Some maybe, yes your right, the same as people who have Jane profile pics is probable they dislike Kenny. I have Lee as mine obviously, that's because he was and always will be the main favourite of mine
It's just that when you have a profile pic of Kenny, you're most likely a big fan of him. If you're a big fan of him, it is probable that yo… moreu disliked Lilly and Arvo. If you disliked them, chances are you didn't care for them when they were grieving. I was assuming a lot. That doesn't mean at all that I dislike people with Kenny profile pics!
I'm sure that not all—nor most, for that matter—of Kenny fans were bad to those two. Although I dislike cataloging people as just a Kenng-lover, or Jane-hater, etc.
Yes we are? Bossman said that Jane should've helped Kenny not instgated a fight and BetterToSleep asked him if he did that to Arvo and Jane.
While the main topic is Jane you did not mentioned her. I'm sorry, my bad. I'm still interested: you judge Jane for not helping a grieving Kenny (that she dislikes for good reason) yet you you do the same for Arvo...
Im not even talking about Jane. Why bring her into it when you know this is going to cause an argument? Tell you what, let's start another argument, i'll go first...fuck Jane!
If Clem speaks to Jane saying "Jane don't" or back off whichever line it is, before Kenny charges against her into the window, Jane says "not gonna happen. It's time to put this crusty piece of shit out of his misery". Whether or not she had planned to kill him before or not, it was at that moment that it certainly seemed a threat of intent to kill him which was no better than when Kenny said "i'll kill you". Both were as bad as each other.
If I may ask, what makes you think that Jane's that obsessed with controlling Clem?
I don't think she wanted Kenny dead at all, if you ke… moreep her alive she will say that she didn't know Kenny would go as far as a murder attempt.
I personally think she decided to change her mind because she (as every other character of S2) pictures Clem as Kenny's bff that would never leave him behing under any circumstanses. Clem's reaction to her proposal may have also contributed.
I actually agree with you. I don't believe that jane planned to kill kenny before the fight started, I believe that as the fight escalated Jane became more emotional and angry and that combination usually blinds people from reason. I'm not saying that what she did wasn't a bad thing, what I'm saying is that she did not plan to kill Kenny to get Clem possession (which was what the comment I relied to alluded).
If Clem speaks to Jane saying "Jane don't" or back off whichever line it is, before Kenny charges against her into the window, Jane says "no… moret gonna happen. It's time to put this crusty piece of shit out of his misery". Whether or not she had planned to kill him before or not, it was at that moment that it certainly seemed a threat of intent to kill him which was no better than when Kenny said "i'll kill you". Both were as bad as each other.
Sociopaths can't feel remorse, guilt or shame. But he certainly showed all of those emotions when asking Clem to stay in Wellington. His line being "you'll meet good people who don't have to look at you and feel ashamed at what they've put you through" is a clear indication that he has a conscience which sociopaths do not. I don't feel he was "becoming one" either but you are entitled to your opinion
In the scenario where Kenny lives, he should be racked with guilt and horrified with himself after he and Clem discover AJ was fine all along, but he never thinks twice about it
That's not true at all. He says "hey listen, i didn't want that to happen (killing her) either". Also my above comment shows not only did he regret what he did but for everything he ever put Clem through and that's probably going back to things that happened in Season 1 as well.
He even says he doesn't trust himself to keep them safe anymore. That right there was him realising he went too far.
Definitely, throughout season 2, Kenny just kept getting worse and worse. His anger was always flaring up, kept starting fights (verbal/phys… moreical) within the group, made the majority of the group worried about him and some people even left. Kenny was becoming a sociopath.
While what she did was risky, it still proves the point regardless. Before she can even explain herself, Kenny is coming at her with murderous intent as he doesn't want to hear anything, proving his sense of reasoning is gone. While yes, I believe Kenny wanted what was best entirely for AJ and Clem, the lengths he would go to are just too drastic. In the scenario where Kenny lives, he should be racked with guilt and horrified with himself after he and Clem discover AJ was fine all along, but he never thinks twice about it.
Kenny was just one more bad thing happening to him before he completely lost it in my mind after episode 4. He had become a danger to anyone at that point and I'm glad he was dealt with.
