Comparing animals and humans isn't necessarily the best usage of support, for animals also engage in incest, cannibalism, pedophilia etc. To say it's alright because animals doing, would also be condoning the other things that animals do, that would otherwise be monstrous if a human ever did them.
All I am saying is that biologically, the humans' function is to procreate. This is simply stripping it down to science, the human body for the female and male were made for reproduction. If we were to not be sentient, and were less intelligent, then our only drive in life would be to reproduce. It is an interesting theory that you've proposed, but there is no proof behind it, only theory.
And how they perceive society is constructed from their environment; media, and influential people etc. People are trying to normalize homosexuality for social reasoning, if it were as an appeal to nature then one would have to say that all other sexual orientations are normal, including incest and pedophilia.
Damn Tinni. I'm not really sure what side of the fence I'm personally on here in regards to the overall issue, but those are some really solid points.
As I said before, it isn't a conscious decision, as though they wake up and decide to be gay, but it isn't something you are born with eithe… morer. I believe it is developed due to outside influences. I do like the analogy you've used, but I stand by my point.
Comparing animals and humans in this specific case isn't necessarily the best usage of support, for animals also engage in incest, cannibalism, pedophilia etc. To say it's alright simply because animals are doing it, would also be condoning the other things that animals do that would otherwise be monstrous if a human ever did them. By "less gender socialization", I mean that there weren't clear genders, or gender roles established during childhood, that the child did not get enough socialization with the opposite gender.
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Cause as far as I can tell, homosexuality has become largely a political issue.
One of the biggest demonstrations of that recently, was legalizing homosexual marriage in a couple of more states.
On NBC they showed a lot of lesbian couples getting married, but as they were relating that news report, the biggest vibe that I got from that news report, was one that was political.
Not factual.
Not biological.
But political.
So please explain to me, if it's not a political message that's being sent forth, than what kind of message is it?
Homosexuality isn't a political ideology, it's a biological fact.
Having a gay person in a game is no more political than having a black … moreperson in a game. You're welcome to attempt to show me it's completely different. But I can assure you, you won't be able to.
Do you really, honest to god, think that if an issue is argued about it should be ignored by the media 100%?
So, say if during the campaign for racial equality, there was a comic with a black protagonist. Would you openly oppose that, due to not wanting 'politics' in your comic book.
Whether you like it or not, gay people are a FACT of life. They 100% exist. And whether you like it or not, black people are a fact of life. They 100% exist.
Including gay characters isn't a political message.
It may not be something you're born with. But neither is being born straight. Both orientations are things that develop over time whether so… moremeone can control it or not. I don't think it's something that's exclusively influence by outside choices, if at all. Maybe both, inner and outer influences play a role in it in someway. idk. Babies aren't aware of orientations or liking boys or girls at the outset just like they aren't aware at what hand dexterity they are best at, at the outset. Subconsciously would probably be the word to describe how someone develops these things.
Never said it was alright because animals do it (I'm with you that cannibalism and pedophilia, are sickening), but it can't be considered abnormal either because either way, it occurs in nature. In us and other species. We have laws against cannibalism, pedophilia, etc., which is why we don't engage in those. We use laws to shape and stabilize our society and create moral… [view original content]
To be fair, there are just as many different psychology reports that say it isn't a learned behavior. There are theories on both sides. I personally don't think it's a learned behavior as is saying being straight is a learned behavior. These orientations are things that just happen, most likely subconsciously in my opinion. Environments and upbringings may sometimes influence our sexual orientations (but you could say the same for being straight) but not always.
Like I said before, I've done a crapton of "questionable" things as a child that society dictates that I should not have done because I'm a boy and it could "turn me gay", I've even had a guy say to my mom that I was going to "grow up to be gay" but of course I just shrugged that off (and why would you say this to a kid or his parent anyway). And I'm not gay, I can't will myself to be attracted to men just like I'm sure there are some gays and lesbians that can't will themselves to be attracted to the opposite sex.
I will admit, that guy saying that to your mom, sounded just downright cruel.
