
Again, that's kinda what bothers about that and gives another reason to hate Justin: it's clearly a situation where you're choosing what you think is the lesser of two evils and yet, choosing the most dickish of the two is required because he mentioned wanting to look for a settlement before he left on apparently bad terms and Vince decides to go purely with the implication that he wants payback. Meanwhile, shooting Justin has Vince fondly allude to Danny teaching that a group should stick together and yet, he stays at the camp anyway even if everyone else decides to go with Tavia. Like, wouldn't it make more sense if he goes automatically if you shot Danny, but only goes when you shoot Justin instead if everyone else leaves? That's really counter-intuitive to alternate playthroughs because it takes away the ambiguity of that choice/situation by giving what is morally the worse of the two the contribution to the "best" ending.
Nope. Danny was just denying and Vince can tell him like 'come on you were convicted'.
Like all child molesters will deny guilt and cry the… morey are innocent. Wikia described Danny was a rapist so I guess I understood well in my game Danny is a lying piece of shit child rapist.
Justin didn't exaggerate about Danny for robbing a child's virginity, neither did Danny about Justin for being a con artist and financially robbing peoples..
Like all pedo's in real world deny what they are.
Danny annoyed me as hell, he was the one provoking Justin about his crimes and being a piece of shit himself and pulling the chains like an annoying kid.
Danny was hotheaded, he should have shut his damn mouth at some point to the police officer when the situation got more tense. Justin just tried to calm down the officer.
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Justin is the lesser. He admits what he did.
Danny is one piece of fake garbage since he denies something he did, ruining his victim's life much more.
The baddest experience a 15 year old rape victim can get is her damn rapist denying what he did to her.
Nope. Danny was just denying and Vince can tell him like 'come on you were convicted'.
Actually, funny thing this: I totally forgot … morethat the Wikia you mention has text interviews with voice actors and Danny's does asked what the deal with him was. The answer is...honestly, kinda dumb on his part. Hence me referring to him as naive.
Like all child molesters will deny guilt and cry they are innocent.
Which is technically what he doesn't do: he simply states it wasn't him and doesn't push the issue any further despite Justin's taunts.
Wikia described Danny was a rapist so I guess I understood well in my game Danny is a lying piece of shit child rapist.
You do realize that the wikia is free for anyone to edit, right? I know that's kinda hypocritical considering the interview I mentioned, but the information in at least a few of them is real from my understanding.
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Actuallly, he technically wasn't lying about him not being rapist. Here's the interview I was referencing.
Yeeeah...Danny really had a big heart, but Justin is definitely the smarter of the two.
Justin is the lesser. He admits what he did.
Danny is one piece of fake garbage since he denies something he did, ruining his victim's life… more much more.
The baddest experience a 15 year old rape victim can get is her damn rapist denying what he did to her.
If she was an adult, I'd probably be more inclined to agree, but she's still a kid who went through all the mess we saw. Her act wasn't malice, quite the opposite, she wanted to help AJ. David went against regulations when it came to Kate and Gabe at the gate, he could have given Clem another chance. If Mariana was there instad of Clem I can bet you he wouldn't have done that.
She deserved to be kicked out 100%. She deserved to keep AJ though, that was not fair really.
Also, I get the distinct feeling that AJ isn't actually alive.
If she was an adult, I'd probably be more inclined to agree, but she's still a kid who went through all the mess we saw. Her act wasn't mali… morece, quite the opposite, she wanted to help AJ. David went against regulations when it came to Kate and Gabe at the gate, he could have given Clem another chance. If Mariana was there instad of Clem I can bet you he wouldn't have done that.
Actuallly, he technically wasn't lying about him not being rapist. Here's the interview I was referencing.
Yeeeah...Danny really had a big heart, but Justin is definitely the smarter of the two.
For some reason Telltale decided when we chose Justin, it was the less worse case so Vince will join Carver's.
Or you gonna tell me Danny was innocent? He even admitted he did bad shit in the end lol
In a jail every criminal know about the crimes of others and will know who are the child molester, in this case Danny is.
You really want him innocent I got you.
Ok it's your game experience. In mine he is a guilty rapist fuck.
Okay, sorry about that.(Stupid picky link address) I should work now.
For some reason Telltale decided when we chose Justin, it was the less worse case so Vince will join Carver's.
Eh, it's still kind of a dumb gameplay moment. I mean, what's the connection beyond something you're told outside of his story when you've already made your choice there? At least (if I recall correctly) Russell and/or determinantly Wyatt and Shel can still be convinced to go depending on Tavia's dialogue, with Wyatt's decision regarding Eddie and Shel's decision regarding Stephanie tying in perfectly with why they (and Becca) would wanna go of their own free will.
Or you gonna tell me Danny was innocent? He even admitted he did bad shit in the end lol
In a jail every criminal know about the crimes of others and will know who are the child molester, in this case Danny is.
You really want him innocent I got you.
Ok it's your game experience. In mine he is a guilty rapist fuck.
Well, aside from him being a pretty noble guy despite being a prisoner, there's the fact I personally [try to] believe that who a person is is more important than what they might've done. Again, Justin, Carver, and Jane all showed themselves to be selfish, arrogant individuals with reprehensible methods of handling themselves and little to no redeeming qualities, so that's a generalized reason why they are my most hated characters. Also, sexual offense being considered especially hienous does come with the side affect of potentially getting people who actually are innocent arrested, so when he simply said it wasn't him and didn't seem to defensive about Justin's taunts, I believed him. And even if he did do it(which the interview reveals he technically did, but not the degree everyone assumed; I didn't know that at the time obviously, due to the game making it ambiguous), he had already shown himself to be a good friend to have on Vince's side and so he probably wouldn't have cared given their all convicted prisoners trying to survive in the end.
What link?
You showed a link to this same page.
