The fact that she outright told us that they've barely started recordings and that the most likely release date is March-April is probably more news than we'll hear from TellTale until February at the earliest.
Massive props to her for not leaving us in agony. This could have been the wait for S2E2 'A House Divided' all over again.
Geez, sounds like Telltale barely had enough money to get the premiere out, possibly explaining why they charged us for 2 one-hour episodes.… more
Also sounds like they haven't done much work on episode 3 at all and are rewriting and cutting content left and right.
Meli sounds really frustrated and unenthusiastic.
I'm honestly SO grateful that she would do the right thing and speak the truth for the sake of the fans, who are being bullshitted left and right by Telltale.
Season 3 doesn't have season 1 writers. They wouldn't be able to kill of Clementine in a good fashion without pissing off everybody. Also not to mention S1 was about Clementine and rising her, not all about Lee.
So if they kill Clementine, it essentially makes season 1 and 2 completely pointless.
The reason they made a season 3 is because they want to make money. The writers are smart enough to know that controversy is a commodity. This season, Javier is the main character, whether you like it or not. He's the guy we're playing as. Let's not kid ourselves here.
She's the main character. Disregarding their little Javier Pet Project they're trying out, the reason they even made a season 3 is because … moreof Clementine. And the reason so many people are playing is for Clementine. She is the main character, playable or not.
While I also loved Lee as a character, he was still kind of a means to an end though, the game was still very much focused around protecting Clem, and killing Lee was the conclusion to that, turning Clem into the person she is today
You gotta imagine how she feels. The voice actors for Kenny and Jane were probably as pissed as she was and Mellisa knew that the flashbacks would be an f you to the fans.
Remember when we waited 119 days for an episode? And then it came out great? And remember when we waited 2 weeks for an episode, and it turned out terrible? Wonder if that's somehow related...
Season 3 doesn't have season 1 writers. They wouldn't be able to kill of Clementine in a good fashion without pissing off everybody. Als… moreo not to mention S1 was about Clementine and rising her, not all about Lee.
So if they kill Clementine, it essentially makes season 1 and 2 completely pointless.
Point? People also love Clem. By the end of the season most people were probably willing to die to save her, whether the game was gonna go in that direction or not. She was just as, or more, important.
These developers need to realize diluting the story by it's marketing "demographic broadening" only serves to harm their own interests.
People that like playing action games will just go and purchase an action game, and certainly don't want to watch action in a pre-rendered "gameplay" segment that is essentially as engaging as watching paint dry.
Making episodes shorter for a "one-session play-through" is shit not one person asked for, yet they did it cause that's what pre-calculated focus test charts said people wanted.
The characters no longer discuss, they babble now. Endless noise exuding from their mouths with dialogue less interesting than a daytime soap, choices that literally jump out of the blue with little mounting tensions or build-up make people feel blasé and numb because we feel as though it's our fucking fault that we're no longer attached to the storyline being quickly shat out before our very eyes.
But besides everything, I'm not so much angry as much as I am just completely baffled at some of the choices Telltale have made. At least it's thus far given me some great laughs... just at the expense of any sentimentality toward the story.
You gotta imagine how she feels. The voice actors for Kenny and Jane were probably as pissed as she was and Mellisa knew that the flashbacks would be an f you to the fans.
I had some interesting ideas for this game too. It's bad when Big Rig and I could write a better story in half an hour than what we got in S2 and such. Some people on here are in denial and make excuses for TT. I genuinely think that some people on here are shellshocked because they will make an excuse for TT for any reason. I even told Blind Sniper when he said "Let's be nice to staff members" in my own words "TT needs to stop thinking of this like a game. That new PR person needs to copy and paste some of this stuff to TT. Their behavior lately reminds me of EA and Activision, it's sickening. They need to reward the fans with quality and care that we got in Season 1."
Telltale could very easily kill off Clementine and make her death productive to the story (e.g. in the defence of AJ).
This is why you people aren't writers.
Point? People also love Clem. By the end of the season most people were probably willing to die to save her, whether the game was gonna go in that direction or not. She was just as, or more, important.
All we're going to get for our annoyance is another season 2 episode 5 scenario where we'll have multiple choices that get ignored in favour of TTGs preferred ending.
Yeah, and the only way they make money is by keeping Clementine alive. It works both ways. Moral of the story: they won' kill Clementine because she's the main thing people care to see. Also Mely Hutch herself said Clementine is the Daryl of the game.