It's sounds like he was just being a jackass.
Since you stated your sexuality, I might as well state mine, for the record.
I know that might sound strange to do that, but I figure: "What the hell!?"
I'm a 100% heterosexual.
I love women!
In fact, I hope to be married somedayhave children.
I've never had a homosexual experience in my life.
Not once!
Nor do I ever want to.
When homosexual men have tried to hit on me, I tell them I'm straight, and ask them to cease-and-desist.
To be fair, there are just as many different psychology reports that say it isn't a learned behavior. There are theories on both sides. I pe… morersonally don't think it's a learned behavior as is saying being straight is a learned behavior. These orientations are things that just happen, most likely subconsciously in my opinion. Environments and upbringings may sometimes influence our sexual orientations (but you could say the same for being straight) but not always.
Like I said before, I've done a crapton of "questionable" things as a child that society dictates that I should not have done because I'm a boy and it could "turn me gay", I've even had a guy say to my mom that I was going to "grow up to be gay" but of course I just shrugged that off (and why would you say this to a kid or his parent anyway). And I'm not gay, I can't will myself to be attracted to men just like I'm sure there are some gays and lesbians that can't will themselves to be attracted to the opposite sex.
Everyone is entitled to their own views and opinions, politically, legally, and to some degree; morally.
You want others to respect your op… moreinions, don't you?
Respect is a two-way street.
In order to get it, you have to be willing to give it.
That's just a basic principle in life.
I will admit, that guy saying that to your mom, sounded just downright cruel.
It's sounds like he was just being a jackass.
Since you st… moreated your sexuality, I might as well state mine, for the record.
I know that might sound strange to do that, but I figure: "What the hell!?"
I'm a 100% heterosexual.
I love women!
In fact, I hope to be married somedayhave children.
I've never had a homosexual experience in my life.
Not once!
Nor do I ever want to.
When homosexual men have tried to hit on me, I tell them I'm straight, and ask them to cease-and-desist.
I hear you.
I'm really sick of being trashed, cause I personally do not support homosexuality.
I thought, under the 1st amendment, I was allowed to have my own opinion; and be allowed to state it, just like everyone else?
I guess not.
As far as I can tell; when it comes to homosexuals, it seems like there's only two types of opinions, the right one and the wrong one.
And if don't support their lifestyle, they immediately brand you as evil.
And they claim to be tolerant, open-minded people?
That type of behavior is not open-minded at all.
But rather, hypocritical.
I know their will be those who won't like my thoughts here.
Some might even be offended.
But here's the thing: All I've endeavored to do, is express my opinion, which my legal right under the 1st amendment, while trying to do so in a tactful, and respectful manner.
And yet I'm being trashed by others.
That offends me!
And I have every right to feel that way.
It's beginning to annoy me too. I see people getting angry, and saying it's racist/homophobic/ableist if some show/movie/game doesn't have e… morenough "representation". As though having this "representation" will make the show/movie/game better somehow. Nobody is obligated to "representation", if it bothers someone so much they should put the time and effort into making their own game.
I wouldn't mind, the more characters the better in my opinion, the more different the characters are, the better. I really don't mind a character just as long as they are likeable.
It has nothing to do with self-hate. People find it to be very psychologically distressing to be inhabiting a body that they feel doesn't match their self-identity. It's not hard to see why. I'd imagine that you'd feel pretty uncomfortable if you had to live the rest of your life as a woman.
If it is indeed self-hatred, than changing their sex; will not remove the reason for their self-hatred.
Changing how you look, or whatever,… more will not change who you are, nor what you are as a person.
That kind of change, takes place on the inside.
If someone doesn't like something about their personality, than that's what they need to endeavour to change.
Including LGBT or any minority characters in movies/games is a pretty tricky thing; you can get the minorities you're trying to represent pissed off because you've done a shit job, or you get the people who aren't part of that minority claiming that they're having the representation "shoved down their throat"
As a gay dude I'd love more representation in gaming, but they shouldn't just throw in token characters for the sake of it.