Yes we are? Bossman said that Jane should've helped Kenny not instgated a fight and BetterToSleep asked him if he did that to Arvo and Jane
Actually BetterToSleep asked if he helped a grieving Arvo and Lilly, that was what i was replying to and that's when i joined in.
you judge Jane for not helping a grieving Kenny (that she dislikes for good reason) yet you you do the same for Arvo...
Worked a long shift today so forgive me here but what on Earth are you trying to say? I believe my reply all along was discussing Lilly and Arvo's grief for their losses and how i tried to help Lilly but i did not for Arvo for the reasons i said above. I was never discussing Jane at all. Or were you referrring to an earlier post or something?
Yes we are? Bossman said that Jane should've helped Kenny not instgated a fight and BetterToSleep asked him if he did that to Arvo and Jane.… more
While the main topic is Jane you did not mentioned her. I'm sorry, my bad. I'm still interested: you judge Jane for not helping a grieving Kenny (that she dislikes for good reason) yet you you do the same for Arvo...
I think, it was a really good plan,from Jane. But, it did cost allot of work, she should have just put a knife in Kenny's back when he wasnt paying attention or something like that.
For someone who hates the way Kenny tries to kill Jane, this sure is rich coming from you saying she should have put a knife in his back. It's like you are saying it's ok for her to kill him but not if it's Kenny killing her? I apologise if i have took this the wrong way but it seems that way
I think, it was a really good plan,from Jane.
But, it did cost allot of work, she should have just put a knife in Kenny's back when he wasnt paying attention or something like that.
I'm referring to previous discussions we had. And yes I meant Lilly when I said Jane, the main topic and the origin of this discussion is about Jane and yes you did not mentioned her in your post and I apologised for thinking that you did. Honestely, I probably didn't read your post twice when I posted that reply.
Yet I'm still intrigued, "you judge Jane (in previous discussions) for not helping a grieving Kenny (that she dislikes for good reason) yet you you do the same for Arvo."
Yes we are? Bossman said that Jane should've helped Kenny not instgated a fight and BetterToSleep asked him if he did that to Arvo and Jane
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Actually BetterToSleep asked if he helped a grieving Arvo and Lilly, that was what i was replying to and that's when i joined in.
you judge Jane for not helping a grieving Kenny (that she dislikes for good reason) yet you you do the same for Arvo...
Worked a long shift today so forgive me here but what on Earth are you trying to say? I believe my reply all along was discussing Lilly and Arvo's grief for their losses and how i tried to help Lilly but i did not for Arvo for the reasons i said above. I was never discussing Jane at all. Or were you referrring to an earlier post or something?
Some maybe, yes your right, the same as people who have Jane profile pics is probable they dislike Kenny. I have Lee as mine obviously, that's because he was and always will be the main favourite of mine
You mean provoking a man that through two entire series has shown himself to be a jackass who was so pleasant to be around his wife chose to… more take her own life. A man who was so foolish as to aggravate a situation and get people killed at the ski lodge. A man who thought it was a good idea to beat the crap out of Arvo and then act indignant when Arvo strikes back. Oh and Arvo Potter looked what 98 pounds soaking wet...sure let's keep abusing him. The shit he put Lee through...do as I say or you are a traitor...like kill Larry. No Kenny was a jerk...hell I am sure as a walker he is a jerk to other walkers.
Clem is better by herself? She is a kid. I don't want to hear that "Clem is a badass" and shit. Let's be realistic. Plot armor is the reason she survived those nine days.
The real question is why were we able to shoot Kenny after their fight but not Jane? If anything she would've deserved it much more than he … moredid just for manipulating you.
But let's be honest, Lee was the only person (besides Christa and Omid) that cared about keeping her safe (well my Lee) and anyone else was just trying to relive having a child again. Clem was way better by herself and would survive much longer.
Yeah man! Lee's the dude of all dudes! Most people think Kenny is my favourite which is understandable as i discuss him a lot but nah Lee is number 1 followed by Kenny, Clem and Omid.
Did i specifically say "Jane doesn't help a grieving Kenny"? Because i don't recall? She actually doesn't help him with his grief though. She shows concern at the start of episode 5 and asks Clem/tells her she's the only one who can bring him back. In other words, help him from going over the edge.
