Sorry to further crush this silly Largo theory, but the Telltale people who worked on that hoax years ago are not the sort of people who would have very much influence over high level plot decisions like this
I'm not saying Largo won't appear, I'm just saying there's no evidence at all that he will.
The credits at the end of the game credit her as "Threatening voice" in the cast list.
I think he's asking how does this confirm that the threatening voice is Morgan LeFlay? I saw links to her blog and Twitter saying that it confirmed that the voice was Morgan LeFlay, but never saw any evidence of that...perhaps it was deleted?
I think he's asking how does this confirm that the threatening voice is Morgan LeFlay? I saw links to her blog and Twitter saying that it confirmed that the voice was Morgan LeFlay, but never saw any evidence of that...perhaps it was deleted?
it must have been deleted. havent checked recently but when the link was posted last week on this thread, Nicki Rapp said that she was excited about her role as Morgan le Flay. or something along those lines
Well, I thought the sex-change thing was funny, but I don't really take it seriously. There ARE a few women with motives to go after Guybrush, but the one that is referred to four or five times in ToMI is his mother-in-law. Its almost like they're foreshadowing . . .
As for Kate, they portray her as a very spunky girl whom you could very easily see chasing someone down for revenge. But as has been mentionned in the past, her motive is shaky, unless Guybrush did something to anger her in the meantime or she realized he was the one that set her up. (which is very possible considering he left the poster up.) That would give her a solid reason to chase him down. Personally, she didn't seem like the type of character that would actually have to have been locked up a long time before becoming mortally offended.
And its hard to ignore that the descriptions of Le Flay given by Nipperkin match Cutthroat Bill and Haggis McMutton perfectly. Clearly, they fit in there somewhere. (Although there are many possibilities about how, exactly this could be). I wouldn't mind seeing Haggis, again. After all, who doesn't love a big tough guy in a skirt?
Well, if we all agree Morgan La Flay is a pseudonym, with the character referencing Morgan Le Fay, would that mean Morgan La Flay is meant to be Guybrush's half-sister? Morgan Le Fay was Arthur's half sister (in some versions his lover as well). Or is she just meant to be a powerful woman who is destined to destroy/help our hero?
Anyway: I'm 100% sure it's not Kate Capsize and really don't know why people keep thinking it's her.
Telltale already said they try to not bring back a lot of characters from previous games, so why bring back a character who merely served as an obstacle to overcome then a plot driven one?
Bringing back Kate Capsize would be like bringing back the cook from the Scumm Bar, also another obstacle character which had no real plot purpose but Guybrush pissed of nonetheless.
I can't help but think you're entirely missing the point. You don't like Kate Capsize, yet if you look at the characters poll from before the game-release, she was one of the most popular characters. Everybody remembers Kate Capsize, she's a memorable character and a good one, unlike the blubbering chef who was only ever good for one thing.
I'm just guessing, but I think it's Morgan Le Flay, and Murray the Talking Skull. The thought is confusing, yes, but there's a reason why I think this:
With Murray confirmed I decided to play TMI again (for the 5th time) just to get to the ending. Morgan Le Flay is most likely a female name, for instance..
Giving the Morgan Le Flay flier to the Voodoo Lady, she will go in a trance
,
and will mention a skull, and there being no escape
. After finishing the game and hearing the mysterious
female
voice, Morgan came to mind.
Murray came later though, although I guessed she meant Murray when she said "Skull".
Murray has become human, as part of the weird voodoo thing that happened to LeChuck, and as a human, he's now got human vocal chords? I really hope not because the best thing about Murray was the voice :P
Or more seriously, I think the Pirate Hunter and Wally are one and the same! I know the voice sounded like woman (a young woman!) but consider..
The sword was held from a low height
The view was from a low height
Wally is one of the greatest characters from previous MI games, in CMI he was just great it would be rather silly not to bring him back!
Wally would have it in for Guybrush.. I think.. was he ever actually at the wedding in CMI? All I remember was him being in the carnival of the damned, guybrush promising to rescue him and not (AGAIN!!) - I think I'll replay CMI :P
AND it wouldn't be the first time Wally took an assumed name, would it? "Blood Nose The Pirate"!!