Well I know I woke up as a woman, after spending my whole life as a man; I'd be like: "What the fuck!?"
I'd be scared shitless.
Like: "What the hell happened to me?"
But regardless, a person should be happy, as whatever sex they were born as.
That's how nature works.
It has nothing to do with self-hate. People find it to be very psychologically distressing to be inhabiting a body that they feel doesn't ma… moretch their self-identity. It's not hard to see why. I'd imagine that you'd feel pretty uncomfortable if you had to live the rest of your life as a woman.
Well, to be fair to the OP, there already have been at least 2 members of the LGBT community. I say at least, because I always thought Doug might have had a thing for Lee. (Don't get me wrong, I think Doug was a great character, and actually chose him in my first playthrough. Was quite saddened by his demise.)
And, taking this from memory, there's already been a post or two about the LGBT community in TWD. Statistically they've been represented pretty fairly.
Well, to be fair to the OP, there already have been at least 2 members of the LGBT community. I say at least, because I always thought Doug … moremight have had a thing for Lee. (Don't get me wrong, I think Doug was a great character, and actually chose him in my first playthrough. Was quite saddened by his demise.)
And, taking this from memory, there's already been a post or two about the LGBT community in TWD. Statistically they've been represented pretty fairly.
Nature doesn't work the same way for everyone. There are people who, as soon as they come to know what gender is, identify themselves as being one gender, even when their physical body shows a different one. Expecting them to be "happy" as one gender when they firmly identify as another is callous and insensitive.
Well I know I woke up as a woman, after spending my whole life as a man; I'd be like: "What the fuck!?"
I'd be scared shitless.
Like: "Wha… moret the hell happened to me?"
But regardless, a person should be happy, as whatever sex they were born as.
That's how nature works.
It has nothing to do with self-hate. People find it to be very psychologically distressing to be inhabiting a body that they feel doesn't ma… moretch their self-identity. It's not hard to see why. I'd imagine that you'd feel pretty uncomfortable if you had to live the rest of your life as a woman.
I really don't see trying to figure out what a person believes their personal gender should be as having any relevance to horror, apocalypse, and harsh, gritty survival than we try to fabricate. Although...I suppose they could explore the idea that a preop(or someone who had thoughts towards switching genders) will have to accept that they can't be the gender they wanted.
What I liked about the whole Matthew-Walter thing was that it was vague. The relationship is likely to be beyond platonic, though it's still possible to have not been. Even if it weren't vague, the characters didn't go out of their way to be all "loud and proud" about it, like the people they met absolutely needed to know what their orientation was. Outright boldly stating such only becomes necessary when relevant, sexual or romantic interests or topics provoke or make pertinent that knowledge. The kind of interests and topics I believe to be straying too far, from the type of story Walking Dead intends to be, to be relevant.
Lee never says "hello, I'm black", nor does anyone else when they meet him or Christa. The only time racism is ever brought up is when Lee decides(sincerely or with intentional falsehood) to accuse Larry of treating him as less trustworthy because he's of a different ethnicity, or when Kenny cautiously asks if Lee's potential "background" includes being good at breaking and entering. Even in those instances, direct reference to Lee's skin color were dodgy at best.
Both instances held relevance to corresponding situations, and nobody spent any time dwelling on them more than was necessary, else the game becomes about something other than zombies, hard choices, apocalypse and survival. And that is how it should be.
Comparing animals and humans isn't necessarily the best usage of support, for animals also engage in incest, cannibalism, pedophilia etc. To… more say it's alright because animals doing, would also be condoning the other things that animals do, that would otherwise be monstrous if a human ever did them.
All I am saying is that biologically, the humans' function is to procreate. This is simply stripping it down to science, the human body for the female and male were made for reproduction. If we were to not be sentient, and were less intelligent, then our only drive in life would be to reproduce. It is an interesting theory that you've proposed, but there is no proof behind it, only theory.