So again sorry but what are you trying to say? I apologise if I appear stupid here but im still confused at what your point is about my previous discussions and of Jane and Arvo?
I'm referring to previous discussions we had. And yes I meant Lilly when I said Jane, the main topic and the origin of this discussion is ab… moreout Jane and yes you did not mentioned her in your post and I apologised for thinking that you did. Honestely, I probably didn't read your post twice when I posted that reply.
Yet I'm still intrigued, "you judge Jane (in previous discussions) for not helping a grieving Kenny (that she dislikes for good reason) yet you you do the same for Arvo."
Jane did not help a grieving Kenny because she tought he was the one who destryed the group and instead provoked him. You do not approve that.
Kenny does not help a grieving Arvo because Arvo tried to rob the group and instead beats him. You approve that (not saying you approve the beating, just saying that no one helps him (actually just makes him feel worse) and you don't care).
No, you didn't say it specifically, it was something like Jane shouldn't provoke a grieving and unstable Kenny.
But yeah since I'm not entirely sure it was stupid of me to reply to you in the first place making possibly false assumptions. I'm sorry for being this bitchy I just didn't think it through.
Did i specifically say "Jane doesn't help a grieving Kenny"? Because i don't recall? She actually doesn't help him with his grief though. Sh… moree shows concern at the start of episode 5 and asks Clem/tells her she's the only one who can bring him back. In other words, help him from going over the edge.
So again sorry but what are you trying to say? I apologise if I appear stupid here but im still confused at what your point is about my previous discussions and of Jane and Arvo?
Kenny does not help a grieving Arvo because Arvo tried to rob the group and instead beats him. You approve that (not saying you approve the beating, just saying that no one helps him (actually just makes him feel worse) and you don't care).
I've explained that part of me feels for his loss of losing his sister but in general no I don't care and that's not to sound like a prick to the character but it's because he is a character i had seen as a threat, a guy who decided to help his Russian friends rob the group, even if he didn't technically do anything, it was something I didn't like from him and then the shooting of Clem later (again despite what reason he had behind it). I certainly didn't like the beating up of him and i'm sorry if this sounds bad to you but i really wasn't bothered by it because again, his character doesn't mean a lot to me. I was more shocked at Kenny's actions. But as i said, the main reason is because i hadn't grown to care about the character. He was just there, I couldn't fully feel for his grief.
As for Jane, it's not so much that she didn't care about Kenny's grief that bothered me, it was more so what she did with the baby and causing the whole fight to start knowing that it would make him mad which was a despicable, uneeded thing to do regardless of the point she was making. She could have made it some other way like actually talking to Clem deeply about it.
Hope that makes some sense, sorry if it's not fully clear.
Jane did not help a grieving Kenny because she tought he was the one who destryed the group and instead provoked him. You do not approve tha… moret.
Kenny does not help a grieving Arvo because Arvo tried to rob the group and instead beats him. You approve that (not saying you approve the beating, just saying that no one helps him (actually just makes him feel worse) and you don't care).
No, you didn't say it specifically, it was something like Jane shouldn't provoke a grieving and unstable Kenny.
But yeah since I'm not entirely sure it was stupid of me to reply to you in the first place making possibly false assumptions. I'm sorry for being this bitchy I just didn't think it through.
I'm pissed that we have the opportunity for revenge on Kenny and not on Jane. Revenge on Jane feels earned. I still smile in satisfaction recalling the desperation in her voice as I dumped her ass on the side of the road. It's not as good as ventilating her would have been, but it's still pretty sweet.
The real question is why were we able to shoot Kenny after their fight but not Jane? If anything she would've deserved it much more than he … moredid just for manipulating you.
But let's be honest, Lee was the only person (besides Christa and Omid) that cared about keeping her safe (well my Lee) and anyone else was just trying to relive having a child again. Clem was way better by herself and would survive much longer.
Yes! You have to write this symbol ">" starting a paragraph, then leave a space, and then copy-paste what the other person said. Then add a new regular paragraph and elaborate your own comment. It is rather simple when you get accustomed to it. I'll advice you, don't forget to repeat the process for each new quoted paragraph if there's two or more without regular paragraphs in between.