The reason they made a season 3 is because they want to make money. The writers are smart enough to know that controversy is a commodity. Th… moreis season, Javier is the main character, whether you like it or not. He's the guy we're playing as. Let's not kid ourselves here.
I also came up with the idea of Clementine dying to save AJ (which would mirror Lee's actions at the end of Season 1) making her death mean something. It's not hard to see happening when you start to consider it.
Since I like Clementine a lot, I don't really want to think about these scenarios, but I don't want to hide from them either.
If Telltale does kill off Clementine as a response to Melissa Hutchison's comment, then they've destroyed whatever chance they have had to redeem Season 3's lackluster reception.
If Telltale does kill off Clementine as a response to Melissa Hutchison's comment, then they've destroyed whatever chance they have had to redeem Season 3's lackluster reception.
Or maybe they will stop forcing the focus onto Javier and his insignificant family, give us more Clementine flashbacks that they are seemingly cutting content from, possibly make Clem a present day playable protagonist again, stop bullshitting literally everybody with Kevin Bruner's promises of past choices mattering and a huge dynamic story generator with starting points that turned out to be bullshit, learn to craft a narrative where we don't encounter a beloved character as a stranger thus leading to all sorts of awkward writing, and generally just stop treating us like suckers for the bottom line which is sales and money.
They HAVE to change things and fast if they are going to maintain a significant portion of their loyal fanbase. This simply isn't the same quality of a story and game as season 1 or even season 2; the passion is nearly completely gone and it is obvious yet they are still riding on the coattails of season 1's amazing team, most of whom are no longer at Telltale.. All dialogue leads to the exact same result, characters still remember things you say but it doesn't change anything, all of the nuance and decisions from past seasons were shoehorned into a sloppy >5 minute flashback. They split the premiere into two parts so they could have double the money and not have to write a whole extra episode. They included a major character from the comics just to boost sales. Everything sucks right now and fans have the right to be completely pissed off.
All we're going to get for our annoyance is another season 2 episode 5 scenario where we'll have multiple choices that get ignored in favour of TTGs preferred ending.
It's gonna matter when their money starts slipping through their fingers. As far as I know it already is according to the amount of sales they... don't have.
You don't think they'd make any money if they killed off Clementine? A new season comes out 2 years later and everybody's gotten over it. And Melissa isn't a goddess. She's a gamer like the rest of us who just happens to voice Clementine. I wouldn't exactly take her opinions as the rule like everybody else seems to be doing.
Yeah, and the only way they make money is by keeping Clementine alive. It works both ways. Moral of the story: they won' kill Clementine b… moreecause she's the main thing people care to see. Also Mely Hutch herself said Clementine is the Daryl of the game.
Or maybe they will stop forcing the focus onto Javier and his insignificant family, give us more Clementine flashbacks that they are seeming… morely cutting content from, possibly make Clem a present day playable protagonist again, stop bullshitting literally everybody with Kevin Bruner's promises of past choices mattering and a huge dynamic story generator with starting points that turned out to be bullshit, learn to craft a narrative where we don't encounter a beloved character as a stranger thus leading to all sorts of awkward writing, and generally just stop treating us like suckers for the bottom line which is sales and money.
They HAVE to change things and fast if they are going to maintain a significant portion of their loyal fanbase. This simply isn't the same quality of a story and game as season 1 or even season 2; the passion is nearly completely gone and it is obvious yet they are still riding on the coattails of season 1's amazing … [view original content]
Melissa: "Yeah I have recorded one scene thus far but we went into the studio and they said "this will probably get totally rewritten, but were gonna go ahead and record this anyways. I wish I could tell you what its about.... (the scene)."
This will probably get totally rewritten, but we're gonna go ahead and record this anyways.
Its just a bad attempt at attracting new fans while still trying to retain the old fans, which results in old fans leaving, and not very many new fans coming in, at least thats what I think. The story is just all over the place now, and the supposed "terrible sad death" of Mariana did not touch me in the least, considering she had like what? 10 lines in the whole game?, the most emotional moments so far has been when Clems hardened facade has cracked and you can tell the sadness in her, for example in episode 2 when she says "having other people is nice but.." and then proceeds to almost whimper "It always ends up hurting in the end", that shit broke my heart, I just hate being this stranger to Clem, I want to comfort her, I want to make her better, because I know what she has been through, but Javier dont, so he cant help her, at least not yet.
