This is a great thing to think about and I think you are 100% right. Clem and Louis' personalities compliment each other real nicely. I also agree with Louis' potential character development and this might even stem from the whole Marlon situation. The knowledge of Marlon's action, his death (Marlon was, after all, his childhood friend). Abandoning the pinata for a moment, he's proven that he "gets shit done" when push comes to shove, even though he comes across as unreliable as hell. He'll always be a little goofy at heart (and I'd hate for him to lose that completely) but I would be excited to see him develop more in the following episodes.
I get the feeling Luis' character will undergo some serious progression. He'll grow up a bit, especially due to Clem's influence. So I guess… more that's why I think Clem and Luis are better for each other, because I can see how they'd help each other grow as people vs Violet and Clem who seem to be the same person. Like Luis will help Clem lighten up and see the good stuff in life and Clem will help Luis realize he needs to take some things seriously. But yeah the pinata zombie crap did irritate me, but again I think it will also show how his character will grow from goofball to something more. Possibly and hopefully.
Right off that bat Louis watches over Aj and teach’s him how to play piano, he later continues to be selfless and loyal by offering his food to Aj. He also was willing to be the one to ring the bell to attract the walkers. He’s funny and lighthearted which is something Clementine definitely needs considering all the shit she’s gone through. His only major flaw is he gets distracted to easily and sometimes doesn’t take situations seriously enough which was obvious with the “zombie pinata“ incident. Right off the bat Violet starts throwing shade at you and distances herself. If you go fishing she just acts all debby downer and kills the mood. Louis is the clear winner here IMO, he’s kind and loyal to you right away despite only meeting you. I’m really surprised to see everyone choosing Violet honestly.
I am surprised too. Right now there's nothing likable about her for me. She hasn't exactly proven herself. Like even if Luis comes off as annoying with his flirtations for some people, he's still useful. He's built traps and has shown he'll do the dangerous stuff no one wants to do. He also has shown he likes AJ and will take care of him, not because of Clem, but for AJ. He showed this by watching over AJ before Clem and him even met.
lol, seeing the comments here have redeemed the zombie pinata incident a little bit for me.
Right off that bat Louis watches over Aj and teach’s him how to play piano, he later continues to be selfless and loyal by offering his food… more to Aj. He also was willing to be the one to ring the bell to attract the walkers. He’s funny and lighthearted which is something Clementine definitely needs considering all the shit she’s gone through. His only major flaw is he gets distracted to easily and sometimes doesn’t take situations seriously enough which was obvious with the “zombie pinata“ incident. Right off the bat Violet starts throwing shade at you and distances herself. If you go fishing she just acts all debby downer and kills the mood. Louis is the clear winner here IMO, he’s kind and loyal to you right away despite only meeting you. I’m really surprised to see everyone choosing Violet honestly.
One of the things I like most about him is how welcoming he was. First impressions are not the most important thing about a person, but they matter in their own right. And he welcomed Clem and AJ with a smile and kindness. And he knew how to deal with AJ compared to that lady AJ bit. He seemed to know not to touch AJ and calmed him down instead by distracting him with a song.
Right off that bat Louis watches over Aj and teach’s him how to play piano, he later continues to be selfless and loyal by offering his food… more to Aj. He also was willing to be the one to ring the bell to attract the walkers. He’s funny and lighthearted which is something Clementine definitely needs considering all the shit she’s gone through. His only major flaw is he gets distracted to easily and sometimes doesn’t take situations seriously enough which was obvious with the “zombie pinata“ incident. Right off the bat Violet starts throwing shade at you and distances herself. If you go fishing she just acts all debby downer and kills the mood. Louis is the clear winner here IMO, he’s kind and loyal to you right away despite only meeting you. I’m really surprised to see everyone choosing Violet honestly.
I am surprised too. Right now there's nothing likable about her for me. She hasn't exactly proven herself. Like even if Luis comes off as an… morenoying with his flirtations for some people, he's still useful. He's built traps and has shown he'll do the dangerous stuff no one wants to do. He also has shown he likes AJ and will take care of him, not because of Clem, but for AJ. He showed this by watching over AJ before Clem and him even met.
lol, seeing the comments here have redeemed the zombie pinata incident a little bit for me.
Exactly this. While I have nothing against Violet and I think she's a great character, I believe Louis would just be better for these reasons. He's kind and funny, but it's not like he's not taking anything seriously. I also think he'd be a great help to Clementine in raising AJ to become a good person and not have a repeat of the Marlon situation. Maybe he's not the greatest survivalist, but he's a good person morally.