For some reason Telltale decided when we chose Justin, it was the less worse case so Vin… morece will join Carver's.
Or you gonna tell me Danny was innocent? He even admitted he did bad shit in the end lol
In a jail every criminal know about the crimes of others and will know who are the child molester, in this case Danny is.
You really want him innocent I got you.
Ok it's your game experience. In mine he is a guilty rapist fuck.
Danny would have raped our daughter Clementine!!!
Lol she is kinda my daughter, I raised her in 2 seasons.
But yeah for males like Vince he would have been noble.
OMG, we have seen that creep Danny had the idea to shoot off one foot, and he tried to get the rifle from Vince, until Vince threatened both of them to back off.
Perhaps Danny would have shot Vince's fucking foot!
How noble this would have been lol.
What link?
You showed a link to this same page.
Okay, sorry about that.(Stupid picky link address) I should work now.
For s… moreome reason Telltale decided when we chose Justin, it was the less worse case so Vince will join Carver's.
Eh, it's still kind of a dumb gameplay moment. I mean, what's the connection beyond something you're told outside of his story when you've already made your choice there? At least (if I recall correctly) Russell and/or determinantly Wyatt and Shel can still be convinced to go depending on Tavia's dialogue, with Wyatt's decision regarding Eddie and Shel's decision regarding Stephanie tying in perfectly with why they (and Becca) would wanna go of their own free will.
Or you gonna tell me Danny was innocent? He even admitted he did bad shit in the end lol
In a jail every criminal know about the crimes of others and will know who are the child molester, in this case Danny is.
You reall… [view original content]
Lol she is kinda my daughter, I raised her in 2 seasons.
I doubt it, seeing how Clementine was 8 at the time and his girlfriend was [most likely] teenaged.
OMG, we have seen that creep Danny had the idea to shoot off one foot, and he tried to get the rifle from Vince, until Vince threatened both of them to back off.
Perhaps Danny would have shot Vince's fucking foot!
How noble this would have been lol.
Ooh...good point. He'd probably shoot the walkers or Justin instead, but still, keeping the gun for himself was the best thing Vince could do in that situation.
Danny would have raped our daughter Clementine!!!
Lol she is kinda my daughter, I raised her in 2 seasons.
But yeah for males like Vinc… moree he would have been noble.
OMG, we have seen that creep Danny had the idea to shoot off one foot, and he tried to get the rifle from Vince, until Vince threatened both of them to back off.
Perhaps Danny would have shot Vince's fucking foot!
How noble this would have been lol.
You understood wrong.
The rape victim wasn't his girlfriend. Lol lol
His girlfriend was pissed because he commited this crime and was convicted.
As Vince can tell him he should face this consequences after the shit he had done or just call his girlfriend.
And Justin telling him he is a piece of shit and ruined a young girl's life after Danny reminded him he wrecked peoples lives and stole someones dog's house lol. This aint no garbage talk lol, even it's from Justin.
It us obvious they all knew both Danny and Justin were pieces of shit.
Most of the real world pedo rapists have adult girlfriends.
Many even are decent married guys with a family..
Great written chapter about who would you chose to kill.
To kill the man who may rape your kid daughter or to kill the scammer thief who may backstab you and take your supplies.
Danny would have raped our daughter Clementine!!!
Lol she is kinda my daughter, I raised her in 2 seasons.
I doubt it, seeing how C… morelementine was 8 at the time and his girlfriend was [most likely] teenaged.
OMG, we have seen that creep Danny had the idea to shoot off one foot, and he tried to get the rifle from Vince, until Vince threatened both of them to back off.
Perhaps Danny would have shot Vince's fucking foot!
How noble this would have been lol.
Ooh...good point. He'd probably shoot the walkers or Justin instead, but still, keeping the gun for himself was the best thing Vince could do in that situation.
You understood wrong.
The rape victim wasn't his girlfriend. Lol lol
Pretty sure this is hard to misunderstand:
TWD Wiki: Danny was caught and arrested for raping a young girl. He later claimed that he didn’t rape the girl but that he did bad things, do you think Danny was telling the truth when he said he didn’t rape the girl?
Erik Braa:"The way I understood it...that was his girlfriend...and she happened to be under age...so he was busted on technicality. Although heck, I am not sure how bad he was supposed to be. hehehehe That's whay when he says "I am really missing my girlfriend.." he means the "Victim"
.
Most of the real world pedo rapists have adult girlfriends.
Many even are decent married guys with a family..
I suppose. I just don't know any and prefer to keep it that way
Great written chapter about who would you chose to kill.
To kill the man who may rape your kid daughter or to kill the scammer thief who may backstab you and take your supplies.
Agreed(Though I don't think Vince has a daughter ). Justin just got under my skin and I really wish he wasn't mandatory to get Vince to go, since I feel like that seriously dilutes the ambiguity and meaning behind a player's personal choice.
You understood wrong.
The rape victim wasn't his girlfriend. Lol lol
His girlfriend was pissed because he commited this crime and was conv… moreicted.
As Vince can tell him he should face this consequences after the shit he had done or just call his girlfriend.
And Justin telling him he is a piece of shit and ruined a young girl's life after Danny reminded him he wrecked peoples lives and stole someones dog's house lol. This aint no garbage talk lol, even it's from Justin.
It us obvious they all knew both Danny and Justin were pieces of shit.
Most of the real world pedo rapists have adult girlfriends.
Many even are decent married guys with a family..
Great written chapter about who would you chose to kill.
To kill the man who may rape your kid daughter or to kill the scammer thief who may backstab you and take your supplies.
Lol nope, he was the rapist.
You may sound naive since Vince can tell him to call his girlfriend..
If this was the case the jail would never ever let him call his underaged girlfriend and neither his rape victim lol.
He would have restraining with that girl on all cases!
So if she was his girlfriend, what is fucking wrong about his story? Justin would be a much worse case.