I feel like they have really stretched out the middle finger to their fans on this one (and this is coming from someone who has only been a fan as of December last year), and I can see why people are annoyed.
The Walking Dead is by its very nature a very niche game, as it is basically a glorified walking simulator (I know it isnt, especially not season 1, but just for the sake of argument), and you wont attract the mainstream audience just by making it action focused, you wont get all the Call of Duty players or the Battlefield players, because what they have made with A New Frontier, as opposed to how it was in season 1, is a glorified QTE/Cutscene. In season 1 most of the time was spent walking around, talking to people, learning how to progress and so on, getting to know the characters, A New Frontier has almost none of that, and is way too short to actually make me care about anything except the things I already know.
For how much of a deal they made AJ in the last game, they really dropped the ball by basically ignoring him this game and making it a generic war between humans or whatever. This game should really have been focused on Clem and AJ instead of Javier, who I think is a really bland character, with almost nothing redeeming about him, (Except his glorious beard, though nothing Kenny level) and dont even get me started on how much I dislike everyone in Javiers family except Mariana, David is actually the most interesting Character in this game except for Clem.
I really hope that Telltale realize their mistake with this one and makes something to rekindle their own fanbase after this, I feel like A New Frontier can be pretty good, but how the series goes from here, is probably entirely up to the potential next game, if they make something the fans will love, they might pull back, but I doubt that any new fans gained from A New Frontier will be able to patch the whole another mediocre game will leave in the existing fanbase
These developers need to realize diluting the story by it's marketing "demographic broadening" only serves to harm their own interests.
P… moreeople that like playing action games will just go and purchase an action game, and certainly don't want to watch action in a pre-rendered "gameplay" segment that is essentially as engaging as watching paint dry.
Making episodes shorter for a "one-session play-through" is shit not one person asked for, yet they did it cause that's what pre-calculated focus test charts said people wanted.
The characters no longer discuss, they babble now. Endless noise exuding from their mouths with dialogue less interesting than a daytime soap, choices that literally jump out of the blue with little mounting tensions or build-up make people feel blasé and numb because we feel as though it's our fucking fault that we're no longer attached to the storyline being quickly shat out before our very eyes.
But besides eve… [view original content]
I still cannot believe that he went on reddit and advertised 42-or-something "starting points", and when the first two "episodes" came out literally NOTHING changes with Clementine except which season 2 ending she had. And then he comes back and says, "The season isn't over yet, wait and see!", despite advertising starting points. Now we know that episode 3 and the whole storyline in general is constantly changing and up in the air. It pisses me off, it really does.
Yeah. I miss season 1 where you could have three different playthroughs based on character dialogue.
Remember when Clementine would shoot… more Lee or leave him based on what you taught her if you didn't select any option at the end?
Nope, instead we got Kevin telling us that no playthrough of season 2 is the same.
I still cannot believe that he went on reddit and advertised 42-or-something "starting points", and when the first two "episodes" came out l… moreiterally NOTHING changes with Clementine except which season 2 ending she had. And then he comes back and says, "The season isn't over yet, wait and see!", despite advertising starting points. Now we know that episode 3 and the whole storyline in general is constantly changing and up in the air. It pisses me off, it really does.
Remember when we waited 119 days for an episode? And then it came out great? And remember when we waited 2 weeks for an episode, and it turned out terrible? Wonder if that's somehow related...
That gif doesn't mean I think telltale will kill Clementine. I strongly think they won't kill her, I just saw the opportunity to make a funny gif so I took it.
If Telltale does kill off Clementine as a response to Melissa Hutchison's comment, then they've destroyed whatever chance they have had to redeem Season 3's lackluster reception.
You nailed my feelings when saying "Javier and his insignificant family", I dont really care about them, the game has not given me any reason to care except "Theyre family", most people care about Clem and her story, and Telltale doesnt seem to understand that, what I really wanted was to learn more about AJ, and have the story focused around Clem and AJ, but instead we get this Brother vs Brother plot, which I really dont care about, and Clems story is basically put away for that, the most interesting character except Clem in A New Frontier for me is David, (or Badger, but I dont read the comics, but from what I have seen I really like him, also he is voiced by Garrus Vakarian's VA)
Depending on what they do with a potential 4th season is probably gonna be the deciding factor as to whether most of the fanbase leaves or stays I would think
Or maybe they will stop forcing the focus onto Javier and his insignificant family, give us more Clementine flashbacks that they are seeming… morely cutting content from, possibly make Clem a present day playable protagonist again, stop bullshitting literally everybody with Kevin Bruner's promises of past choices mattering and a huge dynamic story generator with starting points that turned out to be bullshit, learn to craft a narrative where we don't encounter a beloved character as a stranger thus leading to all sorts of awkward writing, and generally just stop treating us like suckers for the bottom line which is sales and money.
