The First Great Monkey Island Race of 2010

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  • edited June 2010
    Are we allowed to pause for say, lunch, and then resume the game?

    you can pause any time, i think
    Officially, yes, but I'm pretty lenient, as long as anyone who needs more time lets me know before I start announcing results or anything.

    I probably won't finish until at least the 20th, as im in bali the first 4 days... i still want to participate though!
  • edited June 2010
    No! No eating during the contest! No peeing either!

    Seriously, feel free, just make sure to either make posts here at the beginning and end of your break, or to time your break and include it with your ending post.

    :p

    This sounds like a lot of fun, if I had the time. Though come to think of it people can just sit down with a walk through and cheat...I know CMI and EMI rather well but I haven't completely memorized SMI LR and TMI yet.
  • edited June 2010
    you can pause any time, i think



    I probably won't finish until at least the 20th, as im in bali the first 4 days... i still want to participate though!

    This does present a bit of a problem. My dad's two week vacation starts on the 17th, and I don't know if I'll be here working around the house or if I'll be gone and unable to figure and post results. Any chance you'd want to/be able to start early like Ozzie is? Even if that means you have to split your race, that would be fine.
    doodo! wrote: »
    :p

    This sounds like a lot of fun, if I had the time. Though come to think of it people can just sit down with a walk through and cheat...I know CMI and EMI rather well but I haven't completely memorized SMI RL and TMI yet.

    I really didn't find it too hard. The last race was my third run ever of both Escape and Tales, and I did okay.
  • edited June 2010
    Actually, I really wonder how it feels to play them all back to back. I might do it some day, not for a contest. I'd like to see how the series feels from start to finish. I loved Star Wars 1-5 (didn't finish).

    I wonder how the Monkey Island series plays out back to back.


    I really didn't find it too hard. The last race was my third run ever of both Escape and Tales, and I did okay.

    I've only played them a few times too. I still haven't went back to beat Grim Fandango or Still Life...
  • edited June 2010
    I probably wont go to well since Ive only properly played somi once (last year when the SE came out) and will be playing LR for the first time when the SE comes out, but who cares its all a bit of fun.
  • edited June 2010
    This does present a bit of a problem. My dad's two week vacation starts on the 17th, and I don't know if I'll be here working around the house or if I'll be gone and unable to figure and post results. Any chance you'd want to/be able to start early like Ozzie is? Even if that means you have to split your race, that would be fine.

    If you go on holiday, I (or someone else) can keep record of the results while you're away.
  • edited June 2010
    doodo! wrote: »
    Actually, I really wonder how it feels to play them all back to back. I might do it some day, not for a contest. I'd like to see how the series feels from start to finish. I loved Star Wars 1-5 (didn't finish).

    I wonder how the Monkey Island series plays out back to back.

    It's awesome in theory, but in practice, you end up falling asleep through Monkey Kombat, and 18 hours after you started, you have to give the whole thing up just after starting Narwhal. I mean, the whole thing ended up taking me 21 hours total, and that's with the fastest recorded time for Curse. It's a noble endeavor, but it would require a very fast pace for each game and incredible endurance to run the entire series back to back.
    apenpaap wrote: »
    If you go on holiday, I (or someone else) can keep record of the results while you're away.

    It's not likely. There's a decent chance I'll end up painting the house that week.
  • edited June 2010
    I'm so excited! :D
  • edited June 2010
    will live stream save the video files on my computer? If so is there a way to disable that?
  • edited June 2010
    Yes, and yes but I don't remember how, so you'll have to poke around in the settings.
  • edited June 2010
    What is the rules on the sea battle difficulty in Curse? I've never tried the easy mode, but I imagine it would take shorter.
  • edited June 2010
    This sounds interesting! Hmm, I wonder if I can do this. I am playing on my netbook. And I have SMI and LR on here (always), and Tales. But I don't know how I'll get Curse or Escape on here. Maybe I can network to my father's computer and install it from the CDs there? I've wanted an excuse to play Escape again, I only played it twice years ago.