And how they perceive society is constructed from their environment; media, and influential people etc. People are trying to normalize homosexuality for social reasoning, if it were as an appeal to nature then one would have to say that all other sex… [view original content]
I hear you loud and clear. Words cannot express how tired I am of being called an evil homophobic bigot for supporting traditional marriage. It certainly doesn't help that the majority of my peers are extremely progressive/liberal on the matter.
Even though I don't agree with their lifestyle, I'm all for tolerating it, because I have no say in how they choose to live their lives. The thing with toleration though, is it is a two way street. If I'm going to tolerate their lifestyle, they must also tolerate my right to disagree with their lifestyle. It's such a simple thing, but so many people don't understand this, don't want to understand this, or are completely misinterpreting what toleration means, for toleration is not synonymous with acceptance. The radicals of LGBT are convinced that anyone who disagrees with their lifestyle is a homophobe, or is somehow oppressing them by not being an "ally", and celebrating their alternative lifestyle. They seem to think that we must tolerate (aka accept and celebrate) them, but they have no obligation to tolerate our stance/opinion. It angers me down to my core, to see/experience them being such complete hypocrites.
It bothers me that you, nor I can express our opinion without being flagged, even if we are very respectful/polite in our posts. It really frustrates me, to feel like I'm being silenced because my opinion is old fashioned, and is of the minority. My patience with rude and intolerant people is running thin.
I hear you.
I'm really sick of being trashed, cause I personally do not support homosexuality.
I thought, under the 1st amendment, I was a… morellowed to have my own opinion; and be allowed to state it, just like everyone else?
I guess not.
As far as I can tell; when it comes to homosexuals, it seems like there's only two types of opinions, the right one and the wrong one.
And if don't support their lifestyle, they immediately brand you as evil.
And they claim to be tolerant, open-minded people?
That type of behavior is not open-minded at all.
But rather, hypocritical.
I know their will be those who won't like my thoughts here.
Some might even be offended.
But here's the thing: All I've endeavored to do, is express my opinion, which my legal right under the 1st amendment, while trying to do so in a tactful, and respectful manner.
And yet I'm being trashed by others.
That offends me!
And I have every right to feel that way.
What do you think about all this?
Perhaps you feel like it would be easy for you to "just adapt" to be of the opposite sex but a lot of people can't. And just because someone can theoretically adapt to something does not mean that we should expect them to when there are treatments available to help them.
Agreed. Telltale's always been pretty good with diversity in TWDG, but for a game that relies heavily on the concept of family and relationships, they don't really go out of their way to diversify those. Walter and Matthew were so damn subtle that few people even caught on they were together. I hope Season 3 has better LGBT+ representation.
I'm sorry, but uhm, I don't remember a gay couple in S2E2. Unless you are referring to season 1, then again I still don't have any clue. Can someone help me?
I'm sorry, but uhm, I don't remember a gay couple in S2E2. Unless you are referring to season 1, then again I still don't have any clue. Can someone help me?
Perhaps you feel like it would be easy for you to "just adapt" to be of the opposite sex but a lot of people can't. And just because someone… more can theoretically adapt to something does not mean that we should expect them to when there are treatments available to help them.
I assume you're talking about sexual reassignment surgery? Not every transgendered person opts for those. For some, hormone replacement therapy or simply living as the other sex without any chemical or surgical intervention can be adequate.
Surgeries in general are dangerous, desperate, and expensive. And it's not your call to make as to whether or not they're unnecessary. That's up to the person and their doctor. So far, at least, sexual reassignment surgery has been shown to work far better than trying to get people to adjust their gender identity, which has been known to lead to a variety of psychological problems and lead to an increased risk of suicide.
It can be seen as "playing pretend" either way. Either people pretend that their body is different or they pretend that their psychological identity is different.
I hear you loud and clear. Words cannot express how tired I am of being called an evil homophobic bigot for supporting traditional marriage.… more It certainly doesn't help that the majority of my peers are extremely progressive/liberal on the matter.
