I initially thought it was Kate Capsize.. But now I'm not so sure... It could be Wally? It could be someone new..
I kinda hope it is Kate, though.. Why?
1. Would be nice to see her again after all these years! ;P
2. That voice don't suit Wally and don't share any similarities with the CMI voice of Wally. Knowing Telltale, they would get the original voiceactor or get someone similar.
When you show it to the Voodoo Lady, though, and she goes into the trance, her voice clearly changes to the same voice you hear at the end of the game.
Woah woah woah, details on that? What exactly does she say? Is there a recording of that?
[EDIT] Never mind, I went to look myself. Here's a transcript of what her vision says:
Guybrush Threepwood, there's no escape! The skull is right... you! Arrrrgh!
But I must say, it doesn't sound like the voice at the end of the first episode in my opinion.
....Pegnose Pete? .....Largo LaGrande?..... Yeah, I have no idea.
It most certainly could be Pegnose Pete and would fit in with my theory on -everyone- that Guybrush has wronged in the past being Morgan le Flay. Like they all banded together to vow to hunt him down, and maybe try to cause an end to piracy at the same time.
I also think it'd fit in nicely for Episode 4 "The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood." Having all his old "friends" come back to tell about all the horrible things Guybrush had done to them.
Why are people saying Kate capsize.. im sure guybrush did something to her... cant remember what but it just wouldnt make sense if he didnt
Can someone fill me in
He put up her picture as being "Guybrush, wanted pirate" on Phatt Island in MI2. Forcing her to get locked up in jail with no escape, while Guybrush came in to steal all her near grog.
Considering Phatt Island was run by a gluttonous governor and a stupid guard, I'm sure she was left there for quite a few years.
He put up her picture as being "Guybrush, wanted pirate" on Phatt Island in MI2. Forcing her to get locked up in jail with no escape, while Guybrush came in to steal all her near grog.
Considering Phatt Island was run by a gluttonous governor and a stupid guard, I'm sure she was left there for quite a few years.
Unless you use the key you used to free yourself to get her free, which I think you can do. (But who would do that, lol.. ?)
Yeah, you can set her free, so it's debatable whether or not she really has a bone to pick with Guybrush.
I didn't know that. Guess I never cared to try. I guess it's one of those situations where the diverging paths of adventure games causes one situation to be canon and one to be not canon (such as in Secret of Monkey Island where you could end up going back with your crew if you don't sink your ship, or going with Herman if you do. Escape treats going back with Herman the canon ending.)
The glassblower also mentions his (Morgan's) face being hideously grotesque that some pirates would slit their own throats, but I can't think of anyone that relates to either.
Cut throat
Cutthroat Bill.
And there was another description that lead someone to believe it was Haggis, and seeing as I do not remember the other descriptions, I think it's fair to say that perhaps Le Fay is actually more than one person. Maybe he's the pirate Quartet, just making a living, and having absolutely nothing to do with our mystery pirate at the end.
My guess on the ending pirate, that could be tough. I need to hear her voice again, but here's what I believe are the possibilities:
Miss Rivers. Not sure why no one's mentioned her. She doesn't like pirates, tries to re-educate them, and is rather short. I'm not sure if the voice fits.
Kate Capsize, like everyone else has been saying, but seeing as I never played the second one, I have no idea if there is serious motive for revenge or not.
Things I'm throwing out:
Wally. He's short, and he has a high pitched voice, but assuming that they got the same voice actor for him, I seriously doubt it's him. That, and the voice is much, much too feminine for his replacement.
Carla. She has no reason to want revenge from him. She has a cushy government job now. That, and assuming it's the same voice actresses, it's not the same voice.
I also thought of the harbor mistress from Escape as well, but didn't think she had much motive for revenge. She is short, though.
Other female characters I could find were:
The Lulu Bar Waitress
Minnie Goodsoup
Guybrush's mom (oh, that'd be a riot)
Brittany (EFMI)
Madame Xima (CMI)
Elayne (Planet Threepwood)
Miss Daisy? (I can't remember who this is, but apparently was in EFMI)
...Hideous Pirate (CMI)? Nah.