    So how does the dialogue go? Are we supposed to go through all the dialogue choices? Or only the ones necessary to advance the plot?

    I could probably play SMI and LR half asleep. And what about clickable text? Or do we have to put it just on the fastest text setting? My fastest text settings are really slow. I read a line and then wait another 5+ seconds for the characters to finish mouthing the words.
  • edited June 2010
    Jenny wrote: »
    This sounds interesting! Hmm, I wonder if I can do this. I am playing on my netbook. And I have SMI and LR on here (always), and Tales. But I don't know how I'll get Curse or Escape on here. Maybe I can network to my father's computer and install it from the CDs there?

    My first thought would be to rip the CDs to ISO files and use a virtual drive app to install. I imagine you'll need the replacement installers/launchers too.
  • edited June 2010
    With the replacement installers, you don't need the CD's to play the games. You don't need the CD's to play CMI with ScummVM either.


    The replacement launchers are pointless and unnecessary. idk about CMI's, but EMI's replacement launcher only adds the ability to increase the ingame resolution, which goofs up the cutscene size and make on-screen text often way too small.

    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    Anyways, I just wanted to post/repost this to let everyone know how to do it, in case you still can't figure it out. These instructions are for Windows.

    For Curse of Monkey Island, you have two options.
    Either you can copy the files listed on the ScummVM wiki: http://wiki.scummvm.org/index.php/Datafiles#Curse_of_Monkey_Island.2C_The [which says you need the "RESOURCE" folder (combined from [U]both discs[/U]), "COMI.LA0", "COMI.LA1", and "COMI.LA2"] and further follow the directions from my quote to get it running in ScummVM...

    Or you can use a new installer built for newer OS's (similar to that for EMI or GF.)
    http://quick.mixnmojo.com/cmi-setup OR http://code.google.com/p/curseofmonkeyislandsetupandlauncher/

    ScummVM will not require you to insert the disc while playing the game.


    For Escape from Monkey Island and Grim Fandango, you need new game installers. The launcher that comes with each installer is unnecessary.

    EMI Setup: http://quick.mixnmojo.com/escape-from-monkey-island-setup
    Grim Setup: http://quick.mixnmojo.com/grim-fandango-setup

    [...further instructions quoted from old post about setting up games in ScummVM...]
  • edited June 2010
    apenpaap wrote: »
    What is the rules on the sea battle difficulty in Curse? I've never tried the easy mode, but I imagine it would take shorter.

    I never even considered that. I went with easy for the last two races, so I guess I'd have to say it's allowed.
    Jenny wrote: »
    This sounds interesting! Hmm, I wonder if I can do this. I am playing on my netbook. And I have SMI and LR on here (always), and Tales. But I don't know how I'll get Curse or Escape on here. Maybe I can network to my father's computer and install it from the CDs there? I've wanted an excuse to play Escape again, I only played it twice years ago.

    So how does the dialogue go? Are we supposed to go through all the dialogue choices? Or only the ones necessary to advance the plot?

    I could probably play SMI and LR half asleep. And what about clickable text? Or do we have to put it just on the fastest text setting? My fastest text settings are really slow. I read a line and then wait another 5+ seconds for the characters to finish mouthing the words.

    That sounds like a performance issue. You'd be at a disadvantage that I have no idea how to counter, but you're still welcome to participate if you like. And the dialogue is part of the challenge. Knowing exactly which dialogue options are and aren't necessary is a huge part of finishing the fastest.
  • edited June 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    The replacement launchers are pointless and unnecessary. idk about CMI's, but EMI's replacement launcher only adds the ability to increase the ingame resolution, which goofs up the cutscene size and make on-screen text often way too small.