So what you are telling wouldn't make any sense at all in this story.
And Russel wouldn't tell he would be terrified with Danny around since Becca was there, if Danny wasn't the dirty rapist but just had a forbidden love.
And Vince wouldn't have the option to tell Danny he was convicted after Danny denied he raped the girl.
You really want to believe this, it's fine. Your game experience, just not mine.
He is still the pedo rapist lol.
And nope Vince has no daughter, but he still can meet a group of other survivors with female children wich Danny can rape.
They were lucky this rapist Danny died very quickly.
And Justin quickly ditched Vince, so both of the men were worthless cases.
Danny was a bad choice with his stupidity in the bus.
That officer nearly killed them all because he couldn't shut his mouth.
I rather go with Justin who used his brains better in tough situations.
And hell what a creep when Danny had the idea to kill someone of them and tried to grab my rifle.
His perfect idea, so I shot his foot since it was his idea lol.
You understood wrong.
The rape victim wasn't his girlfriend. Lol lol
Pretty sure this is hard to misunderstand:
TWD Wiki: D… moreanny was caught and arrested for raping a young girl. He later claimed that he didn’t rape the girl but that he did bad things, do you think Danny was telling the truth when he said he didn’t rape the girl?
Erik Braa:"The way I understood it...that was his girlfriend...and she happened to be under age...so he was busted on technicality. Although heck, I am not sure how bad he was supposed to be. hehehehe That's whay when he says "I am really missing my girlfriend.." he means the "Victim"
.
Most of the real world pedo rapists have adult girlfriends.
Many even are decent married guys with a family..
I suppose. I just don't know any and prefer to keep it that way
Great written chapter about who would you chose to kill.
To kill the man who may rape your kid daughter o… [view original content]
Let's think about this though, if you were innocent of sexual assault but everyone thought you did it, what would you do? Say you're innocent? Lament on the fact that your significant other now wants nothing to do with you? That's exactly what Danny did, and it was supposed to be ambiguous to you (or at least make you second guess) when you played Vince's chapter. Justin's character literally screams snake in the grass, from what he was convicted of to his calculating personality.
Who goes to the camp or not is not supposed to be a reflection on if your choice was the correct one. None of the choices in the chapters were morally defined. Look how the camp turned out, would you really say that Carver's was the better outcome? Being turned into a thug?
Lol nope, he was the rapist.
You may sound naive since Vince can tell him to call his girlfriend..
If this was the case the jail would nev… moreer ever let him call his underaged girlfriend and neither his rape victim lol.
He would have restraining with that girl on all cases!
So if she was his girlfriend, what is fucking wrong about his story? Justin would be a much worse case.
So what you are telling wouldn't make any sense at all in this story.
And Russel wouldn't tell he would be terrified with Danny around since Becca was there, if Danny wasn't the dirty rapist but just had a forbidden love.
And Vince wouldn't have the option to tell Danny he was convicted after Danny denied he raped the girl.
You really want to believe this, it's fine. Your game experience, just not mine.
He is still the pedo rapist lol.
And nope Vince has no daughter, but he still can meet a group of other survivors with female children wich Danny can rape.… [view original content]
It's kind of ironic that the people who were swearing that AJ was a lost cause actually ended up saving him. I seriously doubt that the choice to take AJ was a result of anything but spite by David but it actually saved the kid.
You guys do realize, I hope, that David's decision to keep AJ saved the kid's life. Like, there is no chance that he would have survived wit… moreh Clem out in the woods again when already sick, sleeping in some cold and damp cave and constantly threatened by walkers and other people. The reason AJ got sick in the first place was that he was exposed to wind and weather constantly since the day he was born. I'm surprised he even lived this long.
The New Frontier definitely made the right decision to kick out Clem if she used the medicine she had been explicitly told would not save the child, otherwise it's a harsh punishment, but still somewhat understandable. People need to realize that the New Frontier does not have an emotional connection to Clementine, like players of the game do. To them, she was just a bratty teenage thief with a child she could clearly not take care of anymore. Keeping AJ was the right call, even if it seems harsh. It's the reason AJ survived.
That's the thing to shock people, to make morally good choices and end up in the monsters hole..
I believe Danny was a rapist, you can believe what you want..
I remember the officer at the beginning of Season one, where he told Lee about a murderer who cried he was innocent...but the fucker had blood on his hands...in the comics the same character killed/beheaded Hershell Green's little daughters.
I believe it is similar to Danny's case trying to fool others including himself.
It makes sense, because the Telltale writers seem to wanna make us the 'good' desicions to follow Tavia. Peoples who didn't lose trust with other peoples because they went with the 'right' decisions.
In a jail you can be a thief, a thug or even a killer. But no one respects a child rapist..
Child rapists have tough times in jail with other inmates, so probably this the reason Danny denied his bad shit crimes, until the end where he admits he had done bad shit stuff hoping Vince would forgive him and chose not to kill him.
Let's think about this though, if you were innocent of sexual assault but everyone thought you did it, what would you do? Say you're innocen… moret? Lament on the fact that your significant other now wants nothing to do with you? That's exactly what Danny did, and it was supposed to be ambiguous to you (or at least make you second guess) when you played Vince's chapter. Justin's character literally screams snake in the grass, from what he was convicted of to his calculating personality.
Who goes to the camp or not is not supposed to be a reflection on if your choice was the correct one. None of the choices in the chapters were morally defined. Look how the camp turned out, would you really say that Carver's was the better outcome? Being turned into a thug?
Just like Stephanie in 400 Days - what do you with a member of your group who intentionally and shamelessly steals supplies, endangering peo… moreple and reducing the possibility of survival of the whole group? Clementine had her reason for doing that, sure, but David had his too. She was caught as a thief and kicking her out was the least hurtful thing they could've done.