And there was another description that lead someone to believe it was Haggis, and seeing as I do not remember the other descriptions, I think it's fair to say that perhaps Le Fay is actually more than one person.
Haggis is referenced because Nipperkin refers to one story saying "A giant with a red beard"
Nipperkin also references "a peg legged midget" which could also refer to Cutthroat Bill.
It cannot be Carla. First, Guybrush has apologized and gave both her and Otis jobs. Second, It doesn't sound like Carla at all. Third, if she wanted revenge after the "Monkey Island incident", she could have just killed Guybrush on Meleé Island back in EMI...
I definitively think it's Kate Capsize because she got a pretty good reason to be upset with Guybroch and she has sworn revenge on him... Sure, in MI2, she never found out that Guybrush was the responsible for her imprisonment, but she could have later... During CMI maybe?
PLUS: This game is similar to MI2 (Guybrush coat etc, etc)
You guys don't think everything the pirates say about Morgan is a load of crap? It's clearly all just rumors, that even Guybrush shoots down as ridiculous. The only TRUE thing we know about Morgan is what the Voodoo Lady says, in someone else's voice.
"Guybrush Threepwood... There is no escape... The skull is right... You! Arrrrggg!!"
From the past or future, we don't know. It sounded like Carla's voice, really.
And maybe Telltale was referencing those pirates when writing those descriptions, but I HIGHLY doubt one of the singing pirates is Morgan.
Nipperkin, Hemlock, and the glassblower all refer to Morgan as a he.
The Voodoo Lady in her trance takes on a female voice (which I think matches the one at the end of the episode), and I haven't shown it to Marquis de Singe, yet. I should go do that now.
It's clearly Britany the bank teller hell bent on revenge after Guybrush lost her her job and she didn't break into show business.
It's interesting when you think about it. There really aren't that many female characters.
Yeah, you can't show it to de Singe, but I did show it to Winslow and D'Oro.
Winslow mentions a pirate with "Trained scorpions in his beard" which doesn't refer to -anyone- that I can think of.
D'Oro mentions "his suspenders are made from the severed hooks of his pirate prey" which makes me think of Meathook, I'm pretty sure he was wearing suspenders in Escape, but I don't think he has any reason to have a grudge against Guybrush after taking up wax painting.
I also think it'd fit in nicely for Episode 4 "The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood." Having all his old "friends" come back to tell about all the horrible things Guybrush had done to them.
I agree that that many cameos would be fun. However, Nipperkin himself suggests that it's either a group of Morgan le Flays running around, or "someone's hiding something."
I'm starting to think it's just Kate Capesize, though. The pirates don't want to admit they were beaten by her so they covered it up with tall tales. On second thought, who'd lie about getting beat up by a midget with a peg leg?
I agree that that many cameos would be fun. However, Nipperkin himself suggests that it's either a group of Morgan le Flays running around, or "someone's hiding something."
I'm starting to think it's just Kate Capesize, though. The pirates don't want to admit they were beaten by her so they covered it up with tall tales. On second thought, who'd lie about getting beat up by a midget with a peg leg?
In any case, Morgan was summoned to the island by the Marquis, and clearly made it on board Guybrush's ship in the cliffhanger, the fact that Morgan knows Guybrush and wants revenge just makes it all too clear to me that it's Kate, she's the only one who has sworn revenge on him.
In any case, Morgan was summoned to the island by the Marquis, and clearly made it on board Guybrush's ship in the cliffhanger, the fact that Morgan knows Guybrush and wants revenge just makes it all too clear to me that it's Kate, she's the only one who has sworn revenge on him.
Again, we don't know if the mystery sword-wielder is Morgan. He/she may be, but we can't tell at this point. Maybe Kate is the mystery person, and Morgan is someone else. Maybe Kate is Morgan, but the mystery person is someone else.