Yes! You have to write this symbol ">" starting a paragraph, then leave a space, and then copy-paste what the other person said. Then add… more a new regular paragraph and elaborate your own comment. It is rather simple when you get accustomed to it. I'll advice you, don't forget to repeat the process for each new quoted paragraph if there's two or more without regular paragraphs in between.
You can quote this to start.
I'll give you an example, using "<" instead of ">". Then I'll use ">" normally. Note that you have to take the quotation marks off ">" for the magic to happen.
< I believe that waffles are better than pancakes.
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< I believe that waffles are better than pancakes.
Are you serious? Pancakes are so much better!
I believe that waffles are better than pancakes.
Are you serious? Pancakes are so much better!
Well i'm glad you see both sides to his character and not just the negative unlike a lot people on here.
How could I not see both sides? It's so obvious he cares about Clementine, and he's done a lot of good things. But while his heart is in the right place, his actions can, and most definitely will, get them all killed if he continues with his bullshit. Kenny is a complex character who never got a chance to shine because the writers spent too much time tearing him down and not enough time building him up, and that's a fault on their end. But it doesn't detract from how annoying he gets from time to time. If Kenny does return, I sincerely hope he's more focused on and has a chance to become a really awesome character. Because the only other thing they could do with Kenny if they don't fix him is to Omid him, and if they do that I will likely never touch anything Telltale ever makes again because it is beyond stupid to kill an important character for nothing but the shock value, with no emotion going into it at all.
Jane absolutely hated Kenny and for good reason
I actually think it wasn't for the reasons you think she hates him for but because o… moref the fact she felt he was the reason that Clementine wouldn't leave him and go with her which is most likely one of the reasons why she did what she did with the baby. I think in some strange way it could have even been jealousy. Feel free to disagree, it's partially what i think though
Kenny is an old stubborn piece of shit, but deep inside of him there is a good man
Well i'm glad you see both sides to his character and not just the negative unlike a lot people on here.
I'm just not waiting another season of his bullshit to find it
This may surprise you but i do agree. I hope we have closure on Kenny's character or if they somehow involve his character in Season 3, i hope he won't be the sole focus taking away screen time for other characters
Theres not a lot of realistic things in a zombie apocalypse.
Realistically populations would die off faster than they have been and lone survivors would gain a great chance at surviving as time passed. It's already been a year and a half or more for her with Lee and Christa, so if we want realistic then most the zombies have decomposed to a non threat level or they've been bashed in.
So yeah realistically Clem could survive much better by herself.
Clem is better by herself? She is a kid. I don't want to hear that "Clem is a badass" and shit. Let's be realistic. Plot armor is the reason she survived those nine days.
Granted I think Jane is a cool person but I'm not for that manipulation bs. If I was in Clem's shoes, like me literally, I would've shot her kneecaps and left her for the walkers. I think Clem is smart enough to realize that Kenny was going over the edge and we could all have had a convo about it.
It would be way better if we could've all just got along. But Kennys a brute when he doesn't trust ppl and Jane tried to manipulate me. So screw both of them.
I'm pissed that we have the opportunity for revenge on Kenny and not on Jane. Revenge on Jane feels earned. I still smile in satisfaction re… morecalling the desperation in her voice as I dumped her ass on the side of the road. It's not as good as ventilating her would have been, but it's still pretty sweet.
If you want to quote just highlight everything that you consider a quote and select the quote option in the panel above your comment. Its the second one from the right
That's why I said he was becoming one, not that he was one then. I'm not sure how you don't see how his actions were leading straight towards that. Throughout season 2 his mental state gets worse and his physical actions show for it in spades. While Arvo is with the group, Kenny will not stop hurting him, belittling him, and blaming him. Nothing you can say to Kenny will change his opinion or his actions toward Arvo and I firmly believe he would have ended up killing him had he not escaped.
Earlier with Carver, he mercilessly beats the man to death, he shows nothing while it's happening and nothing afterwards, regardless of the fact that Carver should have died, Kenny's actions throughout it are a clear indication that he is losing his humanity. And furthermore, after he loses his girl, he blames it entirely on Clem and despite anything you say, can not be reasoned with at all just like the Jane/Kenny fight. Instead of trying to talk to Jane, he jumps to conclusions and attacks her.