Clem acted just plain stupid in this scene, it's her fault she's lost AJ. Bringing a hypersensitive, unpredictable toddler to a place in which you're supposed to be sneaky, quick and quiet? Way to go, Clementine, I've got no idea how did you survive using these tactics.
Lol nope, he was the rapist.
You may sound naive since Vince can tell him to call his girlfriend..
If this was the case the jail would never ever let him call his underaged girlfriend and neither his rape victim lol.
He would have restraining with that girl on all cases!
So if she was his girlfriend, what is fucking wrong about his story? Justin would be a much worse case.
So what you are telling wouldn't make any sense at all in this story.
Because it's statutory rape--having a [usually] sexual relationship with an individual under legal age of consent(which is generally 18 but can apparently be lower in some places). From what he and his voice actor say, his girlfriend was the "victim" because she was underaged, rather than because he forced himself on her. I don't know how Justin got wind of it aside from, as you allude to, word can spread fast about what each prisoner is for and Danny being in on statutory rape would obviously get people to give him the stink eye--from where they stand, he's either a rapist who goes after minors or, in his case, a pervert who manipulated a teenager into falling in love with him.
Thus, while Justin was likely just being self-righteous based on what little he heard about it, he was right about one thing: Danny getting arrested likely ruined that girl's life. Now, yes, if he and the girlfriend were truly in love, that's between them but the problem is that the law frowns upon such a relationship for understandable reasons. So, whether she consented to the relationship or not, someone saw them, put two and two together, had him arrested and eventually convicted, and now the girlfriend is likely both heartbroken and constantly stressed out due to the scandalous nature of the situation attracting a lot of attention to her.
And Russel wouldn't tell he would be terrified with Danny around since Becca was there, if Danny wasn't the dirty rapist but just had a forbidden love.
Russel likely doesn't know the nature of Danny's conviction beyond the sentence and even if there's a chance Danny or Vince told him what happened, that's probably even worse from his point of view. Remember that Russell hung out with two psychos during the first four/five months of the outbreak: Steve and Nate. Both of whom were dangerous, cliquey guys with jokey attitudes that 'befriended' him and made him go along with their crazy agendas that involved terrorizing others. After dealing with not one but two thieving murderers, the already snide graduate was understandably in no rush to trust anyone; Danny having a vaguely similar personality to those two obviously bothered him and thus he had no problem decrying him as just an asshole and being glad he died before Shel and Becca joined despite Vince looking back on him fondly.
And Vince wouldn't have the option to tell Danny he was convicted after Danny denied he raped the girl.
I always got the impression that they just met each other and heard about what each other with in for that very day. Of course Vince would be hesitant to take him at his word when that's what he got arrested for. Nonetheless, Vince mentions what he taught him in positive light if you shot Justin, so obviously he either learned the specifics about Danny's conviction and understood it or he simply didn't care because Danny helped him survive and presumably save some of the others until he died.
You really want to believe this, it's fine. Your game experience, just not mine.
He is still the pedo rapist lol.
And Justin quickly ditched Vince, so both of the men were worthless cases.
Danny was a bad choice with his stupidity in the bus.
That officer nearly killed them all because he couldn't shut his mouth.
I rather go with Justin who used his brains better in tough situations.
And hell what a creep when Danny had the idea to kill someone of them and tried to grab my rifle.
His perfect idea, so I shot his foot since it was his idea lol.
Yeah, that's ultimately the point of scenes like that in these games: to let you get to know the characters personally for a bit, have you learn something about them that conflicts with the vibe you got on your own, and then giving you a choice that involves having to trust/save them. I do realize now that that's another reason for you choose between them: friendliness vs. intelligence, since Danny openly cares about people but that also means he can impulsive and short-sighted while Justin is an unrepentant thief that was just smart enough to avoid getting caught for as long as he did.
Lol nope, he was the rapist.
You may sound naive since Vince can tell him to call his girlfriend..
If this was the case the jail would nev… moreer ever let him call his underaged girlfriend and neither his rape victim lol.
He would have restraining with that girl on all cases!
So if she was his girlfriend, what is fucking wrong about his story? Justin would be a much worse case.
So what you are telling wouldn't make any sense at all in this story.
And Russel wouldn't tell he would be terrified with Danny around since Becca was there, if Danny wasn't the dirty rapist but just had a forbidden love.
And Vince wouldn't have the option to tell Danny he was convicted after Danny denied he raped the girl.
You really want to believe this, it's fine. Your game experience, just not mine.
He is still the pedo rapist lol.
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Justin's character literally screams snake in the grass, from what he was convicted of to his calculating personality.
I think that's the underlying reason why I hate him about as much as I do Carver and Jane despite(or even because of) being negligible in the grand scheme of things: like them, he's a self-righteous douchebag(or whatever dullard Jane would be called) who put himself before others, but unlike them, he's completely lacking in "cool" novelties or any superficial likable, sympathetic, or "redeeming" qualities for anyone to cling to. He's just a unrepentant scumbag and nothing more.
Look how the camp turned out, would you really say that Carver's was the better outcome? Being turned into a thug?
Which is funny, considering his cameo involved him saying he was gonna report Tavia so no one else would catch shit for her smoking against the rules.
Let's think about this though, if you were innocent of sexual assault but everyone thought you did it, what would you do? Say you're innocen… moret? Lament on the fact that your significant other now wants nothing to do with you? That's exactly what Danny did, and it was supposed to be ambiguous to you (or at least make you second guess) when you played Vince's chapter. Justin's character literally screams snake in the grass, from what he was convicted of to his calculating personality.
Who goes to the camp or not is not supposed to be a reflection on if your choice was the correct one. None of the choices in the chapters were morally defined. Look how the camp turned out, would you really say that Carver's was the better outcome? Being turned into a thug?
He raped the girl hun!
This is why Russel knew about this, because Vince told him!
Otherwise this Russel wouldn't tell you he would be terrified for Becca.