Either way, new character or not, I'm looking forward to this!!
I'm just guessing, but I think it's Morgan Le Flay, and Murray the Talking Skull. The thought is confusing, yes, but there's a reason why I think this:
With Murray confirmed I decided to play TMI again (for the 5th time) just to get to the ending. Morgan Le Flay is most likely a female name, for instance..
Giving the Morgan Le Flay flier to the Voodoo Lady, she will go in a trance
,
and will mention a skull, and there being no escape
. After finishing the game and hearing the mysterious
female
voice, Morgan came to mind.
Murray came later though, although I guessed she meant Murray when she said "Skull".
The voice the Voodoo lady used when shown the flier sounded nothing like the voice at the end, and Nicki Rapp who plays the mystery woman has apparently said she was playing Morgan le Flay in TOMI.
The more I think about this, and the new TTG contest, the more I think Morgan is an all new character. It makes things a lot easer for TTG to bring a new 'enemy' on board. And why shouldn't they?
The big failing of the Star Wars prequels was that instead of expanding that galaxy, it made it so very much smaller. Everyone was related to everyone else, and it was ridiculous.
I hope Morgan is a new character that will flesh out Guybrush's life (remember we knew nothing about him pre-SMI). But, uhh, if I'm way off base, then I go back to my first post in this thread and guess Carla.
The more I think about this, and the new TTG contest, the more I think Morgan is an all new character. It makes things a lot easer for TTG to bring a new 'enemy' on board. And why shouldn't they?
The big failing of the Star Wars prequels was that instead of expanding that galaxy, it made it so very much smaller. Everyone was related to everyone else, and it was ridiculous.
I hope Morgan is a new character that will flesh out Guybrush's life (remember we knew nothing about him pre-SMI). But, uhh, if I'm way off base, then I go back to my first post in this thread and guess Carla.
I certainly wouldn't be against this, but I think it would be slightly disappointing in some ways. After all, TTG must be aware that by leaving off with the line 'Guybrush Threepwood, I've been waiting a long time for this!' they are setting up expectations for the glorious return of an old character, even if it DOES turn out to be a new character with some sort of history we don't know about. There's there's no reason they couldn't have changed the line to something like 'Guybrush Threepwood, <insert some other comment here>' if they didn't want us expecting an old character to return.
As I say, I'm all for someone new but now that they've made it SEEM like it's a returning character, I'm sort of excited for that...
I don't mind Leflay being an entirely new character at all, but refering to stuff pre SMI would just... well, suck, really.
Guybrush definetely DOESNT need any explanation on what he might have done before the game.
And about what you said on the star wars prequels, you're absolutely right, but does this apply to monkey island ? Sure, the star wars galaxy needs to feel HUGE, but i don't think that's as much relevant here. It is, just not as much.
And the other big reason why those prequels sucked was that they were basically explaining stuff that didn't need to be explain. Darth Vader was an awful lot more interesting when you only knew he had once been a good guy who turned to the dark side, seeing that actually happen litterally killed the character.
So, i'm all for new characters and i wouldn't mind Leflay being one at all, but resorting to "past unknown events" ? Nope. It works well for the whole "fictional MI5" thing, but i don't think it would for this.
That being said, my guess is that it's princess Leia.
I certainly wouldn't be against this, but I think it would be slightly disappointing in some ways. After all, TTG must be aware that by leaving off with the line 'Guybrush Threepwood, I've been waiting a long time for this!' they are setting up expectations for the glorious return of an old character, even if it DOES turn out to be a new character with some sort of history we don't know about. There's there's no reason they couldn't have changed the line to something like 'Guybrush Threepwood, <insert some other comment here>' if they didn't want us expecting an old character to return.
As I say, I'm all for someone new but now that they've made it SEEM like it's a returning character, I'm sort of excited for that...
Well i think it might could be Carla as the Pirat Hunter which would be a good idea.