Even though I don't agree with their lifestyle, I'm all for tolerating it, because I have no say in how they choose to live their lives. The thing with toleration though, is it is a two way street. If I'm going to tolerate their lifestyle, they must also tolerate my right to disagree with their lifestyle. It's such a simple thing, but so many people don't understand this, don't want to understand this, or are completely misinterpreting what toleration means, for toleration is not synonymous with acceptance. The radicals of LGBT are convinced that anyone who disagrees with their lifestyle is a homophobe, or is somehow oppressing them by not being an "ally", and celebrating their alternative lifestyl… [view original content]
Yes, you have freedom of speech to say you don't support gay marriage. As long as you're not trying to ban gay marriage, fine. But people also have the freedom of speech to call you out on being a homophobic asshole. Seriously, it doesn't affect you're life in any way, you don't have to have a gay marriage, so why be against it? People should have the freedom to do as they want, within reason. I don't remember toleration and celebration being the same thing. No one is asking you to go join a gay pride march. Just don't try and gay marriage, and don't be nasty to gays, then no one gives a crap if you support or not. It is only if you act upon your homophobia that there is a problem
I hear you.
I'm really sick of being trashed, cause I personally do not support homosexuality.
I thought, under the 1st amendment, I was a… morellowed to have my own opinion; and be allowed to state it, just like everyone else?
I guess not.
As far as I can tell; when it comes to homosexuals, it seems like there's only two types of opinions, the right one and the wrong one.
And if don't support their lifestyle, they immediately brand you as evil.
And they claim to be tolerant, open-minded people?
That type of behavior is not open-minded at all.
But rather, hypocritical.
I know their will be those who won't like my thoughts here.
Some might even be offended.
But here's the thing: All I've endeavored to do, is express my opinion, which my legal right under the 1st amendment, while trying to do so in a tactful, and respectful manner.
And yet I'm being trashed by others.
That offends me!
And I have every right to feel that way.
What do you think about all this?
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Damn Tinni. I'm not really sure what side of the fence I'm personally on here in regards to the overall issue, but those are some really solid points.
Than what kind of message is it?
Cause as far as I can tell, homosexuality has become largely a political issue.
One of the biggest demonstrations of that recently, was legalizing homosexual marriage in a couple of more states.
On NBC they showed a lot of lesbian couples getting married, but as they were relating that news report, the biggest vibe that I got from that news report, was one that was political.
Not factual.
Not biological.
But political.
So please explain to me, if it's not a political message that's being sent forth, than what kind of message is it?
I don't care what sexuality are they as long as they are useful.
According to a psychology report I once read, it stated: homosexuality is a learned behavior.
To be fair, there are just as many different psychology reports that say it isn't a learned behavior. There are theories on both sides. I personally don't think it's a learned behavior as is saying being straight is a learned behavior. These orientations are things that just happen, most likely subconsciously in my opinion. Environments and upbringings may sometimes influence our sexual orientations (but you could say the same for being straight) but not always.
Like I said before, I've done a crapton of "questionable" things as a child that society dictates that I should not have done because I'm a boy and it could "turn me gay", I've even had a guy say to my mom that I was going to "grow up to be gay" but of course I just shrugged that off (and why would you say this to a kid or his parent anyway). And I'm not gay, I can't will myself to be attracted to men just like I'm sure there are some gays and lesbians that can't will themselves to be attracted to the opposite sex.
I will admit, that guy saying that to your mom, sounded just downright cruel.
It's sounds like he was just being a jackass.
Since you stated your sexuality, I might as well state mine, for the record.
I know that might sound strange to do that, but I figure: "What the hell!?"
I'm a 100% heterosexual.
I love women!
In fact, I hope to be married somedayhave children.
I've never had a homosexual experience in my life.
Not once!
Nor do I ever want to.
When homosexual men have tried to hit on me, I tell them I'm straight, and ask them to cease-and-desist.
Sorry, I should have wrote "Yeah, they were trolling."
people who get "offended" by gay people or anybody part of the LGBT can go fuck themselves.
Yeah, I didn't really think of it too much anyway, if at all. It literally just went in one ear and out the other.