The victim was separated from his girlfriend lol.
Or you are very naive and would believe all convicted criminals in real world jails who are crying they are innocent lol.
He was probably loyal to Vince, but this doesn't mean he isn't a dirty child rapist.
Of course rapists can be loyal to friends, just not safe to be around kids!
The fact that Justin was some high class thief doesn't make Danny a much better person since he stole virginities from kids.
Lol nope, he was the rapist.
You may sound naive since Vince can tell him to call his girlfriend..
If this was the case the jail would… more never ever let him call his underaged girlfriend and neither his rape victim lol.
He would have restraining with that girl on all cases!
So if she was his girlfriend, what is fucking wrong about his story? Justin would be a much worse case.
So what you are telling wouldn't make any sense at all in this story.
Because it's statutory rape--having a [usually] sexual relationship with an individual under legal age of consent(which is generally 18 but can apparently be lower in some places). From what he and his voice actor say, his girlfriend was the "victim" because she was underaged, rather than because he forced himself on her. I don't know how Justin got wind of it aside from, as you allude to, word can spread fast about what each prisoner is for and Danny being in on statutory rape … [view original content]
The way you're reading the 400 Days endings is just wrong. There are no good or bad decisions for the most part, Telltale specifically makes their games this way.
That's the thing to shock people, to make morally good choices and end up in the monsters hole..
I believe Danny was a rapist, you can be… morelieve what you want..
I remember the officer at the beginning of Season one, where he told Lee about a murderer who cried he was innocent...but the fucker had blood on his hands...in the comics the same character killed/beheaded Hershell Green's little daughters.
I believe it is similar to Danny's case trying to fool others including himself.
It makes sense, because the Telltale writers seem to wanna make us the 'good' desicions to follow Tavia. Peoples who didn't lose trust with other peoples because they went with the 'right' decisions.
In a jail you can be a thief, a thug or even a killer. But no one respects a child rapist..
Child rapists have tough times in jail with other inmates, so probably this the reason Danny denied his bad shit crimes, until the end where he admits he had done bad shit stuff hoping Vince would forgive him and chose not to kill him.
I wouldve done the same thing in that situation obviously with a bit less risk in terms of knowing what i am actually doing on how to inject a child I.E using a clean needle but Its fair that she got kicked out as Clem doesnt really know that it could save him and there are much better uses for the antibiotics than 'wasting it' on someone whos already dead
I think she should have been punished some way for sure, However I don't think she should have been kicked out of the group. There should have been a middle ground somewhere.
"Clementine is the shitty character the writers need to advance the plot, but not the one the shitty plot deserves."
It astonishes me that characters within the confines of the world continue to act with no caution or common sense and just haphazardly wonder into an occupied section of a well guarded camp only 20 feet away from several trigger happy residents and a guy laying right next to a heavily protected medical cache for the vague hope that it will help an infant we as players have no fucking connection to whatsoever only to side-saddle some kind of sloppy tragic backstory for us to further feel sympathy toward without any real understanding of why she tried robbing from people... again.
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Oh, wow! I didn't really consider that! Which incidentally gives Kenny's own racist remarks a case of misplaced accuracy.
That makes me want to go back to the very beginning with an open mind and not be so quick to dismiss what I thought were insignificant characters or dialog. Also, with other games like Batman, Borderlands, etc.. it was fun to explored different decisions but with all of the TWD's I stand solid behind every choice I made and will defend them to the death. I wonder why that is, hmmm... Maybe there's a few more layers to this story that need to be peeled back.
I've almost always had that stance in regards to many things, which is likely why certain things, like Justin, Carver, and Mariana, bug me a bit and why I feel others, namely Sarah, Mike, and Arvo himelf, were criminally underutilized.
Why Mariana???
She is a sweet little girl lol.
You think Bonnie is a better person? :O
Well, quite frankly, because she, Tripp, and Badger are testiments to how superficial Ties that Bind's plot felt. Not to mention how, as someone who loves Jolene and Sarah for one general mindset, hates Justin and Carver for the opposite, and also hates Jane for leaning more on Carver's end despite technically being a little in line with Sarah's as well, I really didn't like how "safe" and "easy" she is for one thing.
Hell no. Even if I think she's okay myself, Bonnie is still an adult who made several pyrrhic choices in her life that may or may not have hurt other people. Mariana was just some little girl more concerned with chocolate and memories(which I do like, admittedly) than hurting anyone.
Now you mention Justin...
I enjoyed that chapter of 400 days, chosing to kill off one of the 2 pieces of shit.
The con artist versus the child rapist.
I have chosen to kill the child rapist.
Well, it was definitely less child rape and more of a ambiguous statutory affair. Still, he was a pretty neat if kinda naive guy outside of that, while Justin was just a plain piece a shit with little to no redeeming qualities.
Just like Stephanie in 400 Days - what do you with a member of your group who intentionally and shamelessly steals supplies, endangering people and reducing the possibility of survival of the whole group? Clementine had her reason for doing that, sure, but David had his too. She was caught as a thief and kicking her out was the least hurtful thing they could've done.
Clem acted just plain stupid in this scene, it's her fault she's lost AJ. Bringing a hypersensitive, unpredictable toddler to a place in which you're supposed to be sneaky, quick and quiet? Way to go, Clementine, I've got no idea how did you survive using these tactics.
Nope, Justin was more level headed.
The child rapist was impulsive hotheaded. Without thinking logical he quickly had bad temper. No self control at all and not safe to have him around in a ZA.
We see the child rapist quickly died and taught Vince to distrust peoples..Justins goal was to find a community.
And we see Russel in the end mention about the child rapist he was glad he died because the girls were scared with him around, determinantly.
And hell it was child rape in the van, remember?
We can see Danny admitting he is a piece of shit, determinantly.