They HAVE to change things and fast if they are going to maintain a significant portion of their loyal fanbase. This simply isn't the same quality of a story and game as season 1 or even season 2; the passion is nearly completely gone and it is obvious yet they are still riding on the coattails of season 1's amazing … [view original content]
The most emotional moments so far has been when Clems hardened facade has cracked and you can tell the sadness in her, for example in episode 2 when she says "having other people is nice but.." and then proceeds to almost whimper "It always ends up hurting in the end", that shit broke my heart, I just hate being this stranger to Clem, I want to comfort her, I want to make her better, because I know what she has been through, but Javier dont, so he cant help her, at least not yet.
You know, I was thinking that something felt off to me about this line and the circumstances behind it and I think you basically nailed what I've been looking for. Thank you.
Its just a bad attempt at attracting new fans while still trying to retain the old fans, which results in old fans leaving, and not very man… morey new fans coming in, at least thats what I think. The story is just all over the place now, and the supposed "terrible sad death" of Mariana did not touch me in the least, considering she had like what? 10 lines in the whole game?, the most emotional moments so far has been when Clems hardened facade has cracked and you can tell the sadness in her, for example in episode 2 when she says "having other people is nice but.." and then proceeds to almost whimper "It always ends up hurting in the end", that shit broke my heart, I just hate being this stranger to Clem, I want to comfort her, I want to make her better, because I know what she has been through, but Javier dont, so he cant help her, at least not yet.
I feel like they have really stretched out the middle finger to their fans on this one (and thi… [view original content]
I sure hope you don't have ambitions to be a writer if you think killing off the main focus of the story so far to protect someone under her care is making progress rather than rehashing past events. It's poetic dribble when we've had time to form a relationship with one person we cared and died for, then watch a supporting character so the same for someone we've seen a few times and is barely a character.
Telltale could very easily kill off Clementine and make her death productive to the story (e.g. in the defence of AJ).
This is why you people aren't writers.
You don't think they'd make any money if they killed off Clementine? A new season comes out 2 years later and everybody's gotten over it. An… mored Melissa isn't a goddess. She's a gamer like the rest of us who just happens to voice Clementine. I wouldn't exactly take her opinions as the rule like everybody else seems to be doing.
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The fact that she outright told us that they've barely started recordings and that the most likely release date is March-April is probably more news than we'll hear from TellTale until February at the earliest.
Massive props to her for not leaving us in agony. This could have been the wait for S2E2 'A House Divided' all over again.
Season 3 doesn't have season 1 writers. They wouldn't be able to kill of Clementine in a good fashion without pissing off everybody. Also not to mention S1 was about Clementine and rising her, not all about Lee.
So if they kill Clementine, it essentially makes season 1 and 2 completely pointless.
You're very welcome!
Preach it, Cleme-uh, Melissa.
Please, don't flatter me haha. You're welcome...er, again.
The reason they made a season 3 is because they want to make money. The writers are smart enough to know that controversy is a commodity. This season, Javier is the main character, whether you like it or not. He's the guy we're playing as. Let's not kid ourselves here.
While I also loved Lee as a character, he was still kind of a means to an end though, the game was still very much focused around protecting Clem, and killing Lee was the conclusion to that, turning Clem into the person she is today
You gotta imagine how she feels. The voice actors for Kenny and Jane were probably as pissed as she was and Mellisa knew that the flashbacks would be an f you to the fans.
It's almost like.... One thing effects...another?! Who woulda thought?!
She's not wrong to be upset, nor is anyone else. If TellTale wasn't already on thin ice they sure as hell are now.
Seriously, I miss waiting averagely 3 months for an episode. The forums were a nice place then.
"it essentially makes season 1 and 2 completely pointless"
Not if she died in the last season.
Point? People also love Clem. By the end of the season most people were probably willing to die to save her, whether the game was gonna go in that direction or not. She was just as, or more, important.
These developers need to realize diluting the story by it's marketing "demographic broadening" only serves to harm their own interests.