You're missing my point here. Kenny should have had a moment immediately after finding AJ where he went, "Oh crap, what have I done?". Instead, he tries to rationalize his actions even though he was the reason it became violent in the first place. That's great that he realizes it then but that just furthers my sentiment that he is becoming a sociopath. Good for him I guess for separating himself before he would have undoubtedly killed both of them but realizing you're a monster doesn't make you any less of one.
Kenny was becoming a sociopath.
Sociopaths can't feel remorse, guilt or shame. But he certainly showed all of those emotions when as… moreking Clem to stay in Wellington. His line being "you'll meet good people who don't have to look at you and feel ashamed at what they've put you through" is a clear indication that he has a conscience which sociopaths do not. I don't feel he was "becoming one" either but you are entitled to your opinion
In the scenario where Kenny lives, he should be racked with guilt and horrified with himself after he and Clem discover AJ was fine all along, but he never thinks twice about it
That's not true at all. He says "hey listen, i didn't want that to happen (killing her) either". Also my above comment shows not only did he regret what he did but for everything he ever put Clem through and that's probably going back to things that happened in Season 1 as well.
He even says he doesn't trust himself to keep them safe anymore. That right there was him realising he went too far.
No she couldn't, there are many dangers in that world. The living are more of a problem Then the dead. Also, What if she would have came across a horde the size of the one that attacked carver's place, who is going to have her back? But I do think the fact walkers aren't decomposing very unrealistic
Theres not a lot of realistic things in a zombie apocalypse.
Realistically populations would die off faster than they have been and lone … moresurvivors would gain a great chance at surviving as time passed. It's already been a year and a half or more for her with Lee and Christa, so if we want realistic then most the zombies have decomposed to a non threat level or they've been bashed in.
So yeah realistically Clem could survive much better by herself.
I think Kenny, was a very dangerous man. And he just needed to be stopped at all costs, after all the horrible things he has done.
In S1 he wanted a girl to get eaten alive by walkers, so he could get allot of supplies that really says, something about a person in my opinion.
Also he destroyed, so many lives already he would have continued doing that, if he was still alive.
Edit: And i forgot to add, the beatings he gave Arvo, made him even more of a monster in my book. And that was the moment i knew this guy, seriously has to be stopped at all cost.
I think, it was a really good plan,from Jane. But, it did cost allot of work, she should have just put a knife in Kenny's back when he wasnt… more paying attention or something like that.
For someone who hates the way Kenny tries to kill Jane, this sure is rich coming from you saying she should have put a knife in his back. It's like you are saying it's ok for her to kill him but not if it's Kenny killing her? I apologise if i have took this the wrong way but it seems that way
He said it after Jane dies and just after Clem finds AJ in the car. Clem can say "I thought Jane might have killed him" and he responds with… more "I was thinking the same thing Clem. It was why i was so fired up. She never wanted the baby around, she made that clear."
I think he meant that she made it clear by hiding the baby and saying he died, thinking that she was trying to get rid of him, when actually she was trying to prove a point to Clem.
Well my opinion of Jane can't be changed just as yours probably can't be changed about Kenny.
My opinion of Kenny isn't a negative one. I acknowledge that he's dangerous, aggressive, irrational, and not fit to take care of a kid because of the trauma he's gone through in the outbreak. His behaviour is warped because of the shit that's happened to him, which brings me back to my point of Clem not being able to fix him. But I still like him because of his intentions being good.
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The sad part is that Kenny realized how dangerous he is regardless of the outcome. If you tell Kenny that you don't want to go Wellington, he'll agree with you. Jane was in the wrong but in a sick way... she is right... but it doesn't change how stupid she was for putting a baby in danger. Not even Kenny would do something like that.
Even still, there were moments in which she could have changed topic, in which she could have not said anything, yet she continued.
… moreAfter the little argument about Wellington, Jane said "Whatever. I give up." and put her feet on the dashboard, where Kenny, unnecessarily, pushed her feet off of it. Which escalated the argument.
And so what? She responded to the shit he was giving her. You can't blame her for responding when being provoked, especially when he told her that she was nothing and that no one cared about her.
