[Spoilers] Speculation on the cliffhanger

145791014

Comments

  • edited July 2009
    # Chapter 2: The Siege of Spinner Cay

    Cay-t capsize :D
  • edited July 2009
    hamzie wrote: »
    # Chapter 2: The Siege of Spinner Cay

    Cay-t capsize :D

    :eek:

    damn, ive only gone and convinced myself that Kate is the ONLY possible option! bad move as I may end up disappointed. Must remember it could be someone new (someone new makes no sense from the last line)... so its DEFINATELY kate!
  • edited July 2009
    Its settled then

    Cay-T Capsize it is :D

    AHOY FOR SOLVING THE MYSTERY BEFORE EPI 2 !!!!!!!!!!!

    (1 month later... oh.. so it wasn't her....)
  • edited July 2009
    I think the title of episode two could have a special or double meaning...
    • To siege, the action of an armed force that surrounds a fortified place and isolates it while continuing to attack.

    • Spinner, fisherman lure, a technique used to entice the fish to bite.

    • Lure, qualities that attract by seeming to promise some kind of reward.

    • A cay (also spelled key or quay; pronounced as "key" IPA: /kiː/) is a small, low-elevation, sandy island formed on the surface of coral reefs. ...
  • edited July 2009
    I think we will eliminate one possibility next week when get SMI:SE. If they used a new voice actor/actress (different from the one in EMI) then we will compare the voices, and then we will mostly likely know whether or not it is
    Carla
    .
  • edited July 2009
    Spinner Cay sounds like a place to me
  • edited July 2009
    DeathDeli wrote: »
    I think we will eliminate one possibility next week when get SMI:SE. If they used a new voice actor/actress (different from the one in EMI) then we will compare the voices, and then we will mostly likely know whether or not it is
    Carla
    .

    I heard the voice in the playthrough on justin tv and allthough its a new actress, it sounds quite similar to EMI and nothing like the mystery swordsman/woman!
  • edited July 2009
    DeathDeli wrote: »
    I think we will eliminate one possibility next week when get SMI:SE. If they used a new voice actor/actress (different from the one in EMI) then we will compare the voices, and then we will mostly likely know whether or not it is
    Carla
    .

    The actress who plays the voodoo lady is also Carla in MI:SE if I recall.
  • edited July 2009
    I am also pro-kate (thanks I just made it up :P)

    However a pirate hunter would need to be someone who would be very skilled against people who spend their whole lives training as pirates. Someone maybe a pirate could never beat.

    Also they would have to have been on the island the whole time guybrush was as the fliers were passed out already. However they would have been out of sight, if i remember correctly the only place on Flotsam where pirates would go is Club 41. A bar. A place where an alcoholic would spend all their time until a job came along. (This would also explain the blindfold, to stop him recognising the person in the club)

    They would also have to be on the island as The french guy (forgot his name already) would have to go and talk to her and seeing as he cannot leave the island the pirate hunter must be already on it.

    Someone like Carla. Carla matches both these points and is a similar size to guybrish so I think she is still a possibility.
  • edited July 2009
    guybrush along with other people were blindfolded in club 41 anyways
  • edited July 2009
    fwed1 wrote: »
    I am also pro-kate (thanks I just made it up :P)

    However a pirate hunter would need to be someone who would be very skilled against people who spend their whole lives training as pirates. Someone maybe a pirate could never beat.

    Also they would have to have been on the island the whole time guybrush was as the fliers were passed out already. However they would have been out of sight, if i remember correctly the only place on Flotsam where pirates would go is Club 41. A bar. A place where an alcoholic would spend all their time until a job came along.

    They would also have to be on the island as The french guy (forgot his name already) would have to go and talk to her and seeing as he cannot leave the island the pirate hunter must be already on it.

    Someone like Carla. Carla matches both these points and is a similar size to guybrish so I think she is still a possibility.

    I am going to go back now and replay where Guybrush goes in club 41 and see if i recognise her voice.
    Yeah, maybe...I wonder where the Grimstone guy who runs the courthouse went for his vacation though, considering no one can leave the island. It could mean that they can still reach those smaller islands around Flotsam, so the pirate hunter could easily be on one of those, in that case there would be no chance of Guybrush encountering either of them.
    guybrush along with other people were blindfolded in club 41 anyways
    Winslow was on probation at Club 41, only the probationary members wear the blindfold I think.
  • edited July 2009
    but carla hardly has a reason to go to flotsam

    Im thing Kate finally wanted to find the treasure again.. goes to the gulf of flotsam.. wind gets her....... boom

    stuck she is
  • edited July 2009
    hamzie wrote: »
    but carla hardly has a reason to go to flotsam

    Im thing Kate finally wanted to find the treasure again.. goes to the gulf of flotsam.. wind gets her....... boom

    stuck she is

    people didn't go to flotsam they got sucked there
  • edited July 2009
    Ye i know