    Depends what OS she's running. If it's 32-bit, she probably doesn't need the launchers. If it's 64-bit, she might. I know I can't run CMI/EMI without the replacement launchers on 64-bit Vista, at least. It just throws a "not compatible with this version" error.
  • edited June 2010
    zhebrica wrote: »
    Depends what OS she's running. If it's 32-bit, she probably doesn't need the launchers. If it's 64-bit, she might. I know I can't run CMI/EMI without the replacement launchers on 64-bit Vista, at least. It just throws a "not compatible with this version" error.

    I have Windows 7 64-bit, and can confirm (I just checked) that EMI works just fine with the updated installer even without using the updated launcher. You can use the old launcher "Monkey.exe", the new launcher "emi launcher.exe" or the actual game "monkey4.exe". Any of them work. I haven't just now confirmed CMI does, as I have it set up to use ScummVM

    However, it seems that you do have to use the CD's or CD Images for the games, unless you have installed a no-cd patch.
  • edited June 2010
    That reminds me, I want to see if I can get it working on a single DVD so I don't have to change discs during the race.

    Can you get the game running in windowed mode without the custom launcher? That's kind of important for broadcasting, since Procaster won't bind to Escape.
  • edited June 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    I have Windows 7 64-bit, and can confirm (I just checked) that EMI works just fine with the updated installer even without using the updated launcher. You can use the old launcher "Monkey.exe", the new launcher "emi launcher.exe" or the actual game "monkey4.exe". Any of them work. I haven't just now confirmed CMI does, as I have it set up to use ScummVM

    However, it seems that you do have to use the CD's or CD Images for the games, unless you have installed a no-cd patch.


    What do you need CD's/Cd images for? Is that only for 64-bit? and are you only talking about EMI?
  • edited June 2010
    Ok, now I definitely know I'm in. Pre-ordered Monkey 2, so can you put up the link to my streaming channel?

    http://www.livestream.com/ozziemonkeycast

    I think I know how to set up the streaming process. How do I go about a commentary, though?
  • edited June 2010
    Sheesh, that OP is getting ridiculous to edit.

    I'm assuming by commentary, you mean that you want to be able to speak alongside the game? The only way I can think to do that is to configure Procaster to broadcast what's coming from your speakers (and in my experience, that is not the "speakers audio" option, as you might think), and then somehow have a program running that causes the sound from your microphone to run through the speakers, being careful not to end up in a feedback loop.
  • edited June 2010
    Holy Under Monkey Island that's a lot of participants.
  • edited June 2010
    prizna wrote: »
    What do you need CD's/Cd images for? Is that only for 64-bit? and are you only talking about EMI?

    because the game asks for it to be inserted in order to play (unless you have a no-cd patch.) obviously.

    I only mentioned EMI because CMI on my machine is currently only set up to use with ScummVM. I can set it up to work without it, but haven't yet so I can't confirm CMI's updated installer/launcher works the same as EMI's, as stated in my previous post.

    edit: *sigh*. let me demonstrate.

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    edit: yes, same goes for CMI.
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    It doesn't ask for this for either game after I installed a no-cd patch.
  • edited June 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    I have Windows 7 64-bit, and can confirm (I just checked) that EMI works just fine with the updated installer even without using the updated launcher. You can use the old launcher "Monkey.exe", the new launcher "emi launcher.exe" or the actual game "monkey4.exe". Any of them work. I haven't just now confirmed CMI does, as I have it set up to use ScummVM

    However, it seems that you do have to use the CD's or CD Images for the games, unless you have installed a no-cd patch.

    Could be just Vista 64 that needs the launcher, then.

    I assume a virtual drive will be enough to fool the netbook into thinking the CDs are there if need be. Shouldn't be too much of a pain if she's installing that way in the first place.
  • edited June 2010
    Now I understand why I have ScummVM running CMI.

    Windows 7 screws with CMI's colors unless you create a script/batch file that ends the explorer.exe process before running the game. Using the new launcher, the old one or the game executable doesn't matter.

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    please pardon the camera flash. taking a normal screenshot without my camera didn't work properly.