Kenny only meant to insult her, to get under her skin and hurt her feelings because she was angry.
"Only meant to insult her"? How the hell is that even a justification? His reasoning behind that was because she disagreed on going to Wellington, which she eventually gave up on disagreeing to.
Jane wanted to do the same, yet she was psychologically manipulating and purposefully hoped Kenny snapped
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You don't even need to do any of that, there's a quote button right above the comment box, just click it and it'll set it up for you by itself, same with all the other things, the buttons are right there.
You don't even need to do any of that, there's a quote button right above the comment box, just click it and it'll set it up for you by itself, same with all the other things, the buttons are right there.
Kenny has lost so much, just like clementine (Obviously many others too) Kenny made a promise to raise AJ "The right way" and he intended to keep this promise....now if it was Lee who was in the situation and you played as him you'd lose control over yourself emotionally just thinking about the fact that clementine is gone (Which she isnt) but in the end I'm sure many...maybe even all would kill the one who killed our beloved clementine. My point is in the end many think Jane was In the right but in reality she just reflected who SHE really was as a character. Just my thoughts on the concept.
The sad part is that Kenny realized how dangerous he is regardless of the outcome. If you tell Kenny that you don't want to go Wellington, h… moree'll agree with you. Jane was in the wrong but in a sick way... she is right... but it doesn't change how stupid she was for putting a baby in danger. Not even Kenny would do something like that.
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Some maybe, yes your right, the same as people who have Jane profile pics is probable they dislike Kenny. I have Lee as mine obviously, that's because he was and always will be the main favourite of mine
Yes we are? Bossman said that Jane should've helped Kenny not instgated a fight and BetterToSleep asked him if he did that to Arvo and Jane.
While the main topic is Jane you did not mentioned her. I'm sorry, my bad. I'm still interested: you judge Jane for not helping a grieving Kenny (that she dislikes for good reason) yet you you do the same for Arvo...
If Clem speaks to Jane saying "Jane don't" or back off whichever line it is, before Kenny charges against her into the window, Jane says "not gonna happen. It's time to put this crusty piece of shit out of his misery". Whether or not she had planned to kill him before or not, it was at that moment that it certainly seemed a threat of intent to kill him which was no better than when Kenny said "i'll kill you". Both were as bad as each other.
I actually agree with you. I don't believe that jane planned to kill kenny before the fight started, I believe that as the fight escalated Jane became more emotional and angry and that combination usually blinds people from reason. I'm not saying that what she did wasn't a bad thing, what I'm saying is that she did not plan to kill Kenny to get Clem possession (which was what the comment I relied to alluded).
Sociopaths can't feel remorse, guilt or shame. But he certainly showed all of those emotions when asking Clem to stay in Wellington. His line being "you'll meet good people who don't have to look at you and feel ashamed at what they've put you through" is a clear indication that he has a conscience which sociopaths do not. I don't feel he was "becoming one" either but you are entitled to your opinion
That's not true at all. He says "hey listen, i didn't want that to happen (killing her) either". Also my above comment shows not only did he regret what he did but for everything he ever put Clem through and that's probably going back to things that happened in Season 1 as well.
He even says he doesn't trust himself to keep them safe anymore. That right there was him realising he went too far.
Actually BetterToSleep asked if he helped a grieving Arvo and Lilly, that was what i was replying to and that's when i joined in.
Worked a long shift today so forgive me here but what on Earth are you trying to say? I believe my reply all along was discussing Lilly and Arvo's grief for their losses and how i tried to help Lilly but i did not for Arvo for the reasons i said above. I was never discussing Jane at all. Or were you referrring to an earlier post or something?
For someone who hates the way Kenny tries to kill Jane, this sure is rich coming from you saying she should have put a knife in his back. It's like you are saying it's ok for her to kill him but not if it's Kenny killing her? I apologise if i have took this the wrong way but it seems that way
I'm referring to previous discussions we had. And yes I meant Lilly when I said Jane, the main topic and the origin of this discussion is about Jane and yes you did not mentioned her in your post and I apologised for thinking that you did. Honestely, I probably didn't read your post twice when I posted that reply.
Yet I'm still intrigued, "you judge Jane (in previous discussions) for not helping a grieving Kenny (that she dislikes for good reason) yet you you do the same for Arvo."