    We were talking about flotsam.jpg

    Im pretty sure shes talking about finding the treasure

    So Kate went to find the treasure in that area

    And the wind sucked her into Flotsam Island

    But Carla.. i dont see a reason for her to be in the isl

    ye i was right

    so

    When Kate Capsize was first mate on the Limping Limpet they went in search of Big Whoop. They found nothing and the captain died of boredom while they were crossing the Sea of Beige Flotsam.
  • edited July 2009
    ive said this before but i feel carla is a hard cliffhanger to pull off she was given a voice in emi. of course they could change it but that seems very cheap to me and alot of people would feel conned as the voice is really very different. kate fits this cliffhanger perfectly as we havent heard her before
  • edited July 2009
    The Sea of Beige Flotsam =/= Flotsam Island

    Flotsam is a common noun, like chair, if there was a "Chair Island" and someone says "When i was sailing on the sea of broken chairs" he is not talking about "Chair island" (tm)

    Of course, it could be a possibility that the Sea of Beige Flotsam is the sea around that island, but its not a fact or an obvius statement.
  • edited July 2009
    hamzie wrote: »
    And the wind sucked her into Flotsam Island

    Her ship chartering business went to pot on flotsam island thanks to those pesky winds so ended up becoming a pirate hunter!
  • edited July 2009
    hamzie wrote: »
    Ye i know

    We were talking about (pic)
    Im pretty sure shes talking about finding the treasure

    So Kate went to find the treasure in that area

    And the wind sucked her into Flotsam Island

    But Carla.. i dont see a reason for her to be in the isl

    ye i was right

    so

    When Kate Capsize was first mate on the Limping Limpet they went in search of Big Whoop. They found nothing and the captain died of boredom while they were crossing the Sea of Beige Flotsam.

    That quote suggets she was simply crossing the sea not searching for treasure. Like how you cross the hallway to get to the living room you aren't looking for something in the hallway.
  • edited July 2009
    tmsmyth4 wrote: »
    Her ship chartering business went to pot on flotsam island thanks to those pesky winds so ended up becoming a pirate hunter!

    now we're getting somewhere!

    She had tons of fliers for her ship thing and now tons of fliers for pirate hunters
    IGNATIUS
    ANd i know its not the island itself.. but most likely the sea around it
    at thats where she needs to be to get sucked in\
    fwed
    Im just coming up with a possible reason for her to cross that sea.. the reason being to find Big Whoop
    And as shes crossing.. she gets caught in the wind
  • edited July 2009
    the flyer thing is funny but...

    What's the point in deciding to start hunting down pirates when you're basically trapped on an island ?
    Also, De Singe altered the winds at some point (at least, i guess that's what he was doing when you see him gettin out of the door thingie, just after you found it. And at this point, he only decided he wanted to hunt down guybrush's hands, he doesn't know anything about him discovering the wind statue). So i guess ha altered the wind to send out a message to Le Flay or somthing, who MIGHT have arrived before guybrush left the island.
  • edited July 2009
    What ship did D'Oro come on? Kate needs to see a map before you charter her ship, maybe D'Oro showed her the map he got from Stan and they both got washed up on Flotsam island?
  • edited July 2009
    the flyer thing is funny but...

    What's the point in deciding to start hunting down pirates when you're basically trapped on an island ?

    desperation to get a business going

    Newspaper man was desperate for news

    that AWWWWWWWWW MY NOSE dude was desperate.. alphabets.. seriuz?
  • edited July 2009
    hamzie wrote: »
    desperation to get a business going

    Newspaper man was desperate for news

    that AWWWWWWWWW MY NOSE dude was desperate.. alphabets.. seriuz?
    That idea of desperation got me thinking. Since everything is made of whatever washes up on the shore, maybe when Kate's glass bottom boat was wrecked on Flotsam and that's why the guy uses it to make glass models.
  • edited July 2009
    Maybe the woman in the cliffhanger (possibly Kate) has nothing to do with the pirate hunter on the flyers.
  • edited July 2009
    I don't know WHO the person is; but did anyone notice the person had a lisp? This made me think the voice was supposed to sound like a child's voice; which made me immediately think of Wally.
  • edited July 2009
    I don't know WHO the person is; but did anyone notice the person had a lisp? This made me think the voice was supposed to sound like a child's voice; which made me immediately think of Wally.
    The mystery voice doesn't have a lisp, just sounds that way because of the voice compression/quality.

    Mystery voice: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1162753/episode%20one%20voice.mp3
  • edited July 2009
    hamzie wrote: »
    # Chapter 2: The Siege of Spinner Cay

    Cay-t capsize :D


    Hi guys I am from Germany so I might have missed the point here, but where did you get the z in capsize from?

