ToMI Ch. 4 - The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood: TRIAL BEGINS FRIDAY!

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  • edited October 2009
    Getting close to release now! "Next week" according to the homepage. Woohoo!

    Of course, we knew it had to be next week anyway. :)
  • edited October 2009
    My heart is racing as the wait gets shorter and shorter! 8^O
    Hope them ribs can withstand the pounding! ;^)

    As for my thoughts and speculations, -

    I say 30th release date.

    Also, I was wondering if you get to play LaChuck (maybe not on the whole game) on a rescue mission.
    Maybe LaChuck tackles De Singe and gets the pox injection needle in doing so. De Singe destroys the sponge so that no cure exists. You save Guybrush but getting the pox back. Thus, the story comes full circle in Monkey Island games after With LaChuck once again evil!

    As for Elaine and Morgan?

    I've no clue, but it'll be interesting to see what happens to them...
  • edited October 2009
    they do a DNA test and Morgan LeFlay finds out that she is in fact Guybrush Threepwood
    long lost sister
  • edited October 2009
    I'm not the only one to notice that the chapter 4 synopsis has been posted up, am I? well, either way, I haven't seen it on this thread yet, so:
    Guybrush returns to Flotsam Island, but forget about a hero's welcome. Handed over to De Singe by the backstabbing Morgan LeFlay, Guybrush is seized by an angry mob and put on trial! With a silk-tongued prosecutor in his face and a hangman's noose dangling over his neck, Guybrush must figure out how to defend himself against grave accusations. Meanwhile, the determined Marquis sets his sights on a new and far more attractive test subject. How on earth will the Mighty Pirate get out of this mess? The monthly Tales of Monkey Island tension continues to mount in "The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood." Brace yourself for a shocking revelation that will rock the world of Monkey Island to its core.

    So, my guesses are that
    Stan's not the defense we'd been hoping for Guybrush, and Elaine winds up in the clutches of De Singe. Guybrush will inevitably escape to try to save his wife, but what's the big shocker at the end?
    But whatever DOES happen, I'm ridiculously excited for it! So close!
  • edited October 2009
    As usual I can't wait, loving the synopsis.
    Brace yourself for a shocking revelation that will rock the world of Monkey Island to its core.
    0_0 x100

    That's it, somebody wake me when the game's released. Thanks ;)
  • edited October 2009
    meche wrote: »
    Meanwhile, the determined Marquis sets his sights on a new and far more attractive test subject.
    Hey, yeah! Because Guybrush is no longer of any use to DeSinge now because he no longer has the pox, meaning that he will now go after Elaine! The knowledge that DeSinge will gain from his experiments will make him a PIRATE GOD!
    ... that's my guess anyway.
  • edited October 2009
    Having now seen the the new TTG homepage, the fact that the Judges bench has a skull and crossbones on it makes me think that Guybrush isn't being charged with piracy.
  • edited October 2009
    they do a DNA test and Morgan LeFlay finds out that she is in fact Guybrush Threepwood
    long lost sister
    Interesting idea! Well, in Curse of Monkey Island, he tried to set up Haggis with "his sister", so... why not? :D
  • edited October 2009
    ... And in Revenge, he mentions a dollhouse that his sister used to have. But that was mainly a cover-up.
  • edited October 2009
    Hey, yeah! Because Guybrush is no longer of any use to DeSinge now because he no longer has the pox, meaning that he will now go after Elaine!
    ... that's my guess anyway.
    Leaves me with the question: What will LeChuck do to save Elaine? Or will he do anything at all because this is part of his master plan?
  • edited October 2009
    I wonder exactly what De Singe's elixir will do. If it can give people immortality and power without making them undead, wouldn't that be perfect for LeChuck? He likes the fact that he looks handsome, charming, and clean, but also misses his powers to crush armies and kill people. If he uses the elixir to become immortal, he may be working with De Singe and is giving him Elaine to perfect the formula and then take her back to turn her into his poxed bride.

    The fact that De Singe has access to Elaine seemingly can mean that she is on the island with LeChuck. Why would LeChuck be there unless he has something planned. Perhaps he once went to Flotsam to get some monkeys and met De Singe there. Now he's using the monkeys as yet another excuse to go to Flotsam.
  • edited October 2009
    I wonder exactly what De Singe's elixir will do. If it can give people immortality and power without making them undead, wouldn't that be perfect for LeChuck? He likes the fact that he looks handsome, charming, and clean, but also misses his powers to crush armies and kill people. If he uses the elixir to become immortal, he may be working with De Singe and is giving him Elaine to perfect the formula and then take her back to turn her into his poxed bride.