Right off that bat Louis watches over Aj and teach’s him how to play piano, he later continues to be selfless and loyal by offering his food… more to Aj. He also was willing to be the one to ring the bell to attract the walkers. He’s funny and lighthearted which is something Clementine definitely needs considering all the shit she’s gone through. His only major flaw is he gets distracted to easily and sometimes doesn’t take situations seriously enough which was obvious with the “zombie pinata“ incident. Right off the bat Violet starts throwing shade at you and distances herself. If you go fishing she just acts all debby downer and kills the mood. Louis is the clear winner here IMO, he’s kind and loyal to you right away despite only meeting you. I’m really surprised to see everyone choosing Violet honestly.
It's mostly because people hated Gabe and thought that Clem desevered to be with someone that was actually likeable/ better suited for her. … morePlus, a lot of fans saw Clem x Gabe as a super forced ship that was shoved down the player's throat. With Violet and Louis' case, it looks like TTG learned from their mistake and wanted Clem to build a relationship that was more organic and developed. Personally, I'm not 100% on board with it per se but i'm more for it this season vs TNF because of how it's handle better this time around
I can't wait for Clementeen to die, karmically rendering this constant nonsense moot.
@JustinCage It's mostly because people hated Gabe and thought that Clem desevered to be with someone that was actually likeable/ better suited for her. Plus, a lot of fans saw Clem x Gabe as a super forced ship that was shoved down the player's throat. With Violet and Louis' case, it looks like TTG learned from their mistake and wanted Clem to build a relationship that was more organic and developed. Personally, I'm not 100% on board with it per se but i'm more for it this season vs TNF because of how it's handle better this time around
Even though the "sexual tension" everyone kept saying was there was damn near non-existent with the character himself and mainly just a figment of their misreading, hungry for anything else to complain about imaginations. And the "actual" shipping later on was mainly on Clementeen's end and arguably their own damn faults for constantly talking about it in the first place.
Yeah, but that's kinda the thing: Violet is such a broad, faux-progressive(discounting the possibility that she is indeed the LGBT character here), and frankly overdone archetype that it's kinda hard for many to get behind her or find something to attach to.
That's not true...okay, let me be more specific: Gabe does experience some degrees of character growth in the ANF we collectively got and I honestly/personally doubt his character was really meant to qualify as a love interest for Clementine. I'd also like point out, biased or not, that he definitely had more personality than most would wanna give him credit for; more than Violet either way--nah, I kiddin.?
Everything else is fair though. Especially the point about there being likely clearer set benchmarks and endgoals for his character arc when they started compared to what they put out in May/June.
@MRSHYGUY45 posted: WE GOT ONE! In all seriousness, may I ask why?
Idk, some people actually seemed to quite like the idea. Particularly when it comes to artwork.
Which is good for them, as I'm glad someone found enjoyment in that shallowmess.
But @MetallicaRules? Why do you think Telltale thought we would like Gabe?
I honestly believe (and maybe this is the optimist in me … morespeaking) that there originally was going to be a larger character arc for Gabe, one that actually saw him grow and become stronger, but ended up getting scrapped or pushed off to the side. This would turn him into a more likable character that players could sympathize with, and would therefore lead players to be more open to a possible Gabentine outcome, especially if Clem would be the one to teach him. This is just my speculation, I have no proof to back this up, but with all the talented people at Telltale, I would find it hard to believe that they intentionally would set something like that up and purposely not do anything with it without some sort of reasoning behind it, because he went through zero character growth across the season.
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I had to basically force this little fucker to step in and help me so i'm a little bit unsure, not a definitive choice for sure, i'll see how it will work out.
@MelysBlossom I wanted my Clem to get in a relationship with Marlon, but I guess I haven't been left other choices after the first episode's finale....
Louis, funny and interesting character. Would like it to clash with Clem's seriousness.
for Violet, zombie apocalypse.lesbian relationshi… morep.father figure dead. sounds familiar?
but then again The legend of Korra pulled a sneaky korrasami so who knows.
You have to practically force both of them to help you out. Which is understandable because neither owe Clem anything or even know her well enough. In fact, I thought the whole thing was a bit too easy. Realistically everyone probably would've sided with the guy they've known for years vs the girl that literally just showed up. I mean to say when he framed her, they probably would've believed him no problem. Not when he confessed.