Well both were pieces of shit, just depending you rather have a pedo rapist around you, or a slimy con artist lol
I chose Justin, so I saw Vince in Season 2 giving Tavia a lecture about smoking.
So this is the best ending for Vince
Impulsive, perhaps but hothead? Not from what I recall.
Actually, Vince mentions that he taught him that a group should stick together(though now that you mention it, why doesn't Vince go in that scenario? Especially considering everyone else might go besides him). Meanwhile, Justin apparently left him on bad terms, with the implication that he only chose to go with Tavia for the chance to even.
More like he was concerned for their safety around him had he not already died before they showed up, given his record.
Justin was obviously exaggerating that, as candy and a van is a stereotype for child molesters.
Yeah, I heard someone else mention that and the closest I've ever heard was him saying something along the lines of "I've done some bad shit."
Yeah, that was technically the point, though it was obviously meant to be ambiguous, though you could argue it's one sided no matter who you pick: Danny is at worst a noble demon who likes to joke around and will stand up for others, but he was apparently arrested on a sexual charge that only says wasn't him; Justin is at best a self-righteous rebel against the system who stole thousands of dollars from people and openly states he doesn't an once of guilt for doing that or lying on the stand. It's either a bro who isn't self-centered or a douchebag who couldn't rape anyone if he tried.
You used the term ' under utilized ' and I agree. All I can do is imagine what it's like in the writers room, how frustrating it would be to create this deep rooted story with multidimensional characters with interesting backstories and then have to whittle away at all of it to fit into a time restraint, social acceptance across the board, and not having too much down time between adrenaline rushes. I would pay money to be able to read all of the original rough drafts and story and character concepts. Especially to be able to know what connection characters have with one another. Like a hardback novel with the ENTIRE STORY. I'm burnt out on theories and guesses and want more than anything to know what the writers and creators invisioned.
Nope. Danny was just denying and Vince can tell him like 'come on you were convicted'.
Like all child molesters will deny guilt and cry they are innocent. Wikia described Danny was a rapist so I guess I understood well in my game Danny is a lying piece of shit child rapist.
Justin didn't exaggerate about Danny for robbing a child's virginity, neither did Danny about Justin for being a con artist and financially robbing peoples..
Like all pedo's in real world deny what they are.
Danny annoyed me as hell, he was the one provoking Justin about his crimes and being a piece of shit himself and pulling the chains like an annoying kid.
Danny was hotheaded, he should have shut his damn mouth at some point to the police officer when the situation got more tense. Justin just tried to calm down the officer.
I noticed finally those who made the wrong bad choices, they end up in the camp. Those who made the right choice end up in Carver's camp. Finally the Carver's ending was a bad ending despite the good choices of the 400 days cast.
I guess there is no right choice in this chapter since you have to deal with one of the 2 criminals..
I guess it's the Telltale writer's opinion the best choice is to kill the pedofile..so Vince will join Carver's.
Russel refused to kill the couples, so he joined Carver's after you convince him he can find his granny.
Shell refused to kill Stephanie, so she joined Carver's.
Wyatt stayed in the car, so he doesn't have this much of trust issues since he was the one who had to leave Eddie behind after Nate attacked him. Or you have to convince him he can find Eddie.
And Bonnie will always join Carver's, whatever choices she made before since she is just an opportunist.
She had the name of the antibiotic on a piece of paper. Did I miss the part where someone wrote it down for her? Was that even explained?
Your arguement doesn't really make sense your saying she is selfish for putting her self in front of the group where in fact she is being selfless in the way she's took the risk to save aj and only at the age of the 13 she shows more compassion then even David showing how kind and warm clementine and people in this discussion are calling her a thief where any other character would have done the same to save there loved one and the only difference is clem actually did and your saying clementine has an attitude but your the forgetting the fact you were the one who controlled her so you give an evaluation of her personality
Actually, funny thing this: I totally forgot that the Wikia you mention has text interviews with voice actors and Danny's does asked what the deal with him was. The answer is...honestly, kinda dumb on his part. Hence me referring to him as naive.
Which is technically what he doesn't do: he simply states it wasn't him and doesn't push the issue any further despite Justin's taunts.
You do realize that the wikia is free for anyone to edit, right? I know that's kinda hypocritical considering the interview I mentioned, but the information in at least a few of them is real from my understanding.
Again, the van line seemed like a stereotypical joke, but at least his line about ruining the girl's life has some appropriateness.
By the way, I'd just like to point out that while there is overlap, a pedophile and a child molester are technically different.
Mmm...okay, I can see most of that. When I hear hotheaded, I think of people with significantly short tempers and Danny just seemed more impulsive than that. Still, what ultimately defines him for me is the fact that he wanted to help break up the fight, called out Deputy Clyde for killing Crabtree and trying to think of a way to cover it up, and then stood up to him to either calm him down before someone else get's shot or at least die taking the hit for the other two.
Again, that's kinda what bothers about that and gives another reason to hate Justin: it's clearly a situation where you're choosing what you think is the lesser of two evils and yet, choosing the most dickish of the two is required because he mentioned wanting to look for a settlement before he left on apparently bad terms and Vince decides to go purely with the implication that he wants payback. Meanwhile, shooting Justin has Vince fondly allude to Danny teaching that a group should stick together and yet, he stays at the camp anyway even if everyone else decides to go with Tavia. Like, wouldn't it make more sense if he goes automatically if you shot Danny, but only goes when you shoot Justin instead if everyone else leaves? That's really counter-intuitive to alternate playthroughs because it takes away the ambiguity of that choice/situation by giving what is morally the worse of the two the contribution to the "best" ending.
Justin is the lesser. He admits what he did.
Danny is one piece of fake garbage since he denies something he did, ruining his victim's life much more.
The baddest experience a 15 year old rape victim can get is her damn rapist denying what he did to her.