    TMI is soo great, and I also think that it is Kate trying to skewer Guybrush ;-)
    I tried to play around with the letters of her name and her alias a bit, but couldn`t find anything in that direction. So the Cay-t capsize thing would really convince me, but as I said before: where is the Z?
  • edited July 2009
    Some points for Kate theory:
    - You can put Kate to jail on Phatt island. She'll know the name of Guybrush Threepwood, as the guard calls her "Guybrush". If you've already done the Mad Monkey puzzle, you can leave Kate to rott in jail.
    - All the jail plot is connected with bounty on Guybrush head. We can speculate, that Kate came to some agreement with Govenor Phatt and decided to do bounty hunting job for him (to get her revange and to collect some money).
    - Kate is only side character Guybrush finds sexualy atractive. If Ron Gilbert was a consultant on ToMI plot and he doesn't like Guybrush - Elaine marriage, there's another reason to bring Kate back.
    - Kate and Le Fay both uses fliers to advertise their services.

    And a conclusion - it seems they want to make another villian. LeChuck doesn't look too evil in the final scene - he looks a bit embaressed with all this (look at his face when he's giving the flower to Elaine). If all LeChuck's evil spread around the world, is there any left in him? Maybe he'll be a nice guy now?
  • edited July 2009
    sturm wrote: »
    Hi guys I am from Germany so I might have missed the point here, but where did you get the z in capsize from?
    Her name. :cool:

    http://miwiki.net/Kate_Capsize
  • edited July 2009
    ^^
    Well but wasn`t hamzie playing around with the letters of the second episode, and trying reassemble them in this way: "cay-t capsize"
    so I wonder where the z comes from
  • edited July 2009
    sturm wrote: »
    ^^
    Well but wasn`t hamzie playing around with the letters of the second episode, and trying reassemble them in this way: "cay-t capsize"
    so I wonder where the z comes from

    Naw, he was just saying that if you added a t to the end of "cay" it sounds like "Kate".
  • edited July 2009
    ah ok , now I got it. Thanks ;-)
  • edited July 2009
    I don't think the voice actor has anything to do with who the person could be. Carla had only one voice actor and she could've decided she didn't want to play her again or telltale just hired another person.
    Kate would have a good reason to hunt down Guybrush but also as someone said before, Carla could know that the pox was Guybrush's doing and hunt him down too.
    Also, she could have probably figured out that the cushy government job he promised her and Otis in EMI was all just a ruse to get them to be in his crew and they were never going to get those jobs even if Elaine did sign the papers.
  • edited July 2009
    Oh, and didn't he forget Carla, Meathook, and Otis once again on Monkey Island... or one of those Islands he went to in EMI?
  • edited July 2009
    larino87 wrote: »
    Oh, and didn't he forget Carla, Meathook, and Otis once again on Monkey Island... or one of those Islands he went to in EMI?

    Nope, they returned safely to Melee and then Ozzy and LeChuck personally dropped Guybrush off alone on Monkey Island.
  • edited July 2009
    Fausk wrote: »
    Nope, they returned safely to Melee and then Ozzy and LeChuck personally dropped Guybrush off alone on Monkey Island.

    Okay, I remember now. Thanks, I haven't played that game in forever
  • edited July 2009
    I think we need some pro-kate and pro-carla banners made up ;>.> I do think it's Kate also.

    It could all be a cruel joke tho :P I'm reminded of one of The Simpson's clip-shows. Every commercial break instead of actually writing a clever out they just had Snake bust through the window with a gun and when they came back he just left (stating he had the wrong house)

    I do like the love...er..quadrangle possibility with Kate Guybrush Elaine and LeChuck
  • edited July 2009
    What about pro-Wally banners? ;_;

    I'm still pulling for ya, Wally!
  • edited July 2009
    Niterain wrote: »
    What about pro-Wally banners? ;_;

    I'm still pulling for ya, Wally!
    I dunno man! When I listen to the voice again, it could be a male child's voice, it just doesn't sound like his voice in CoMI.

    In Monkey 2 and Curse, Wally always calls Guybrush 'Mr.Brush' or 'Mr.Wood'.
  • edited July 2009
    I think we've scientifically proven it can't be Wally.

    A.) The voice is far too feminine, people are arguing that it sounds like a young male but Wally is only a year or two younger than Guybrush or even the same age (he might be older who knows?) even if he has a small body that wouldn't make his voice younger

    2.) The assailant's eye level is on level or above Guybrush's and we all know Wally is far too short.

    III.)Even if Wally was angry at Guybrush Wally isn't a killer at heart (Proven from CMI "I just can't do it") and even if Guybrush abandoned Wally in the explosion and Wally survived (Like in MI 2) Wally wouldn't hold a grudge over that it's just not in his nature (Also proven in CMI when Wally didn't hold a grudge from LeChuck's palace)
Sign in to comment in this discussion.