Otherwise maybe the Pirate Hunter heared about the famous adventures of Guybrush Threepwood Mighty Pirat™ and wants to mess up with him as big catch. Im very excited about it :rolleyes:
The more I think about this, and the new TTG contest, the more I think Morgan is an all new character. It makes things a lot easer for TTG to bring a new 'enemy' on board. And why shouldn't they?
The more I think about it, I think it has to do with "The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood"
I did too, but if you look at the poster I Quoted in that post, they thought that the person weilding the sword was going to be the one accusing the 'Brush.
By the way... have you noticed that the female voice in which Voodoo Lady speaks doesn't match the voice of the woman at the end?
That's because the voice the Voodoo Lady speaks is, well, the Voodoo Lady's voice. That is to say, the actress who does the Voodoo Lady's voice does the voice of Morgan Le Flay when she's being channeled by the Voodoo Lady. It makes sense if you think about it. Morgan Le Flay's voice would sound different coming from the Voodoo Lady's larynx than it would coming from her own larynx. The voice has Morgan Le Flay's accent and inflection and personality but the Voodoo Lady's unique physiological vocal quality. If that makes any sense... I'm having trouble thinking of the proper terminology...
Ok, my first thoughts were also on Kate and I'd love to see her back but, something made me wonder...
Maybe I'm all wrong but (and thanks to put me back on track if needed)... does Kate exists at all ? I mean in MI 2, from what I thought I understood, the whole Big Whoop episode is a kind of dream/childplay of Guybrush and his brother. Did this episode ''really'' happened in the storyline ?
Ok, my first thoughts were also on Kate and I'd love to see her back but, something made me wonder...
Maybe I'm all wrong but (and thanks to put me back on track if needed)... does Kate exists at all ? I mean in MI 2, from what I thought I understood, the whole Big Whoop episode is a kind of dream/childplay of Guybrush and his brother. Did this episode ''really'' happened in the storyline ?
I could be wrong, but I always thought that
it was just the end that was sort of that "spell" or whatever you want to call it. Like it happened sometime after he fell in there, or something like that. After all, you do see Elaine still waiting, so I assume everything but the end was real. Besides, in MI3 LeChuck talks about throwing Guybrush in his evil carnival, but he never talks about anything earlier than that being his doing. I almost thought that once LeChuck saw things not going his way he pulls that spell out to turn the tables. Or he lured Guybrush down there to put that "spell" on him.
I'm lead to believe it's Kate Capsize. After all there aren't that many women actually in Monkey Island and I feel it'll be a character from the past.
To be honest the eventual reveal won't be much of a shocker if it's a completely new character...and from a story telling perspective there's not much to speculate on if it isn't a face from the past, since you're then given a choice of either 'Morgan Le Fay' or random new character...a bit dull after a month's wait and I don't think the writers are going for that...?
I also think it's a stong possibility that 'Morgan' is an alias for a returning character from the old games which then begs the question: Who would want to become a pirate hunter?
I'm less inclined to think it's Carla simply because she didn't really have any unfinished business with Guybrush in Escape From Monkey Island (from what I remember) to then randomly hunt him down.
Also assuming the mysterious voice does belong to 'Morgan Le Fay' I wouldn't have thought it likely that Carla would become a pirate hunter seeing as she's lived among pirates her whole life...at least that's the impression i'm given. Kate on the other hand I could see...
Of course this is all speculation and i'm still hoping for a cheap chuckle at the reveal of a teenage Kenny Falmouth
Ok, my first thoughts were also on Kate and I'd love to see her back but, something made me wonder...
Maybe I'm all wrong but (and thanks to put me back on track if needed)... does Kate exists at all ? I mean in MI 2, from what I thought I understood, the whole Big Whoop episode is a kind of dream/childplay of Guybrush and his brother. Did this episode ''really'' happened in the storyline ?
If MI2 didn't really happen, neither did the rest of the series. We can assume that if the ending of MI2 dragged Li'l Guybrush back to reality, that he simply went back to his imaginary world for MI3 onward.