It's totally understandable, I guess I wanted to rush too quickly into any kind of relationship henceforth I'll take some distance and think about it twice before making a definitive opinion.
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You have to practically force both of them to help you out. Which is understandable because neither owe Clem anything or even kno… morew her well enough. In fact, I thought the whole thing was a bit too easy. Realistically everyone probably would've sided with the guy they've known for years vs the girl that literally just showed up. I mean to say when he framed her, they probably would've believed him no problem. Not when he confessed.
It's totally understandable, I guess I wanted to rush too quickly into any kind of relationship henceforth I'll take some distance and think about it twice before making a definitive opinion.
But which is one the better for you? Violet will continue interest me probably more episodes this final season and she and Clem have interesting conversations with each other and maybe more. I was on YouTube and it is insane of how many ppl are fighting over what ship is better for Clem? Luckily there is a choice,but I have seen 65% of more ppl want Violet and Clem and 35% of ppl want Louis and Clem.
It only took a few minutes for me to start shipping Violet and Clem lol. I'd rather Clem be with a girl than a guy and I like that Violet ha… mores her barriers and all, but we've seen that she can be sweet on the inside. I think they'd be really cute together so that's what I'm hoping for!
The more gameplay I watch, the more retarded Louis seems to me. No offense to players who want Clem with a goofy ass dude but it's going to be Violet all the way for me.
I knew from the moment that violet asked that stupid morbid question, about who was going to die first I wasn't going to like her. And the bitch has the nerve to get offended if you think she's going to die first for asking the stupid question. Louis at least seems to be more stable than she is, I mean violet seems like the type of person to threaten to kill herself if you leave her or cheat on her. I wouldn't be surprised if she was part of the eggy emo club during high school before the outbreak.
I knew from the moment that violet asked that stupid morbid question, about who was going to die first I wasn't going to like her. And the … morebitch has the nerve to get offended if you think she's going to die first for asking the stupid question. Louis at least seems to be more stable than she is, I mean violet seems like the type of person to threaten to kill herself if you leave her or cheat on her. I wouldn't be surprised if she was part of the eggy emo club during high school before the outbreak.
I knew from the moment that violet asked that stupid morbid question, about who was going to die first I wasn't going to like her. And the … morebitch has the nerve to get offended if you think she's going to die first for asking the stupid question. Louis at least seems to be more stable than she is, I mean violet seems like the type of person to threaten to kill herself if you leave her or cheat on her. I wouldn't be surprised if she was part of the eggy emo club during high school before the outbreak.
I’m actually suprised you prefer Violet. I’d find most people who liked/agreed with Kenny would be more towards Louis because while they are completely different characters with different characteristics and outlooks they share one important factor: care/loyalty toward Clem and more importantly, Aj. I wasn’t a fan of Louis in the beginning until I replayed and realized all the shit he does for Clem and Aj: He looks out for Aj while Clem was unconscious, He gives Aj his food, He helps Aj up after Marlon pushes him down. I also noticed if you go hunting with Aasim and Louis Aj will stick by him, but if you go with Brody and Vi to spearfish Aj runs of and does his own thing. When you decide who to appeal too in the end I find Louis acts a lot more selflessly. You have to realize that Marlon was Louis’s best friend (you see them together in the picture, Marlon says he’s his best friend, and Aasim will even call Louis “Marlon’s lap dog”) so this decision was way harder for Louis, he literally went against his best friend he’s known for longer then anyone else and stands by your side. Meanwhile Violet Isn’t nearly as close to Marlon (“this place can get a little to bro-town for my liking”) and she even has a reason to go against him because Marlon gave up her girlfriend. She also says “I don’t know you Clem, not really” even if you sympathized and sided with her the whole episode.
The more gameplay I watch, the more retarded Louis seems to me. No offense to players who want Clem with a goofy ass dude but it's going to be Violet all the way for me.