Oh, I didn't know he was your favorite character!
My profile picture is one with a walker… because walkers are neat… I guess…
Kenny had every right to beat the shit out of Arvo. Have people forgotten that Arvo almost got the whole group killed!? God!
Clem is better by herself? She is a kid. I don't want to hear that "Clem is a badass" and shit. Let's be realistic. Plot armor is the reason she survived those nine days.
A little off topic does anybody know how to quote somebody's comment?
Yeah man! Lee's the dude of all dudes! Most people think Kenny is my favourite which is understandable as i discuss him a lot but nah Lee is number 1 followed by Kenny, Clem and Omid.
Did i specifically say "Jane doesn't help a grieving Kenny"? Because i don't recall? She actually doesn't help him with his grief though. She shows concern at the start of episode 5 and asks Clem/tells her she's the only one who can bring him back. In other words, help him from going over the edge.
So again sorry but what are you trying to say? I apologise if I appear stupid here but im still confused at what your point is about my previous discussions and of Jane and Arvo?
Jane did not help a grieving Kenny because she tought he was the one who destryed the group and instead provoked him. You do not approve that.
Kenny does not help a grieving Arvo because Arvo tried to rob the group and instead beats him. You approve that (not saying you approve the beating, just saying that no one helps him (actually just makes him feel worse) and you don't care).
No, you didn't say it specifically, it was something like Jane shouldn't provoke a grieving and unstable Kenny.
But yeah since I'm not entirely sure it was stupid of me to reply to you in the first place making possibly false assumptions. I'm sorry for being this bitchy I just didn't think it through.
I've explained that part of me feels for his loss of losing his sister but in general no I don't care and that's not to sound like a prick to the character but it's because he is a character i had seen as a threat, a guy who decided to help his Russian friends rob the group, even if he didn't technically do anything, it was something I didn't like from him and then the shooting of Clem later (again despite what reason he had behind it). I certainly didn't like the beating up of him and i'm sorry if this sounds bad to you but i really wasn't bothered by it because again, his character doesn't mean a lot to me. I was more shocked at Kenny's actions. But as i said, the main reason is because i hadn't grown to care about the character. He was just there, I couldn't fully feel for his grief.
As for Jane, it's not so much that she didn't care about Kenny's grief that bothered me, it was more so what she did with the baby and causing the whole fight to start knowing that it would make him mad which was a despicable, uneeded thing to do regardless of the point she was making. She could have made it some other way like actually talking to Clem deeply about it.
Hope that makes some sense, sorry if it's not fully clear.
That little asshole deserved a beating and worse. I'm just sorry I wasn't able to take my pound of flesh from the little bastard.
I'm pissed that we have the opportunity for revenge on Kenny and not on Jane. Revenge on Jane feels earned. I still smile in satisfaction recalling the desperation in her voice as I dumped her ass on the side of the road. It's not as good as ventilating her would have been, but it's still pretty sweet.
Yes! You have to write this symbol ">" starting a paragraph, then leave a space, and then copy-paste what the other person said. Then add a new regular paragraph and elaborate your own comment. It is rather simple when you get accustomed to it. I'll advice you, don't forget to repeat the process for each new quoted paragraph if there's two or more without regular paragraphs in between.
You can quote this to start.
">" paragraph
I'll give you an example, using "<" instead of ">". Then I'll use ">" normally. Note that you have to take the quotation marks off ">" for the magic to happen.
< I believe that waffles are better than pancakes.
Are you serious? Pancakes are so much better!
Are you serious? Pancakes are so much better!
< I believe that waffles are better than pancakes
Are you serious? Pancakes are so much better!
Now use the other symbol instead and it'll work.
>
Everyone, please don't mind our conversation.
< Everyone, Please don't mind our conversation >
Yeah don't mind us
How could I not see both sides? It's so obvious he cares about Clementine, and he's done a lot of good things. But while his heart is in the right place, his actions can, and most definitely will, get them all killed if he continues with his bullshit. Kenny is a complex character who never got a chance to shine because the writers spent too much time tearing him down and not enough time building him up, and that's a fault on their end. But it doesn't detract from how annoying he gets from time to time. If Kenny does return, I sincerely hope he's more focused on and has a chance to become a really awesome character. Because the only other thing they could do with Kenny if they don't fix him is to Omid him, and if they do that I will likely never touch anything Telltale ever makes again because it is beyond stupid to kill an important character for nothing but the shock value, with no emotion going into it at all.