I've had gay men hit on me too, and I just tell them I'm straight and don't swing that way, then we just usually go on with our day.
well there's walter and mathew xD
I hear you.
I'm really sick of being trashed, cause I personally do not support homosexuality.
I thought, under the 1st amendment, I was allowed to have my own opinion; and be allowed to state it, just like everyone else?
I guess not.
As far as I can tell; when it comes to homosexuals, it seems like there's only two types of opinions, the right one and the wrong one.
And if don't support their lifestyle, they immediately brand you as evil.
And they claim to be tolerant, open-minded people?
That type of behavior is not open-minded at all.
But rather, hypocritical.
I know their will be those who won't like my thoughts here.
Some might even be offended.
But here's the thing: All I've endeavored to do, is express my opinion, which my legal right under the 1st amendment, while trying to do so in a tactful, and respectful manner.
And yet I'm being trashed by others.
That offends me!
And I have every right to feel that way.
What do you think about all this?
Also Tara... out of these three, only she is alive.
I wouldn't mind, the more characters the better in my opinion, the more different the characters are, the better. I really don't mind a character just as long as they are likeable.
It has nothing to do with self-hate. People find it to be very psychologically distressing to be inhabiting a body that they feel doesn't match their self-identity. It's not hard to see why. I'd imagine that you'd feel pretty uncomfortable if you had to live the rest of your life as a woman.
Including LGBT or any minority characters in movies/games is a pretty tricky thing; you can get the minorities you're trying to represent pissed off because you've done a shit job, or you get the people who aren't part of that minority claiming that they're having the representation "shoved down their throat"
As a gay dude I'd love more representation in gaming, but they shouldn't just throw in token characters for the sake of it.
Well I know I woke up as a woman, after spending my whole life as a man; I'd be like: "What the fuck!?"
I'd be scared shitless.
Like: "What the hell happened to me?"
But regardless, a person should be happy, as whatever sex they were born as.
That's how nature works.
Why don't we have orcs and elves too? We miss some fantasy races in TWD. Oh and talking animals. Sam could talk bould he rather barked.
TOTALLY SERIOUS POST!
Well, to be fair to the OP, there already have been at least 2 members of the LGBT community. I say at least, because I always thought Doug might have had a thing for Lee. (Don't get me wrong, I think Doug was a great character, and actually chose him in my first playthrough. Was quite saddened by his demise.)
And, taking this from memory, there's already been a post or two about the LGBT community in TWD. Statistically they've been represented pretty fairly.
Doug wasn't gay if it is that what you try to say. He was just happy and sad at the same time, cause Lee saved him.
I'm not saying he was gay. I'm saying he MIGHT have liked Lee thanks to certain looks or things he said. This is just my thought.
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Nature doesn't work the same way for everyone. There are people who, as soon as they come to know what gender is, identify themselves as being one gender, even when their physical body shows a different one. Expecting them to be "happy" as one gender when they firmly identify as another is callous and insensitive.
Well, in that case, no problem. That's pretty much what I thought of his post initially.
Or you could just adapt ...
I really don't see trying to figure out what a person believes their personal gender should be as having any relevance to horror, apocalypse, and harsh, gritty survival than we try to fabricate. Although...I suppose they could explore the idea that a preop(or someone who had thoughts towards switching genders) will have to accept that they can't be the gender they wanted.
What I liked about the whole Matthew-Walter thing was that it was vague. The relationship is likely to be beyond platonic, though it's still possible to have not been. Even if it weren't vague, the characters didn't go out of their way to be all "loud and proud" about it, like the people they met absolutely needed to know what their orientation was. Outright boldly stating such only becomes necessary when relevant, sexual or romantic interests or topics provoke or make pertinent that knowledge. The kind of interests and topics I believe to be straying too far, from the type of story Walking Dead intends to be, to be relevant.