I’m actually suprised you prefer Violet. I’d find most people who liked/agreed with Kenny would be more towards Louis because while they are… more completely different characters with different characteristics and outlooks they share one important factor: care/loyalty toward Clem and more importantly, Aj. I wasn’t a fan of Louis in the beginning until I replayed and realized all the shit he does for Clem and Aj: He looks out for Aj while Clem was unconscious, He gives Aj his food, He helps Aj up after Marlon pushes him down. I also noticed if you go hunting with Aasim and Louis Aj will stick by him, but if you go with Brody and Vi to spearfish Aj runs of and does his own thing. When you decide who to appeal too in the end I find Louis acts a lot more selflessly. You have to realize that Marlon was Louis’s best friend (you see them together in the picture, Marlon says he’s his best friend, and Aasim will even call Louis “Marlon’s lap dog”) so this d… [view original content]
Before he even meets Clem he watches over Aj. And the way he gives Aj his food seems less like a cheap move on Clem and more like he simply just likes the little man. And idk about you, but I wouldn’t go against my bestest friend for a simple crush.
Okay assuming that your a guy by that logic, your roleplaying playing as a girl isn't that already as gay it gets. For a straight guy, at that point what does it matter what gender you romance?
Okay assuming that your a guy by that logic, your roleplaying playing as a girl isn't that already as gay it gets. For a straight guy, at that point what does it matter what gender you romance?
Okay assuming that your a guy by that logic, your roleplaying playing as a girl isn't that already as gay it gets. For a straight guy, at that point what does it matter what gender you romance?
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This is a great thing to think about and I think you are 100% right. Clem and Louis' personalities compliment each other real nicely. I also agree with Louis' potential character development and this might even stem from the whole Marlon situation. The knowledge of Marlon's action, his death (Marlon was, after all, his childhood friend). Abandoning the pinata for a moment, he's proven that he "gets shit done" when push comes to shove, even though he comes across as unreliable as hell. He'll always be a little goofy at heart (and I'd hate for him to lose that completely) but I would be excited to see him develop more in the following episodes.
Right off that bat Louis watches over Aj and teach’s him how to play piano, he later continues to be selfless and loyal by offering his food to Aj. He also was willing to be the one to ring the bell to attract the walkers. He’s funny and lighthearted which is something Clementine definitely needs considering all the shit she’s gone through. His only major flaw is he gets distracted to easily and sometimes doesn’t take situations seriously enough which was obvious with the “zombie pinata“ incident. Right off the bat Violet starts throwing shade at you and distances herself. If you go fishing she just acts all debby downer and kills the mood. Louis is the clear winner here IMO, he’s kind and loyal to you right away despite only meeting you. I’m really surprised to see everyone choosing Violet honestly.
I am surprised too. Right now there's nothing likable about her for me. She hasn't exactly proven herself. Like even if Luis comes off as annoying with his flirtations for some people, he's still useful. He's built traps and has shown he'll do the dangerous stuff no one wants to do. He also has shown he likes AJ and will take care of him, not because of Clem, but for AJ. He showed this by watching over AJ before Clem and him even met.
lol, seeing the comments here have redeemed the zombie pinata incident a little bit for me.
One of the things I like most about him is how welcoming he was. First impressions are not the most important thing about a person, but they matter in their own right. And he welcomed Clem and AJ with a smile and kindness. And he knew how to deal with AJ compared to that lady AJ bit. He seemed to know not to touch AJ and calmed him down instead by distracting him with a song.
THANK YOU!
Exactly this. While I have nothing against Violet and I think she's a great character, I believe Louis would just be better for these reasons. He's kind and funny, but it's not like he's not taking anything seriously. I also think he'd be a great help to Clementine in raising AJ to become a good person and not have a repeat of the Marlon situation. Maybe he's not the greatest survivalist, but he's a good person morally.
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I can't wait for Clementeen to die, karmically rendering this constant nonsense moot.
Even though the "sexual tension" everyone kept saying was there was damn near non-existent with the character himself and mainly just a figment of their misreading, hungry for anything else to complain about imaginations. And the "actual" shipping later on was mainly on Clementeen's end and arguably their own damn faults for constantly talking about it in the first place.
Yeah, but that's kinda the thing: Violet is such a broad, faux-progressive(discounting the possibility that she is indeed the LGBT character here), and frankly overdone archetype that it's kinda hard for many to get behind her or find something to attach to.
That doesn't help either.
That's not true...okay, let me be more specific: Gabe does experience some degrees of character growth in the ANF we collectively got and I honestly/personally doubt his character was really meant to qualify as a love interest for Clementine. I'd also like point out, biased or not, that he definitely had more personality than most would wanna give him credit for; more than Violet either way--nah, I kiddin.?
Everything else is fair though. Especially the point about there being likely clearer set benchmarks and endgoals for his character arc when they started compared to what they put out in May/June.