People that like playing action games will just go and purchase an action game, and certainly don't want to watch action in a pre-rendered "gameplay" segment that is essentially as engaging as watching paint dry.
Making episodes shorter for a "one-session play-through" is shit not one person asked for, yet they did it cause that's what pre-calculated focus test charts said people wanted.
The characters no longer discuss, they babble now. Endless noise exuding from their mouths with dialogue less interesting than a daytime soap, choices that literally jump out of the blue with little mounting tensions or build-up make people feel blasé and numb because we feel as though it's our fucking fault that we're no longer attached to the storyline being quickly shat out before our very eyes.
But besides everything, I'm not so much angry as much as I am just completely baffled at some of the choices Telltale have made. At least it's thus far given me some great laughs... just at the expense of any sentimentality toward the story.
Too bad this is TTG's story and it's their story to tell so if you don't like the direction it's going it doesn't matter to them.
Yup that is pretty much their attitude towards it as well, really cool of them to give a big f you to their loyal fans.
Couldn't imagine how they'd be feeling while recording those lines
I had some interesting ideas for this game too. It's bad when Big Rig and I could write a better story in half an hour than what we got in S2 and such. Some people on here are in denial and make excuses for TT. I genuinely think that some people on here are shellshocked because they will make an excuse for TT for any reason. I even told Blind Sniper when he said "Let's be nice to staff members" in my own words "TT needs to stop thinking of this like a game. That new PR person needs to copy and paste some of this stuff to TT. Their behavior lately reminds me of EA and Activision, it's sickening. They need to reward the fans with quality and care that we got in Season 1."
Telltale could very easily kill off Clementine and make her death productive to the story (e.g. in the defence of AJ).
This is why you people aren't writers.
All we're going to get for our annoyance is another season 2 episode 5 scenario where we'll have multiple choices that get ignored in favour of TTGs preferred ending.
Doubt this is the last season. I'm like 99% sure unless they completely ruin the remaining of the episodes.
Yeah, and the only way they make money is by keeping Clementine alive. It works both ways. Moral of the story: they won' kill Clementine because she's the main thing people care to see. Also Mely Hutch herself said Clementine is the Daryl of the game.
I doubt it too, honestly.
I also came up with the idea of Clementine dying to save AJ (which would mirror Lee's actions at the end of Season 1) making her death mean something. It's not hard to see happening when you start to consider it.
Since I like Clementine a lot, I don't really want to think about these scenarios, but I don't want to hide from them either.
If Telltale does kill off Clementine as a response to Melissa Hutchison's comment, then they've destroyed whatever chance they have had to redeem Season 3's lackluster reception.
Not just season 3, more like their entire reputation.
Or maybe they will stop forcing the focus onto Javier and his insignificant family, give us more Clementine flashbacks that they are seemingly cutting content from, possibly make Clem a present day playable protagonist again, stop bullshitting literally everybody with Kevin Bruner's promises of past choices mattering and a huge dynamic story generator with starting points that turned out to be bullshit, learn to craft a narrative where we don't encounter a beloved character as a stranger thus leading to all sorts of awkward writing, and generally just stop treating us like suckers for the bottom line which is sales and money.
They HAVE to change things and fast if they are going to maintain a significant portion of their loyal fanbase. This simply isn't the same quality of a story and game as season 1 or even season 2; the passion is nearly completely gone and it is obvious yet they are still riding on the coattails of season 1's amazing team, most of whom are no longer at Telltale.. All dialogue leads to the exact same result, characters still remember things you say but it doesn't change anything, all of the nuance and decisions from past seasons were shoehorned into a sloppy >5 minute flashback. They split the premiere into two parts so they could have double the money and not have to write a whole extra episode. They included a major character from the comics just to boost sales. Everything sucks right now and fans have the right to be completely pissed off.
It's gonna matter when their money starts slipping through their fingers. As far as I know it already is according to the amount of sales they... don't have.
You don't think they'd make any money if they killed off Clementine? A new season comes out 2 years later and everybody's gotten over it. And Melissa isn't a goddess. She's a gamer like the rest of us who just happens to voice Clementine. I wouldn't exactly take her opinions as the rule like everybody else seems to be doing.
Yeah. I miss season 1 where you could have three different playthroughs based on character dialogue.
Remember when Clementine would shoot Lee or leave him based on what you taught her if you didn't select any option at the end?