Lee never says "hello, I'm black", nor does anyone else when they meet him or Christa. The only time racism is ever brought up is when Lee decides(sincerely or with intentional falsehood) to accuse Larry of treating him as less trustworthy because he's of a different ethnicity, or when Kenny cautiously asks if Lee's potential "background" includes being good at breaking and entering. Even in those instances, direct reference to Lee's skin color were dodgy at best.
Both instances held relevance to corresponding situations, and nobody spent any time dwelling on them more than was necessary, else the game becomes about something other than zombies, hard choices, apocalypse and survival. And that is how it should be.
Thank you, you are too kind.:)
I hear you loud and clear. Words cannot express how tired I am of being called an evil homophobic bigot for supporting traditional marriage. It certainly doesn't help that the majority of my peers are extremely progressive/liberal on the matter.
Even though I don't agree with their lifestyle, I'm all for tolerating it, because I have no say in how they choose to live their lives. The thing with toleration though, is it is a two way street. If I'm going to tolerate their lifestyle, they must also tolerate my right to disagree with their lifestyle. It's such a simple thing, but so many people don't understand this, don't want to understand this, or are completely misinterpreting what toleration means, for toleration is not synonymous with acceptance. The radicals of LGBT are convinced that anyone who disagrees with their lifestyle is a homophobe, or is somehow oppressing them by not being an "ally", and celebrating their alternative lifestyle. They seem to think that we must tolerate (aka accept and celebrate) them, but they have no obligation to tolerate our stance/opinion. It angers me down to my core, to see/experience them being such complete hypocrites.
It bothers me that you, nor I can express our opinion without being flagged, even if we are very respectful/polite in our posts. It really frustrates me, to feel like I'm being silenced because my opinion is old fashioned, and is of the minority. My patience with rude and intolerant people is running thin.
Perhaps you feel like it would be easy for you to "just adapt" to be of the opposite sex but a lot of people can't. And just because someone can theoretically adapt to something does not mean that we should expect them to when there are treatments available to help them.
And I love you for loving it.
Molly and Jane would be a perfect couple.
Agreed. Telltale's always been pretty good with diversity in TWDG, but for a game that relies heavily on the concept of family and relationships, they don't really go out of their way to diversify those. Walter and Matthew were so damn subtle that few people even caught on they were together. I hope Season 3 has better LGBT+ representation.
I'm sorry, but uhm, I don't remember a gay couple in S2E2. Unless you are referring to season 1, then again I still don't have any clue. Can someone help me?
Walter and Mathew, they are implied to be in a relationship, but it's so subtle that most people would miss it.
Those treatments that you speak of are highly dangerous ,desperate ,unnecessary and freaking expensive .Just to play pretend.
I assume you're talking about sexual reassignment surgery? Not every transgendered person opts for those. For some, hormone replacement therapy or simply living as the other sex without any chemical or surgical intervention can be adequate.
Surgeries in general are dangerous, desperate, and expensive. And it's not your call to make as to whether or not they're unnecessary. That's up to the person and their doctor. So far, at least, sexual reassignment surgery has been shown to work far better than trying to get people to adjust their gender identity, which has been known to lead to a variety of psychological problems and lead to an increased risk of suicide.
It can be seen as "playing pretend" either way. Either people pretend that their body is different or they pretend that their psychological identity is different.
Does she die in the comics?
And if so, is that how she dies?
Exactly.
Homosexuals want us to respect them and their lifestyle, opinions, etc.
Then they need to be willing to respect ours.
Yes, you have freedom of speech to say you don't support gay marriage. As long as you're not trying to ban gay marriage, fine. But people also have the freedom of speech to call you out on being a homophobic asshole. Seriously, it doesn't affect you're life in any way, you don't have to have a gay marriage, so why be against it? People should have the freedom to do as they want, within reason. I don't remember toleration and celebration being the same thing. No one is asking you to go join a gay pride march. Just don't try and gay marriage, and don't be nasty to gays, then no one gives a crap if you support or not. It is only if you act upon your homophobia that there is a problem
Yeah but the ending sucked a little. I mean Inori - dead Shu - Blind
Yes. Walks straight into it's mouth. Last words: "Oh good. You do like me!"