* Game is MI2 inspired
* Easy to bring back as their is no prior voice
* Easy to explain backstory - more baggage with Carla (I see this as a C v. K v. New Character set of choices)
* Kate handed out leaflets - so did Morgan Leflay
* You imprisoned Kate and she could have an outstanding grudge on you - IIRC she does remark about looking for who got her locked up
- You put her face on the poster for YOUR crimes - see the title of episode 4 (the poster might have inspired part of the plot)
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Just take a seat, we'll have that off in no time at all...:eek:
she might have just been polite and took the flower it dont meen she wants to launch lechucks screaming narwal
I mean, there are a million angles you could go with that. You have pirate AND zombie puns to go off of. Seriously.
I'm not saying Largo won't appear, I'm just saying there's no evidence at all that he will.
The credits at the end of the game credit her as "Threatening voice" in the cast list.
I think he's asking how does this confirm that the threatening voice is Morgan LeFlay? I saw links to her blog and Twitter saying that it confirmed that the voice was Morgan LeFlay, but never saw any evidence of that...perhaps it was deleted?
I'm saying that it's evidence they didn't forget about him
it must have been deleted. havent checked recently but when the link was posted last week on this thread, Nicki Rapp said that she was excited about her role as Morgan le Flay. or something along those lines
Transvestites and sex-changed people are two different things.
hugo was selling perfume so he could afford a sex change
As for Kate, they portray her as a very spunky girl whom you could very easily see chasing someone down for revenge. But as has been mentionned in the past, her motive is shaky, unless Guybrush did something to anger her in the meantime or she realized he was the one that set her up. (which is very possible considering he left the poster up.) That would give her a solid reason to chase him down. Personally, she didn't seem like the type of character that would actually have to have been locked up a long time before becoming mortally offended.
And its hard to ignore that the descriptions of Le Flay given by Nipperkin match Cutthroat Bill and Haggis McMutton perfectly. Clearly, they fit in there somewhere. (Although there are many possibilities about how, exactly this could be). I wouldn't mind seeing Haggis, again. After all, who doesn't love a big tough guy in a skirt?
I thought the same.... Carla never entered my mind, dunno why
I can't help but think you're entirely missing the point. You don't like Kate Capsize, yet if you look at the characters poll from before the game-release, she was one of the most popular characters. Everybody remembers Kate Capsize, she's a memorable character and a good one, unlike the blubbering chef who was only ever good for one thing.
With Murray confirmed I decided to play TMI again (for the 5th time) just to get to the ending. Morgan Le Flay is most likely a female name, for instance..
Murray came later though, although I guessed she meant Murray when she said "Skull".
Murray has become human, as part of the weird voodoo thing that happened to LeChuck, and as a human, he's now got human vocal chords? I really hope not because the best thing about Murray was the voice :P
Or more seriously, I think the Pirate Hunter and Wally are one and the same! I know the voice sounded like woman (a young woman!) but consider..
The sword was held from a low height
The view was from a low height
Wally is one of the greatest characters from previous MI games, in CMI he was just great it would be rather silly not to bring him back!
Wally would have it in for Guybrush.. I think.. was he ever actually at the wedding in CMI? All I remember was him being in the carnival of the damned, guybrush promising to rescue him and not (AGAIN!!) - I think I'll replay CMI :P
AND it wouldn't be the first time Wally took an assumed name, would it? "Blood Nose The Pirate"!!
Either way, new character or not, I'm looking forward to this!!
The voice the Voodoo lady used when shown the flier sounded nothing like the voice at the end, and Nicki Rapp who plays the mystery woman has apparently said she was playing Morgan le Flay in TOMI.
The big failing of the Star Wars prequels was that instead of expanding that galaxy, it made it so very much smaller. Everyone was related to everyone else, and it was ridiculous.
I hope Morgan is a new character that will flesh out Guybrush's life (remember we knew nothing about him pre-SMI). But, uhh, if I'm way off base, then I go back to my first post in this thread and guess Carla.
I certainly wouldn't be against this, but I think it would be slightly disappointing in some ways. After all, TTG must be aware that by leaving off with the line 'Guybrush Threepwood, I've been waiting a long time for this!' they are setting up expectations for the glorious return of an old character, even if it DOES turn out to be a new character with some sort of history we don't know about. There's there's no reason they couldn't have changed the line to something like 'Guybrush Threepwood, <insert some other comment here>' if they didn't want us expecting an old character to return.