    The fact that De Singe has access to Elaine seemingly can mean that she is on the island with LeChuck. Why would LeChuck be there unless he has something planned. Perhaps he once went to Flotsam to get some monkeys and met De Singe there. Now he's using the monkies as yet another exuse to go to Flotsam.

    Nice theory there, darknessofheart. Like De Singe said: "La mort es tué" - Death is beaten. It's most likely that the elixir will offer immortality to anyone who drinks (?) it. I actually didn't think about a link to LeChuck here, missing his former powers, referring to the scene where he's beaten up by the pox ridden pirates on Spoon Isle. That might explain why he's holding back his evil mind, playing nice 24/7 - one wrong step and he might die a human death which will be irrevocable. Perhaps this is also why he's treating Elaine so patiently during her episodes, she might as well attack him while under the pox (as Guybrush did with Bugeye).

    Also, your words remind me of what Guybrush said to LeChuck in the opening scene of EP1: "If evil is always evolving - why doesn't it evolve in something less butt-ugly?" Well, there we go: LeChuck took his advice. ;-)

    I still don't see why a nice, clean and handsome LeChuck would want a poxed Elaine as his bride. Maybe once De Singe is done with extracting the pox from her (IF he gets that far, that is) she will be freed from the pox?

    I'm also curious as to how Elaine will fall into De Singe's hands - if she does (the synopsis just speaks of him having another subject in sight).

    There are quite a few possible reasons why LeChuck and Elaine will go to Flotsam. Apart from the possibility of LeChuck having a deal with De Singe, the winds might just pull them in as they get too close to the island.
    Or, since they didn't find Guybrush in Spinner Cay where they separated, they head for "that island he spoke of with the winds blowing inward."

    Also, they might head for Flotsam for the fact that there is a doctor who might help Elaine with "whatever she has come down with." We saw that LeChuck is keeping Elaine in the dark about the fact that she's got the pox, nor does she seem to realize it herself. As far as she goes, she just doesn't feel too good and has that strange cough.
    That is: She might go there voluntarily.

    I can also imagine a scene of De Singe on his balcony, watching LeChuck and Elaine arriving at the docks and becoming witness of an outbreak of her pox. That being right after he realizes that Guybrush is cured, thus useless to him (and being whisked away to court anyway). He would then assign Morgan (still being around after delivering Guybrush to him) to go get Elaine.

    We remember Morgan spitting out Elaine's name in disgust at the end of EP2. She has a reason to hate Elaine so she will gladly accept to take her in.
    Whatever common past there might be of these two, it should be revealed in EP4. I personally dislike the idea of a girlfight in a Monkey Island game, but, well, I think a confrontation between Morgan and Elaine is inevitable (and I guess some of the boys here will enjoy a catfight scene between them).

    All this being only a theory, of course. ;-)
  • edited October 2009
    Mermaid wrote: »
    Nice theory there, darknessofheart. Like De Singe said: "La mort es tué" - Death is beaten. It's most likely that the elixir will offer immortality to anyone who drinks (?) it. I actually didn't think about a link to LeChuck here, missing his former powers, referring to the scene where he's beaten up by the pox ridden pirates on Spoon Isle. That might explain why he's holding back his evil mind, playing nice 24/7 - one wrong step and he might die a human death which will be irrevocable. Perhaps this is also why he's treating Elaine so patiently during her episodes, she might as well attack him while under the pox (as Guybrush did with Bugeye).

    Also, your words remind me of what Guybrush said to LeChuck in the opening scene of EP1: "If evil is always evolving - why doesn't it evolve in something less butt-ugly?" Well, there we go: LeChuck took his advice. ;-)

    I still don't see why a nice, clean and handsome LeChuck would want a poxed Elaine as his bride. Maybe once De Singe is done with extracting the pox from her (IF he gets that far, that is) she will be freed from the pox?

    I'm also curious as to how Elaine will fall into De Singe's hands - if she does (the synopsis just speaks of him having another subject in sight).

    There are quite a few possible reasons why LeChuck and Elaine will go to Flotsam. Apart from the possibility of LeChuck having a deal with De Singe, the winds might just pull them in as they get too close to the island.
    Or, since they didn't find Guybrush in Spinner Cay where they separated, they head for "that island he spoke of with the winds blowing inward."

    Also, they might head for Flotsam for the fact that there is a doctor who might help Elaine with "whatever she has come down with." We saw that LeChuck is keeping Elaine in the dark about the fact that she's got the pox, nor does she seem to realize it herself. As far as she goes, she just doesn't feel too good and has that strange cough.
    That is: She might go there voluntarily.