I think it's Kate Capsize, it would just make sense. After all, she's waited a long time and last we saw her she was getting locked up on Phatt Island. Believe that was Guybrush's doing.
I'm going all in, I'm putting all my chips on Kate Capsize, no doubt at all. Carla didn't even occur to me, because "waited so long" isn't consistent with a character who appeared as recently as Escape. Kate fits perfectly, and they'd only need to do a tiny bit of recap to fill out that back-story.
I might be wrong about the Wally thing. Everyone here seems to remember a woman's voice, but I don't. I need to go back a replay it, look for more Morgan hints, and rewatch the ending.
The way the sword was held to Guybrush looked like the person was very short. Did anyone else see this? It looked like the sword was being held up to him, from below. This was a major factor in me thinking it to be Wally.
I assumed the angle was forced by Guybrush being up by the wheel and the sword holder down the spiral staircase a bit.
It's clearly Britany the bank teller hell bent on revenge after Guybrush lost her her job and she didn't break into show business.
It's interesting when you think about it. There really aren't that many female characters.
LOL I was going to say that too. It could also be Guybrush's mother-in-law lol. But it's probably Kate or Carla, I seriously doubt that it's Wally.
It most certainly could be Pegnose Pete and would fit in with my theory on -everyone- that Guybrush has wronged in the past being Morgan le Flay. Like they all banded together to vow to hunt him down, and maybe try to cause an end to piracy at the same time.
I also think it'd fit in nicely for Episode 4 "The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood." Having all his old "friends" come back to tell about all the horrible things Guybrush had done to them.
I think it's a female piranha poodle. De Singe's mad experiments gave her some kind of human form, and she seeks revenge for having been poisoned in SoMI.
With 8 years since Escape there's plenty of time. All we really know is it's a female character (unless there's a cheap voice synth joke). In that time even characters with nothing against Guybrush could have developed a grudge. I'd like to think it's Kate as that would be a great reference back, but Telltale do very few references to previous games. I'm guessing it actually will be a new character.
I think it's a female piranha poodle. De Singe's mad experiments gave her some kind of human form, and she seeks revenge for having be poisoned in SoMI.
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I kinda hope it is Kate, though.. Why?
1. Would be nice to see her again after all these years! ;P
2. That voice don't suit Wally and don't share any similarities with the CMI voice of Wally. Knowing Telltale, they would get the original voiceactor or get someone similar.
Woah woah woah, details on that? What exactly does she say? Is there a recording of that?
[EDIT] Never mind, I went to look myself. Here's a transcript of what her vision says:
Guybrush Threepwood, there's no escape! The skull is right... you! Arrrrgh!
But I must say, it doesn't sound like the voice at the end of the first episode in my opinion.
it had to be the sword master
It most certainly could be Pegnose Pete and would fit in with my theory on -everyone- that Guybrush has wronged in the past being Morgan le Flay. Like they all banded together to vow to hunt him down, and maybe try to cause an end to piracy at the same time.
I also think it'd fit in nicely for Episode 4 "The Trial and Execution of Guybrush Threepwood." Having all his old "friends" come back to tell about all the horrible things Guybrush had done to them.
The person at the end was morgan le flay
but M.L.F is someone we already know
Why are people saying Kate capsize.. im sure guybrush did something to her... cant remember what but it just wouldnt make sense if he didnt
Can someone fill me in
He put up her picture as being "Guybrush, wanted pirate" on Phatt Island in MI2. Forcing her to get locked up in jail with no escape, while Guybrush came in to steal all her near grog.
Considering Phatt Island was run by a gluttonous governor and a stupid guard, I'm sure she was left there for quite a few years.
Unless you use the key you used to free yourself to get her free, which I think you can do. (But who would do that, lol.. ?)
I didn't know that. Guess I never cared to try. I guess it's one of those situations where the diverging paths of adventure games causes one situation to be canon and one to be not canon (such as in Secret of Monkey Island where you could end up going back with your crew if you don't sink your ship, or going with Herman if you do. Escape treats going back with Herman the canon ending.)