As I say, I'm all for someone new but now that they've made it SEEM like it's a returning character, I'm sort of excited for that...
Guybrush definetely DOESNT need any explanation on what he might have done before the game.
And about what you said on the star wars prequels, you're absolutely right, but does this apply to monkey island ? Sure, the star wars galaxy needs to feel HUGE, but i don't think that's as much relevant here. It is, just not as much.
And the other big reason why those prequels sucked was that they were basically explaining stuff that didn't need to be explain. Darth Vader was an awful lot more interesting when you only knew he had once been a good guy who turned to the dark side, seeing that actually happen litterally killed the character.
So, i'm all for new characters and i wouldn't mind Leflay being one at all, but resorting to "past unknown events" ? Nope. It works well for the whole "fictional MI5" thing, but i don't think it would for this.
That being said, my guess is that it's princess Leia.
Well i think it might could be Carla as the Pirat Hunter which would be a good idea.
Otherwise maybe the Pirate Hunter heared about the famous adventures of Guybrush Threepwood Mighty Pirat™ and wants to mess up with him as big catch. Im very excited about it :rolleyes:
The more I think about it, I think it has to do with "The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood"
Can anyone else imagine Guybrush carrying out a POTC style escape from a hangman's noose?
I thought that was obvious.
I did too, but if you look at the poster I Quoted in that post, they thought that the person weilding the sword was going to be the one accusing the 'Brush.
Morgan Le Fay was King Arthurs sworn enemy. A female. Whoever sent them leaflets was trying to make herself seem strong. Most likely a work name.
To add to the air of mystery, no doubt... adds to the drama.
That's because the voice the Voodoo Lady speaks is, well, the Voodoo Lady's voice. That is to say, the actress who does the Voodoo Lady's voice does the voice of Morgan Le Flay when she's being channeled by the Voodoo Lady. It makes sense if you think about it. Morgan Le Flay's voice would sound different coming from the Voodoo Lady's larynx than it would coming from her own larynx. The voice has Morgan Le Flay's accent and inflection and personality but the Voodoo Lady's unique physiological vocal quality. If that makes any sense... I'm having trouble thinking of the proper terminology...
Maybe I'm all wrong but (and thanks to put me back on track if needed)... does Kate exists at all ? I mean in MI 2, from what I thought I understood, the whole Big Whoop episode is a kind of dream/childplay of Guybrush and his brother. Did this episode ''really'' happened in the storyline ?
I could be wrong, but I always thought that
To be honest the eventual reveal won't be much of a shocker if it's a completely new character...and from a story telling perspective there's not much to speculate on if it isn't a face from the past, since you're then given a choice of either 'Morgan Le Fay' or random new character...a bit dull after a month's wait and I don't think the writers are going for that...?
I also think it's a stong possibility that 'Morgan' is an alias for a returning character from the old games which then begs the question: Who would want to become a pirate hunter?
I'm less inclined to think it's Carla simply because she didn't really have any unfinished business with Guybrush in Escape From Monkey Island (from what I remember) to then randomly hunt him down.
Also assuming the mysterious voice does belong to 'Morgan Le Fay' I wouldn't have thought it likely that Carla would become a pirate hunter seeing as she's lived among pirates her whole life...at least that's the impression i'm given.
Of course this is all speculation and i'm still hoping for a cheap chuckle at the reveal of a teenage Kenny Falmouth
* Game is MI2 inspired
* Easy to bring back as their is no prior voice
* Easy to explain backstory - more baggage with Carla (I see this as a C v. K v. New Character set of choices)
* Kate handed out leaflets - so did Morgan Leflay
* You imprisoned Kate and she could have an outstanding grudge on you - IIRC she does remark about looking for who got her locked up
- You put her face on the poster for YOUR crimes - see the title of episode 4 (the poster might have inspired part of the plot)
Not that I'm saying your wrong, but what do you have to back this up? Seems it draws from all the games, not one in particular.