    I can also imagine a scene of De Singe on his balcony, watching LeChuck and Elaine arriving at the docks and becoming witness of an outbreak of her pox. That being right after he realizes that Guybrush is cured, thus useless to him (and being whisked away to court anyway). He would then assign Morgan (still being around after delivering Guybrush to him) to go get Elaine.

    We remember Morgan spitting out Elaine's name in disgust at the end of EP2. She has a reason to hate Elaine so she will gladly accept to take her in.
    Whatever common past there might be of these two, it should be revealed in EP4. I personally dislike the idea of a girlfight in a Monkey Island game, but, well, I think a confrontation between Morgan and Elaine is inevitable (and I guess some of the boys here will enjoy a catfight scene between them).

    All this being only a theory, of course. ;-)

    Very good ideas. As to why LeChuck would want Elaine poxed, there could be several reasons. One is that the pox is what is driving Elaine to fall for him, perhaps once they are hitched and Guybrush is "dead", then he will cure her. Another reason is that if LeChuck is really behind everything, then he is still a pure evil incarnate villain. He would love to have Elaine enjoy in what he does, torture, mass murder, psychotic piracy, taking over the seas, and just committing millions of inhuman crimes.

    I can picture LeChuck made a deal with De Singe to create the elixir, as he was planning to become a human but would soon want to acquire his old powers again while still remaining a human. I think he is controlling the monkeys to find secrets throughout the islands and is collecting them as he is returning the monkeys and is planning on combining them with the elixir to become a pirate god. Now that Guybrush is cured (although I still want to know why his case was special as De Singe said many times), Elaine is the only reliable test subject, so LeChuck gives her to De Singe and steals the sponge. He manipulated Guybrush to find it for him to insure nothing stops the pox and he can control all of the inhabitants of the seas. I also believe LeChuck set up the trail and is manipulating it through the pox.

    All a theory, but if it's true, this is a true genius master plan. I'm hoping LeChuck is this eerily smart and evil, it's time for that pure evil flame to burn forth again. After Escape, LeChuck deserves to be the main threat again even though it's debatable if he was the main villain in Escape or not.
  • edited October 2009
    Whatever the plot is, playing it will be AWESOME!
  • edited October 2009
    thatdude98 wrote: »
    Whatever the plot is, playing it will be AWESOME!

    Agreed.
  • edited October 2009
    Mermaid, there's a serious problem with your theory - the winds aren't blowing inward anymore.
  • edited October 2009
    Mermaid, there's a serious problem with your theory - the winds aren't blowing inward anymore.

    Well, Guybrush was able to get back, perhaps De Singe found a way to reverse the winds again.
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    edited October 2009
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  • edited October 2009
    Due to the spacing in regidor dragon's post, I just read it as such
    they do a DNA test and Morgan LeFlay finds out that she is in fact Guybrush Threepwood

    And I think that's a much more exciting scenario
  • edited October 2009
    The simplest answer seems to be that Guybrush gets executed and becomes a pirate god.
  • edited October 2009
    Well, Guybrush was able to get back, perhaps De Singe found a way to reverse the winds again.

    That's what I thought. Plus, Morgan was able to go there and leave from there several times, so I'd be surprised if De Singe hadn't fixed that wind problem in the meantime.
  • edited October 2009
    Mermaid wrote: »
    That's what I thought. Plus, Morgan was able to go there and leave from there several times, so I'd be surprised if De Singe hadn't fixed that wind problem in the meantime.

    How can he without the merkey?
  • edited October 2009
    The simplest answer seems to be that Guybrush gets executed and becomes a pirate god.

    Perphaps! But this should be a family game, right? :P
  • edited October 2009
    dvibe wrote: »
    Perphaps! But this should be a family game, right? :P

    They've crossed the line too much already with the 'Suggestive themes' to class it as a family-friendly game. Even Fireman Sam was more subtle than this (and that, if I recall correctly, was very provocative).

    They know their core fan base is ppl aged 20yo+ that played the original MI games when they came out. We all appreciate a cheeky remark about the Voodoo Lady's cans or whatever.

    And don't any of you dare tell me TT are a family-friendly game company. Would you teach kids Texas Hold 'Em? Would you give your kid a smack if they came out with the crap that flies out of Max's mouth? Is teaching kids to treat their school pals like Strong Bad treats his fellow cast a good idea?
  • edited October 2009
    If I had a kid, I wouldn't want them to see Specs at the end of Sam and Max, season 2 ;)
  • edited October 2009
    Marty wrote: »
    If I had a kid, I wouldn't want them to see Specs at the end of Sam and Max, season 2 ;)

    Don't you mean Peepers or Whizzer?
    Dick Peacock is far too creepy as a seducer and Whizzer urinates on you
  • edited October 2009
    tbm1986 wrote: »
    How can he without the merkey?