Actuallly, he technically wasn't lying about him not being rapist. Here's the interview I was referencing.
Yeeeah...Danny really had a big heart, but Justin is definitely the smarter of the two.
If she was an adult, I'd probably be more inclined to agree, but she's still a kid who went through all the mess we saw. Her act wasn't malice, quite the opposite, she wanted to help AJ. David went against regulations when it came to Kate and Gabe at the gate, he could have given Clem another chance. If Mariana was there instad of Clem I can bet you he wouldn't have done that.
Not specifically but towards the end of Ep. 3 she does mention she still has some friends in the New Frontier, maybe it's one of them.
Likely not, despite his claim otherwise.
Yayyy a convicted child RAPIST with a big heart..
Weird logics..
Did you read the related question in the link? Cause unless you're specifically lambasting the statutory nature of it, he's not a rapist.
What link?
You showed a link to this same page.
For some reason Telltale decided when we chose Justin, it was the less worse case so Vince will join Carver's.
Or you gonna tell me Danny was innocent? He even admitted he did bad shit in the end lol
In a jail every criminal know about the crimes of others and will know who are the child molester, in this case Danny is.
You really want him innocent I got you.
Ok it's your game experience. In mine he is a guilty rapist fuck.
Okay, sorry about that.(Stupid picky link address) I should work now.
Eh, it's still kind of a dumb gameplay moment. I mean, what's the connection beyond something you're told outside of his story when you've already made your choice there? At least (if I recall correctly) Russell and/or determinantly Wyatt and Shel can still be convinced to go depending on Tavia's dialogue, with Wyatt's decision regarding Eddie and Shel's decision regarding Stephanie tying in perfectly with why they (and Becca) would wanna go of their own free will.
Well, aside from him being a pretty noble guy despite being a prisoner, there's the fact I personally [try to] believe that who a person is is more important than what they might've done. Again, Justin, Carver, and Jane all showed themselves to be selfish, arrogant individuals with reprehensible methods of handling themselves and little to no redeeming qualities, so that's a generalized reason why they are my most hated characters. Also, sexual offense being considered especially hienous does come with the side affect of potentially getting people who actually are innocent arrested, so when he simply said it wasn't him and didn't seem to defensive about Justin's taunts, I believed him. And even if he did do it(which the interview reveals he technically did, but not the degree everyone assumed; I didn't know that at the time obviously, due to the game making it ambiguous), he had already shown himself to be a good friend to have on Vince's side and so he probably wouldn't have cared given their all convicted prisoners trying to survive in the end.
Danny would have raped our daughter Clementine!!!
Lol she is kinda my daughter, I raised her in 2 seasons.
But yeah for males like Vince he would have been noble.
OMG, we have seen that creep Danny had the idea to shoot off one foot, and he tried to get the rifle from Vince, until Vince threatened both of them to back off.
Perhaps Danny would have shot Vince's fucking foot!
How noble this would have been lol.
Lol she is kinda my daughter, I raised her in 2 seasons.
I doubt it, seeing how Clementine was 8 at the time and his girlfriend was [most likely] teenaged.
Ooh...good point. He'd probably shoot the walkers or Justin instead, but still, keeping the gun for himself was the best thing Vince could do in that situation.
You understood wrong.
The rape victim wasn't his girlfriend. Lol lol
His girlfriend was pissed because he commited this crime and was convicted.
As Vince can tell him he should face this consequences after the shit he had done or just call his girlfriend.
And Justin telling him he is a piece of shit and ruined a young girl's life after Danny reminded him he wrecked peoples lives and stole someones dog's house lol. This aint no garbage talk lol, even it's from Justin.
It us obvious they all knew both Danny and Justin were pieces of shit.
Most of the real world pedo rapists have adult girlfriends.
Many even are decent married guys with a family..
Great written chapter about who would you chose to kill.
To kill the man who may rape your kid daughter or to kill the scammer thief who may backstab you and take your supplies.
Pretty sure this is hard to misunderstand:
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I suppose. I just don't know any and prefer to keep it that way
Agreed(Though I don't think Vince has a daughter
). Justin just got under my skin and I really wish he wasn't mandatory to get Vince to go, since I feel like that seriously dilutes the ambiguity and meaning behind a player's personal choice.
Lol nope, he was the rapist.
You may sound naive since Vince can tell him to call his girlfriend..
If this was the case the jail would never ever let him call his underaged girlfriend and neither his rape victim lol.
He would have restraining with that girl on all cases!
So if she was his girlfriend, what is fucking wrong about his story? Justin would be a much worse case.
So what you are telling wouldn't make any sense at all in this story.
And Russel wouldn't tell he would be terrified with Danny around since Becca was there, if Danny wasn't the dirty rapist but just had a forbidden love.
And Vince wouldn't have the option to tell Danny he was convicted after Danny denied he raped the girl.
You really want to believe this, it's fine. Your game experience, just not mine.
He is still the pedo rapist lol.
And nope Vince has no daughter, but he still can meet a group of other survivors with female children wich Danny can rape.
They were lucky this rapist Danny died very quickly.
And Justin quickly ditched Vince, so both of the men were worthless cases.
Danny was a bad choice with his stupidity in the bus.
That officer nearly killed them all because he couldn't shut his mouth.
I rather go with Justin who used his brains better in tough situations.
And hell what a creep when Danny had the idea to kill someone of them and tried to grab my rifle.
His perfect idea, so I shot his foot since it was his idea lol.
Let's think about this though, if you were innocent of sexual assault but everyone thought you did it, what would you do? Say you're innocent? Lament on the fact that your significant other now wants nothing to do with you? That's exactly what Danny did, and it was supposed to be ambiguous to you (or at least make you second guess) when you played Vince's chapter. Justin's character literally screams snake in the grass, from what he was convicted of to his calculating personality.