Nope, instead we got Kevin telling us that no playthrough of season 2 is the same.
Melissa: "Yeah I have recorded one scene thus far but we went into the studio and they said "this will probably get totally rewritten, but were gonna go ahead and record this anyways. I wish I could tell you what its about.... (the scene)."
This will probably get totally rewritten, but we're gonna go ahead and record this anyways.
You have got to be kidding me, Telltale.
Its just a bad attempt at attracting new fans while still trying to retain the old fans, which results in old fans leaving, and not very many new fans coming in, at least thats what I think. The story is just all over the place now, and the supposed "terrible sad death" of Mariana did not touch me in the least, considering she had like what? 10 lines in the whole game?, the most emotional moments so far has been when Clems hardened facade has cracked and you can tell the sadness in her, for example in episode 2 when she says "having other people is nice but.." and then proceeds to almost whimper "It always ends up hurting in the end", that shit broke my heart, I just hate being this stranger to Clem, I want to comfort her, I want to make her better, because I know what she has been through, but Javier dont, so he cant help her, at least not yet.
I feel like they have really stretched out the middle finger to their fans on this one (and this is coming from someone who has only been a fan as of December last year), and I can see why people are annoyed.
The Walking Dead is by its very nature a very niche game, as it is basically a glorified walking simulator (I know it isnt, especially not season 1, but just for the sake of argument), and you wont attract the mainstream audience just by making it action focused, you wont get all the Call of Duty players or the Battlefield players, because what they have made with A New Frontier, as opposed to how it was in season 1, is a glorified QTE/Cutscene. In season 1 most of the time was spent walking around, talking to people, learning how to progress and so on, getting to know the characters, A New Frontier has almost none of that, and is way too short to actually make me care about anything except the things I already know.
For how much of a deal they made AJ in the last game, they really dropped the ball by basically ignoring him this game and making it a generic war between humans or whatever. This game should really have been focused on Clem and AJ instead of Javier, who I think is a really bland character, with almost nothing redeeming about him, (Except his glorious beard, though nothing Kenny level) and dont even get me started on how much I dislike everyone in Javiers family except Mariana, David is actually the most interesting Character in this game except for Clem.
I really hope that Telltale realize their mistake with this one and makes something to rekindle their own fanbase after this, I feel like A New Frontier can be pretty good, but how the series goes from here, is probably entirely up to the potential next game, if they make something the fans will love, they might pull back, but I doubt that any new fans gained from A New Frontier will be able to patch the whole another mediocre game will leave in the existing fanbase
OK, that ended up way longer than I intended
I still cannot believe that he went on reddit and advertised 42-or-something "starting points", and when the first two "episodes" came out literally NOTHING changes with Clementine except which season 2 ending she had. And then he comes back and says, "The season isn't over yet, wait and see!", despite advertising starting points. Now we know that episode 3 and the whole storyline in general is constantly changing and up in the air. It pisses me off, it really does.
Yeah. It's just ridiculous.
Though it can happen the other way around. There was a really long wait for TWAU 2 and many regard it as the weakest episode
That gif doesn't mean I think telltale will kill Clementine. I strongly think they won't kill her, I just saw the opportunity to make a funny gif so I took it.
You nailed my feelings when saying "Javier and his insignificant family", I dont really care about them, the game has not given me any reason to care except "Theyre family", most people care about Clem and her story, and Telltale doesnt seem to understand that, what I really wanted was to learn more about AJ, and have the story focused around Clem and AJ, but instead we get this Brother vs Brother plot, which I really dont care about, and Clems story is basically put away for that, the most interesting character except Clem in A New Frontier for me is David, (or Badger, but I dont read the comics, but from what I have seen I really like him, also he is voiced by Garrus Vakarian's VA)
Depending on what they do with a potential 4th season is probably gonna be the deciding factor as to whether most of the fanbase leaves or stays I would think
You know, I was thinking that something felt off to me about this line and the circumstances behind it and I think you basically nailed what I've been looking for. Thank you.
Good post also.
I sure hope you don't have ambitions to be a writer if you think killing off the main focus of the story so far to protect someone under her care is making progress rather than rehashing past events. It's poetic dribble when we've had time to form a relationship with one person we cared and died for, then watch a supporting character so the same for someone we've seen a few times and is barely a character.
The last time a new season came out later, I only showed up for one person. But I'm sure I'm about the only person here for Clementine, right?