Theres not a lot of realistic things in a zombie apocalypse.
Realistically populations would die off faster than they have been and lone survivors would gain a great chance at surviving as time passed. It's already been a year and a half or more for her with Lee and Christa, so if we want realistic then most the zombies have decomposed to a non threat level or they've been bashed in.
So yeah realistically Clem could survive much better by herself.
She didn't deserve to live after that moment.
Granted I think Jane is a cool person but I'm not for that manipulation bs. If I was in Clem's shoes, like me literally, I would've shot her kneecaps and left her for the walkers. I think Clem is smart enough to realize that Kenny was going over the edge and we could all have had a convo about it.
It would be way better if we could've all just got along. But Kennys a brute when he doesn't trust ppl and Jane tried to manipulate me. So screw both of them.
If you want to quote just highlight everything that you consider a quote and select the quote option in the panel above your comment. Its the second one from the right
That's why I said he was becoming one, not that he was one then. I'm not sure how you don't see how his actions were leading straight towards that. Throughout season 2 his mental state gets worse and his physical actions show for it in spades. While Arvo is with the group, Kenny will not stop hurting him, belittling him, and blaming him. Nothing you can say to Kenny will change his opinion or his actions toward Arvo and I firmly believe he would have ended up killing him had he not escaped.
Earlier with Carver, he mercilessly beats the man to death, he shows nothing while it's happening and nothing afterwards, regardless of the fact that Carver should have died, Kenny's actions throughout it are a clear indication that he is losing his humanity. And furthermore, after he loses his girl, he blames it entirely on Clem and despite anything you say, can not be reasoned with at all just like the Jane/Kenny fight. Instead of trying to talk to Jane, he jumps to conclusions and attacks her.
You're missing my point here. Kenny should have had a moment immediately after finding AJ where he went, "Oh crap, what have I done?". Instead, he tries to rationalize his actions even though he was the reason it became violent in the first place. That's great that he realizes it then but that just furthers my sentiment that he is becoming a sociopath. Good for him I guess for separating himself before he would have undoubtedly killed both of them but realizing you're a monster doesn't make you any less of one.
No she couldn't, there are many dangers in that world. The living are more of a problem Then the dead. Also, What if she would have came across a horde the size of the one that attacked carver's place, who is going to have her back? But I do think the fact walkers aren't decomposing very unrealistic
I think Kenny, was a very dangerous man. And he just needed to be stopped at all costs, after all the horrible things he has done.
In S1 he wanted a girl to get eaten alive by walkers, so he could get allot of supplies that really says, something about a person in my opinion.
Also he destroyed, so many lives already he would have continued doing that, if he was still alive.
Edit: And i forgot to add, the beatings he gave Arvo, made him even more of a monster in my book. And that was the moment i knew this guy, seriously has to be stopped at all cost.
Jane's idea to show how dangerous kenny is was dumb, I am glad that she died
That was a really long debate
lol
The sad part is that Kenny realized how dangerous he is regardless of the outcome. If you tell Kenny that you don't want to go Wellington, he'll agree with you. Jane was in the wrong but in a sick way... she is right... but it doesn't change how stupid she was for putting a baby in danger. Not even Kenny would do something like that.
I actually had a good read on this. Kenny would take things too far.
I fucking kek'd.
You don't even need to do any of that, there's a quote button right above the comment box, just click it and it'll set it up for you by itself, same with all the other things, the buttons are right there.
I already bettertosleep helped me
Kenny has lost so much, just like clementine (Obviously many others too) Kenny made a promise to raise AJ "The right way" and he intended to keep this promise....now if it was Lee who was in the situation and you played as him you'd lose control over yourself emotionally just thinking about the fact that clementine is gone (Which she isnt) but in the end I'm sure many...maybe even all would kill the one who killed our beloved clementine. My point is in the end many think Jane was In the right but in reality she just reflected who SHE really was as a character. Just my thoughts on the concept.