She never learns who you are in the game. After setting her free she vows revenge against him (not knowing he just freed her) as she storms out.
Cutthroat Bill.
And there was another description that lead someone to believe it was Haggis, and seeing as I do not remember the other descriptions, I think it's fair to say that perhaps Le Fay is actually more than one person. Maybe he's the pirate Quartet, just making a living, and having absolutely nothing to do with our mystery pirate at the end.
My guess on the ending pirate, that could be tough. I need to hear her voice again, but here's what I believe are the possibilities:
Miss Rivers. Not sure why no one's mentioned her. She doesn't like pirates, tries to re-educate them, and is rather short. I'm not sure if the voice fits.
Kate Capsize, like everyone else has been saying, but seeing as I never played the second one, I have no idea if there is serious motive for revenge or not.
Things I'm throwing out:
Wally. He's short, and he has a high pitched voice, but assuming that they got the same voice actor for him, I seriously doubt it's him. That, and the voice is much, much too feminine for his replacement.
Carla. She has no reason to want revenge from him. She has a cushy government job now. That, and assuming it's the same voice actresses, it's not the same voice.
I also thought of the harbor mistress from Escape as well, but didn't think she had much motive for revenge. She is short, though.
Other female characters I could find were:
The Lulu Bar Waitress
Minnie Goodsoup
Guybrush's mom (oh, that'd be a riot)
Brittany (EFMI)
Madame Xima (CMI)
Elayne (Planet Threepwood)
Miss Daisy? (I can't remember who this is, but apparently was in EFMI)
...Hideous Pirate (CMI)? Nah.
Haggis is referenced because Nipperkin refers to one story saying "A giant with a red beard"
Nipperkin also references "a peg legged midget" which could also refer to Cutthroat Bill.
I definitively think it's Kate Capsize because she got a pretty good reason to be upset with Guybroch and she has sworn revenge on him... Sure, in MI2, she never found out that Guybrush was the responsible for her imprisonment, but she could have later... During CMI maybe?
PLUS: This game is similar to MI2 (Guybrush coat etc, etc)
because that would be a bit weird
"Guybrush Threepwood... There is no escape... The skull is right... You! Arrrrggg!!"
From the past or future, we don't know. It sounded like Carla's voice, really.
And maybe Telltale was referencing those pirates when writing those descriptions, but I HIGHLY doubt one of the singing pirates is Morgan.
tooooooooo unpredictable
Nipperkin, Hemlock, and the glassblower all refer to Morgan as a he.
The Voodoo Lady in her trance takes on a female voice (which I think matches the one at the end of the episode), and I haven't shown it to Marquis de Singe, yet. I should go do that now.
Unless when he's aiming his wind gun at you, but I doubt you can.
It's interesting when you think about it. There really aren't that many female characters.
Winslow mentions a pirate with "Trained scorpions in his beard" which doesn't refer to -anyone- that I can think of.
D'Oro mentions "his suspenders are made from the severed hooks of his pirate prey" which makes me think of Meathook, I'm pretty sure he was wearing suspenders in Escape, but I don't think he has any reason to have a grudge against Guybrush after taking up wax painting.
its santa clause from the picture !!!!!!!!
I'm starting to think it's just Kate Capesize, though. The pirates don't want to admit they were beaten by her so they covered it up with tall tales. On second thought, who'd lie about getting beat up by a midget with a peg leg?
In any case, Morgan was summoned to the island by the Marquis, and clearly made it on board Guybrush's ship in the cliffhanger, the fact that Morgan knows Guybrush and wants revenge just makes it all too clear to me that it's Kate, she's the only one who has sworn revenge on him.
Again, we don't know if the mystery sword-wielder is Morgan. He/she may be, but we can't tell at this point. Maybe Kate is the mystery person, and Morgan is someone else. Maybe Kate is Morgan, but the mystery person is someone else.
I assumed the angle was forced by Guybrush being up by the wheel and the sword holder down the spiral staircase a bit.
I like this theory
That's so far fetched that I like it