Who goes to the camp or not is not supposed to be a reflection on if your choice was the correct one. None of the choices in the chapters were morally defined. Look how the camp turned out, would you really say that Carver's was the better outcome? Being turned into a thug?
It's kind of ironic that the people who were swearing that AJ was a lost cause actually ended up saving him. I seriously doubt that the choice to take AJ was a result of anything but spite by David but it actually saved the kid.
That's the thing to shock people, to make morally good choices and end up in the monsters hole..
I believe Danny was a rapist, you can believe what you want..
I remember the officer at the beginning of Season one, where he told Lee about a murderer who cried he was innocent...but the fucker had blood on his hands...in the comics the same character killed/beheaded Hershell Green's little daughters.
I believe it is similar to Danny's case trying to fool others including himself.
It makes sense, because the Telltale writers seem to wanna make us the 'good' desicions to follow Tavia. Peoples who didn't lose trust with other peoples because they went with the 'right' decisions.
In a jail you can be a thief, a thug or even a killer. But no one respects a child rapist..
Child rapists have tough times in jail with other inmates, so probably this the reason Danny denied his bad shit crimes, until the end where he admits he had done bad shit stuff hoping Vince would forgive him and chose not to kill him.
Regarding the 400 days thing, we shoot the moronic leader that causes people to start acting up like this, but ofcourse thats not an option.
Because it's statutory rape--having a [usually] sexual relationship with an individual under legal age of consent(which is generally 18 but can apparently be lower in some places). From what he and his voice actor say, his girlfriend was the "victim" because she was underaged, rather than because he forced himself on her. I don't know how Justin got wind of it aside from, as you allude to, word can spread fast about what each prisoner is for and Danny being in on statutory rape would obviously get people to give him the stink eye--from where they stand, he's either a rapist who goes after minors or, in his case, a pervert who manipulated a teenager into falling in love with him.
Thus, while Justin was likely just being self-righteous based on what little he heard about it, he was right about one thing: Danny getting arrested likely ruined that girl's life. Now, yes, if he and the girlfriend were truly in love, that's between them but the problem is that the law frowns upon such a relationship for understandable reasons. So, whether she consented to the relationship or not, someone saw them, put two and two together, had him arrested and eventually convicted, and now the girlfriend is likely both heartbroken and constantly stressed out due to the scandalous nature of the situation attracting a lot of attention to her.
Russel likely doesn't know the nature of Danny's conviction beyond the sentence and even if there's a chance Danny or Vince told him what happened, that's probably even worse from his point of view. Remember that Russell hung out with two psychos during the first four/five months of the outbreak: Steve and Nate. Both of whom were dangerous, cliquey guys with jokey attitudes that 'befriended' him and made him go along with their crazy agendas that involved terrorizing others. After dealing with not one but two thieving murderers, the already snide graduate was understandably in no rush to trust anyone; Danny having a vaguely similar personality to those two obviously bothered him and thus he had no problem decrying him as just an asshole and being glad he died before Shel and Becca joined despite Vince looking back on him fondly.
I always got the impression that they just met each other and heard about what each other with in for that very day. Of course Vince would be hesitant to take him at his word when that's what he got arrested for. Nonetheless, Vince mentions what he taught him in positive light if you shot Justin, so obviously he either learned the specifics about Danny's conviction and understood it or he simply didn't care because Danny helped him survive and presumably save some of the others until he died.
Yeah, that's ultimately the point of scenes like that in these games: to let you get to know the characters personally for a bit, have you learn something about them that conflicts with the vibe you got on your own, and then giving you a choice that involves having to trust/save them. I do realize now that that's another reason for you choose between them: friendliness vs. intelligence, since Danny openly cares about people but that also means he can impulsive and short-sighted while Justin is an unrepentant thief that was just smart enough to avoid getting caught for as long as he did.
I think that's the underlying reason why I hate him about as much as I do Carver and Jane despite(or even because of) being negligible in the grand scheme of things: like them, he's a self-righteous douchebag(or whatever dullard Jane would be called) who put himself before others, but unlike them, he's completely lacking in "cool" novelties or any superficial likable, sympathetic, or "redeeming" qualities for anyone to cling to. He's just a unrepentant scumbag and nothing more.
Which is funny, considering his cameo involved him saying he was gonna report Tavia so no one else would catch shit for her smoking against the rules.
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He raped the girl hun!
This is why Russel knew about this, because Vince told him!
Otherwise this Russel wouldn't tell you he would be terrified for Becca.
The victim was separated from his girlfriend lol.
Or you are very naive and would believe all convicted criminals in real world jails who are crying they are innocent lol.
He was probably loyal to Vince, but this doesn't mean he isn't a dirty child rapist.
Of course rapists can be loyal to friends, just not safe to be around kids!
The fact that Justin was some high class thief doesn't make Danny a much better person since he stole virginities from kids.
The way you're reading the 400 Days endings is just wrong. There are no good or bad decisions for the most part, Telltale specifically makes their games this way.
I wouldve done the same thing in that situation obviously with a bit less risk in terms of knowing what i am actually doing on how to inject a child I.E using a clean needle but Its fair that she got kicked out as Clem doesnt really know that it could save him and there are much better uses for the antibiotics than 'wasting it' on someone whos already dead
I think she should have been punished some way for sure, However I don't think she should have been kicked out of the group. There should have been a middle ground somewhere.
"Clementine is the shitty character the writers need to advance the plot, but not the one the shitty plot deserves."
It astonishes me that characters within the confines of the world continue to act with no caution or common sense and just haphazardly wonder into an occupied section of a well guarded camp only 20 feet away from several trigger happy residents and a guy laying right next to a heavily protected medical cache for the vague hope that it will help an infant we as players have no fucking connection to whatsoever only to side-saddle some kind of sloppy tragic backstory for us to further feel sympathy toward without any real understanding of why she tried robbing from people... again.
Clem, get your stealth game up.