Idk, some people actually seemed to quite like the idea. Particularly when it comes to artwork.
Which is good for them, as I'm glad someone found enjoyment in that shallowmess.
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Louis but...
I had to basically force this little fucker to step in and help me so i'm a little bit unsure, not a definitive choice for sure, i'll see how it will work out.
Best stance to have.
Is it bad that I'm kinda glad that's the case?
Ah, but see, Korra and Asami had different characters, had chemistry, and were there for each other in down and even tense times.
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You have to practically force both of them to help you out. Which is understandable because neither owe Clem anything or even know her well enough. In fact, I thought the whole thing was a bit too easy. Realistically everyone probably would've sided with the guy they've known for years vs the girl that literally just showed up. I mean to say when he framed her, they probably would've believed him no problem. Not when he confessed.
I'm curious about other people's playthroughs. I only seemed to have pleasant conversation with Violet.
I was apologetic when she complained about the walkers at the start and never ran into any problems.
Are there ways in which Violet can be confrontational with Clementine?
It's totally understandable, I guess I wanted to rush too quickly into any kind of relationship henceforth I'll take some distance and think about it twice before making a definitive opinion.
I think, hopefully, both will be good. I'm excited for the replay value it'll offer.
But which is one the better for you? Violet will continue interest me probably more episodes this final season and she and Clem have interesting conversations with each other and maybe more. I was on YouTube and it is insane of how many ppl are fighting over what ship is better for Clem? Luckily there is a choice,but I have seen 65% of more ppl want Violet and Clem and 35% of ppl want Louis and Clem.
Also did you notice the rainbow pin on Violet's clothes
The more gameplay I watch, the more retarded Louis seems to me. No offense to players who want Clem with a goofy ass dude but it's going to be Violet all the way for me.
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I knew from the moment that violet asked that stupid morbid question, about who was going to die first I wasn't going to like her. And the bitch has the nerve to get offended if you think she's going to die first for asking the stupid question. Louis at least seems to be more stable than she is, I mean violet seems like the type of person to threaten to kill herself if you leave her or cheat on her. I wouldn't be surprised if she was part of the eggy emo club during high school before the outbreak.
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I'd like mine sunnyside up, nightfallz!
How old is Violet anyway?
I'm not gay so of course I choose Violet
Im sorry
Close together
But Violet is
Yeah but I ain't. If I choose Louis, that would be gay, you see.
I’m actually suprised you prefer Violet. I’d find most people who liked/agreed with Kenny would be more towards Louis because while they are completely different characters with different characteristics and outlooks they share one important factor: care/loyalty toward Clem and more importantly, Aj. I wasn’t a fan of Louis in the beginning until I replayed and realized all the shit he does for Clem and Aj: He looks out for Aj while Clem was unconscious, He gives Aj his food, He helps Aj up after Marlon pushes him down. I also noticed if you go hunting with Aasim and Louis Aj will stick by him, but if you go with Brody and Vi to spearfish Aj runs of and does his own thing. When you decide who to appeal too in the end I find Louis acts a lot more selflessly. You have to realize that Marlon was Louis’s best friend (you see them together in the picture, Marlon says he’s his best friend, and Aasim will even call Louis “Marlon’s lap dog”) so this decision was way harder for Louis, he literally went against his best friend he’s known for longer then anyone else and stands by your side. Meanwhile Violet Isn’t nearly as close to Marlon (“this place can get a little to bro-town for my liking”) and she even has a reason to go against him because Marlon gave up her girlfriend. She also says “I don’t know you Clem, not really” even if you sympathized and sided with her the whole episode.
it kept saying 3 body characters to short I haven't posted gifs in a while
Louis probably has a crush on Clementine. He seems like the kind of guy who will do anything for it.
Just put dots/periods outside of the format, buddy.
Before he even meets Clem he watches over Aj. And the way he gives Aj his food seems less like a cheap move on Clem and more like he simply just likes the little man. And idk about you, but I wouldn’t go against my bestest friend for a simple crush.
Okay assuming that your a guy by that logic, your roleplaying playing as a girl isn't that already as gay it gets. For a straight guy, at that point what does it matter what gender you romance?
I knew someone would go there.
xd I was just baiting, carry on.
Quite the conundrum he has there, ain't it?
The solution is simple--don't romance nobody. But I guess that's too simple.
Good job man you got me you sly dog you!