    The new launcher does have a checkbox that can be marked that is labeled "Run CMI from Hard drive," which then makes CMI not need cd's/images to run the game. However, if you download a no-cd patch from the net, you can use the game executable or the old launcher just the same. In any case, with Windows 7 you still have to end the explorer.exe process before running the game and start it again afterward (easiest to make a .bat file for this) if you want the colors to work properly.

    ...or you can use ScummVM and be done with it. Under ScummVM, CMI works perfectly without needing to end the explorer process, and doesn't require cd's inserted during play.
  • edited June 2010
    I would join you all, but I can't find my copies of Secret and LCR... :P
  • edited June 2010
    TomPravetz wrote: »
    I would join you all, but I can't find my copies of Secret and LCR... :P

    =(


    You ought to make CD images of your games. That way you don't misplace them as easily.
  • edited June 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    =(


    You ought to make CD images of your games. That way you don't misplace them as easily.

    I lose things quite often... :P
  • edited June 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    =(


    You ought to make CD images of your games. That way you don't misplace them as easily.

    Are you sure they weren't 5 1/4" or 3,5" disks, and not CD's?
  • edited June 2010
    one can still make an iso image from a set of floppies.
  • edited June 2010
    Chyron8472 wrote: »
    because the game asks for it to be inserted in order to play (unless you have a no-cd patch.) obviously.

    I only mentioned EMI because CMI on my machine is currently only set up to use with ScummVM. I can set it up to work without it, but haven't yet so I can't confirm CMI's updated installer/launcher works the same as EMI's, as stated in my previous post.

    edit: *sigh*. let me demonstrate.

    41000335.png


    edit: yes, same goes for CMI.
    66353412.png


    It doesn't ask for this for either game after I installed a no-cd patch.

    Sorry just got confused, I have COMI set up to run from hardrive on the new launcher, and I forgot that I had added a no cd patch for EMI. So i forgot thats why I didnt need the CDs.
  • edited June 2010
    That sounds like a performance issue. You'd be at a disadvantage that I have no idea how to counter, but you're still welcome to participate if you like. And the dialogue is part of the challenge. Knowing exactly which dialogue options are and aren't necessary is a huge part of finishing the fastest.

    I'll definitely participate then! Just for the fun of it. I may end up only getting to do 3 out of the 5 games, but I'll test the others in the next couple of days.
  • edited June 2010
    prizna wrote:
    Hi,

    Just read your post where you mentioned the colours that get screwed up in COMI on windows 7 if you dont end the explorer.exe process.

    I have vista but do get the screwed up colours sometimes, if its not to much trouble can you let me know how to create a script/batch file that ends the explorer.exe process before running COMI, and where the file should be placed after it is created?

    thanks,
    Daniel


    1) Create a new file in your CMI game folder and name it whatever you like, except put .bat or .cmd at the end.

    2) Open the file in Notepad and insert the following:
    taskkill /f /IM explorer.exe
    comi.exe
    start explorer.exe
    
    3) Change the CMI shortcut you use to run the game with so that it uses this file.
  • edited June 2010
    are we allowed to press h?
  • edited June 2010
    My instinct is to say no, but...

    What do you guys think?
  • edited June 2010
    I think it would be unfair to use hints, the goal of the race is to remember the solutions and solve the puzzles as fast as you can, if everybody uses hints they wouldn't even have to think, just press h several times until it gave you the exact solution.
  • edited June 2010
    Press h? Wow, I didn't even know that gave hints. :p
  • edited June 2010
    Now that I've prepurchased this I'm in for a playthrough. I like to think I've developed a speedy format to finish the game in the fastest way possible. I don't know if I remember it all, though.

    And you guys should be playing CMI in ScummVM. Honestly...and I know the classic save-game menu doesn't work but you can still access it by pressing ALT-F5.
  • edited June 2010
    My instinct is to say no, but...

    What do you guys think?

    I agree. I'd say hints are out.
  • edited June 2010
    No hints.
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