    Built a replacement key? Disabled the machine by destroying it? Having had help from LeChuck? There must a way or else noone could return to Flotsam.
  • edited October 2009
    tbm1986 wrote: »
    They've crossed the line too much already with the 'Suggestive themes' to class it as a family-friendly game. Even Fireman Sam was more subtle than this (and that, if I recall correctly, was very provocative).

    They know their core fan base is ppl aged 20yo+ that played the original MI games when they came out. We all appreciate a cheeky remark about the Voodoo Lady's cans or whatever.

    And don't any of you dare tell me TT are a family-friendly game company. Would you teach kids Texas Hold 'Em? Would you give your kid a smack if they came out with the crap that flies out of Max's mouth? Is teaching kids to treat their school pals like Strong Bad treats his fellow cast a good idea?

    Thanks for your feedback! I'm not sure how serious I was though.. :)

    Although, I wouldn't really appreciate that they take Guybrush to the electric chair.. It's not really that sense of humour that I like, although, it would probably a good political sarcastic remark to those who think death penalty actually still belongs to a modern democratic society..

    But let's not get this thread to a political debate :)
  • edited October 2009
    dvibe wrote: »
    Thanks for your feedback! I'm not sure how serious I was though.. :)

    Although, I wouldn't really appreciate that they take Guybrush to the electric chair..

    The electric chair wasn't invented before 1881 I'm afraid... ;)
  • edited October 2009
    Mermaid wrote: »
    The electric chair wasn't invented before 1881 I'm afraid... ;)

    Neither was Australia, but that didn't stop Ozzie Mandrill.
  • edited October 2009
    apenpaap wrote: »
    Neither was Australia, but that didn't stop Ozzie Mandrill.

    Yeah, Monkey Island has no logic in terms of technology. They still use candles and have no television, but yet have lights, theme parks, self loading cannons, auto ships, giants monkey robots, plenty of electricity, grog machines, fire alarms, and knowledge of movies and futuristic things. You can't use something like a time period as evidence to why they can't have an electric chair as the time period in the series seems to have many things we have today.
  • edited October 2009
    everyone is too focused on the execution. If that was the only thing in the episode there wouldn't be a lot of puzzles and riddles. I think the execution will happen at the beginning and then you'll have to save something/someone else. Plus that thing with the electric chair.... quite possible. Remember the monkey in the 1st episode :D? Quite ,,electric,, :D. Anyway i can't wait to see what will we have to do next.
  • edited October 2009
    Geypi wrote: »
    Everyone is too focused on the trial/execution. If that was the only thing in the episode, there wouldn't be a lot of puzzles and riddles. I think the trial/execution will happen at the beginning and then you'll have to save something/someone else.

    That idea sounds a lot like the 3rd installment of a very famous MI rip-off franchise, in that the title is "At World's End" but that part of the story is over very quickly.

    I think there will be a lot to do before the trial, personally.
  • edited October 2009
    tbm1986 wrote: »
    That idea sounds a lot like the 3rd installment of a very famous MI rip-off franchise, in that the title is "At World's End" but that part of the story is over very quickly.

    I think there will be a lot to do before the trial, personally.

    The only thing MI and POTC have in common are pirates... and that's it.
  • edited October 2009
    Geypi wrote: »
    The only thing MI and POTC have in common are pirates... and that's it.

    Great humour too. Also, Elizabeth is a lot like Elaine. Guybrush and LeChuck have both become two characters though: Guygrush is both Will Turner and Jack Sparrow, while LeChuck is both Barbossa and Davy Jones. O, and there's the dog with the keys.
  • edited October 2009
    apenpaap wrote: »
    Great humour too. Also, Elizabeth is a lot like Elaine. Guybrush and LeChuck have both become two characters though: Guygrush is both Will Turner and Jack Sparrow, while LeChuck is both Barbossa and Davy Jones. O, and there's the dog with the keys.

    Not to mention using a coffin as a boat! And the presence of Voodoo Ladies in both franchises...
  • edited October 2009
    There is a bit more similarities than just pirates..... humor, voodoo, the undead, curses, functioning pirate societies, and the use of the classic "heroes journey" story arc to name a few.
  • puzzleboxpuzzlebox Telltale Alumni
    edited October 2009
    I can't believe no one has mentioned "monkeys" or "islands" yet. :p
  • edited October 2009
    It would actually make sense if LeChuck was on flotsam island previously. It would explain where he got the flower he gave to Elaine previously at the end of the first chapter.
  • edited October 2009
    He got it from TTG prop dept duh
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